/vr/ - Retro Games

===NEWS===

[09-21] DoomRL Arsenal v1.0 released
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=37044

[09-20] Developer Opinion - Gun Feedback
https://youtu.be/tf-xxGkkWPs

[09-20] Anon's birthday cake >>2691441 >>2691447

[09-18] 50 Shades Of Graytall released (late news)
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?id=18205

[09-18] The /newstuff Chronicles #482
https://www.doomworld.com/php/topstory.php?id=4489

[09-16] Doomworld now available via https
https://www.doomworld.com/
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1420875

[09-14] Icar2015: a 11-map set for Icarus, by Eternal
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/wads-mods/74589-icar2015/

[09-13] Strange Aeons v3.5
>>2679170
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=49369

[09-12] Anon mod release: Mugshot / Ammo display HUD
>>2676321
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/48332341/dumbhud.pk3

[09-11] Reelism X3 released, right on schedule!
http://www.thekinsie.com/reelism/

[09-10] The /newstuff Chronicles #481
https://www.doomworld.com/php/topstory.php?id=4487

[09-08] Hocus Doom update
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=858445#p858445

[09-05] Anon mod release: arrow.wad
>>2663984
https://www.dropbox.com/s/pinkzcnlfe6wd6m/arrow.wad

[09-04] The /newstuff Chronicles #480
https://www.doomworld.com/php/topstory.php?id=4483

[09-03] Danimator: a GUI tool for creating DECORATE offset animations
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=49494

[09-02] Discord for /vr/ Steam group
>>2658514
https://discord.gg/0UcBfIOPKz8Tsx66

[09-02] Doomero is making a Doom 3 TC for GZDoom
https://youtu.be/S6UviHCc7mM

[08-31] Portals in Vanilla Doom via BSP hacking
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1415687

[08-31] Anon map release: Secret Nazi Moon Base v3a/b
>>2653316

[08-29] GZDoom-GPL - GPL'ed GZDoom for indies
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=49451

[08-27] The /newstuff Chronicles #479
https://www.doomworld.com/php/topstory.php?id=4478

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Is there a mod that has eitner a double jump or a jet pack?

I'm stuck on MAP06 (Bloody Steel).

>>2694762
Russian Overkill has jetpack things

Double jump, I think loads of stuff has double jumps, various parkour mods, Push, Demonsteele(?)...

post comfy looking maps

>>2694762
aow has a jet pack

>>2694780
Wads?

>>2694780
>>2694785

Looks like the Arcadia map.

>>2694778
i meant a jetpack mod that has no extra weapons. like an addon

>>2694780
comfy

>>2694786
Yup

>>2694774
what WAD?

How do you feel about keycards?
What's the best number to have?
Also which game had the best keycards?

>>2694816

At the risk of giving the obvious answer, the best number to have is the amount the map needs.

>>2694816
keycards are silly

biometric locks are where it's at

>>2694816
As many as you need. Keys >>> Switches. Keys have a definitive area where they go. Switches you need to figure it out, and stifle map design by requiring you to make that clear.

>>2694816
any number is fine but it is better when they are properly spaced apart; getting one then almost immediately getting another is unsatisfying. as a corollary, insufficiently large maps should not try to shoehorn in all three keys just for the sake of it.

>>2694813
Are you blind?

When ever scythe 2 gives you the SSG, you just KNOW shits about to get agitating

Any mega link for doomRL? Dropbox is being shitty as usual and has locked the file.

>>2694848
Oh and a link for the monster pack as well please.

>>2694848
Seconding this.

>>2694848
Some mirrors were just put up.

>>2694838
Agreed. Just finished it yesterday. My slaughterfest hunger is satisfied for now.
AAAAAAAAAAA

>>2694864

>>2694875
did you update gzdoom

>>2694878
Oh, right. Thanks.

>>2694837
Not him but at first I thought Bloody Steel was the name of that specific map

>Playing some of those Super Sergeant Shooter WADS
>Genuinely enjoying them
What the fuck is wrong with me.
Does anyone have anything else like it?
I heard there were some Quake ones too.

>>2694893
i love it

it's so cozy

>>2694893
I think that speaks more to Doom than to anything SSS did right, since they changed so little after all. I'd never played an OBLIGE map before but the output reminds me of Wolfenstein. Kind of want to make my own level generator... It wouldn't even be difficult to improve on the pacing and such, though making the architecture look good would be pretty hard.

>>2694893
Well fuck, I found a Quake one here.
Can't decide if it's based off of Quake 1 or 2's engine, but it's essentially Counter Strike models ported into bad Quake levels.
http://g55.co/42700/warflash-3/

Fuck this shit right here. I wonder how many maps are made impossible because of this.

anyone has compiled all the links to the SSS wads? I don't want to touch the last thread, too much shit in it

>>2694950
It's Quake 1's engine. Quake 2, as far as I know, wasn't ported to Flash.

>Hunting Shotgun
Sprite might be shit, but damn does this feel powerful.

>>2694969
I did look through the last thread and it's still impossible to figure out which links to download.

>>2694969
ctrl+f for sendspace

you'll find them all

>>2694952
???

>>2694945
>Kind of want to make my own level generator...
oblige is open source, I think, you'd be better off modifying it than starting from scratch.
(and what I'd really want to see is a level generator that uses some hueg resources wad to add some variety to the levels/themes)

>>2694982
>>2694952
I assume DRLA replaces some barrels with that, which I assume produces a nasty explosion, which obviously can break the intended progression of a level.

So I just got back into doomin and downloaded the newest version of gzdoom and it just doesn't work on my computer. It's a pretty old laptop so am I just fucked?

>>2695015

You can use ZDoom instead

>>2694952
>mfw actually was contemplating replaying icarus with DRLA just tonight
>somehow forgot about pic related the entire time, only to recall its existence right up until you mentioned it

holy shit was I in for a fucking treat, thank god I went with requiem instead

>>2695018
but it's got like no mod compatibility

>>2695024
what do you mean

there's just no lights and no 3d models

>>2695032
nvm im stupid

Cozy

such detail,

>>2695091
Make a whole 4-ep wad of them

And a sprite replacement pwad.

what are some good wad combos like
epic + nazis
scythe 2 + demonsteele

and so on so forth

>>2695103
Going Down goes pretty good with Project MSX

>>2695103
I had a lot of fun doing 2002 in Project MSX and Favillesco in Accessories to Murder (at least, I played episode 1... haven't done the second yet).

what a place to spawn

>>2695103
Going Down + DRLA
BTSX E1 + Accessories to Murder
BTSX E2 + Metroid Dreadnought
TVR! + Terrorists
INVADE2.wad + _sink's Aliens

hey, the strafe guys are streaming doom 2
cc3 multiplayer, a royal mess

>>2695140
post link

>>2695149
strafe1996.com/streamzone.html

what OBLIGE settings do yall use for DRLA?

>>2695189
The default ones but honestly i'm kind of a lameass, lmao

>>2695136

Have you managed to beat GD with DRLA? What classes and weapons did you use?

The megawad expects you to use rockets all the time and DRLA's RL is too slow to get the job done. Seems you need at least a Missile Launcher+TTTT to beat some of the harder levels.

>>2695189
big levels, lots of powerups, more secrets, good amount of monsters, med. difficulty

If you just paint over the black edges a little it improves drastically

Then if you paint in some lights it looks good also

>Playing DRLA
>Annoyed that I lose my shit after a Death Exit
>Load back and think over it for a while
>End up using a Phase Device to get out of the Death Exit in time.
Hell yeah.

