/vr/ - Retro Games

===NEWS===

[08-01] Summer Games Done Quick: the videos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90A3WdbKP2c Unreal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JYyqUU3Hq0 Scythe.wad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yN2JzwBmS8A Spear of Destiny
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xpJoI42tsQ Super Noah's Ark 3D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSc1U-ii1Qk Doom 64

[08-01] Anon map release: DIKZAK v1.2 demo (a jokewad)
https://archive.moe/vr/post/2580753
http://www.mediafire.com/download/dldizo52c4mrcv2/DIKZAK_Demo_version.7z

[07-30] Anon map release: jukejoint.wad (for gzdoom, cc4-tex + colored lighting)
https://archive.moe/vr/post/2576254
https://mega.co.nz/#!g1wCwSwY!2IX40LCaSHap4ykfmHdsrXFN31_m48GqOcZJaB8DJqc

[07-29] Quakecon matches are being uploaded
https://www.youtube.com/user/QuakeCon2011

[07-25] Adventures of Square v1.2 is out
http://adventuresofsquare.com/downloads.php

[07-25] Doomworld forced into early move by DNS issues, but was successful.
http://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1400546

[07-24] Arstechnica article on the new Doom
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2015/07/hands-on-with-the-new-doom-the-detail-of-doom-3-the-speed-of-doom-2/

[07-24] Andrew Hulshult is teasing a remix for Rise of the Triad
https://youtu.be/4R_SuQX1iS0

[07-24] Doom 4 stuff from QuakeCon: new screenshots, multiplayer, weapons
http://www.gamesradar.com/doom-multiplayer-info-hands-on/
http://www.dsogaming.com/screenshot-news/doom-new-quakecon-2015-screenshots-released/
http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/07/23/quakecon-2015-first-hands-on-with-doom-multiplayer
http://www.pcgamer.com/hands-on-dooms-coolest-new-gun-is-powered-by-sprinting/

[07-23] Another Doom High Resolution Texture Pack release
http://dengine.net/forums/viewtopic.php?p=13849#p13849

[07-23] /vr/doom booru
http://vrdoom.booru.org/

[07-23] Zandronum 2.1.2
http://zandronum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=6205

[07-23] Crispy Doom v3.0
http://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1396774

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Please reply to this post with news.

does /vr/doom think doom 4 will be good?

>>2581707
Yes.

>>2581707
/vr/doom is not a hivemind. We have people that think yes, we have people that think no, we have people that want to wait until it comes out to see.

>>2581707
Do we have to do this debate all over again

let's keep to revenantposting, arguing about filters, teaching doombuilder basics and gushing over GMOTA/DS like usual

>>2581707
if rage was good, why wouldn't that be?

>>2581707
It will be just OK. Is it the new Doom that we have been waiting for? No, not really. Does it look more appealing than most FPS games released in the past couple of years. I think so. I don't really plan on buying it, but probably will anyway.

Almost finished with a 800*600 res version of the hud for all the poverty-stricken peasants out there.

This is getting exciting since the only things left to do before the beta release is a dialogue system, more comments in the code, and restructuring the pk3 a bit.

>>2581736

Can't wait to see it. This is going to be cool.

>>2581707
It looks a bit generic to me, but as long as there are plans for proper mod tools and mod support, I'm down with it.

>>2581672
>I need to finish up monsters, implement Blaz's voice.
I thought you weren't going to put any talking because of that one time you tried putting in one liners, but I see what you're saying about finishing the other monsters. I'm looking forward to seeing the edits, but they still seem to fit in with the other monsters combat wise.

>And I feel like the mod is still pretty unbalanced because of some of the subweapons.
Yeah, this is true. I don't know which is which, but POW Dagger seems to completely dominate everything else as long as you're near the target. Once you get indoors it just crushes everything. Also, the missle subshot seems better than everything else since it drenches the battlefield with balls and damage. I remember when I used earthshaker all the time; not anymore.

>And finally I feel Blaz is a mess due to how convoluted his weapons are, like most people aren't aware that you can throw the sword, the life drain effects, etc.
Like another anon said, if you had a more information "How to Play" screen(s) then that'd help clear up a lot of confusion. For example: I thought you had removed the life-steal function because it didn't seem to be functioning, but that might be because I was too busy playing instead. Also, I didn't fully understand the rings/necklaces and their function besides powering up things.

