/vr/ - Retro Games

Prepare yourself for the most unsatisfying ending ever its literally a cliffhanger. Used to piss me off so bad but now I can look forward. Fella Goodman.

>>2665256
>Japanese system
>PAL controller
this triggers my autism

>>2665421
Well...I've already sorta beaten it in the past, I just never finished the very end of the game (I had reached the village but stopped there).

>>2665526
PAL controllers are oddly easy to find. Got one new in box for like, $20 shipped a few years ago.

But the Dreamcast's birthday is November 27th.

I'll have to play some Ikaruga on Steam in celebration.

Finally got myself a copy of Cannon Spike so I guess I'll be playing that.

>>2665421
The ending gave me chills tbh.

I been playing through Shenmue II. Damn that game is overwhelming compared to the first.

I recently got the "goblin" arcade stick from Japan. Now I can finally play Cosmic Smash the way it was meant to be played and wow what a difference. Its so much more fun to play now.

I played some Bust a Move 4, Guilty Gear X, Bass Fishing (need the fishing rod controler) picked up Daytona USA, looking for Rayman 2 and waiting on my copy of Vampire Chronicles to show up.

Play illbleed you fruit loops.

>>2665256
I just got done restoring a yellowed Dreamcast. Been playing the shit out of Soul Calibur and some PSO.

>>2666753
I still don't see the appeal to that game. I have it and it just kinda... blows to be perfectly honest. Some of the game mechanics are kind of interesting, but other than that I couldn't stand playing it for more than an hour. I got it for free though, so ya know.

>>2666931
It's completely nuts and so bad it's good in a lot of ways. I wouldn't call it a good game, but it's certainly entertaining. Same with Blue Stinger.

>>2666931
Same here. I guess it's one of those games you either like or not. It's not even so bad it's good. That would be the voice acting in HotD

>>2665256
Shenmue
Resident Evil: Code Veronica
And maybe Sonic Adventure.

I'm gonna play The House of the Dead 2.

Also, voice acting aside does anyone think that the graphics have aged really well or are my nostalgia goggles blinding me?

Is PSO worth playing offline?

I only played it briefly the first time around back in early 2001 when it came out in the UK.

>>2665256
Dreamcast isn't retro

>>2667745

Tell me you have an actual lightgun and a CRT to shoot at

I have two first party japanese guns but because of moral panic over columbine I'm stuck either playing Virtua Cop 2 or gun games in moon runes.

>>2668453
>Is PSO worth playing offline?

This is the only way I've played PSO. I got into it long after the servers had shut down, so playing offline was my only option.

The hub area seems pretty empty since there aren't any other players around, but there are still various NPCs you can chat with. Sometimes, NPC allies accompany you on missions and help you fight your way through the area.

I enjoyed it.

>>2668469
FIFTEEN YEARS OF PLAYSTATION 2 THIS OCTOBER, BABY. YOU READY?!

What anniversary? The DC didn't come out in 1995.

>>2668613

> 1995 was fifteen years ago

>>2668469

>>2668475
I don't :/ planning on getting them for my next birthday though.

>>2667745
Aside from a few low res textures I think it still looks really good too.

>>2668469
that rule was changed about a year ago... It's really a bit pointless to try that troll at this point.

>>2668808

Honestly it wouldn't be a complete Dreamcast thread without the "Dreamcast isn't retro" meme showing up at least once.

I think on 9/9 I'm gonna play some more PSO, and try to (finally) finish Tomb Raider: The Last Revelation. Might get some Test Drive Le Mans in there too, because I like to just do freeruns while listening to music to unwind.

Might stream some gameplay too (my capture card supports VGA in, which is awesome).

>You will NEVER FUCKING EVER get an english translation to play the dreamcast games of your first ever manga and you will die COLD AND ALONE without it

Why.

>>2669054
You could have had all this time to learn the language you dingus.

>>2669075
You know he's just going to say that it's a waste of his "valuable time" to learn another language. Unlike bitching online about how people aren't willing to translate stuff for him.

>>2669054

Oh fuck how did I not know this was a thing?

My heart hurts now...

>>2669081
No, he's right, I could have learned Japanese, but I wasted my time learning serbian instead. The girl I was dating lived there, immersion helped.

I've considered paying someone to translate it though.

>>2669084
>people can only learn two languages
Wow.

>>2669054
Try to learn Japanese, dude

>>2668613
It has an anniversary every year.

It's not a milestone, no, but it's an anniversary.

>>2669054
>wanting to play harem shit visual novel non-games
So beta it hurts.

Where can I find all revivedc cdi rips? iszone is filled with shit

Where's my Powerstone 3?!

So damn weird, but so fun too.

>>2673142
Would also like know

I ended up having to cut my Dreamcast time down because my CD-Rs wigged out.