>>2695195
I haven't played it all the way through since before the third episode was released, but I never had any problems with any class. Despite Yholl's intentions, DRLA still lacks the absolute cruelty roguelikes are known for and in just about any lengthy mapset you end up hilariously overpowered before long.

I mainly recommend GD with DRLA because of the theme of, well, going down. Each level being a single floor fits very well into the whole roguelike thing.

>>2694974
yeah, pretty much this. It' such an all-around awesome shotty, save for the sprites.

Most of the new guns are pretty cool also. Sure brings me back to when I'd just decide I wanted to fuck around with the mod out of boredom and just try and find basically fucking everything in it and flat-out say "what the fuck is this shit?" whenever I found a new gun. It's just that novelty feel all over again.

also, I don't know whether anyone else has tried it out yet or not, but the HP hunting revvie legitimately kicks ass. Managed to one-shot archviles and most skellies throughout maps 03-18 on requiem, and two shot a couple of mancubi from a distance many times as well.

>>2695230

>picked up a pp

teehee

epic...

>>2695295
The wads for 2 and 4 seem to have gotten lost in the aether... Have links for those?

>>2695317
https://www.sendspace.com/file/mjo9zz

>>2695319
Thanks Sergeant Anonbro

>>2695221
DRLA could really benefit from the dynamic progression thing in project brutality. the deeper you go into a megawad, the harder monsters have a higher chance of spawning. By map 28, you're at armageddon, but you're prepared for it.

>>2695386
the ability to swap around your weapons, armors, boots, modpacks, and read the info screens, all while the game is paused, would be a welcome addition.

>>2694848
haha as soon as i saw dropbox links i wondered if that would happen. it happened to reelism

>>2694952 >>2695013 >>2695023
i think there's a menu option to turn barrels off

>>2695078
oh, that's nice.

>>2695386
DRLA would benefit from a menu system instead of having to painstakingly construct weapons via application of multiple mods, and having to bind a different key to 'don armor', 'don boots', 'remove armor', 'remove boots', 'blow your nose', 'look at your notepad', 'open up armor information page', 'swap to the OTHER armor information page that actually just tells you all the fluff', etc.

I think it would also be good with the ability to hold more weapons, but these extra weapons are kept in an 'inactive' inventory space, where you have to remove your active weapons and wield the active ones.

>>2695295
What is this exactly?

>>2695415
epic2.wad with one of the super sergeant shooter or super zombie shooter wads as well

>>2695404
i couldn't agree more. i want to love DRLA, but the interface is just, so... tedious

having said that it's a roguelike thing to have a aggravating interface be considered "part of the game", look at NetHack for example. i wish it weren't, though. Crawl showed roguelikes can have extremely slick, usable interfaces.

>>2695415
For a more clear answer, someone made a clone of the Doom flash port with a modified shareware doom1 iwad that has modified oblige levels and counter-strike model rips. Someone ripped the wad and shared it.

>>2695230

The HP hunting revolver is a gamble. Sometimes it kills a hellknight in two shots, sometimes it does in four. The reload time is also really long which rules it out for slaughtermaps. Also I hate the sprite, it has thick outlines that make it look cartoony and stand out from the rest of the other weapons.

The Demon's side bite sprite is really strange to me.

>>2695443
I agree.

I also think that the Demon should run on its hands sometimes. Just like skip like hands>legs>hands>legs like someone on crutches.

spooky demon dick

How do you summon an automap in zdoom? I'm asking this because fucking hell maps are pretty devoid of those.

>>2695461
idbeholda

>>2695448
It's like a goblin shark, only it shoots its entire head forward, it's messed up and makes no sense. That's one impressive gullet, though.

>>2694791
where can I download these wads?

>>2695404
Yeah, I actually really want to have a menu system in DRLA. Easy access to the information you want, easier to maintain than 32000+ lines of SatanBARINFO. It'd give me way more flexibility in how I can present the player the information they want in an efficient way.

Also I just really fucking hate the stupid shit I have to do with it right now. I had to make an entire keybind just to swap hud pages, just uuuugggghhh wwhyyyy.

>>2695532

Is the firestorm modded MIRV supposed to have instantaneous reload time? The description only says that it's supposed to have those seeker rockets.

Did that Ultimate Doom 64 thing ever get released? I haven't been keeping up with shit lately.

>>2695562
Yeah, it has super speed firing, but drunk missiles. I'll fix the description.

>>2695598

Oh yeah, I also noticed that the description of the Plasma Rifle Mk. II says that it's affected by the Ammochain perk when it actually isn't.

Please help me out!

I am looking for footage of the Doom 3 space marine operating a button in an elevator with his arm in first-person mode. I remember this from the pre-Youtube days. I would really like to see it again but I can't find it.

>>2695448
I mean, if you nyan nyan nyan nyan then it wouldn't be so hard to nyan nyan nyan nyan nyan nyaaaaaaaaaan, or am I wrong? NYAN~ :3c

Man, kinda want to play Scout, but Renegade's instant weapon switch is so nice...

>>2695624
What?

>>2695624
Yeah mate I hate spoiler tag abuse too, spoiler tags have been rendered completely useless, they're never actual spoilers, you have to mouse over them to understand the post. I consider it a form of shitposting but the mods disagree of course and say it's just part of the culture.

>>2695675
My demon from another dimension.

DoomRLAv1.0 bug reports / feature requests:

The lack of information available on inventory armors/boots is annoying. Having to switch armor just to get the description of a new one is prohibitive.

Also I have noticed one of the new barrel types, the red one with the hazard sign, explodes and burns for a time, making a burning sound and doing area damage -- but there's no fire sprite visible. I can't think that's intentional.

Also I request

- removable armors with less than 50% damage, and all removable self-repairing armors, are not destroyed when taken off, and

- the ability to un-mod a weapon to swap mod packs around.

Both of which are desirable to facilitate experimentation with items, which is much of the fun of a roguelike. But when armor is constantly destroyed and modpacks lost on use, experimentation is severely inhibited.

I do appreciate being able to drop a weapon and not lose the modpacks on it, though.

>>2695679
>removable armors with less than 50% damage
on second thought this is probably too much, but you should be able to remove an undamaged or fully repaired armor without destroying it.

>>2695523
ctrl+f sendspace in this and the last thread

Got delays working, I'm surprised at how well this is coming along.

>>2695679
>- the ability to un-mod a weapon to swap mod packs around.
I don't think you've played the actual DoomRL. In Doom RL mod packs are permanent and often require thinking ahead (i.e. do I use this pack now, or wait for a better mod, or weapon to use it on?) in their use.

>>2695724
Thanks for the information. You're right, I have not played DoomRL. I avoid programs which don't have source. I'm waiting warmly for it to become available.

Anyway, philosophical issues aside, I would like to instead politely request an increase in the frequency of modpack generation. They are far too rare, except perhaps on slaughtermaps which have masses of items. But on such maps, you never get time to apply them.

Perhaps they could appear as deathdrops? Deathdrops are a roguelike thing. Well-- perhaps they already do, if you're playing with the DoomRLA monster pack, but I haven't tried that.

>>2695698
Looks cool. What would we be able to do with LUA that we can't with DECORATE and ACS? Just curious as I haven't dabbled in anything outside ZDoom editing.

>>2695772
Since it currently has LuaJIT's FFI module enabled, you can use C data types (such as uint8, double, etc) which is useful for optimization.

In addition to that, with some systems that I'll be putting in place, you'll be able to create and modify actor types on the fly.

If you run the engine in "insecure" mode then you can load dll files and gain filesystem access as well, which opens up even more possibilities (although it should be obvious why these features are locked away by default).

There's a bunch of other stuff I'm forgetting, but you get the idea.