>I could just be too hard on myself though
Probably. Blaz is fun as shit to play as, and his whole kit is fun to use; it just needs some clarification.

I fucking love GMOTA as it is now, and I can totally understand wanting to fix some item/weapon balance; however, you saying you want to "rehaul Blaz" reminds me of how you'd start changing things that didn't needed to be changed. I'm curious as to why and how you'd do the overhaul.

Just dl'd blade of agony to see what the fuzz is about

Holy shit I'm fucking floored, the quality is absolutely crazy so far

>>2581712
and people who don't care at all and are sick of hearing about it.

>>2581798
Agreed, shame the game becomes next to unplayable after the second mission (not sure if unfinished or just ZDoom acting screwy)

>>2581707
I'd say that we all just shut up about it for a while and wait and see how it plays out when it's released.

>>2581737
I'm starting to feel hope I'll actually have the time and motivation to make a game with it. Man, it'll be great mapping some again.

>>2581798

That's Tormentor for you.
A sperg when it comes to dealing with people, brute forces his way through contributions, relies far more on pretty effects than good gameplay, but the production values are almost always through the roof.

>>2581913
oh it's one of his? that explains why it keeps getting hyped here every 1-2 threads

>>2581798
I liked it, but the level design could use some work. It's not always clear where to go. I got stuck on the first level because I didn't figure out to shoot the fire extinguisher which led to 10 minutes of walking around confused.

>>2581917
>>2581913

Oh yeah, another sign of Tormentor's works:
Hype hype hype hype, constant hype posting.

I've been trying to ignore his posting and his threads because I want to give it a fair shake when it's finally released, and his incessant hyping is just going to mess that up, be it souring it or sweetening it.

>>2581758

Well by voice I'm talking like. Grunts and yells. Marty recorded a bunch of those and I'd like to use them. And honestly I say I'd LIKE to tweak Blaz, I'm not gonna because I'm pretty sure that'd get a lynch mob after my ass. I'm just hard on myself and I want strive for perfection like a jackass.

Honestly Blaz is done mechanically, I just want those grunts and HIYAS in, finish up the monsters, and then start on kustam

Question: Are there any Japanese influenced mods out there besides Demonsteele?

>>2581976

Yes.
WildWeasel made The Stranger, which is a super early gameplay mod and it shows, but even despite its age it's still pretty fun.
Otacon once made a mapset where you play as Priss and shoot possessed otaku. It's kind of dumb. Cool sprites, though.
Black Warrior is difficult as shit to acquire and unfinished as can be, but offers a very unique and different style of gameplay.
Swan Fox...well, everyone knows about Swan Fox. It's easily one of the most fun experiences I've had, but not a single one of it was intentional--mechanically, it's a total wreck.
Doom Radys Classes might be cheating a little bit since I think it was made by someone Japanese? But still, it's got a whole ton of anime and VN grills fighting demons.
And then there's HDoom, which is "japanese influenced" by virtue of "lewd anime demons" but that's about it.

Honestly, I'd love to have some kind of giant mecha/SHOGO style mod.

>>2581976
There is TheCraftyTitan's Doom Hack.

>>2581993
>yfw seeing Dark Inquisitor for the first time

playing doom 2 for the first time

I´m now level 30 and HOLY FUCK
how do I NOT die in that level?

>>2582021

To kill the Icon of Sin, shoot its head until it dies.

>>2582021
Get the megaspheres on the sides when you're low. Kill archviles ASAP.

>>2582021
git gud :^)

Hideous Destructor makes me cry inside

>>2582021
Be like Jeff.

He's looking at an old unruly evil, him and everyone he cares about is in peril and he has to succeed, his friends are in danger, if he doesn't they're all done for, he doesn't know exactly what he's looking at, he is crying uncontrollably, this event might scar him for life, but he just continues to load and fire his rocket launcher at the evil before him.

So I joined a server, and upon finally spawning, the map had trillions of enemies. I died almost instantly, and I looked at the map to see that everybody else had immediately fucked right off, at least 10 yards away from the spawn in mere seconds.
I know I'm going to get a ton of shit for this, but I'm just curious to know what the fuck happened there.

>>2582073
>I know I'm going to get a ton of shit for this
Why? It was probably a 'slaughterwad' you played, and they pretty much work like that.

The reason the other players got so far is because they'd played the map before and knew to strafe-run to cover ASAP most likely.

