/vr/ - Retro Games

>>2666889
>Mega Man & Bass, X6, the Zero series

Well, if I tried playing those to get started on the Megaman series, I wouldn't like it, either. Try some of the older NES titles, and MMX1.

>>2666889
>plays the worst of the series
>finds it doesn't appeal

Bait thread?

Dragon's Quest. Which is weird because I love RPGs, especially older ones. Also any Zelda games that aren't on handhelds.

>>2666894
>Zero series
>worst series
Bait thread it is.

>>2666889

why didnt you play the games that were most liked?
The only Retro Megaman games that sold more than one million units are Megaman 2, 3 and Megaman X.
2 and 3 in particular have a terrific classic soundtrack, that is why there are shitloads of covers of them on youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-WIBmzETBo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9__sJWMXjE0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbzXhqAQUtE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYoq05ASbhk

X6 is considered bad, Zero is a spin off, Mega Man & Bass is a late Japanese SNES game almost no one played.

For me? Metriod.

I played almost all of them except Zero Mission, Prime 2 and 3, and Other M.

I fully understand why people love these games, but for some reason I just can't get into this series.

>>2666892
>Guy doesn't find the games he played interesting
>Recommends games that are more boring than the ones already tried

Wow, aren't you a humongous retard?

>>2666906

The first time I played Super Metroid which I rented in Blockbuster I was like "holy shit, I cant believe how fucking immersed I am, it is like I am inside the movie Alien".
I think the games are great experiences the first time you play them, but I also think the games have little replayability.
I dont know if a random generated Metroid would be possible.

>"You don't like what I like, therefore this is bait"

wut?

>"But Anon, you played the worst of the series"

I had no way of knowing that. I just played whatever games I could get my hands on at the time. i.e. Whatever my friends owned.

I also briefly played a few of the Game Boy titles. I'm not sure if they're ports of the NES series, or completely original games. Either way, I didn't care much for them.

Since I never owned any Mega Man titles growing up, there's no nostalgia value for me. Maybe if I had been exposed to the games during my childhood, I would feel differently about them. Experiencing them for the first time in my late 20s and early 30s didn't leave me with much of an impression.

>>2666921
If you didn't like the games you've played, you definitely won't like the original NES series - they're the same formula as the games you've played already but with less features since they were the original games. People recommend them to you and consider them "better" because they're nostalgia faggots.

>>2666921

you dont know if you like or dislike Megaman games if you havent played the NES games.
There is a reason why Capcom right now is selling a Megaman collection for PC, Xbone, PS4 and 3DS that only has the 6 NES games.
The most popular Megaman games are 2 and 3.

>>2666889
Earthbound. I tried it, hated it, will call it shit every time it's mentioned.

At least take a look at X1. If you don't enjoy that, then you won't enjoy any of the other X games or Zero games.

>>2666897
>Dragon's Quest

No such thing nigger

>>2666889
>Mega Man & Bass
You absolutely won't start getting into megaman with this one.
>X6
Poorly put together, trash.
>Zero series
Better be familiar with the X series already before getting into that.

>The only game that seemed kind of interesting was Legends
Eh. The formula is totally different from the standard megaman game.

>>2666889
The whole Zero series is trash, I don't blame you for not liking it.
X6 is the second worst X game.
Never played Mega Man & Bass so can't comment on it.

Try playing the classic games and X series - feel free to drop the series after X5 though, you aren't missing out on much.

Anyway I just can't get into Alundra, it feels like a piss-poor clone of ALTTP (which I didn't think much of to begin with) with a story that tries way too hard to be tragic and quite possibly the worst platforming in any game I've ever played. That's just my take on it, anyway.

Also I don't like fighting games, of any kind. Except Soul Blade, that was pretty cool.

>>2666913
It's like with RPGs, especially of the Japanese kind. They're great for experiencing the first time, but after that you're just doing the same old shit again.

>>2666934
Play Mother 3, it's way better in every regard.

Lunar
Dragon quest series for me too.
also,
> Super Mario.
Can't play any mario games for shit, don't know why. Like seriously.