>Reelism 3.1

Okay I'm liking the update and especially the stadium map, but why is it that sometimes the skeleton boss can one-shot me when I'm outrunning its missiles? Noticed it in boss rush. Otherwise that coin bomb is pretty fun.

Noticed a Bitman map that's unlisted, and saw that JRPGville got an update in size. Did any other existing maps get any improvements?

>>2695791

the city map may or may have not changed look-wise

>>2695791
There's a small new area in Gutrot Island, the gas station/convenience store/whatever near the docks.

>>2695679
>The lack of information available on inventory armors/boots is annoying.
Activating an armor in your inventory will allow you to see the stats on the second page. Adding a page to see the flavor text of non-worn armors would be not only a nightmare, but I don't have the space for it.

>but there's no fire sprite visible.
Already fixed for the next update.

>remove an undamaged or fully repaired armor without destroying it.
I could probably do that, if it's simple enough I could probably get it into the next patch.

>the ability to un-mod a weapon to swap mod packs around.
Technician can take off a random applied modpack from weapons, but the weapon is destroyed in the process. I could maybe add something that allows you to keep the weapon intact as long as only one mod was on it though, we'll see.

>I would like to instead politely request an increase in the frequency of modpack generation.
Really really not needed, Technicians can flood the world with modpacks in next to no time. Sorry.

Appreciate the feedback, I'll fiddle and see if I can get this stuff done soon for you.

>>2695675

You get upset about the most unimportant things.

>>2695976
>>remove an undamaged or fully repaired armor without destroying it.
>I could probably do that, if it's simple enough I could probably get it into the next patch.
please do.

>>2695976
y'know what i'd like if possible? a non-class class, with 0 perks or bonuses, like the doomed guy from hideous destructor

>>2695443
>>2695448
yeah.
I'm not completely sold on Doom 4 going with this design to be honest

>>2696103
I'd have to edit a metric shitton of stuff, but I could probably add a gameplay mode that makes the classes not have perk bonuses. Somethings I can't change, like Demolitionist's immunity to splash damage, but you could play the others without issue.

Like I said, this'd be a phenomenal amount of work, so it's super low priority, but I might try and make it at some point. Maybe. No promises.

>>2695103

Unloved + Shut up and bleed

>>2695976
>Activating an armor in your inventory will allow you to see the stats on the second page.
Doh, why didn't I think of that. So obvious. I wondered why that page was always empty. Thank you, that is fine.

>Really really not needed, Technicians can flood the world with modpacks in next to no time. Sorry.
Great if you're playing a Technician, or co-op with another Technician, but otherwise...
Just I've gone through the first 10 maps of TNT as a Scout and all my good weapons are exotic drops from crates and such, which seems odd - you'd think modpacks + standard weapons + self-built assemblies would be more prevalent. But perhaps the real DoomRL is the same way, I don't know.

>Appreciate the feedback, I'll fiddle and see if I can get this stuff done soon for you.
You are awesome, thank you so much, especially for considering the armor change I requested.

A WIZARD IS NEVER LATE, NOR IS HE EARLY
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https://discord.gg/0UcBfIOPKz8Tsx66

>>2696157
so uh (in the hopes that anyone here actually attended)

is it true that
Quakecon 2014 Doom footage > E3 2015 Doom footage?

I've seen some people who claim to have attended to the former state the game actually felt even more fastish or looked better aesthetic-wise

>>2696416
is the server up? cant seem to find it

>>2696450
The 2014 gameplay looked worse in the graphics department, but gameplay wise, yes, it was much faster.
Although, the movement seemed to be exactly the same, and I swear that they revved the player up to the 2014 demo speeds at certain parts in the Hell portion, and during the deathmatch demonstration.

>>2696458
it's not until friday

>>2696458
>Every Friday starting at 7:00 PM EDT

>>2696450
I thought it was exactly the same?

>>2696450
People also reported that the chainsaw was totally dynamic. Which is odd because we clearly was the animations repeat during the E3 demo.

>>2696492
>Implying that there wasn't tons of media sites who exaggerated the game and "attendees" who spewed shit out of their ass for attention
It happens literally every time guys

Anybody else think that the default gamma in ZDoom and Zandronum seems a bit brighter than it should be, especially in Software Renderer?

>>2696535
can't say i do, no

>>2696535
yep, i do. most source ports (software and opengl) are too bright for my liking. it's the first setting i change. Doom is meant to be dark!!!!

>>2696495
so everyone who wrote about it on their twitters were legitimately trying to ruse us? yeah, okay.

>>2696535
I think it's too dark. I like to be able to see what I'm playing.

>>2696535
If you think that's high, look at ZDaemon.

(Make sure your OGL light setting is set to "Doom", or "Dark if you can't set it to Doom"

>>2696535
I have seen worse, people that uploads Doom videos of youtube with a Gamma of 1.5

>>2696535

If anything, it's the other way around; GZDoom's OpenGL mode is darker compared to the original game. You must press the gamma correction button in PrBoom+ due to an arbitrary change made by the original Boom dev. that nobody bothered to switch back.

And uh, yeah, then we have ZDaemon.

I just got a wad idea.

Mechs. Everything is a huge-ass mech stomping around in urban areas, mechwarrior style.

The maps themselves are made in scale, so that you can fight around a city environment.

>>2696636
I have been hoping for someone to do this, some day it will come true

>>2696636
aow has that. they're shit tho.

>>2696635
>an arbitrary change made by the original Boom dev. that nobody bothered to switch back
wow, someone else knows the reason for the high gamma! you are cool.

Does anyone else enjoy looking at screenshots just about as much as playing?

>>2696686
screenshots can be very intriguing but i wouldn't go that far. i do enjoy watching demos, perhaps not as much as playing, but a lot.

>>2696564
yeah, i need a nightlight on when i play so i don't get scared

>>2696686
I wouldn't go that far. I do like them though.

However I feel somewhat like you in other games. I love watching QL duels, but I don't like playing Duel myself.

What happened to that website that lists all the current Doomseeker servers?

Basically a web version of Doomseeker.

>>2696697
I don't think doom is quite that scary, myself.

Have you tried Chex Quest? That might be better for you.

I just finished BloodCM.
It was pretty good.
Fuck rats, spiders and hands though.
Episode 4 when?

Total newbie to Doom multiplayer here.

I've never played DoomRPG+RLA in co-op, but I want to. Any ideas where should I start looking for players?

>>2696563
no, they just exaggerate

not all exaggeration is an attempt at rusing someone, it's just people being stupid

>>2696768
Since it's not compatible with Zandronum, you have to manually organize games. Try the #vr IRC channel, a few of us know how to work ZDoom netplay.

>>2696768
I was hoping to do that (and I would TOTALLY PLAY) but then I realized that it's likely that DoomRPG and RLA don't work on zandro.

Meaning we would have to use GZDoom netcode, which is absolute horseshit.
I don't think it would work until GLOOME has working netcode.

But say, I would totally willing to be part of that. Just a squad of four bros, taking missions and calling down armies and shit.

I would totally be the support, healing people and calling in for more ammo/weapons.

>>2696681

...what?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGpnvAanOHM

Dark Side (E2L8 from Duke Nukem 3D) remix

>>2696790
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGpnvAanOHM

Coolio

Am I the only fan of Valiant? It's a very cool Megawad with custom weapons and enemies and some detailed level design.

>>2696906
>Am I the only fan of Valiant?

What? No

Fuck no; it's arguably WOTY.

>>2696906
i like valiant but boy howdy is it a pain to try getting though some levels with no mid level saves

Could someone recommend me a cool gun mod that makes Demons of Problematique easier?

>>2696906
>>2696912 and >>2696915 pretty much sum my opinion

>>2696919
Project MSX?

