/vr/ - Retro Games

Shouldn't a graph make things easier?
This is just confusing.

>>2667020
Maybe, maybe not. Let's add stuff to this for now and pretty it up later

>>2667021
Again. This makes no sense. So nobody would want to add on to it.

>>2667025
How would a graph be easier? Do you want like a pie chart or something to compare consoles? A line graph? Some columns?

>>2667025
I don't understand how it's confusing. Could you suggest a better format? This seems pretty easy to follow to me and this is a question people are constantly asking.

>>2667017
>shilling 3DS emulation
lel no
When I pirate I'm not looking to pay for some ebin CUSTOM MADE CARTRIDGE

>>2667029
Well for starters there's no context. The columns mean literally nothing for explaining what each is supposed to mean.

>>2667047
What? It's only 40 dollars and works very well. I don't understand. Do you expect to get everything free?
>>2667048
What else would you want a column to do besides explain what's below it? The context is the pro's and cons of each handheld in respects to emulation/homebrew. I don't understand what other context you'd like.

>>2667017
Definitive version of another emulator shitpost maybe. Otherwise it's the same shit different thread.

>>2667017
Bullshit. Check out the GPD XD, it's far superior than s7800b for 159.99.
Also
>3DS emulation

>>2667134
So wait, this has nothing to do with retro?

>>2667017
Could you please not use a picture of PSP Go? You're giving people a bad taste and it's misleading. Show a PSP 3000.

Actually on second thought, show a PSP Go in addition and state that it has 16GB onboard memory and ability to pair a Dualshock 3.

>>2667202
It's about emulation machines, so it's ok I guess

>>2667213
You can pair many controllers to all 3 consoles and even use the 3ds as a controller so that's a pro for all of them. Also the picture shows the 16gb PSP go. I like my PSP go though, bigger screen than the 3000, thinner, better battery life, and much more portable. I only use it for ps1/psp games though, I prefer my 3ds xl for general emulation.

>>2667219
It doesn't list any emulators. It's pretty much pointless.

>>2667254
Isn't there extensive emulation wiki's for pretty much all of these consoles?

How good is the DSTwo on romhacks? What does it play in terms of all games? Does it need special firmware? Reply to this post for an enlarged penis

Why isn't Windows on that list? With a non-Atom processor it blows the rest out of the water.

>>2667017
>PSP
>poorly emulated: GBA/SNES/NeoGeo

They're fine.

>>2667273
Not really. GBA/SNES/NeoGeo are wildly inaccurate and have <80% compatiblity and most games require frameskip. The PSP only has a 333mhz processor man. The processor in the DStwo alone is faster than that.
>>2667269
Perfectly fine

>>2667272
Because it's about emulation handhelds.
>>2667273
I thought most gba snes and neogeo games needed frameskip on the PSP? Also isn't the audio unsynched and kind of shitty for those consoles on psp?

>>2667296
There are Windows handhelds. And unlike the other three there are actually retro "first party games".

>>2667307
What is this mythical windows handheld gaming console? And the PSP arguably has the best selection of retro style games.

>>2667308
Too many to list.
Take this for instance, nice large clamshell style screen and still easily portable for a man. Can even play PSP games if you want to.

>>2667313

>>2667313
You're a cheeky cunt i'll give you that m8

>>2667156
>>2667047
not OP, but now with homebrew being available to everybody with a 3ds you can emulate things easily

http://wiki.gbatemp.net/wiki/List_of_3DS_homebrew_emulators

>>2667332
The DSTwo plugins supplements 3ds homebrew nicely as well.
http://wiki.gbatemp.net/wiki/DSTwo_Plugin

>>2667290
>less than 80% compatibility
I don't know about NeoGeo, and most of the SNES stuff I've tried has indeed been garbage, but emulating with GPSP is nowhere near that bad.

>>2667332
Only runs decently if you use an o3ds

"Ton of weeb shit (if you like that"
"Android bullshit (aka nothing)"
etc

Biased. I wouldn't even wipe my ass with that cart..

