/vr/ - Retro Games

It is invoking nightmares about constantly hitting start to switch to feather, power bracelet, and Pegasus boots so you can traverse the land.

Not to mention accidentally touching a rock without having the bracelet equipped.

Other than that, love the game and map design. Lots of holes when you look at it though.

>>2593121

Fuck off already, no one cares how autistic you are. Stop posting this shit in every thread you fucking doublenigger.

>>2593080
This game had the actually hard water temple. I couldn't figure it out without a guide so I stopped playing. I might go back and try again because the game was so fun.

>>2594596
Every thread? Wtf are you talking about? I barely post at all here.

Aren't you the one being autistic by a spazzing out over someone stating minor irritants about the game?

Christ, I love the game too but that doesn't mean this thread has to be,a one sided slobberfest.

I always liked seasons and ages more than links awakening.

>>2594867
You can't have a dissenting opinion on /vr!!!
But yeah, I agree. The constant switching really brought down an otherwise good game.
Also, it wasn't just rocks that gave that message, wasn't it pots too?

>>2594931
I was going to ask if these games are good, already beat LA

>>2595753
Of course.

There seems to be a somewhat small majority who'll vie for Season, but personally I've always preferred Ages.

>>2595758
Which one should be played first?

>>2594931
That's because you're a bad

>>2594596
What the actual fuck? He brought up legit complaints from the game. Its tedious, but as he said, its still a great game and doesn't ruin the experience at all. What a weird response to good post...

>>2594747
If you want a seriously difficult water temple, give Ages a try as well.

>>2594596

I think calling the guy autistic in this case is a bit rich. Also, he's right. I legitimately got bored of the game due to the switching and shit. There were a lot of niggling bad design choices in that game that, if someone had just thought about it, shouldn't have existed and would have made for a much better game.

>>2595763
Not that anon but I decided to play the gb loz back to back a year or 2 ago and just couldn't get into seasons after ages. I went straight to LA after a small session. Maybe after the time I should try again too bad I can't remember my password.

>>2595763
I would recommend doing Seasons first, especially if you're intending to complete the second as a linked game. Because of the bonuses you get during a linked game, it trivializes the combat to a degree. As Ages is more focused on puzzles than combat, you lose less if it's done as the second part of a linked game.

That being said, as far as story goes they can be completed in either order.

>>2595763
Ages is the harder game, but doing Seasons after Ages means you'll have a very advantageous item for the final bosses.

Other than that kind of thing, though, it hardly matters what order they're played in. The game you play second will have some throwbacks and secrets that wouldn't normally be there if you played it first, and there's some legitimately broken stuff you can get if you make use of the games' password systems.

>>2595763
>Which one should be played first?

Both.

Play Seasons, then Ages. Play Ages, then Seasons. Do unlinked and linked games of both.

>>2594931
Seasons is almost as good as LA - and that's largely because I'm a sucker for the story. Season's bosses are unarguably superior, and it's just generally great fun.

Ages... Eh. Not a fan.

>>2593080
I agree.

>>2594747
I beat LA without any guide or help whatsoever on my Gameboy OG when I was 7. Just sayin'.

>>2595884

What would've been a good alternative setup? There are only two buttons available for environment interactions.

OOT-style auto-jumping would be a viable option for top-down maps but would be weird in the sidescroller sections.

Perma-mapping a basic function such as grab/lift to one of the buttons would deprive you of 50% of your button retail space, so that's out. Grab/lift wouldn't work either as a context-dependent perma-mapping (i.e., which overrides the item selected to a certain button when that button is pressed with Link facing a grabbable/liftable surface/object), since a player may want to set a bomb against a grabbable object rather than grab it. Or test a surface for grabbability but wind up dropping a bomb instead.

>>2597274
Ages is a little bit tedious at times, but really great. I always like the depressing atmosphere in the past. It really motivated me to get things right. And it has more puzzles and one optional item. Seasons doesn't have an optional item. Optional items are cool.

>>2593080

>>2597814
I know there's gotta be something simple I was overlooking, but I was quite bored trying everything on everything. I must not have really covered "Everything".

I feel like if Link's Awakening was remade I'd like it, but as it stands now the game aged like shit and I can't stand it.

>>2599959
I wish that was real

The only thing I dislike is how space that lame raft minigame took up

>>2593080
It's a tiny map. You're wrong.

So fucking amazing, I re-worked into the setting of the fantasy novel I'm working on.

>>2593080
Um...no.

>>2600343
>but as it stands now the game aged like shit
I don't think you know what aging like shit means. It's still very playable.

>>2600909
Damn, I really need to play this game.

>>2600343
Why are you on this board?

Hmm...maybe this will help?
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>>2601752
No one can triforce now... ;_;

>>2600343
>aged like shit

You say that like shit doesn't potentially petrify and last for millions of years.

>>2600909
nah. Just from visual inspection OP's image has so much more character and alluring mystery than that tbh

>>2599959
Awful.

>>2593080
That's a nice one, but for me it doesn't come even close to this.

>>2603909
I'll raise you this.

>>2593121

heh , agreed, but link's awakening is still my favorite 2D zelda overall.

i love the aesthetic of ALttP, but the dungeons in link's awakening were just so much better.

>>2603950
fuck, i've always thought this was one of the best maps out there, along with MM4 and MM5

>>2604158
the only thing that bothers me about it is that it isn't continuous, and they had that weird 5 apples/day mechanic for travelling between adjacent squares.

Done. No other map can compare to the amount of effort and love they put into Castlevania 1

>Everything fits together seamlessly
>No floating blocks, everything is attached to the world
>can see the keep as you cross the bridge

>>2595884
>There were a lot of niggling bad design choices in that game that, if someone had just thought about it, shouldn't have existed and would have made for a much better game.

Examples?

>>2597987
preset slots might work
Hold select, and press up, down, left or right to select item pairs that you set up in the menu.
Change viewing the map to selectable in the start menu.

>>2605981
>select item pairs that you set up in the menu
That's too convoluted. Why not just use that setup to scroll through the inventory?

>>2604580
>Everything fits together seamlessly
>No floating blocks, everything is attached to the world
>No other map can compare to the amount of effort and love they put into Castlevania 1

Well, dark souls did this...

>>2606009
isn't the dork souls map full of overlap and disproportionate indoor rooms?

>>2606014
The second one is a mess, but DS1 I think is fairly seemless. There might be one or two areas with minor overlap, but given the size of the map it's quite impressive.

>>2600909
my nigga

But here's a better map because yours was scanned from the manual which is probably why it looks so dark

>>2595229
There should be a romhack to make it just one text box like in the Japanese version. To hell with it being not descriptive or accurate enough.

>>2599959
Where's the color and texture variety?

>>2606004
Something like hold select, a cursor appears over A or B slot, and you use up/down to switch the item in the slot and left/right to switch slot being changed?

Back in the day they probably also did it both to stay consistent with series tradition and to give players a break where they could stop and think about what items they need to use (Zelda was aimed at children after all).

>>2593080
I played this for the very first time last year, and whilst it was a fun good game, it didnt live up to my expectations. Obviously would've been much better had i played it at the time.

Anyway, more on topic. I've been searching for one of my most fondest maps but google's letting me down. Its the world map to monkey hero on the ps1.

Also castlevania SOTN obviously.

>>2606019
Yeah, DS2 is fucked. You can see that at the... I forget it's name but the place with the armored giants and Old Dragonslayer. DS1 seems to be seamless for the most part.