>>2696754
No. Have you tried Sarcasm? It might be a bit above you.

Can anyone recommend any Boom-compatible wads with similar quality to Valiant or Sunlust?

I can barely make out hooves and part of a horn, but I guess it's safe to say this is a baron of hell

>>2696954
Vanguard
Hellbound
Whispers of Satan
Going Down

>>2696919
Trailblazer
Russian Overkill. But that will make any map easy

this fuckening game gets hard

Whats your favorite Heretic song lads

The Gatehouse for me, especially this remade version
https://youtu.be/QIFB_SbdbUs?t=323 (05:23)

>>2696991
>sergeant shooter 3
>AK sprite duplicates the left hand when firing

>>2697053
yeah boy that's the feel

shit boy shit

>>2696919
demonsteele

you shit-ass noob-ass dick-ass fuck-ass

>>2697061
wow rude

>>2697061

ass-ass

What you guys think about the Doom Retro source port?

>>2697110

It's a source port that's only notable by virtue of arbitrary differences, almost all of which can be easily done in an ACS/Decorate patch.
It's dumb and stupid and I don't like it.

haha doom

>>2697110
pretty much unneeded

>>2697110
i like it. it's clean, retro and has some nice features.

>>2697114
"easily done"? so, have you? surely you can't be as "dumb and stupid" as your post suggests anon...

>>2697137

You sure seem defensive about criticism to it.

>>2697086
ass

BURL TMD despite just being a a dum brutal doom parody, actually was pretty fun to deathmatch in.

>>2697137
>"easily done"? so, have you?
"what have YOU done" will not, nor will ever be a valid defense

>>2697150
on this forum, where all u asshats do is bitch about other people's efforts anonymously, yes it is

>>2697153

>>2697110
I forgot that shit existed. Have a review based entirely on its wiki page:
>doesn't keep demo capability (Come on man, even PrBoom could do that shit.)
>Doubles resolution for no reason rather than making it variable
>>This also is completely against the "unapologetically pixelated" motto
>Uses SDL, forces D3D/OGL.
>muh gory
>Dynamic Shadows? Liquid bobbing? Brightmaps? Oh man, that sounds totally retro!
>>>>>>>>Fuzzy spectre blood
>Level-specific fixes? Oh, god...
>Couldn't even bother to update screenshots to shoot in PNG
tl;dr could've been done entirely in ZDoom.

>>2697153
you know, i was wondering why someone seemed so insistent to know what /vr/'s opinions on doom retro was and was so fervently pushing it as their new favorite source port

>>2697110
It's the right direction for source ports. I like how it's Windows-only, to keep out the gubernands.

>>2697153
>you're genuine

>>2697110
It's weird and kind of bad, but PrBoom-plus is slowly rotting into irrelevance so Doom Retro will eventually become the default "purist" source port by default

>>2697189
Wouldnt chocolate be the 'purist' source port

>>2696991
It's amazing how much more interesting and tactical the game gets just from adding multiple types of enemies.

>>2697189
>but PrBoom-plus is slowly rotting into irrelevance

what
no

>>2697189
not sure about your police work there lou

>all these posts favoring Doom RETRO(tm)

Go to bed Brad.

>>2697168
>I like how it's Windows-only
No its not.
I can compile it on linux fine.
It just needs SDL2.

>>2697164
Fucking this.
The blob shadows is easily done in GLDEFS. Like so:

pointlight MonsterShadow
{
color 0.3 0.3 0.3
size [16 to 72, depending on monster size]
subtractive 1
dontlightself 1
}

object MonsterName
{
frame NAMEA {light MonsterShadow}
same for rest of frames
}

>>2697250
>>2697250
Theoretically, the bobbing water could be done in ACS, though I'm trying to think of a method beyond "iterate through every single sector, check to make sure it has a liquid floor flat, make sure it doesn't currently have any specials occurring on it, and then set floor_waggle."

>>2696736
it was called doomspy.com, and it's been down for some time.
please go and shout at AlexMax. although he seems to have been rather absent lately.

>>2696985
Tried all those. Vanguard of course is by the same author as Valiant. But are there any others with the same level of attention to detail?

very, very tangentially related to the thread but
do the evil dead movies still hold up?

>>2697321
well, they're still cool, yeah
and i'm pretty hyped for the new one

DoomRLA could use Unloading. I know it was a thing in DoomRL.

Is there a more OP assembly than the anti-materiel rifle? Shit's so easy to build yet so ridiculously powerful.

>>2697338
+1 for unloading.

Although at some point you're going to end up having to bind every key on the keyboard :)

Which is of course just like a real roguelike.

>>2697210
it's hardly maintained any more. e6y is more or less retired.

>>2697364
>it's hardly maintained any more.
you know what else isn't?
the actual doom game

guess it's irrelevant too now

>>2697189
>>2697364
PrBoom+ was last updated literally just now.

Also, Doom Retro is not a demo friendly port, so it has no chance of taking over PrBoom+ at all.

>>2697371
i see what you're saying, but your argument has holes the size of a double decker bus.

>you know what else isn't? the actual doom game
yes, hence the move to source ports.

>guess it's irrelevant too now
it would be if the source had never been released. the original games would likely still be played by small numbers of retro enthusiasts who care to maintain dos systems, or suffer emulation layers like dosbox, but the constant stream of new content we've enjoyed for 20+ years now would not have happened.

>>2697189
unholy trinity of sourceports goes pretty much like this
>purist
chocolate doom
>compatibility
PrBoom
>eyecandy
Zdoom branch of engines

you know where does doom retro fit? fucking nowhere. its not a sourceport for purists because of its features that >>2697164 mentioned. its not a compatibility engine for the same reasons, demo recording is a must. and its not eyecandy engine since it only has few neat effects slapped on top of regular doom

>>2697391
>PrBoom+ was last updated literally just now.
that is actually true, after writing the post i checked my mail and found some commit notifications in it. boy is my face red.

>Also, Doom Retro is not a demo friendly port, so it has no chance of taking over PrBoom+ at all.
in some ways Crispy Doom is actually doing better at vanilla demo compat these days than Pr+. and of course Chocolate Doom.

>>2697398
PrBoom+ isn't only for vanilla demos. -complevel 9 demos do exist.

>>2697404
you're right, it has few competitors for boom / mbf demo recording / playback. i can only think of Eternity.

>>2697397
I guess Doom Retro "fits" for people who like to use it. And it seems there are a few, just not here lol. Good luck to him. Each to their own I guess.

>>2697397
Doom source development is not a zero sum game. Beating all the others and having a monopoly on the user base is not needed. Oeleckers and Orbzut ("ZDoom and Eternity Engine are the same class of source port, thus we are in competition") would do well to remember this.

>>2697409
>I guess Doom Retro "fits" for people who like to use it.

Which is primarily the author himself. I've only seen a handful of users who seem to be mainly bug-testing for him instead of using it for any specific purpose. I mean, who the fuck would want to use Doom RETRO(tm) when there already exists ports that do what it's "supposed to do" except better?

It's like if someone was making their own modifications to an already existing sourceport, then decided to hardcode that shit, and act like he's doing it for some grandiose purpose instead of just making a sourceport for himself. Also, the whole DONATE HERE button leaves a bad taste in some mouths, and any questioning of the purpose of the donation button gets met with deletion/bans. The whole thing is fucking dumb and doesn't need to exist; however, there's users going, "oh man, good job. Keep up the good work. This is a thing that you are working on and I will be positive in my comment because negativity is met with negativity." It's all so dumb.

