/vr/ - Retro Games

Yeah, fuck off and die.
There's a tip for you /v/ FUCK FACE.

>hey guys about to watch this movie for the first time, WHAT SHOULD I EXPECT xD

>HEY GUYS, IM GIVING YOU A CHANCE TO SPOIL THE GAME FOR ME, HURRY UP AND DO IT BEFORE I START

>Any tips?

Yes. Play the Genesis game instead.

expect a shitty game with a generic story

>>2666687
Yes, expect it.
Because then you can be blown away by its awesomeness.

>>2666593
Yes. Go out and find the roleplaying game, and play that instead. I enjoyed the SNES game, but it's nowhere near as fun as playing with other people

>>2666702
i actually beat the game unlike you cyperpunk poseurs and it was horrible. the gameplay is so bad that they give you an invisibility spell because it becomes impossible to do anything in battles late-game because they dump 10+ guys on you. hacking fucking blows. the story ends up being you stopping some random unrelated dragon for no reason. shadowrun myth is fucking stupid because it throws in all that tolkien faggotry. only thing good is the music but it sounds like low quality compressed ass on the snes audio chip.

haven't got around to playing the megadrive game but it can't get much worse than SNES

>>2666593
Yeah, this is a big one. You do NOT have to finish the duel arena thing in one go. Just do enough so that you can leave that place, then go get some better equipment and stuff and THEN come back and finish it. You have no idea how many times I had to reload trying to finish the arena because I didn't know that you can come back later to finish it. If you try to beat it without upgrading your equipment then it completely depends on luck.

>>2666707
> he needs invisiblity to be good at the game

PLEB DETECTED

>>2666593
Well, first off, you can ignore these assholes. >>2666595 >>2666602 >>2666687, though 6602 is right about playing the Genesis game IN ADDITION to playing the SNES, they're completely different experiences.

>Actual advice
-Dont buy every gun, they arent all necessary
-All the cyberware is useful but you dont need it all as soon as you find it.
-Most of the time you wont need Runners, save up nuyen for the last few runs (you'll feel when the game starts wrapping up)
-pick up everything that looks out of place
-Even if something makes sense to you, and you're probably right, try using other things to solve problems. You'll get an extra laugh here and there. Always be curious
-The game has a healing spell (once you find the ingredients and a shaman), and there are several places to sleep, think about what else you might do with a healing item
-Speaking of beds: Your mother worries you're not getting enough sleep, so put her mind to rest and hit the mattress early and often. Your life, and progress, depends on it.

Jake, there's so much more I could tell you right now but I think it's time you find out for yourself

>>2666707
>shadowrun myth is fucking stupid because it throws in all that tolkien faggotry
What are you, a retard? That's what makes it stand out from other cyberpunk settings, that's what makes it interesting.

>got bored and stopped after the junkyard

I'm sorry but this combat is just fucking mind numbing. You do nothing but hover the cursor over them and spam weak little bullets since you can't move and shit or anything.

Also getting ANYTHING decent from shops requires hardcore grinding.

>>2667647
Should have stuck with your /v/ hong kong fuey garbage version kid. This game is for true fans of shadowrun and cyberpunk, not sissy faggots that only just found out about it because the new shit new versions

GET REKT NUB
>he can't even beat the junk yard
TOP KEK

>>2667647
you just have to grind a bit in the junkyard to beef up your stats so you can win in the arena. like another poster mentioned, you shouldn't buy every gun or armor. get the shotgun and whatever the best armor is in the first shop. by the time the best weapon and armor become available in the other shop, you should have plenty of money from cleaning out drake tower and part of the volcano.

the combat is probably the worst part of the game.

>>2667965
>the combat is probably the worst part of the game.

It's my favorite part of the game.
Not a lot of shooter RPG's.

>>2666593
There are spots where you can take the easy way out (paying to get out of the junk yard) or take it to the fucking hilt and grind that shit until you drop everyone.