>>2667134
when it comes to emulation, why would you NOT expect everything for free?
you fucking mook

>NIntendo Shill: The Thread

I'm calling bullshit on OP. Nobody in their right mind would use a PSP Go for emulation. Earlier PSP models (namely an inexpensive 1000) are way more popular choices for portable emulation.

>hurr durr Sony fanboy

I don't even own a PSP currently. I do all my portable gaming on a GBA SP.

PSP GO is neat

>>2667308

>>2667307
>Windows
No thanks, I don't want to deal with that shit-tier OS.

>>2667691
You seem like a pussy magnet

>>2667691
Feel free to use GNU/Linux, BSD or whatever if you can do without of Windows exclusive emulators and games.

this console is probably the most reliable for handheld gaming but can play many home consoles too
furthermore it can even also, too

>>2667634
But anon. The PSP does have tons of weeb shit/import games. And android games do suck.

>>2667641
The PSP Go gets better battery life and can be OC'd more reliably though. Why would you use a 3000?

>Handheld emulation

>>2667668
This is about handhelds not about phones with a keyboard attached.
>>2667641
If you don't even own it how the hell are you qualified to comment. You're still using a fucking SP. Also the picture points out that the 3DS XL is substantially more expensive. But being triple the price it has some pros. Namely battery life, screen size, and emulator quality. The android devices being even more expensive have their own pros as well.

>>2667017
The dstwo is horrible for emulating anything other than gameboy games. Its too slow to run anything snes or newer, and the screen is too small to run nes and newer. Even most gba games run at half framerate. Gameyob is a great emulator though

>SAGE, REPORT, HIDE

and /vr/ shits all over a good helpful thread once again.

>>2667242
the picture shows a pspgo, and then says to buy an adapter memory card, which is impossible for it
also
>awful d-pad
you must be joking

>>2667273
It's weird how this just refuses to die. People don't know the magic of Snes9xTYLmecm or tempGBA. Crazy that OP would criticize those on the psp, but not on the dstwo of all things.

>>2667641
>>2667891
>>2667924
https://www.google.com/search?q=1437712088974
https://www.google.com/search?q=1434470090316
https://www.google.com/search?q=1440413299403

>/vr/ shitposters are literal homosexuals
Oh wow.

>>2667925
>a good helpful thread
OP was a high effort troll and it paid off

>>2667934
>being sad enough to google filenames
oh wow

>>2667932
But Snes9x and TempGBA PSP still usually need frameskip. And the majority of superFX games run like ass on the PSP. I've beaten Starfox 2 on my DStwo. You can even OC the SuperFX chip to get a better framerate on it.

>>2667273
GBA has audiosync issues that build up over time (restarting the emulator fixes it) and any mode7 effects slows the emulator to a crawl.

For Pokemon, Castlevania, and anything else entirely 2D though it's excellent.

>>2667934
>4chan is full of homosexuals

Yes, and...?

>>2667949
>still usually need frameskip
They usually don't. I'm not saying 100% of games run flawlessly, but the number of games that don't run at full framerate are very small, like you said usually games that use special chips. Super mario rpg is the only game I found to be unplayable on every emulator I tried. I'd rather play a game with a low frameskip than play them on a screen that's too low res anyway.

>TempGBA PSP still usually need frameskip
Just about every gba game I tried on the dstwo run at 30fps thanks to frameskip, even simple games like pokemon. Which of course runs perfectly on psp.

>>2667934
>the year of our lord 2015
>being homophobic
>>2667932
Also while Snes9xTYL and Gpsp/TempGBA worked miracles on the PSP they still run fairly poorly. Even many popular games run at 1/3rd or less speed. That being said, there are plenty of games that run just fine (SMW, Castlevania, Metroid) but even those games slow down in several parts. I had a PSP for years until I got a DStwo. The DStwo really is much better and worth the extra 60 bucks. If you don't have the money for a 3ds+dstwo though the PSP is still fantastic. It's over 10 years old at this point though, it was bound to be dethroned eventually

>>2667998
wiki.gbatemp net/wiki/TempGBA_Compatibility
That just isn't an accurate statement though. And it doesn't even matter since the 3ds has Native GBA support through PastaCFW. CatSFC on the DStwo even supports fast forwarding on SuperFX snes games.