>>2697420
so, clearly some people are using it then. "specific purpose"? my guess would be their purpose is to fucking play doom. just because you don't like it, doesn't mean others don't.

by the looks of the wiki and git, a lot of effort and details have been put in. looks like you can't see an inch past ur face if you think its just doom + mods slapped on top. the guy has made a sourceport for himself, made it available to others, and there's fuckwits like you shitposting about it coz its not to your taste?? jeez

oh, there's a donate button? oh no! bad taste in your mouth? take the dick out then! i'm guessing you haven't donated! i'd say using the donate button is entirely voluntary. you try out the port, if you like it, and want to donate, then donate. otherwise, go back to playing hdoom one-handed.
did you question the dude about the purpose of the donation button? were you being a dick about it? hmm...
"This is a thing that you are working on and I will be positive in my comment because negativity is met with negativity." oh my fucking god. yeah, that's how people work, dude. good one.

>>2697420
scroton, is that you? ;)

>>2697438
>>2697441

God damn you are angry because people don't like a source port.
You're the only one shitposting, bruh.

>>2697438
>and there's fuckwits like you shitposting about it coz its not to your taste?? jeez
oh no people are explaining why they don't like a source port
does it hurt your feelings that people don't like it?

Doom Retro strikes me as just some dude having fun with the codebase making his own little tweaks and customizations. Nothing that'll really gain prominence among the community, but certainly not work all the vagina sand.

I at least like the Duke 3D-style sprite shadows and randomly-mirrored death states. Those are nice and you can't really do them in ZDoom without gross hacks.

>>2697457
>but certainly not work all the vagina sand.

The only sand being thrown is by the person who can't stand their source port being affronted.

>>2697461
...by anons whose opinions aren't worth shit. Including mine.

>>2697454
oh no people are arguing with people explaining why they don't like something
does it make you feel better that you joined in?
(notice a pattern?)

>>2697463

Yes, which makes the rage even more hilarious.
If someone is that angry about a handful of anons on an internet message board in a topic that barely last more than a week having NEGATIVE OPINIONS about a source port, to the point where he starts flipping his proverbial shit and trying to lash out at everyone that dares to say otherwise...

Then, quite simply, lol.
Doom Retro a shit. Deal with it.

>>2697457

Randomly-mirrored death states can be extremely easily done in ZDoom.

>>2697470
>does it make you feel better that you joined in?
yes, actually, i can use with a laugh.

>>2697471
>Randomly-mirrored death states can be extremely easily done in ZDoom.

I mean, it's easy enough to just flip the sprites and do an A_Jump to an alternate state, but that's a little... I dunno... inefficient, if you get what I mean.

I suppose you could set x scaling on the decorate actor to a negative value, but I think that causes issues with older ZDooms? It's listed as a developer version only trick on the wiki, anyway...

>>2697457
>Doom Retro strikes me as just some dude having fun with the codebase making his own little tweaks and customizations
if that's all it was there'd be no problem. hell, it's what i'm doing too.

but he's aggressively marketing it as the next generation of doom, the way it's meant to be and all that crap.

at least, he was when it first came out. probably trying to grab a slice of that indie gaming pie.

>>2697438
>oh my fucking god. yeah, that's how people work, dude. good one.

Nah, speaking as a creator, I'm vastly more interested in negative criticism than positive criticism. That's why I love this place. People tell me what I make is shit, they tell me why it's shit, I fix it, and it's a better product because of it.
What kind of creator can plug his ears to any negative feedback? How can someone like that be so content in what they've got? Where's the drive to improve, the search for what's wrong, the meticulous digging to find people pointing out problems?

>>2697479
I doubt he would have got many (any?) donations anyway.
He doesn't appear to be pushing it aggressively anywhere, unless I'm missing something. The Twitter account is just his Github commits autotweeting, and anything and everything Doom related, which I like to check out from time to time.

>>2697483
you should have a look at the minecraft modding scene
just make sure to cushion your walls, you'll hit your head so far against them...

>>2697486
>He doesn't appear to be pushing it aggressively anywhere, unless I'm missing something.

as i said,
>at least, he was when it first came out

it seems he's realised since that he's not going to be the next Notch or Fish and dialed it down a lot

>>2697483
He's not accepting negative feedback? Seems he's quite active in Doomworld and on that Github thing, always responding to questions. Personally, my shit isn't worth seeing the light of day (based on my own feedback, go figure!), but there is a difference between negative and constructive feedback. If someone goes "derp, I don't like it, coz ZDOOOMMM!" I'd probably arc up too.

>>2697493
>If someone goes "derp, I don't like it, coz ZDOOOMMM!" I'd probably arc up too.
"what is the point of using this when it can easily be done with something else" is a perfectly legitimate question and is something any fan and creator should be able to answer. this is what we in the business call a "selling point", or "elevator pitch". you need to be able to interest people in your product over your competition.
it's the exact same thing gplgzdoom faced on its first day, people comparing it to gloome, until it set out a very firm distinction between the two

>>2697492
Yeah,
I've emailed him directly on a couple of occasions with a couple of bugs/ideas, and he's been an entirely nice guy about it. Even when I was being a bit condescending at one point.

But then, this is 4chan, after all... you don't want to hear that. Let's call him the next Sgt Mark IV! Um, Sgt Mark V!

>>2697493
>He's not accepting negative feedback?

I wouldn't know, I don't talk to him nor do I care to.
I was responding to a statement I didn't agree with, not speaking on him as a person.

>>2697496
Again, it is absolutely not a competition. See >>2697417

>>2697496
>in the business
it's not a business. it's not a money-based economy. doom - and indeed all free/libre/open source software development - is a gift economy. your thinking makes no sense in it.

>>2697496
Good point. I myself like it because of its "feel". It has a bunch of features that just feel right to me. It sits somewhere between the standard Chocolate Doom and the more advanced ports starting with PrBoom+. No fussing over pages of options, creating shortcuts, installing mods. I can just open the thing, find the wad, and go. Simples.

>>2697509
i never said it was a competition. no, it's not a competition. to try and turn this into a competition is silly.
but whether you're competing or not, or whether anyone else is competing or not, there are still comparisons to be made and bulletpoints to match in favor of one or the other, especially when determining what to suggest to people or what you want to try for yourself.

>>2697515
this is so completely irrelevant a point that i'm amazed you even bothered to bring it up.

>>2697517
>PrBoom+
>fussing over pages of options
that is an entirely reasonable complaint. much of that stuff needs relegating to cfgfile-only tweaks for power users. the menus are way too complicated.

>>2697519
>i never said it was a competition. no, it's not a competition.

>>2697496
>you need to be able to interest people in your product over your competition.

so which is it?

Whoever is so buttblasted because I mentioned a few reasons people don't like Doom RETRO(tm) should probably stop posting if they can't handle opinions over things; especially when they're not even the opinions of the author.

I'm not the one who told people to type Doom RETRO(tm) with RETRO in full caps so as to maintain some weird sourceport brand integrity that way everyone knows it's the Doom RETRO(tm) official RETRO(tm) of Brad what's-his-face.

Seriously, y'all more assblasted than the anons you claim to be assblasted when they're just stating their opinions from their point of view.

>>2697438
I really hope you're trying to be ironic or you might have a problems engaging in conversation with strangers about sensitive issues; which for you appears to be an fucking Doom sourceport, so god forbid you talk to someone about politics or religion.

>>2697524
both? what's the confusion?
are you having trouble understanding how you can be in competition with something without being in a competition?

because one is a contest, and the other is an alternative product

>>2697520
I wouldn't call it a "complaint". I do like PrBoom+, ZDoom, etc., and all the options they offer. Sometimes I like to fiddle with things and experiment until they're to my liking. But my guess is that not everyone is into that. They want to play Doom without fucking around. And if Doom Retro caters for that, and brings more people to Doom, then I'll support it.