>>2666889
>starting with fucking X6

Nigga start with X1, it is the real litmus test of the series. If you don't like that game you definitely won't like the rest of the series.

>>2666906
>Metriod
I once met a guy who pronounced it Me-tee-roid.

>>2666889
>Retro series you can't get into
>MM Zero
not retro

>>2666889
For me it's the Ghosts 'n Goblins series
I don't understand why people would play those games twice

>>2667542
>He isn't a masochist

>>2667542
I got the NES version as a kid and I was so disappointed in it, it's a straight up bad game, but the arcade version is not. I've grown to really like the series but it seems like the popularity of the games is almost in reverse order of how good they are.

>>2666889
I know this is a standard tactic for trolling /vr/ at this point, but I grew up a Nintendo kid, and once every couple years I give Sonic 1 or 2 another go and they're just not that fun. Pretty much every other Sega franchise I really like, but that was just won't click.

>>2667330
>The whole Zero series is trash
*tips fedora*

>>2667729
smh tbh fam

I can't get into any SNES games. They use too many colors and not chip music. They don't have blast processing so everything move in slomo. I tried to play space invaders one time and they aliens got old and died before they got to bottom of the screen.

> mfw playing snes games

>>2667810
I feel a similar way, only with most PS1 games.

FFVI.
I played VII in the past and enjoyed it well enough, but if I actually think about how much of the gametime is skinner box grinding and stupid subplots I only barely remember, I don't think I'd enjoy a replay either.

I think JRPGs just aren't for me.

>>2667542
git gud

JRPGs . I have played a bunch of them but there is only a few I actually enjoyed

News flash! Just because a game or genre is very popular does not mean it will appeal to everyone.

And no, just because you don't like it doesn't mean it is overrated.

Nor does it mean those that do enjoy it only do so through nostalgia goggles.

It doesn't mean there is anything wrong with you or the game

Metal Gear Solid

I've play the first two games, and with each of them I was never really having true fun. I think I was just playing them because I had them and they're one of those game series you're supposed to play.

Call me a filthy fucking casual but I just finished X2 after doing X1 and I didn't like either because of the bosses.

They aren't "difficult", it's just that they have a specific pattern that you have to figure out, and the only to do so is to die a couple times. It felt like an artificial method of inflating the games length.

>>2667873
>needing to grind in FF7

It was my first JRPG and I breezed through it without ever having to grind once.

>>2667873
I'm pretty sure people have beaten ffj6 with group members being <20

Most RTS games in general, even though I love me some TBS.

About the only exception was Settlers 2.

>>2667232
I was a Genesis kid and the only Megaman games I had played before M&B were Legends 1 and 2. I played it and liked it, then had fun with the others. After Battle Network that is.

>>2668084
Some people really want to like a game because it looks fucking cool, but can't get into it.

It's not pressure that you have to like something because it's popular, because it "counts," or whatever.

>>2669916

Have you tried Rome Total War?

>>2666889
If you want to get into Mega Man try 1-6 or X1-X3. Don't ever touch Zero, it's dogshit.

>>2672590
>Don't ever touch Zero, it's dogshit.
Kill yourself ASAP.

>>2666894
>>2667330
>>2672590
What's with all the Zero hate all of a sudden?

Last time I checked /vr/ liked the series, or at the very least didn't mind it.

>>2672598
>What's with all the Zero hate all of a sudden?
Nostalgiafaggots and millennial hipsters trying their hardest to fit in.

>>2672598
It's one guy that probably thinks it was too hard. There's nothing wrong with the Zero Series.

>>2672606
Seriously wut. Zero series is great.

Legend of Zelda


I only like the second one and I think it's a really fantastic game. The others are shit

>>2672634
I think all the pre-WW games range from decent to good in their own ways.

>>2666889
Mega Man's appeal is simple, it's a fun action platforming game with nice visuals

It's very easy to pick up and play, but the stages are still challenging in a fun way. Only problem is the trial and error shit, but that never bothered me.

>The Sonic series
Something about the physics really annoys me; I just don't like how the character handles. Nothing else about the games grabbed my attention enough for me to feel like trying to acclimate to it.