So I need to reburn shit. Then I can play stuff.

can we post collections? this is what i have so far.

>>2665846
>>2665526

too bad they were region locked eh

what the fuck were they thinking

>>2675929

> My collection

I'd played Crazy Taxi on my DC on its anniversary.

was kind of depressing, my disc has issues and the stage stopped loading halfway (so I was driving through nothing) through my run and I ended up flipping it upside down and all was better

none of my other DC games do anything like this, and none of my burns either
should probably burn another copy -- was using the original GD-ROM

>>2676114
well, the lightguns are
but I haven't seen any game on my US DC complain that my controller was from PAL-land

>>2675807
Bad media and weak burns are bad for your reader drives, including consoles, partially because they can be full of errors (forcing re-reads) from any number of physical or chemical flaws. Bad for your burners too in the long term, since they can require more power applied to your laser to burn, and/or require slower burning.

Use a good burner with updated firmware, use reliable media instead of cheap crap, and burn at the speed that produces the fewest errors in burn testing software for that particular drive/firmware/media combination *as tested in a drive that is known as a good reader* (important, some good burners are not necessarily the best readers and vice versa). Faster burning is better as long as it doesn't produce more numerous or more severe errors. Slower wears your burner's laser down more but reducing read errors should always be a priority.

Also keep in mind that Dreamcast lasers in particular are notorious for needing to be recalibrated just to read crappy burns after years of doing it without any apparent problems. So just because a crappy CDR/burn seemingly works well the first time, that won't last forever.

>>2673142
>>2674478
I'm anti-bootleg (but pro-backup and pro-beta). I do know that RDC deleted some of their own releases from the regular distribution channels due to some unexplained dissatisfaction over quality.

>>2678020
Is your Crazy Taxi scratched or does it look foggy in any way? Also, does the printed top of the disc feel overly thick or heavy compared to other discs? I'm curious about your problem.

>>2678308
>Is your Crazy Taxi scratched or does it look foggy in any way? Also, does the printed top of the disc feel overly thick or heavy compared to other discs? I'm curious about your problem.

it's very mildly scratched, disc doesn't look any foggier than any of my other GD-ROMs, top of the disc doesn't seem to have any issues.
It worked fine when I got it, could just be that I got unlucky and it's scratched somewhere important and the drive's error correction isn't able to deal with it.

and the DC seems to read better when I flip it upside down
I'd adjusted the laser on it before -- a while back, my DC would only read games properly when upside down (wasn't the lid sensor, it was throwing disc read errors at me instead of just dropping me to the bios menu), it's been fine post-calibration, other than Crazy Taxi wanting me to flip it upside down

Where is a reliable place to get DC disc images from? I just burnt 3 Capcom vs. SNK 2 ISOs and failed to boot it every time.

>>2679602
Does the hub area around the hole have any cracks in it, or feel thin/brittle?

Also, if you shine a flashlight through the label side of the disc, do you see any non-opaque spots or lines from the other side? Slightly translucent is normally fine, but any patches where the light shines through very brightly could be quite bad.

>>2679702
>Does the hub area around the hole have any cracks in it, or feel thin/brittle?
>do you see any non-opaque spots or lines from the other side?
Nothing of the sort.

The scratches don't seem that deep, should I get it resurfaced?

>>2679602
>the DC seems to read better when I flip it upside down
I found your problem. It's a playstation

>>2679730
that's actually why I even thought to flip the machine upside down

had to do it with a PS1, and later a PS2 would only play when sideways

>>2679709
First I thought focus issue or wobble due to external disc condition. Now I'm thinking laser power issue or reflective layer defect, but really I don't know for sure.

A pro resurface/polish is probably what I'd try next considering it's the only legit disc you have that's having this problem.

I had a dreamcast but I swapped it for a wii to play 4th gen stuff but honestly I regretted it so much, I'm swapping my PS1 for a jap dreamcast tomorrow.

I just found this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BX6FX0BXZLg

The start of this song really resembles Shenmue's music, and it's by the same composer, Takenobu Mitsuyoshi. It's probably only a year later that Project Berkeley started so I imagine he just rehashed it.
Pretty neat.

>>2681423

Neat

Picked up a DC today, so far have burned Sonic Adventure, Crazy Taxi, Bangai-o, and Gauntlet Legends, any thing good?

Hey what are some good arcade-style games on DC that are not shmups? Because yeah I know about the shmups. Even non-shmup shooters are welcome, I just want action I can pick up and play.

>>2684915
there are a bunch of easy-to-pick-up action games, but besides these:
>>2684882

I can recommend:
all the fighters from Capcom, SNK, Namco, and Sega, plus Guilty Gear X and DOA2
all the racers from Sega, plus MSR and others
Cannon Spike
various FPS (Half Life beta, UT, Q3A)

Cosmic Smash
Crazy Taxi 2
Dynamite Cop
Sonic Adventure 2
Virtual On OT
Virtua Tennis series

>>2685075
Any chance oyu have the Resident Evils in NTSC-U that you can upload for me?