>>2697478
>that's a little... I dunno... inefficient
It's like you've never worked in DECORATE. That's pretty much how every cool feature is implemented.

>>2697525
Come on! Doom is a much more sensitive issue than politics or religion! :P

>>2697528
>Sometimes I like to fiddle with things and experiment until they're to my liking. But my guess is that not everyone is into that.
>They want to play Doom without fucking around.
>And if Doom Retro caters for that, and brings more people to Doom, then I'll support it.

It doesn't. Instead of having a simple "options" screen, he opted instead to have the user change the config file to make adjustments to shit as simple as keybinds. When it comes to playing Doom without fucking around, there's far better sourceports with less options that still allow you to change shit without having to close/open the game over and over again.

If someone's "getting into Doom," then the last sourceport I would ever recommend would be RETRO DUMP.

>>2697534
>there's far better sourceports with less options that still allow you to change shit without having to close/open the game over and over again.
even chocdoom does this with its separate config that you can launch game from

doom retro has no place in community apart from being a student project or some shit.

>>2697534
This.

What's the point of keeping the old settings menu that does 90% of nothing that Doom can be configured for instead of implementing those things? And don't you dare say "to keep the style!!!" because, not only should functionality never be sacrificed for style, but Doom RETRO™'s tone is so grossly inconsistent that you can have an OpenGL rendered game that displays fast, real-time shadows and has flat decaling (a feature actually worth mentioning) that still asks you whether you want to play in "high or low resolution" and displays in 640x400.

>>2697532
Sayre's Law: the more trivial an argument is, the more intense it is.

Anyone playing Doom on Linux? I ran into some problems with Project Brutality and Gzdoom. I can't play doom2 at all. If I load doom1 wad I can play without a problem.

>>2697596

>playing doom on Linux
>playing anything on Linux
>actually using Linux at all

>>2697596
hit your box with a stick.

>>2697615
Oh, hush you.

>>2697596
Gonna need a bit more information. What "problems" do you run into? Any error messages? You're using just GZDoom, right?

>>2697596
I remember being told about Reelism X2 issues with modern GZDoom on Linux. I THINK it might be something to do with the different compiler behavior, but I honestly couldn't say. Might help to send crash logs etc. to the devs on the ZDoom or GZDoom Bug Reports forum.

>>2697596
How do people expect to be taken seriously when they use an OS that simply isn't built for games?

>>2697753
you mean windows which was built to run spreadsheets?

>>2697757
you just had to respond didn't you? idiot.

A-a-a-are the mods back?

>>2697764
i deleted my own post, realised it was a bad idea. sorry.

Hexen dude is back. Or well, I'm back, I should say.

Been working on containers, ignore the crappy placeholder graphics (the chest being a pedestal and the RPG Maker icons)

>>2697786
cool

>>2697189

>but PrBoom-plus is slowly rotting into irrelevance
>rotting into irrelevance
>in this current year 2015 which saw the first Doom WAD in years that required a newer build of PrBoom+


This is undoubtedly the stupidest post I've ever read so far in this year, and I've seen SOME shit.

>>2697596
>I ran into some problems with Project Brutality and Gzdoom.

Can you be more specific?

Heretic is good but the OST suck. What soundtrack should I play instead?

>>2697837
at the exception of like a track or two, the megaman soundfont worked pretty well on that one

In DoomRLA, when my Medical PowerArmor breaks or I take it off, any armor I put on afterwards doesn't have an armor number in the normal hud, and a super high number in the Alternative hud.

>>2697853
>megaman ost for Heretic
ehhhh

How would I go about making DoomRLA monsters and smart scavenger compatible? The map placed stuff is working fine(at least the medikits are) but the ammo boxes dropped by the enemies don't split apart, and give an obscene amount of ammo.

>>2697880
megaman SOUNDFONT for the heretic OST

Is Deus Vult any fun with Trailblazer?

>>2698108
Deus Vult is pretty good, Trailblazer is meh.

>>2698108
Why don't you tell us, since it looks like you're playing it?

>>2698108
whoa, from that room alone I get the feel that level design could be neato
I might give this a try

Sorry for begging, but a Lazy Fucker's download for Marathon would be nice. When I try playing it, it feels so distant... the camera doesn't feel right, and it's like it's from an alternate universe. Maybe cause it made for Mac, but I'm probably just talking out of my ass here.

I pity the fools who used majhost for image hosting

>>2698137
oh nvm I just looked so episode oneish
but its just mosterspam

How do I open compiled ACS files in Slade?

>>2698152
>compiled
>open

>>2698152
You don't.
Unless there is a decompiler/dissassembler for ACS bytecode (I think someone on the Doomworld forums was working on one at some point), you can't "open" it. Some modders are nice enough to leave the source files in, often in a folder inside the pk3 called "scripts" or "source", or even in the acs folder itself.

You could try to open up the compiled acs in a hex editor, and there might be some strings to give you an idea as to what it does, or look for "puke" options in KEYCONF to see the number for the action you're looking for.

>>2698146
play it on -skill 2, it's not very hard then. and it does look super cool.

>>2698152

You can't, unfortunately.

>>2698206
well it is only 4 levels so

>>2698227
no, no it's one level, play the cojoined version, it's better that way unless you're demoing or something

>>2698231
aight

>get my shit slapped thoroughly by revenants on any level for 100 damage minimum because critical hits
>fuckers sneak up behind me and one-punch me for +300 damage
>anything as lesser and insigificant as a pistol zombieman can fuck up my shit considerably bad for a minimum of 80 damage as well
>fucking FATAL HITS are a thin and they're fucking :everywhere:

boy it sure is nice to play some Team Fortress 2 after a day worth of Team Fortress 2

>>2698246
>pic
Excellent punctuation.

>>2698250
ty bby

So I got some more work done - it now recognises if a slot is empty so it won't draw an icon or number. This is some of the most progress I've achieved in months. I'm feeling slightly proud of myself ha ha

>>2698267

Rad. Can't wait to see more.

>>2698267
>I'm feeling slightly proud of myself ha ha
you should, mate, it's the best motivation

>>2697438
>Freaking the fuck out because other people respectfully posted an opinion that doesnt agree with you

It appalls me that people this immature actually exist.

>hurr umad

No you stupid faggot, your the only one getting mad. Spewing out UMADUMADUMAD isn't an instant win in an argument.

>tries to resurrect a dead argument
>new unique IP
>hours after said argument had passed

nothing suspicious here no siree

>>2698354

you're also fueling that argument further by making a reference to it in your post, are you aware of that?

>>2698347
kek

>>2698354
Nigga I just entered the thread.

Is there a wad out there that lets you ride demon cock?

>>2698370
i think they have that in skyrim

>>2695443
This is awesome. I mean people creating something that is purposely way too metal to even be serious. Thats why Doom is Doom. The new one just is too polished and, well, tripple A.

>>2694774

Now playing with hideous destructor

Extremely hard but fun to think of a plan of action.

>>2698437
W-what post were you trying to link?

So this is a thing.

http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=47680

One thing he did right was fixed the viewheight problem while not retaining the whole needing to crouch for certain doors thing.

It always bothered me that your viewpoint in the original was from batman's dick instead of his head and all the crooks looked so much taller because of it.

>>2698469

Noice.

The new DoomRL version is great and all, but what happened to the performance? Is this a ZDoom SVN issue?

It runs at about 20-30 FPS now when I was pulling 60 before. I am running a toaster, but it's not exactly visually taxing.