>Pokemon
They seem like incredibly simplistic and grindy RPGs

>>2666897
I like the original Dragon Quest, but I could never get into any of the others.

>>2672634
The second game is definitely my favorite one. I enjoy most of the other 2D entries as well, though.

>>2674246
The thing that really defines Pokemon is its multiplayer.

I also like the game, but I find it funny that you enjoy the first Dragon Quest but dismiss Pokemon as 'incredibly simplistic and grindy'.

>>2674249
>I also like the game, but I find it funny that you enjoy the first Dragon Quest but dismiss Pokemon as 'incredibly simplistic and grindy'.

I won't deny those faults, and it's by no means one of my favorite games. I mostly enjoyed the exploration, resource management, and feeling of isolation. Traversing a dungeon is pretty tense when you have limited light sources, limited healing, no allies, and no idea how much further it goes.

>>2672598
>/vr/ liking something that isn't retro

Also the Zero series simply doesn't compare to the classic and (first half of) the X series.

>>2672606
>anyone who doesn't like what I like is a hipster

Ebin meme fam.

And if anything it's the nostalgiafaggots who think the Zero series is flawless and the best Mega Man series.

>>2666892
Megaman & Bass is my favorite and I started with Megaman 1 when I was 5 years old

I still remember this screen

Perhaps you don't like the platformer genre.

>>2672631
>There's nothing wrong with the Zero Series.

The story is total dogshit and the level design and enemy placements (especially in the second game) were unforgivable.

To be fair it's still way better than the latter half of the X series.

>person says they dont like x game
>people recommend y game of similar type
I don't think OP meant to suggest games artards.

>>2674421
>artards

Wizardry
X-COM
Dragon Quest

>>2666905
>X6 is considered bad

Maybe if you're a youtube celebrity-parroting memester.

>>2667542
First game is very bad on NES, barely passable on the arcade version.

GnG and SGnG are wonderful games though, if you haven't played them I highly recommend them.

Koei strategy games.

>>2674380
>/vr/ liking something that isn't retro
Are you implying you have to shit on newer games, regardless of their quality, in order to fit on /vr/? I think you missed the actual /vr/ memo buddy.

>Ebin meme fam
>hipster
Also, who are you quoting? I suggest you go back to /v/.

>>2668572
Certain appeal of Metal Gear Solid is timeless, but other aspects you had to live it during the era. It's not a shallow game, but on the surface, it was mind blowing cinematic experience (cinematic in a positive way) that aligned itself with the push of the PS1.

Games following MGS1 were more about finding out what happens, learning more about other cultures, time periods, world issues, being humored, and just generally taking another acid trip into Kojima's mind, along with the ever evolving cinematography.

>>2677181

I've never seen a youtube celebrity talk bad about MMX6.

The game is just a mess of design tbh

>>2674397
>The story is total dogshit
Not any more than the original X story.

>and the level design and enemy placements (especially in the second game) were unforgivable.
__________gitgud, sucker.

>>2677308
>Not any more than the original X story.
It is far worse because they force you to slog through it for long stretches where as it barely existed in the original X story until X4.

>__________gitgud, sucker.
It's still shit, sucker.

>>2666906
>I played almost all of them except Zero Mission, Prime 2 and 3, and Other M.

...No, seriously, WHAT metroid games did you play?

The first metroid? Metroid II? Because I doubt that. So you only played Super Metroid, Metroid Prime and maybe Fusion?

Because the best ones are the ones you didn't play. Granted, I don't know how you didn't like Super Metroid, but besides that, looks like you only played shit.

>>2666921

Kinda strange you got to play X6 but not X4 or X5.

Also, yeah, you DID fucking play the worst games in the series. Fuck, why not literally any other of the X series? Or any other classic megaman? Surely you must realize you only played a few and they are nobody's favorite in the franchise.

>>2674397

The second Zero game is the worst. The first one also had it's problems, but it's still better than X6 for example.

MMZ3 and even 4 were pretty great

>>2678187
Fusion isn't even that bad, it's no worse than Mega Man fucking Zero.