>>2685149
nah, most of my DC stuff is actually originals

>>2685158
gggguuuuhhhh

What Dreamcast games are legitimately the best form of the game? I always see an endless list of things that got enhanced ports elsewhere, were trimmed-down from arcade, etc.

>>2685235
Lots of those enhanced ports had features removed and other changes though.

>>2685235
if it runs on a naomi board on arcades, it's the exact same on the dreamcast

>>2685235

Pretty much any of the Dreamcast and PS2 multi-plats were better on the Dreamcast. They either looked better or ran at a higher framerate or both.

> Resident Evil: Code Veronica
> Dead or Alive 2
> Grandia 2
> Quake III Arena
> Rez
> Crazy Taxi
> 4x4 Evolution

etc. The only game I can think of where the PS2 version is actually better than the DC version is Half Life, which has significantly better models and a better framerate on the PS2 version compared to the leaked Dreamcast version (this was mainly due to the difference in RAM between the two systems, 16MB vs 32MB).

When it comes to the Xbox and Gamecube versions, things tend to change (with the exception of things like ports of Resident Evil 2 etc).

My Dreamcast stopped reading discs. Thanks Japs.

>>2685865

How old was it?

If it took sixteen years to die I'd say that's not too bad in terms of hardware life. Have you even tried any of the repair methods yet? Something as simple as a q-tip and some rubbing alcohol could solve your problem in less than 30 seconds.

Anyone wanna throw a megaup for the selfboot folder for the bootdreams?

>>2685843
>The only game I can think of where the PS2 version is actually better than the DC version is Half Life,
Garou Mark of the Wolves was better on PS2 too

>>2686317
basically any game that's on the ps2 and the dreamcast, usually dreamcast is better

can I do offline multiplayer with one console for phantasy star online ver 2?

>>2688448
You mean like split screen? No.

>>2688465
I haven't played PSO in over a decade but there was a split screen mode, no? Or was that just in ver. 1?

>>2688470
That was on the Dreamcast 2

What do you think my Dreamcast setup is worth?

-Boots games just fine
-It's one of the models that can play backups
-Two 1st party controllers
-One 1st party VMU

>>2675929
>can we post collections?
>>2676714

>>2685169
Is it really that hard to find a link somewhere?

>>2688682
yes, althought get another vmu

>>2688692

>>2689242
>Space Channal 5
>Channal

>>2688682
I've bought a similar setup for 15 usd at a pawn shop. Maybe you could sell it on ebay for 20 or so if you get lucky.

>>2689242
Shit dog, I can't find proper rips of space channel or chu chu, you gotta throw that shit on mega up

>>2688695
no, but I wasted 10 discs to find a working copy
>>2689242
also more pics

>>2689278
Also looking for a rip of power stone 2

>The Dreamcast was released 30 years ago

>>2688692
>>2689242
>>2689892

Get a GDEMU and never look back.

So much better than burning discs.

>>2689942
>Here get my X
Fuck off shill

>>2689942
nah burning discs is better i dont want to open my console

>>2689249
kek

>>2689942
Shill

>>2689942
been looking to get one, is it reliable?

>>2690961
Yeah but it only takes up to 32gb sd cards

>>2691114
The thing only officially supports up to 32GB, but as long as the SD card is formatted properly, not a known shit brand and not defective in some way it should work fine. People have had cards much bigger than 32GB working on it. Biggest I've heard anyone try is 512GB.

best shootem ups and fighters on dreamcast?

>>2691163
Boggles my mind that anyone believes anything Sony ever says.

>>2691575
Fighters:

Literally everything Capcom and SNK released
Soul Calibur
Virtua Fighter 3
Fighting Vipers 2

SHMUPS:

Ikaruga
GigaWing
Gunbird 2
Border Down
Radirgy
Under Defeat
Zero Gunner 2
Mars Matrix
Castle Shikigami 2
Psyvariar 2

>>2691637
thanks man for the lists man been meaning to give my dreamcast a proper use yet, still saving for an arcade stick for the system

do burned games actually hurt the console or is that just anti-piracy fear tactics? i have a new in box per 2000 console, so i don't really care too much if my other console ends up dying quicker, just curious to whether this was ever definitely true, i keep getting two different answers.

>>2691984
Just a urban legend, if the laser shits on you just lube it up

>>2691984
Poorly burned discs don't force a reading laser to work harder but it will produce errors and force re-reads of the same sectors to attempt error correction. Just logs extra time on your drives, that's the only kind of wear.

Some discs force your burner to work harder by requiring more power to burn though.