>>2582087
Oh, I thought I'd be burned at the stake for not knowing something, like a lot of other communities I've talked with.

I was just confused, and a bit pissed off since one of those guys said "that really weeded out the weak" as soon as I died. Now I don't know what else to expect among the other servers.

>>2582093
>>2582073

If you're not very familiar with the game, don't join slaughtermap servers. Anything with Chillax, 12-in-1, slaughterfest 2013, or etc, avoid like the plague.
Some people take strange amounts of pride at being able to click keys slightly better than other people in a 21-year-old game.

>>2582093
lol look at this weak lil nerd, gimmie ur milk money befor i gives you a swirly

>>2582093
>Oh, I thought I'd be burned at the stake for not knowing something, like a lot of other communities I've talked with.
This isn't the dota or lol community anon.

>Now I don't know what else to expect among the other servers.
I never play online so I can't give you an answer on that, but you could always ask someone here to host - or do it yourself. /vr/ does get to together and play occasionally.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgUB8aH9eZI&feature=youtu.be&t=11m5s

>No additional pc mod tools beyond SnapMap

>>2581993
I've kind of been wondering if something relatively close to Titanfall would be possible or Mechwarrior for that matter

>>2582136
>mechwarrior
Yeah, absolutely possible. It's just a lot of work.

Personally I'd much prefer a take on Terra Nova: Strike Force Centauri. It's an ancient tactical mecha game that was way before it's time in some aspects, and way too late in others.

If DIZAK guy is still here I just wanna say the ammo pickups in map 6 was improved greatly however the only thing I'd recommend changing is getting rid of the two ammo boxes at the plasma rifle secret. Not that it makes the map easier but it just seems kinda redundant when a shitload of enemies in that area are already dropping plasma ammo after you kill them.

>>2582131
Alright, that actually does bother me.

>CC map 15
>11 secrets
>only manage to find the first one near the beginning, and another one halfway through
>die about 30 times throughout the entire fucking map because I'm fucking sucking ass for some reason and literally everything killed me almost once by now
>finally reach the exit switch
>still 9 secrets to go
>search the most obvious spots, namely the ones with a blood splat next to them, walls with different textures
>no dice
>there's a fucking room filled with health bonuses and I can't even get in
>still 100 enemies left

I'm literally at the 15th god damn level and my autism is being tickled this fucking hard already

>>2581757
>>2582131
I really hope that there will be tools to modify game mechanics. Even if it will just be PC exclusive.

>>2582202
>>2582131
I'm fairly certain the'll release the same but adapted sdk they released with rage for it,

>>2582131
>Only used to build corridors
>No open areas
>No outdoor areas

>>2582202
They already confirmed there is NO proper modding tools.

Only snapmap.

>>2582229

And in another interview they confirmed there will be an SDK release.
So what the fuck is going on? Is there some kind of internal strife?

>>2582242
>Is there some kind of internal strife?
More likely incompetence and poor information within the company.

I'm pretty sure there'll be an SDK, perhaps they meant snapmap is the only thing that'll ship with the game from the beginning?

>>2582229
>>2582242
They said something about advanced mod tools for PC at the quakecon panel.

>>2582141
>Terra Nova

Oh shit, I remember that game. Would love a Doom mod on that, or a modern remake of it.

Help quell my autism, guys:

Should I put ZDoom and other source ports in my "Games" folder or my "Emulation" folder?

>>2582270

Games

ZDoom is not an emulator, it's a source-port

>>2582261
>Would love a Doom mod on that, or a modern remake of it.
I'm considering it as my next future side project since my main thing has reached the halfway point at least. Won't be a remake of anything, but some kind of mix between terra nova and system shock gameplay-wise, maybe with light 'rpg elements'.

>>2582270

That's easy in my case because I don't have a separate folder for emulators. Game installation directories and emulators sit side by side in my Games folder, but I access them via a folder full of shortcuts.

>>2582285
You probably will have to make custom sprites though, since to my knowledge you never had a visible weapon, just a small picture on your hud. Although it might save time since they're all wrist mounted weapons it seems.

>>2582327
I would make all the graphics from scratch if iI decide to do it, maybe consider 3d models even.

I created a short survey regarding Doom because I was curious to see the statistics of how /vr/ plays Doom.

If you want to take it, here it is: http://surveynuts.com/surveys/take?id=35393&c=302397809HJLV

>>2582401
Why do you wanna know my hardware?