Then there are spots where you feel like a retard because you end up collecting dog bones, mermaid scales, ink, and other dumb shit. You need it all, figuring out what to use it on can be a bit of a pain.

Most street level combat you just end up running through because people pop their stupid heads out the windows and take pot shots at you. Killing everyone that tries to take a shot at you will double the length of the game in no reasonable way.

Once you get the shield spell, you better put everything in magic because you're going to need it. Trust me.

Over all I liked the game a lot, it just has a lot of those old RPG point and click elements that will halt your progress and have you reaching for a game guide.

>asking for tips on /vr/ before starting a game for the first time

>>2667976
It would be better if you could control the cursor with a mouse instead of dragging it around sluggishly via the D-Pad. Also would be better if you could actually move around while shooting, like the Genesis game.

>>2667378
No, you're the retard. Superficially copying two settings and dumping them into one isn't interesting, it's something a fickle child would come up with. Either give me well-done cyberpunk or well-done fantasy, not a shitty hodge podge of both.

For the record, the father of cyberpunk, William Gibson, also hates ShadowRun due to this.

>>2668068
Except Neuromancer, which was created by William gibson and is considered the inspiration for modern day cyberpunk has a magic shapeshifter in it.
So either you're spewing bullshit, or william gibson is a complete retard

>>2668102
>spewing bullshit
On 4chan? Get outta town!

>>2668059
They should have just released it as Shadowrun II on sega, with Enforcer gun capability.

>Holster that shit on your side
>quick draw mcgraw some nigger sharp shooters when they pop up

>>2668102
>has a magic shapeshifter in it.
I don't remember this.

>So either you're spewing bullshit, or william gibson is a complete retard
See for yourself

http://web.archive.org/web/20070627074200/http://www.peak.sfu.ca/the-peak/98-3/issue7/gibson.html

>So when I see things like ShadowRun, the only negative thing I feel about it is that initial extreme revulsion at seeing my literary DNA mixed with elves. Somewhere somebody's sitting and saying 'I've got it! We're gonna do William Gibson and Tolkien!' Over my dead body!

>>2668102
>Neuromancer
>has a magic shapeshifter in it
no it fucking doesn't
i mean, c'mon, okay, gibson's constant sucking up to the english lit dept. faggots he wishes were his colleagues can make him a little hard to take, but just flat out making shit up isn't going to impress anybody

>>2668112
Gibson is entitled to his opinions, but I personally really love the mixture. Have some gritty low class Orc with cybernetics and guns casting spells is the ultimate cool to me.

>>2668115
Yes it does, they ambush that guy outside his door and he turns into a fucking monster and shit.

>>2668120
Let me guess, you're a Warhammer 40k fan, right?

>>2668120
>Have some gritty low class Orc with cybernetics and guns casting spells is the ultimate cool to me.
this is shameful and you should be ashamed of it
it's basically exalted, the 1980s version

>they ambush that guy outside his door and he turns into a fucking monster and shit
what
i reread that book like six months ago and i am prepared to positively state that that did not fucking happen
prove me wrong

>>2668130
No. I don't play pen and paper/miniatures even.
I tried to with Shadowrun, but meeting strangers to play a game was too weird. I like the video games, and own the pen and paper stuff just in case one day I can play it. Its fun to read and look at anyways.


>>2668132
>The back of the fallen man's jacket heaved and burst, blood splashing the wall and doorway. A pair of impossibly long, rope-tendoned arms flexed grayish-pink in the glare. The thing seemed to pull itself up out of the pavement, through the inert, bloody ruin that had been Riviera. It was two meters tall, stood on two legs, and seemed to be headless. Then it swung slowly to face them, and Case saw that it had a head, but no neck. It was eyeless, the skin gleaming a wet intestinal pink. The mouth, if it was a mouth, was circular, conical, shallow, and lined with a seething growth of hairs or bristles, glittering like black chrome. It kicked the rags of clothing and flesh aside and took a step, the mouth seeming to scan for them as it moved.

>>2668141
Responding to myself here.