>>2667242
The problem is, you are representing the PSP with the PSP Go, which cannot use the standard memory sticks you mentioned. It's contradictory. Just replace it with PSP 3000 and depict the PSP Go as an alternative in a smaller thumbnail.

Didn't mean to offend any PSP users. Is this better?

>>2667932
Snes9xTYL is a speedhacked piece of shit that adds many graphical errors to an already inaccurate emulator (Snes9x 1.39) and yet still can't get fullspeed without needing autoframeskip enabled.

It's not worth using unless your standards for SNES emulation are lower than the average ZSNES user.

>>2667927
I only used the Go because it fit nicely without distortion in the middle column. I didn't mean to discriminate. Also i've replaced the membrane on my PSP D-Pad nearly 6 times and it's pretty non tactile. Compared to the shield/jxd/3ds it's pretty bad. All 3 of which have pretty excellent d-pads.

>>2668114

>getting offended on 4chan

If this happen these people shouldn't be here to start with

>>2668114
List the screen size for PSP 2000/3000 and PSP Go separately, they're different.

Also under Misc, mention that PSP and PSP Go use different memory sticks, plus PSP Go has 16GB internal memory so a memory stick is typically not needed. PSP 3000 and prior can use an adapter so you can slip in 2 MicroSDs (which you sort of mentioned.) PSP Go can pair a Dualshock via bluetooth for 2 player in PS1 games, or just solo comfy time. Also please mention that PSP has video out for TV/recording/livestreaming, which is actually a considerable plus.

>>2667934
>accusing others of shitposting

>>2667313
don't talk shit about thinkpads

>>2667017
what a useless chart

try harder next time

>>2668698
>useless chart about a question that gets asked 10 times a day

>>2668114
"6-8 hours while playing 3DS games in 3D"

Top kek. The GameGear has a better battery life.

>homosexuals
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eE9JlONzrVU

>>2667915
It's not a phone, Pleb.

>>2668721
What? Game Gear gets like 3-5 hours.

>>2668251
I omitted the controller pairing since all of them can do that. Also all of them have the ability to use 2 micro/mini SD cards with adapters including the Go. i'm not sure why you'd think that was unique to the PSP 3000. Also the PSP Go is literally better in every way, i'm not sure why people in this thread are so buttmad about me putting a picture of the Go instead when it's the superior version of the device (biggest screen, best battery life, bluetooth, best quality screen, best response time, better nub placement etc etc.)

>>2668998
Forgot to attach pic.

>>2668794
shut up fucc boi. don't make fun of us

>>2667017
>x is love x is life
>burger countryballs krautchan america is fat memes

stop

>>2668998
This has to be some next level trolling because PSP Go has a smaller screen. Sony also gutted a component in the battery that can't determine the battery life properly. That's why the battery information settings section was taken out and the battery pip graphic doesn't actually work. If you install Dayviewer homebrew, the percentage number is mostly a bogus number.

Before more stupid shit comes out of this, I just want to say the screen size was downsized from 4.3 inches to 3.8 inches.

>>2669971
Vertical height is slightly taller which matters more for retro games. I think that's why he specifies that. Can confirm as I just measured it.

>>2669990
How does it work exactly? Aren't both 480x272 with the same aspect ratio?

>>2667313
>laptop is a handheld
Are you intellectually disabled?

>>2667017
DSTwo runs in DS mode, so display resolution is enough only for Gameboy systems (DSTWo GBA emulator is awful, by the way), Master System and Game Gear emulation. You're a full blown retard if you emulate NES, SNES or Genesis using it.

>>2670032
I can hold a laptop in my hands while playing. Maybe you are the disabled one if you can't.

>>2670197
>I can hold my desktop PC tower in my hands while playing. That means it's a handheld.

>>2670285
With a power source, monitor etc? Sounds unbelievable but if you say so I'm not going to question it.

>>2669991
Evidently not. The Go screen may be the same results but it is slightly taller.

>>2670064
3ds has native GBA support. Genesis, nes, snes, gamegear and master system have 90+ %compatibility nowand are full speed with asynchronous audio.

