/vr/ - Retro Games

>>2616437

Croc 2's ridiculously better

Amazing game. Got it when I got my PSX when I was like 8 years old or some shit. Played it to death.

Argonaut also created the SuperFX chip for the SNES, and I'm pretty sure Nintendo fucked them over somehow after that if I remember right.

It's also similar to how Warcraft and Starcraft were originally Warhammer/40K games until Games Workshop pulled the plug.

>>2616442
In what exactly?

>>2616474
Everything

>>2616442
I actually preferred the tank controls of the original. After getting used to them in the first one, I could never not accidentally fall off platforms in the second game.

>>2616495
>Tank controls
>on a 3D platformer

>>2616442
>Croc 2's ridiculously better
Croc 2 is an overall awesome game. PC port is great - vastly superior to wobble-riffic PS1 version. I'd love to see a modern Croc game. Y'know, Croc climbing radio towers and stuff.

>>2617829
Jokes aside, why would a Ubisoft Open world game be the formula for a modern Croc?

>>2616437

Played it on the Saturn, it was great.

I remember there was a bug where if you played it with certain third party memory cartridges in your cartridge slot Croc's head would be invisible.

YAHOO

Never played the original but I know for a fact that Croc 2 is based as hell.

>>2616437
>Do you think this game would be remembered more fondly?

Nah it's just be Youtube reviewer bait forever known as "that shitty Yoshi game".


Ignoring that I actually liked the designs and music in Croc a lot. It's a shame the game came out before most people got the hang of 3D controls because I would have loved to see a great game with him.

>>2616437
Which Croc had the level with the giant snowball ride and the underground pirate ship?

Whichever one it was, I need to play it again

>>2620438
>Which Croc had the level with the giant snowball ride and the underground pirate ship?
Croc 2, I'm pretty sure. Fantastic music while you rode that snowball. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_thNzxyuFs&index=15&list=PLC1EAD156A442FCE0

>>2617902
>I remember there was a bug where if you played it with certain third party memory cartridges in your cartridge slot Croc's head would be invisible.

That happened without any cartridges, I think it was caused if you launched the Saturn with the cd tray open.

>>2616495
I cannot for the life of me see how anyone can play a game with that control scheme.

Maybe I'm just pleb, but I barely got past the first boss because the controls and camera were just that bad.

First Croc annihilates the fuck out of its sequel, which had worse level design and dumber gimmicks.

>>2620521
Nigga, in my day I played this on a pentium 1 with fucking mmx technology , on a god damn keyboard with my little brother, and we loved the shit out of it. So you either get gud or get the fuck out.

>Bro and I played the shit out of this game
>Would go out back, smoke up
>Hit up the 7-11
>Play the shit out of this and TJ&E
>Eventually got to master the odd controls
>Go for a 100% run
>Got near the end
>So did our friendship

>>2622974
Friendships based around drugs don't end well, Anon-kun.

>>2622980
Nah, it was a friendship since high school. Weed was just the recreational shit with did with vidya that's part of the nostalgia.

He got a girlfriend and became a dick about hanging out

>>2622980
But friendships based around drugs and video games can. Have a pal I met in high school in the late nineties and we spent a few summers getting drunk on cheap vodka and smoking shitty weed and playing marathon sessions of gaming on his brand new Dreamcast. He's still one of my best friends and to this day we meet up on occasion and hot-seat one-player games on his Trinitron.

>>2620494
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejk_Y-OBDfA best music

Croc 3 never, ever.

>>2616437
My childhood
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9t3kuWa6F68

also best song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wOoHrviszU

It's kinda funny how Argonauts got screwed over the years. Vortex was probably planed as Transformers game, but didn't get the license and now nobody remembers that game. Croc should've been Yoshi and with the help of Nintendo I'm sure it could've been a better game.
Overall, if you look them up on wikipedia, they have a pretty damn long list of unreleased titles, Croc 3 among them.

the controls are like that huh, I thought something was wrong with my emulator and even changed the controls manually

>>2623572
Is it me or are analog/Croc 2 controls an absolute pain in the ass next to rigid tank digital?

>>2623030
>>2620494
Fuck, even the mine cart in the vid brings back memories. Thanks anons

>>2622997
>>2622974
Ouch.

Who even owns the rights to Croc anymore? Not that a sequel will ever happen.

>>2625550
>Unfortunately though, Argonaut closed in 2004 which led to the Croc IP being sold to Zenimax Media Inc, who would have had Mad Duck Productions continue development on the game, but the game was cancelled after trouble with the developer, and so was the franchise’s foreseeable future for any other installments aside from three mobile phone games: Croc Mobile: Jungle Rumble, Croc Mobile: Volcanic Panic and Croc Mobile: Pinball (which they in themselves may be hard to find nowadays)

I'm amazed when people say they have trouble with 'tank controls'. They are far more accurate than 2D directions, which make no sense where a moving camera perspective is in use.

Also in Croc you have the shoulder buttons for left/right strafing. Simple.

>>2625706
>Zenimax Media Inc
>The owners of TES, Fallout and Doom own Croc.
What a fucking mind trip.

I nearly posted a huge angry rant about how shit this was, then I realised I was thinking of BUG. What a pile of shit that game was. All 90 degree turns, wtf, awful

>>2616437
I never played the second one but what kept me from getting far in the first one is the frustrating camera controls.

>>2625713
>accurate
They also happen to be slow to adjust.

Also what was the deal with the analog controls? So weird, half tank, half normal.

>>2625756
>They also happen to be slow to adjust.
That would be an issue in shmups, for example, but Croc is hardly the fastest paced game in the world. I suppose it's just one of those weird preferences where neither side can understand the other - like inverted up/down.

>>2625706
Jesus. Talk about a doomed franchise.

>>2616437
>tfw my parents wouldn't buy me consoles
>this was the only 3d platformed I had while everyone else played mario
>tfw this game was my childhood
>people saying it's shitty in this thread

>>2617829
>tfw they axed the Dreamcast version
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>>2628001
JUST

Games that were almost going to be made by Nintendo general?

>The game was presented to Nintendo for publication, and Shigeru Miyamoto expressed strong interest in working on the game. However, Nintendo ultimately decided against publishing Plok. Ste Pickford remarked, "I suspect Yoshi's Island was in development at the time, and perhaps Mr. Miyamoto decided Plok was too similar for it to be worth working on both

It was 6/10.

>>2628145
>It was 6/10
Minor adjustments would have made it much better.

>>2628001
Due to stupid childhood console allegiances, I wouldn't touch a Nintendo product out of choice, so I ended up playing Croc instead too. It's a great game - don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

I never played Croc 1 but Croc 2 is fucking amazing. Why is the original mediocre? The second is amazing.

>>2628692
>I never played Croc 1
>why is the original mediocre?