Maybe the way he described the guy just made it seem like a monster, I don't know I'd have to read that whole chapter again. I don't know why he'd detail it like that though if he was just describing a man in a weird way though.

>>2668141
Oh, yes, of course, that. And if you knew how to fucking read, you'd know that that wasn't actually what happened, but just an illusion Riviera threw with the same hologram-generating gear he used for his show at the restaurant, and in pretty much every other scene where he appeared in the entire fucking novel.

Jesus H. Christ, what an idiot.

>>2668169
Why would any body be afraid of a monster hologram in that universe if they don't even exist?

That's like turning yourself into a pink elephant and expecting people to believe it's real.

>implying they wouldn't just go "hey, yeah that's fake, monsters don't exist, you wasted your time making this hologram"


>Calling me an idiot.
Fuck off faggot. I haven't read this book since the 90's and I know more about it than you. kek.
>A DUH, HE NEVER TURNS INTO A MONSTER IN DUH BOOK, I JUST READ IT LAST WEEK AND CANT REMEMBER SHIT

>>2668169
>Jesus H. Christ

*tips defora* m'lady

>>2668120
>cybernetics
>casting spells

Way to gimp your character.

>>2668171
Hey, I didn't say the scene was well written. I just said you fucking read it wrong because you're an idiot. I mean I read that fucking book for the first time when I was like ten, and even then I understood it correctly. Stop trying to make excuses for being a moron. Admitting you have a problem is the first step to overcoming it.

>>2668182
>I mean I read that fucking book for the first time when I was like ten

So like 5 years ago? wow, my how you've grown!

The fact that you keep insulting my intelligence leads me to believe you are an insecure loser who feels he has finally accomplished something with his life by knowing something in a fantasy novel on an anonymous image board.

#rekt
you can leave my thread now, fam tbh smh.

>>2668171
>>2668186
man look at all this anus agony
it's almost like somebody struck a nerve or something

>>2668179
WORTH IT

>NO ONE IS EVER ALLOWED TO MIX GENRE
>MY LITERARY PURITY

>>2668214
Yeah IDK wtf is going on in this thread. /vr/ has come down with a case of /v/ over the last few days or something.

Anyway, fun game, but I like the genesis version more. Have fun.

So, where's the discussion of the Neuromancer adventure game?

>>2668392
Nobody plays it because of the shite graphics/DRM wheel it had.

I managed it though and loved it to death.
Shadowurn on sega ripped the hacking from it.

>>2666593
Dog controls your destiny.

>>2667681
I love the game, but he's right that it has a lot of very tedious parts, the Junkyard is NOT fun.

>>2668537
I guess I just love shit sandwhiches.

I loved grinding up to take down those fucking asshole behemoths and wracking up mass money to buy new guns and cybernetics with each one I conquered in the duel pits.

>>2668102
>has a magic shapeshifter in it.
No it doesn't. Do you mean the anarchist with the active camo suit or the junkie with the hologram implants?

Sounds like you need to reread Neuromancer. I envy you.

>>2668542
Man, I regret posting this after having read the rest of the thread.

I also regret having posted this gif elsewhere.
http://i.4cdn.org/vr/1441664672709.gif

>>2668542
I havent read it in forever, but everytime I think of re-reading it I start remember how much of a chore it was.

He goes into way to much detail about everything, I mean I get hes trying to paint the picture of his universe for you, but shit.

I think that was mainly only a problem in the first few chapters now that I think about it though.

>Man, I regret

so delete your posts


Also, I think they changed it so you can post the same picture in different threads now. At least it was working on /tv/

Jake Armitage is one of the most powerful figures in all of Shadowrun. Nobody shoots straighter, nobody can match his decking, and his spells can blow you away. He can exploit life & death in order to amass a fortune. He almost single-handedly annihilated the Drake corporation and killed its Dragon CEO. Killing a Dragon in Shadowrun is a Big Deal.

The SNES game is his story. Play it.

>>2668568
Is he "The One?