>>2582412
I was curious about how GZDoom could be modified to increase framerates for some players.

For example, a recent change to the source code in Git was to cast certain values as doubles instead of floats. That's a good thing for modern CPUs that perform double-precision floating point arithmetic natively, but can slow things down for older CPUs.

Also, current GZDoom requires a much higher GL version due to its increasing use of shaders, with a minute if any change in graphical detail, and also causes problems for users of certain videocards.

>>2582414
Are you a GLOOME developer perchance?

>>2582417
I've helped marrub a couple times through posts here, but I haven't made any commits. Been thinking about getting more involved; definitely interested in the project. But I have work and IRL stuff to do, too.

>>2582136
there was one with power armor that you could eject from and detonate? anyone remember the name of it?

>>2581798

But is it actually fun?

>>2582196
This is why I disable monster/secret totals from being shown during the level. No longer feel like I have to search for shit for the sake of 100%, and when I do manage to get 100%, it feels pretty good.

>play unholy realms on UV first time
>reach map07
>save in the middle of a monster ambush right before the end
>end level
>map09 et al easy as shit
>reach map11
>god damn it, I'm actually having fun
>cacodemon spam
>revenant closet
>topkek, step it up cunt
>red keycard ambush
>6 hell knights, mancubi surrounding
>briefly get them to infight
>"holy shit I can't really recall the last time I died"
>one of them teleports right behind me
>get one-shot blankpoint by a fucking fat cunt
>all the way back to map07's ending

why is it that I either get my shit slapped almost inmediately every time I quicksave every 20 seconds whenever I play a new megawad and get mad at the game, ragequit and have zero fun, and also die everytime I spend too long without saving anyways either because I'm having too much fun and the game forces me to either lose all my guns or take me back to my last goddamn birthday

this fucking game sometimes

>>2582562
either enable autosaves or just pistol start the level

I have no idea what I'm doing with outdoor areas.

Lack of Doom 4's PC SDK killed all hype for me. I'll pick it up out of loyalty, but I want SW2 Coop more now.

Drawing Doomguy's helmet is a lot harder than it looks. It's quite easy to screw up the detailing/dimensions.

I can see why the design got "streamlined" or whatever for Quake 3.

>>2582605
A lot of that shit seems unnecessary from a practical standpoint anyway. Helmets shouldn't have lots of flat angular surfaces and little nooks and shit.

having trouble finding weapon retexture packs for ultimate doom. I just want something to spice up whats in the middle of my screen during vanilla runs without altering the gameplay. any ideas?

nothing limit removing or boom only because I'm using chocolate

>>2582627
You ever tried Smooth Doom? Adds a lot more frames to the animations and you can swap the weapon textures for Doom 64 ones.

>>2582645
Oh wait I'm retarded and didn't read the rest of your post before replying.

>>2582605
I kinda like the Q3 design better to be honest
>>2582627
looking for mods while using a sourceport that's designed for a true to vanilla gameplay is kind of misguided don't you think

>>2582605
>>2581687
Speaking of which:

Yahtzee judges Doom by the cover:

escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/judging-by-the-cover/10295-Doom-Cover-Box-Art-Review

>>2582669

A sprite/texture pack is also considered a mod, anon. It modifies the graphics.

Dime just called Scythe a mod for Doom in the SGDQ stream too.

Is there any wad that turns doom gameplay more close to the build engine one, more specifically Duke Nukem? Adding stuff like items which really improve the gameplay, having to crouch/jump to carry on in a map.

>>2582687
>A sprite/texture pack is also considered a mod, anon. It modifies the graphics.
that's my point
he wants a mod while using chocolate doom
that's silly

>>2582693

how is it silly?

>>2582693
>he wants a mod while using chocolate doom

So? Now you're telling me the only kind of mods that should be referred as so are ZDoom gameplay mods?

>>2582678
I was hoping for a more serious analysis :3

>>2581686
the baron on the left looks like a shitty fnaf fan drawing

the shotgunner in the middle looks like lex luthor

Some OC I made

>>2582739
>no bubblegum
>no problem!

Hey /vr/, I recently abandoned a project (you can probably draw some conclusions if you recognize the HUD) and now I'm remaking it into something new. What do you think about my art style here?

>>2582739
"Looks like its time for me to go postal!"
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1XAB0zWFyJo

>>2582765

Looks pretty stylish. I can dig it.