>>2678205
I'll give you that, Z3 is indeed a massive improvement over Z2. And I can forgive the first game because it was the first game, but with the second they should have had a full understanding of what did/didn't work by then.

What are the best Mega Man Zero games? My time constraints don't allow me to play through all the games chronologically.

>>2678190
>they are nobody's favorite in the franchise.
>half the thread is people defending the Zero series

>>2678205
>>2678231

MegaMan fans never fail to surprise me with how awful their tastes are. Really? Zero 2 the worst? What the fuck did it even do wrong? I'm expecting some bullshit nitpicky answer that just says "I really suck at this game".

>>2678419
>What the fuck did it even do wrong?

Improve on literally nothing from the first game aside from the chain rod and a few gimmicky forms which were completely optional, and if anything chose to focus on the first game's worst aspects.

>MegaMan fans never fail to surprise me with how awful their tastes are.

Or me, for that matter. Nor do they fail to surprise me at how they take any dissenting opinions as personal insults, truly the most cancerous fanbase ever this side of Sonic autists, especially the Zerofags.

>>2678172
>where as it barely existed in the original X story until X4
Coincidentally X4 happens to be the best game in the X series.

>It's still shit, sucker.
Nah m8.

>>2678323
Z3.

Z4 is the overall best in the series but I recommend you play it when you eventually get around to playing the whole series chronologically.

>>2678429
X fags were the original Zerofags though. In either case classicfags tend to be the worst because of their holier-than-thou narrow-minded opinions.

From personal experience Legend fans seem to be the chillest.

>>2678435
>Coincidentally X4 happens to be the best game in the X series.

Agreed, even the voice acting was so bad it's good.

X5 was meh though, and X6 was plain shit.

>>2678437
The Legends series is pretty niche even among the Mega Man franchise, that would explain why.

Also I personally never had any problems with the classicfags. Well not yet, anyways.

I can't get into the Breath of Fire series. The music is pretty lackluster in BoF 1&2, and 4 has terrible pacing.

Never played 3, but I don't think I'll try any time soon.

>>2678448
If you didn't like 4 then you more than likely won't like 3.

>>2666925
I didn't play any of the classic games at all in my youth, but played the X and Zero games. I played the classics in something like 2011 and prefer them despite my nostalgia for X.

>>2666906
I've only played Super Metroid but I couldn't get into it either. The gameplay feels too sluggish.

If I feel like playing an SNES platform shooter I'd much rather play Megaman X or Contra III. For exploration, I much prefer the more organic way A Link to the Past does it over finding weapon upgrades to open colour-coded doors from one hallway to another.

Overall SM didn't seem to have much going for it, except for the atmosphere, which is supposedly reminiscent of the movie Alien.

>>2678660
This. I honestly preferred ZM to SM.

>>2666889
>& Bass
>X6
There's your problem.

>>2678231
I still don't get all the wanking about Z3, it is by far the most bland and uninspired game of the 4.

>>2681184
It did a lot more for the series than Z2 did, at least from a gameplay standpoint.

Hi people, I have a question

How do Megaman X2, 3 and 4 fare in the soundtrack department in comparison to the first one?
I always got the impression that they were as good in gameplay and level design as the first one, but didnt match the music.

>>2681812
You mean that dumb cyberspace for pussies?

>>2681883
I agree with you. I mostly blame the instrumentation, actually. Those guitars sound like horns. X3 in particularly tries to sound like aggressive hair metal but ends up sounding like a sentai hero show.
Check out the sega genesis remix with proper guitar samples, it's like night and day.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17CjPbxdBeI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ECzMhY4hL8

>>2681883
Also, X4 used the QSound driver thing, if you're familiar with Darkstalkers, Street Fighter Alpha and Breath of Fire 3 you should have an idea how jazzy the sampling sounds. X5 and X6 used streamed audio instead.

>>2681883
>How do Megaman X2, 3 and 4 fare in the soundtrack department in comparison to the first one?
Not as good.
>I always got the impression that they were as good in gameplay and level design as the first one
They weren't. Especially X3 and X4. X2 has better gameplay though.