>pretty sure the wachowskis played the SNES game

this picture is too much of a coincidence, looks like morpheous with some hair

>>2668567
I never had a problem with it. Regarding my post, it was the start of a thread I'd like to keep around, but I'll try posting the pic again just to test it.

>>2668102
>or william gibson is a complete retard
He's anti-gun, so I'd say, he's a little bit retarded.

But I do like the fantasy elements combined with cyberpunk, it makes it more fantastical and interesting.

>>2668571
Isn't the game vaguely based on the novel "Never cut a deal with a Dragon" ?

>>2668601
>He's anti-gun

Oh no wonder.

>>2668604
Probably, yeah.

>>2668616
The cover almost reminds me of Big Trouble In Little China.
I like that.

>>2668623

Must be that outfit.

>>2668571
>puts on sunglasses
>is now unrecognizable to those morticians despite him scaring the shit out of them before

>>2670027
I always just thought they were to look cool, kek.
Didn't ever think that, that was the purpose of them in game.

>>2670040
You never got very far did you?

>>2670048
I've beaten the game 10 times, never had a problem needing the glasses, because you get them soon after you leave the morgue hitting up your apartment.

Nice try though.

>>2666708
You can get really lucky and keep reloading.
I usually git gud nuff to kill the king, leave w cash upgrade and go back for the harder duels.

play it on winasis.

>>2670062
No, I mean, you need the glasses to progress.
The way you said it made it sound like you never did

>>2670241
Ah, no. I just meant they just give them to you so soon that I never had a chance to think "hey, maybe if I put these glasses on I can get back into the morgue and chit chat"

>>2670250
Yeah if you go back to the morgue without the sunglasses, the morticians recognize you as the 'corpse' which just recently walked out of there and scared the bejesus out of them, they'll run and hide, but once you have the sunglasses and put them on, they somehow won't recognize you anymore, always thought that was a little funny.

Don't buy cheap guns and armor in the shops.
Just grind a little to buy the best.

There are some late game enemies that you can't beat with weak weapons, like the orc gang leader on the old tanker.

>>2671704
This, don't bother with a lot of the small pistols, work on trying to afford the Warhawk pistol or T250 Shotgun, you'll save a lot of time and money by just trying to work up to these guns.

If you feel the little Beretta pistol is too weak and it doesn't do enough against enemies, the Viper Heavy Pistol can be had for just 3000, it does a fair bit more damage, and shoots kind of fast, so it's a pretty decent step up, it can make it easier to step up to better stuff later by making it easier to kill.

I started this the other day, but after an hour of running around aimlessly I gave up. What did I miss in my eternal retardedness that indicated what to do?

Or is the point that you're supposed to be running around a bit like that to find where to really go and I've just lost my 1990's patience?

>>2672032
If you had played a RPG once in your entire life you would know that people give you information.
If you talk to them about stuff, they give you feed back.

Talk to whoever you can on the phone and in clubs and shit.

Walking the Shadows/The Morgue is one of the best video game songs I've ever heard tbh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I23xPqI1dSM

>>2672032
talk to everyone and use all the keywords on everyone. pick up every item you can.

the least intuitive part in the beginning is probably giving the thirsty patron in the bar some iced tea. and then you need to go back to the morgue in disguise.

>>2666593
Love the GENESIS version of the game, always wanted to try the SNES version since it has a much better story. Keep us posted!

>>2668068
William Gibson has no clue about technology and how it works, so it's a fair deal. He made a setting about magic-like technology enabling powerful corporations to oppress everyone, why not taking it to the logical next step.

1. Expect a very simple, mostly nonsense story that is dripfed to you very, very slowly.
2. Use a walkthrough if you value your free time.
3. Play the genesis game instead.

>>2666593
Turn it off and play the sega one.

>>2673045
But that involves having to listen to a tinny and metallic Sega soundchup D=

OP here thanks for the tips guys. Just finished the game, and I thought it was pretty decent. I got really stumped a couple of times (missed the scalpel at the start, never saw the airlock switches on the boat which lead to a hilarious death). The way the story is slowly revealed to you is mostly what kept me playing because I wanted to know what would happen. My only real complaint is the massive slowdown in later fights, but that might just be an emulator thing. I'll definetly checkout the genesis game, and some of the books to get more of the setting.