>>2582669
>I kinda like the Q3 design better to be honest

Well, its helmet is closer to the sprite.

>>2582693
>he wants a mod while using chocolate doom
And contrary to what you believe, mods that work with vanilla/chocolate do exist. Remember Instadoom?

>>2582687
>Dime just called Scythe a mod for Doom in the SGDQ stream too.
i imagine he made the simplification knowing doomers were only a subset of the audience.

>>2582562
heh i think it was this kind of thing that weaned me off using savegames. forgetting to save is so annoying.

I wonder what will be done after FDTWID and UDTWID eventually get finished?

Memento Mori the way TiC did?

>>2582801
We go on to UDINO and FDINO

>>2582801
i'm hoping for No Rest For The Living. i love the design of it and would really like more in the same style.

perhaps some of the other commercial pwads, like Perdition's Gate.

>>2582804
I'm a Double Nazi! BRILLIANT!

>>2582803
Meh. While I do like some levels in D2INO (especially Xaser's wolfenstein), it was just new levels that are based on the level titles. Doesn't really feel like a tribute to the old school days.

>>2582806
Also, IIRC, INO's team was a mixture of veteran and newbie mappers, which resulted in an uneven mapset overall.

>>2582808
and it was rushed out without proper testing to meet an arbitrary deadline ("666 days in development!!")

>>2582131
>11:52
Modding and mapping doom has pretty much always been the most accessible foray into development in computer gaming. These numbskulls must be intimidated by it being old or something?

FFS this is the reason why I love Doom so much, its pretty much one of the only games ever that actually streamlines in all the right ways, but that's going to just be ruined now.

>>2582806
>(especially Xaser's wolfenstein)
reminder nobody else had the privilege of using custom textures and sprites. if he'd had to follow the rules and use only stock resources like everybody else things might have been very different. as it is, he basically got to cheat, and then get fellated by the community for it. i don't see how this is very fair.

>>2582815
>he basically got to cheat
Is it really cheating if everyone agreed on it and let him? It's not like he's not a skilled mapper who's unable to do something good without custom shit.

I mean, hell, they're not even "custom". They're still unbelievably limited--if anything, even more limited.

>>2582815
Its a bit odd they would even enforce a rule like that. I would've thought because it was "in name only", that custom textures would have been free game.

>>2581687
>Doomworld forced into early move by DNS issues, but was successful.

The server move was because their host AtomicGamer was shutting down.

>>2582856

and those DNS issues forced said move earlier.

>>2582862
The DNS issues were because some people were still loading the old server. They already moved by that point.

>>2582765

looks like GTA vice city
very nice

>>2582765
>>2582879
This, please don't ever abandon it again. I'm a sucker for those chilly colors.

>>2582152
Thanks. I removed them right away. The whole mod is one big learning process for me, so It's nice having people help me out and point out stuff like that.

>>2582450
That was Necrodoom. Filename xa-necro.pk3. It's loads of fun on larger maps, but smaller maps will feel incredibely claustrophobic in my opinion.

Still, a great mod

Music in Chocolate Doom is too loud, and whenever i turn it down, it resets to being loud when the midi loops, or a new midi plays.

Any way to fix this?

>>2582765
That image reminds me of the fact that I've always wished for a game that was basically GTA meets Fallout NV.

>>2582913
I think I remember having that too, and it went away when I updated. What version do you have? The current ver is 2.2.0, which iirc fixed that bug. There's also an SDL 2.0 ver in the works on their Development page you can try.

You can also get daily builds here to see if it's fixed: http://latest.chocolate-doom.org/

>>2582938
No matter what version I have it still happens.

I have to use OPL emultation in order to not have this problem. But OPL sounds like farts.

>>2582951
Native MIDI and GUS emulation both do it? You're not usnig an external softsynth? Note that "GUS emulation" is more or less just Timidity. It'll sound the same as the usual windows synth if the gus patch field is left blank. I'd read that it has to do with an old sdl_mixer bug.

I should ask if you're on something other than Win7 though. Seems to work here with W7 x64.

>>2582964
I use win7 64-bit. And yes, it does this with both native midi and gus emulation.

What do you mean by external softsynth?

>>2582981
Some people use virtual midi device programs like VirtualMIDIsynth or BASSMIDI System Driver for richer midi playback, couldn't rule it out.

As for your problem, I don't know. I'm sure you'd get better help if you posted your issue on chocolate-doom's Github tracker.