I think it should be safe to assume that Doom has grown a lot in the eyes of the mainstream audience, but it's not big enough for people to get a cacodemon tattooed on their backs just like some of them do with TLOZ's Triforce.

What are some wads that give a good sense of adventure? I want to feel like I'm going somewhere and accomplishing something, not just running through an endless series of digital mazes.

>>2698637
dts-t(dimension time space traveler)

http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/m-o/ma_put

NICE

NICE

NICE

>>2698637

Some early ZDoom maps might be good, then, when people were trying to cram story into everything and give a sense of "progression".

Assault on Tei Tenga shows its age soooooooooo much and breaks if you even so much as sneeze at it but is one of my favorite maps.

>>2698637
hellbound but the gameplay feels a bit damaged because of it

>>2698637
Phocas Island 2
Icarus
All Hell is Breaking Loose
Doom Raider
Unloved
Happy Time Circus II
Dawn of Reality
Void
RTC-3057
Action Doom

>>2698637
Going Down is pretty good for this too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBLTksBvLHc

Ominous [Slime] Dwellers - Slime Dweller remix (with gameplay)

>>2698637
5till L1 Complex is pretty good.
And seconding >>2698715

>>2698637
pirate doom is amazing

youtu.be/xDB3LyTynns

Unreal Tournament 4 CTF showmatch VOD.

Last hour or so are particularly baller.

>>2697526
The confusion is that you are eating your own words, you super moron.

>>2698741
hush

>watch Fatal1ty stream
He's still rather good at vidya but goddamn is he one boring fuck. No charisma whatsoever.

any wads that has large open arenas with no small corridors

>>2698769
nuts.wad

>>2698769
oblige can make those

http://oblige.sourceforge.net/i_download.html

>>2698796
interesting

>>2697894
how does that work?

>>2698747
stop eating like a noob,
get gamers food.

>>2698849
Yep.
Apparently it worked, dude seems rather successful. Though I guess it's more because of the tech side, not the food, kek

>>2698747
have you seen his video about practising practising practising practising if you're not practising you should be practising

i actually found that quite inspiring, he's totally right

>>2698845
step 1: open the FAQ/pastebin
step 2: follow the link to the soundfont q&a pastebin
step 3: ???
step 4: PROFIT!

just in case

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MP9evk0f7Qg

are there any music-themed wads?

I'm trying out Brutal Doom and there's some neat touches like corpses leaning on walls, but HOLY SHIT WHY can't you disable the disturbing "prolonged deaths" where the monsters scream for mercy, or stare you in the face as they twitch with part of their brain missing (I'm so fucking sorry Cacodemon), and then twitch MORE after you'd already tried to end their misery? It's fucking messed up and even the zombies scream and yell and cry that they're dying when they're FUCKING ZOMBIES.

>>2698873
i'm afraid, in all likeliness, none of us here know. you could ask the author, but i don't know where you could reach him; he used to post here but no longer does.

>>2698873
>I'm so fucking sorry
I feel like that's not the game for you

Consider switching to Accessories to Murder, so the cacodemons comically deflate instead of having a seizure

>>2698875
haha i'd forgotten about that

>>2698874
there's always facebook

This is so stupidly hilarious

>>2698873
I thought going into Options>Brutal Doom Options>Vanilla Monsters On would disable the prolonged deaths. No?

If you're mostly in it for the enhanced graphical effects, check out Smooth Doom. Need the fancy blood? Combine it with Nash Gore or Droplets.

Smooth Doom even has a rifle you can enable in Options>Smooth Doom Options if you want to, even has Doom64-Style skins you can enable. All the graphical tweaks can be toggled on/off if you only want certain ones.

>>2698894
indeed, he did a great job lampooning his subject.

>>2698659
yep, still one of the most highly-rated wads for visuals.

>>2698875
I can't tell if this is meant to be a joke wad, the former humans sound like the tasmanian devil from Looney Tunes and the Hell Knight neigh like horses, while Arachnotrons are zombiemen in little tanks.

So turning in Doom is really "yaw", and looking up/down is really "pitch", do I have this right? If so, do 3D sourceports like GZDoom have a way for the player to "roll"?

>>2698917
>So turning in Doom is really "yaw", and looking up/down is really "pitch", do I have this right?
you do.
If so, do 3D sourceports like GZDoom have a way for the player to "roll"?
i have no idea, but, probably.

>>2698917
>So turning in Doom is really "yaw", and looking up/down is really "pitch", do I have this right?
you do.
>If so, do 3D sourceports like GZDoom have a way for the player to "roll"?
i have no idea, but, probably.

>>2698917
GZDoom has SetActorRoll (ACS).

>>2698637
Back To Saturn X

>>2698921
Sorry, my brain farted there. There's also A_SetRoll (DECORATE), as well as the "Roll" variable (DECORATE) and GetActorRoll (ACS)

>>2698897
>I thought going into Options>Brutal Doom Options>Vanilla Monsters On would disable the prolonged deaths. No?
Sadly using the vanilla monsters option means it would disable the new monster behaviour, so I can't really do that..

>If you're mostly in it for the enhanced graphical effects, check out Smooth Doom. Need the fancy blood? Combine it with Nash Gore or Droplets.
I was really "in it" to see what it did differently and what it does that is enjoyable/interesting (and what isn't), even if it's a controversial mod and people hate SgtMarkIV it's good to examine this sort of stuff.

>>2698927
"try things and form your own opinion." i like your attitude.

>>2698921
>>2698926
Awesome, I'll check it out. Thanks.
Looks like the fixed point angles will allow for 360 degree rotation.

>>2698927
>I was really "in it" to see what it did differently and what it does that is enjoyable/interesting (and what isn't), even if it's a controversial mod and people hate SgtMarkIV it's good to examine this sort of stuff.
You're alright.

Not exactly on topic, but
don't suppose any of you are interested in deciding what message I should leave in the credits for a particular game that I helped fund? 18 character limit.

>>2698932
hitler was right

>>2698932
fund doom retro®

>>2698980
As tempting as that sounds, I'll have to say no.

>>2698982
>18 character limit, inappropriate entries may be edited at the discretion of the team, and limited to A-Z, a-z, 0-9 and ! @ # $ % ^ & * ( ) - _ = + ' [ ] { } ; : < > / ?
Looks like that one is a no-go.

>>2698932
Agitating Skeletons
Remember: Report And Ignore
Update Your GZDoom
Any Word On The Berserk Mod?

>>2698993
doom retro sux(r)

>>2698998
>Agitating Skeletons
That ones a go.
Lastly, since I didn't do any of that stuff at the time, what clan? This'll obviously give away the game if the previous image didn't, but whatever.
Bullwhip
Broadsword
Cat O Nine Tails
Rapier
Iron Flail
Katana

>>2698932
Rip and Tear
Meatball daemon

>>2699005
Katana, obviously. This is 4chan, the chinese cartoons website.

>>2699010
I was kinda expecting iron flail to be honest in honor of Parias, since a mace isn't there, but sure.
Guess the katana will be chosen for Demonsteele.

>>2699021
And it's done. Thank you anons.
Here's hoping Bloodstained doesn't turn out to be a horrible piece of shit.

>>2699021
I actually have not the slightest idea what this is about. So I picked katana for the reason given. Nothing to do with anything else.

>>2699046
Well, what the hell, guess I'll tell you.
It's for that Castlevania-like game, Bloodstained, that's being made by some ex-Konami staff, and headed by Igarashi..
Just chose to ask you guys for your input, since I like it here.

>>2699010
>>2699046

Let's be honest, this is a good reason, DemonSteele or no.
It's even more relevant especially now that we're owned by glorious nipponland.

i think this is a good game wwww

>>2699056
For some reason, I completely forgot about that.
Glad I picked what I did, then.