>>2673409
I think it's a cool, but ultimately flawed game.

Kinda wish someone would have made a romhack with brand new levels and stuff just for fun.

>>2673409
>the massive slowdown in later fights
that happens on the snes, too

>>2666707
The story is pretty generic and the matrix does suck (there's very little of it as well)

>it becomes impossible to do anything in battles late-game because they dump 10+ guys on you.
Not sure what you need invisibility for, you need to cast that spell like zero times in the game, it's basically useless.
You can shoot them and kill them like you've been doing up til that point. Or use magic and blow a few of them away by yourself. Honestly you don't even need to hire runners in the game, you can just solo it.

> shadowrun myth is fucking stupid because it throws in all that tolkien faggotry.
Granted.

>but it sounds like low quality compressed ass on the snes audio chip.
So a SNES game sounds like a SNES game and that's your complaint?

>>2673639
>shadowrun myth is fucking stupid because it throws in all that tolkien faggotry.
>Granted.

>agreeing with a retard

Shadowruns magic/orcs/dwarfs is from nuclear mutations which makes a lot more sense than tolkiens universe

>>2673645
>>agreeing with a retard
>disagreeing with something true because a retard happened to be right about something.
If a retard says 2+2=4 you're going to cry nuh uh? Really? Really?

I'm not agreeing with him because he's a retard, that's granted because it's true. Magic is inherently fucking retarded and shits on stories and ends up being deus ex machina bullshit. Worse is when it's thrown into scifi. Hard scifi is the most relatable and it's generally better for being responsible for it's own plot and cyberpunk fits with hard scifi perfectly.

>Shadowruns magic/orcs/dwarfs is from nuclear mutations
That actually makes no sense whatsoever. Since that's not how shit works despite what all your marvel/dc training has told you.
Also, it's not though. Magic came from The Awakening which, which was the current end of the lull in magical energies in the universe which happens cyclically. Orks/trolls/elves/dwarves/awakened were 'always here' but took on their 'true forms' due to the magical energies... which makes sense, so yeah. And also dragons because fuck yeah dragons apparently.

>>2673662
>If a retard says 2+2=4 you're going to cry nuh uh? Really? Really?

stopped reading here.
No wonder you agreed with the retard, YOU ARE ALSO A RETARD. top kek.

>>2673665
Are you actually suggesting that two plus two doesn't equal to four?

Also congratulations on your logical fallacy and being fucking stupid apparently. I'm fine if you crawl back under the rock you came from.

>>2673668

>Are you actually suggesting that two plus two doesn't equal to four?

You really are a dumb fuck.


> I'm fine if you crawl back under the rock you came from.

I'm going to stay right here bitch boy, what are you going to do? cry? huh? huh? top kek

>>2673674
Gtfo shit Lord.

>>2675834
Goodjob replying back to him 24 hours later, you pussy ass bitch.

>>2675848
lol MOD tried to perma ban me, saying I requested child photos, dumb ass faggot mad because he got REKT.

Who do you think YOUR FUCKING WITH SON?
can change my IP all day every day!

>>2668120
>Yes it does, they ambush that guy outside his door and he turns into a fucking monster and shit.

No he doesn't actually turn into a monster, Rivera has a cybernetic implant that allows him to holographically project his imagination. There is absolutely no "magic" in Neuromancer, although there is a good deal of soft science fiction.

>>2675993
>There is absolutely no "magic" in Neuromancer

Except the part where he shoots fireballs out of his eyes in the freeport reggae center

>>2676003
You mean the part where he blinds the assassin in straylight? He just shot a high intensity projection. Intense light has the ability to blind someone, just like a high-powered laser pointer. It's not magic at all, just more soft sci-fi.

>>2676150
What about the time that he flys through cyberspace, are you tell me that's not magic my nigga?