/vr/ - Retro Games

>>2662476
The star wars videogames understood the universe better than george lucas himself ever did. The sounds that junkyard boss made, man, still gives me the chills.

Because you were like eight years old when you played it

Still, nothing in that game is as creepy as dianogas in Dark Forces

same reason a lot of n64 games are creepy: the low rez textures coupled with no sound chip and limited sounds just equaled creepy as fuck atmosphere

shadows of the empire was near the peak of 'adult' star wars expanded universe, it was dark, it was before they 'kiddied up' the whole franchise again for the prequels and everything since.

each level was like a whole different type of star wars game. the hoth and space levels are amazing

Because shadows are creepy duh

>OH FUCK ME FUCK FUCK OH FUCK

I finally beat this game recently after never being able to beat it as a kid (in part due to having a bootleg cart that didn't save)
The Black Sun gladiator in Xizor's Palace is one really annoying boss fight, and you're fucked if you didn't stock up missiles throughout the game up to that point.

The good thing is that the last mission is one of the best parts in the game, like a reward for enduring the tough on-foot levels that make the majority of the game.

I have never seen this done before, and I tried many times. But you know how the stormtroopers will make the wilhelm scream when falling off a cliff? we shot one of the brown wompas in the boba fett level (i think) and the wompa fell off the cliff but made a wompa-esque wilhelm scream while falling. We tried to replicate it many times but never could. anyone elese ever had this happen?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLLVwGgzFSs
>1996
This game was one of the most playable titles at the time.

I'm playing it right now (emulated). I remember that flying a speeder during the battle of Hoth was a fanboy wet dream. Now it's been done better in several games, and the rest of the game is kinda janky, but I still think it's pretty cool. Not nearly as cool as Dark Forces IMO, but it's different, so I wouldn't compare them too much.

I really like that the game gives you a recharging jetpack.

>>2662505
>WOMPA STOMPA

>>2662648
Wow, this game is a lot shorter than I remembered from watching other people play it back in the day. More linear, too. The plot's pretty flimsy with how it tries to shoehorn serious events with Luke and Leia in between Empire and Jedi, should have kept Dash off to the side doing his own thing and only occasionally crossing paths. Still like that jetpack though.

Kyle Katarn > Dash Rendar
non-Jedi Kyle Katarn > everything

>>2662489
This. Man 90's Star Wars games really were the shit.

>>2662863
The plot is based on the novel Shadows of the Empire, which as I understand features Luke and Leia pretty heavily. It also ties in with the comic of the same name.

>>2662603
I'm not sure if I've ever knocked a wompa off, but I remember when I was a kid using the gameshark to turn myself into the wompa and being able to play as it (though you can't get through much of the level as one, unfortunately). It would probably be an easy way to test it if you have a gameshark available/

>>2662476
That is my favorite stage of any game, all time.
But to answer your question:
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>>2662623
can't see shit captain

>>2663057
Really? A TRAIN stage is your favorite? I don't think it's a bad level but come on man.

wow i didn't know this game, ive been enjoying SW games since darkforces1

i found no info on engine

from wikipedia i see it came out alongside dark forces 1, but had been in development even before n64 prototype was made available to developers


>>2662648
THERE IS A PC VERSION
> December 1996 as an exclusive N64 title 4 months after the console's launch.[1] The PC version came nearly a year later in September 1997.


>The PC version has sharper and smoother gameplay graphics when using a 3D card.
>the PC version has full-motion cinematic cutscenes with sound effects and voices, while the N64 version utilizes artwork with text at the bottom of the screen.

The physics for Dash are kind of interesting. It's neat how if you look around, his head turns and his torso twists independently. Also, when you use the jetpack, he bobs around like he's danging from a string attached to his head, which isn't realistic but gives a nice floaty feeling.

>>2663447
>while the N64 version utilizes artwork with text at the bottom of the screen
Which was often better, compared to the horrible CG cutscenes of the PS1. Only few games look like Oddworld.

>>2663540
>Which was often better, compared to the horrible CG cutscenes of the PS1
You're kidding, right?

>>2663553
Not that anon, but he does kinda have a point. Most FMV CG cutscenes of that era were pretty shitty looking, with only a couple (the Oddworld games like he said or almost any Squaresoft game after FFVII for example) being the exceptions. Of course, this is all just opinion in the end though.

not any of the 3 previous anons,

but didnt DF1 + used actual live action filmed scnes?

anyone played SWSotE, i wonder what is meant by
>full-motion cinematic cutscenes

>>2664047
It's just ugly awkwardly voice acted 3D, you can find videos on youtube. Not a big loss, I actually like the N64 cutscenes better.

>>2663447
It's also really hard to run on modern 64-bit systems. I guess it's better to just run it on a VM.

>>2662489
>George Lucas
>anything but the last person to understand SW

>>2664070

I agree, the sprite-based cutscenes are still images with little animation but I still like them, they are more iconic, and they look like classic LucasArts pixel art. I appreciate them more too.

>>2664896
>tfw they should have made a movie in the 90s
>tfw kevin costner could have played dash

Fuck george puke-ass

>>2664070
>>2664896
You guys are hating on the PC cutscenes too much. They're certainly "of the era" but the graphics and voice acting are significantly above average for 1997.

What I think is superior about them is they show you more pre-mission and do a slightly better job tying the missions together. Like, you actually see the Outrider land inside the Hoth hangar, setting up the base you'll be inside in the next level, and you get a flyover of the train tracks and junkyard for the IG-88 level. You also get to hear how "Xizor" is supposed to be pronounced, heh.

I like the pixelated pictures too, though. I think Dark Forces did it the best with a mix of drawn characters, voice acting, and occasional animation, plus additional unvoiced text for the mission briefing.

>>2664896
Yeah those animated cutscenes look just like the comic art. It works with the game perfectly. Haven't seen the cgi cutscenes to compare to, but in all fairness most cgi cutscenes from back then have aged horribly (with the exception of some of the later ps1 games).

>>2665479
They're on youtube, skip to around the 1 minute mark.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erTqS_-Jljo

>>2665484
Also, the soundtrack in that video isn't from the game, the uploader probably downloaded a ripped torrent missing the cd audio.

>>2665484
That's pretty decent, but you can do far better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROPCD5Vm6b8&feature=youtu.be

>>2665537
Cool visuals, music sounds like megaman X5.

>>2662495
>dianogas in Dark Forces
ugh, didn't help that Dark Forces made me motion sick.

>>2662623
>giant dianoga
NOPE NOPE FUCK NO
and this is one of the reasons I've never been able to handle underwater levels in 3d games, low draw distance, and they always put the most nightmarish creatures in them