>>2670310
To add to that the latest dstwo SNES emulator runs super fx games (including starfox 2) over full speed. Not to mention that there are some 3ds homebrew emulators that run in 3ds mode.

>Faggots boasting about their ability to play GBA games 80% of the time with frameskip while not even considering Android

Nah, that's cool. I'm emulating Dreamcast at 60 FPS, playing shenmue right now. Later I'll play some Crash Team Racing and then pop onto the N64 for some OOT or Mario Kart, all with zero frameskip, while listening to music, while streaming a show on my TV that I won't even be watching, while texting during pauses and cutscenes. Sure it's contract. One hundred dollars. What kind of phone do you have, anon?

>durr touch screen

It's exceptional. Near perfect control. Tactile vibration response, utterly reconfigurable, a response rate that literally cannot be parrelled by physical buttons, it's simply not possible due to the nature of touch screens to overtake them in response time. Also you can attach a controller if you're a faggot.

Also I don't look like a child for carrying around a Gameboy in public, it's a professional level phone.

But nah, you keep telling yourself touch screen controls make it not worth it. Boy I sure can't play all my games literally with perfect precision, you got me there. Oh, and I can use the internet, because it's a fucking phone. :^)

>>2670310
>>2670319
And it also can't display amount of pixels required by games, so who cares?

>>2670389
>it's a professional level phone.
What does it mean?

>>2670390
Pros and cons to everything man. Your also playing on a fucking 4" screen. So things like that are for less noticeable compared to heavily desynched audio, input lag, or frameskip. Go away PSP fags. Its almost 10 years old now. Android has dethroned it as an emulation device. While the 3ds has the benefit of playing Ds and 3ds games. As well as emulating many consoles very smoothly

>>2670401
I guess I was just was picturing something you could pull out in a meeting, or in front of a girl you want to fuck. Not really professional.

To this day I can't understand how people can amulate with Android. The OS is shit for any realtime aplication like games. There is even a MAME port for Android. I can only imagine the horrors.

That doesn't mean PSP is much better though. Good luck emulating SNES with that thing. But at least you won't have a ridiculous imput lag with the emulators which do actually work.

>>2670414
There is no input lag caused by the OS. This is just some bullshit idiots on vr keep spewing.

>>2670414
>To this day I can't understand how people can amulate with Android.

That's because you're a moron who parrots the opinions of other morons on this site, rather than trying it for yourself and forming an opinion based on personal experience.

>>2667017
>Let's make a definitive version to stop all the arguing about it
We tried this with FF. We tried this with Gamepads.

Shit's not going to work and that will last a few weeks tops.

>>2670414
What? I've had several android devices and I regularly play shmups on them.. Have you ever actually used an android handheld to emulate?

>>2670414
>Amulate

>>2669002
>Android bullshit (AKA nothing)
Not quite. It has Pinball Arcade, Zaccaria Pinball (more tables from the 70s that PA doesn't have), some decent source ports out the wazoo outside of Doom for games like Commander Keen, Tyrian 2000, and Theme Hospital, the best King of Dragon Pass version because the screen actually has different sizes, and DQIV is better than the DS version because it has party chat (though obviously, you may just want to emulate NES for that).

Plus Kairosoft has some of the best sim games around but that's not retro.

>>2670285
>Feels tempted to try build a controller and screen into a microatx tower

>>2667017
>Best monster hunter games
oh no

I find is extremely ironic that people who rarely go outdoors insist on having all their games be portable.

>>2672214
>hello, I come from /v/

>>2672181
4 is really good but freedom unite just has more content period. I really like 4's refinements though. I just wish it had all of the areas from Freedom Unite. Luckily Cross will add all of that making it the perfect MH.
>>2672214
I like playing my games on the shitter/in bed instead of on the TV.

>>2673787
>hello i like men

>>2672214
You honestly expect me to go without videogames on the occasions I get forced outside? What kind of heathen are you?

>>2674292
You use Android?

>>2667932
I do, most rpgs I've played using that build of snes9x required frameskip to a point it was choppy to beat slowdown