>>2699057

>>2699057

Fuck off, sparky.

>>2699063
>>2699061

no! i genuinely think it is a good game!
it has flaw and it not a god teir game but it is interesting and fun and creative

>>2699067
Too bad it was a complete failure and tainted Romero's career.

I'm trying to get into DoomRLA but DoomRL_Arsenal_1.0 won't launch. I get the error
Script error, "DoomRL_Arsenal_1.0.wad:DECORATE" line 305:
"NOTONAUTOMAP" is an unknown flag

and then

Script error, "DoomRL_Arsenal_1.0.wad:DECORATE" line 2698:
Invalid state parameter a_damageself

I'm on the most current ZDoom and I'm not loading any other WADs with it. What am I doing wrong?

>>2699060
that's one hell of a navel. if i were her i'd probably steer away from midriff tops...

>>2699073
>I'm on the most current ZDoom
Lies.

>>2699073
2.7.1 is NOT the latest ZDoom!
http://devbuilds.drdteam.org/zdoom/

>>2699078
I stand corrected. Works now. Cheers m80s

>>2698871
All BtSX maps are named after Guided By Voices songs and the intermission texts are spliced from their lyrics, but that's about it. There is no Xanadu in Doom yet.

Is there anything else like Quake 3 but with people who actually still play it?

I love the speed, variety of weapons, basic no bullshit gameplay, maps, etc but there's never anyone online - just bots. Tried UT (and 2004 which apparently has a bigger community) but much slower gameplay wise and similar problem.

Quake Live is a joke so please don't even suggest that.

>>2699146
Warsaw

>>2699148
Shit that actually looks pretty decent, I don't even mind the fruity graphics if the gameplay's the same. I'll check it out.

>>2699151
Cube2: Sauerbraten

>>2699152
That looks alright, kind of like modern Goldeneye from the shots. Also found Xonotic and Open Arena through these games. What's the online like on these?

>>2699154
this basically

>>2699067
>it is interesting and fun and creative
It's also not retro.

Unless you're talking about the N64 version, in which case fuck you and your lineage.

>>2699146

Check red eclipse too, I dig the aesthetic and the weapons of that game, though it's been a few years since I last played it.

>>2699146
if you like cpm, try reflex.

http://www.reflexfps.net

ok guys
No Rest For The Living on PRBoom, how do I do it?
is there a way to make it so it has correct music placement and ending screen?

>>2699259
while not completely ideal; you could use PRBoomPlus with the -nerve command parameter
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=188631388

>bossifyer is never going to be fully finished
>ever

It goes so well with things like GMOTA, Demonsteele, and DoomRL. It's a shame to see it fall to the wayside and forgotten about. That one boss still causes crashing errors upon spawn too.

>>2699264
appreciate the response but doesn't that require the use of BFG Editions Doom 2?

>>2699272
Not necessarily, you just need the NERVE.WAD from BFG Edition. It should work fine with the old DOOM2.WAD.

>>2699292
ah, I see thanks

How come I cant play old fps without getting nauseous?
Is there a way to fix or avoid it?
It would be cool to try out some of these classics

>>2699317
Any specific game? There's different possible solutions for different games.

>>2699319
DOOM and Marathon games are ones I always want to play but after 5 minutes I just cant

damn I solved it, or more like, edward solved it:

http://forum.drdteam.org/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=6698&p=57351

I CAN FINALLY RIP AND TEAR ALL I WANT! FUCK OPENAL!

>>2699328
Doom: Try using GZDoom with a widescreen resolution?

Marathon: Set up Aleph One, then follow these instructions to fix the barf-inducing FOV:
http://pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Marathon#Field_of_view_.28FOV.29

>>2699317
>>2699328

open the console and type
movebob 0

>>2699364
>>2699349
I'll try both of these when I get back from work. thanks!

>>2699154
Technically none of these are retro but fuck it here you go nigger

Xonotic is a community continuation of Nexuiz, a free game based off Quake 1 where the creator sold the rights (or at least the names and shit) to a studio named Illfonic who made a shitty CryEngine game that was more like Mario Party: Arena FPS Edition than anything. It's kind of fucking weird on why Illfonic even wanted the name/rights, but their game was dead on arrival anyway and you can't buy the game anymore because Ubisoft.

But yeah Xonotic itself is pretty good though I need to give it another try before giving opinions. Play it anyway.

Open Arena is basically a FOSS clone of Quake 3 with rather low poly skimpy women, anime girls, a guy in a Tux costume, and has an overall more weird atmosphere. Any music that's present is also a bit weird, but yeah it's as close to Q3 as you can go here.

Cube 2 is notable for its in-gameplay level editing of CUBESSSSSSSS and everyone seemingly runs as fast as cars as is. In terms of functionality and stats, the weapons are based off either their Doom or Quake 1-3 equivalents. Everyone is notified of important pickups like Quad Damage and Health Increases and you have damage numbers present on hit. There's also some funky shit like 3D menus if you want them. Worth looking into as a curiosity.

Oh yeah, all the freely available arena shooters for some reason are all weird as fuck.

>>2699443
Fuck I meant THQ not Ubi, the former are dead ass nigs now

But yeah happy hunting and enjoy some vidya anon

>>2699446
May as well post the only other one I have because why not

Please tell me there's more that I forgot about /doom/

If I have a monster-replacing RandomSpawner that sometimes doesn't spawn anything, how much should I worry about maps breaking? (excludes boss monsters)

>>2699487
There would be an extremely minuscule chance of no Mancubi or Spiders spawning on a map like dead simple.
If a map07 only spawned one of those monsters, there could be trouble.

>>2699443
>>2699446
>>2699448
Wow. Haven't seen these in a dogs age.

>>2699505
Yeah, "boss monsters" includes Mancubi and Arachs, along with Barons. It's more Boom format maps I'm worried about.

do Terminus and Kurashiki cyberdate

>>2699576
boom doesn't really give you a way to associate arbitrary monster deaths with linedef actions either, no more than vanilla does anyway

"scripting" in boom uses voodoo dolls which won't be affected by your spawner (presumably)

i don't think it should be much of a problem

>>2699581
if you call drawing fanart of his mods cyberdating

in which case she is also cyberdating kegan, mike12, skillsaw, and the entire BTSX development team

>>2699604
Oh sweet. I was afraid monsters could be used as pseudo-voodoo dolls too, but from the sound of it they don't do any weird triggering effects. Thanks, Anon!

>>2699621
oh, i see. monsters can be used to trigger linedefs, but such usage is quite rare. you may break a small number of maps but by no means most of them, not much more than one would expect to break with any gameplay mod.

>>2699146
Most are pretty dead, Xonotic or Nexuiz (whichever the free branched from the other one is) is the one with the most active players.
You could also try playing Quakeworld. nquake.com gets you the shareware + the ezquake sourceport. You can play without downloading anything too if you like.
You can also just get Quake Live and play on servers with the Classic ruleset, or Duel.

>>2699349
Alternatively, just drop this file where it tells you to.
http://pastebin.com/F9WeQDnm

>>2699146
>>2699652
Also: https://twitter.com/SyncError/status/646877259534499841

They are fixing the damage for th last patch the game will receive. No loadouts, user servers, and more shit like that

>>2698747
Why do you think 4chan likes him so much?

They hate anyone with an ounce of charisma or really anything they don't have.

If you act out and even slightly confident they drop you because they can't identify with you anymore.

Why do you think pewdieshit is hated so much, he isn't even a person anymore he's practically a character.

>>2699697
I never got the impression people here liked him.

>>2699697
4chan or any of its board are not a single person.