No games make me feel like a macho badass like doom, duke or wolfenstein anymore.

Seriously i'm so tired of being a random grunt fag who is really out of shape and can only sprint 5 fucking feet.

Duke nukem forever was one of my last hopes, maybe doom 4 will live up but i reserve my judgement.

I also find it funny how everyone was using DNF as an example
>Lol macho badasses don't belong in modern day media EDGY TORTURED HEROES ARE WHERE IT'S AT
i'm not even kidding people legitimately said it just google a bit and i'm sure you'll find some results.

All in all I miss the old days, fuck this new shit.
I want to be the hero, not the zero.

>>2582995
I blame the focus on plot modern videos games have adopted for that. You feel like a bad ass in Doom because everything is short and to the point. Perfect example is the ending to episode 2. That's gotta be the most macho response to discover you've been floating over hell I've ever seen.

>>2582995
blame the casual modern military kiddies

Reminder that RetroJam3DLC got released and that since Quaddicted is kill (for now) you have to manually install it.

http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61216

>>2582997
>Modern day FPS protagonist's reaction to On the shores of hell's ending
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydxIeO-2C2M

>>2582794
Well, a wad is a mod.

>>2581686
what´s the most controversiom wad you´ve played?

mine is columbine

>>2582995
What about Shadow Warrior reboot? It's also getting a sequel next year so at least the reboot was successful in the market.

Hmm, it seems Crispy Doom 3.0 with capped framerate runs slower than 2.3 which only has capped framerate.

E3M3 is a bit tricky and I barely had any ammo for most of the level tbh, was fun.

>>2583063
What's Wrack like?

>>2583104
Sorry, haven't played it.
I could try pirate-testing it, if you want me to

>>2581707
SNAPMAP
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>>2582210
How is the rage sdk? I haven't heard of any rage mods but then again I never go looking.

>>2581707
At best, I think it'll be decent, but nothing great.

>>2583104
Wrack was short, boring, and lacked style.

>>2583109
Sure m8

>>2583119
Dead in the bucket.
There have been comments about the SnapMap having more gameplay customizability than what was shown at E3. At a recent interview the devs were asked if Doom 4 could be made in SnapMap. They revealed that gameplay-location-wise it could be and that devs internally use the tool to block out the levels before adding detail.
Add to that additional developer toolset and the game might actually have the right combination to support initial creation of the mod community and longterm dedicated modders.
The devs also said the maps made through the SnapMap will be exchangeable through all platforms and that BethesdaNet will act as a hosting hub.

Key question is if Zenimax/Bethesda wants to monetize this.

>>2583141
Of course they do, they tried to monetize skyrim mods remember? Paying for lego block levels would be a terrible idea though so this hopefully means you can create entirely new assets.

>>2583104
Level design is decent, but everything else isn't that great.

Bobby Prince's OST for it seems like it could sound great, but the choice of synthesised instruments used by the game does not work.

>>2583145
Remember that Valve initiated and approved the damn thing. They wanted to roll that shit out to lots of other games.

>>2582997
What the fuck is with that background? It's difficult to read the text with that fucking background like an imported Arabic rug.

>>2583195
Are you some kind of a casual?

>>2583153
>>2583131
Not even half an hour in and it's already become a meme game.

About Bobby's work. I listened previously to the soundtrack on Youtube and didn't think it was good. But playing the game now in the cartoony style that it is the soundtrack works quite well. I'm pleasantly surprised.

>>2583210
No, I personally find it difficult to read text on certain kinds of backgrounds, that's all.

>>2583218
>Diversity is one of our strengths.

>>2583195
>>2583219

I do have to admit that I dislike that most modern ports neglect to scale the background in the story intermission screens.

I just played return of the triad

shit is fun as fuck
short, sure, but really neat if you like the rise of the triad

>>2582997
>>2583228
pic related from Eternity

>>2583237
Where can i download blade of agony mod? Every download link gives me a 404 page, fuck this is frustrating.

ded

>>2583321

you momma's dead. i prefer this calm over quakecon/be3 season any day

>>2583323
My mum is quite alive m8

>>2583321
have you beaten all of plutonia from pistol starts on UV yet? get practising

>>2583327
or even just all of Doom, and Doom2

>>2583327
>>2583328
Meh, I just want to run and gun. The only genre I take seriously are shmups for score attacks.

>>2583327
>>2583328
What has that got to do with the thread being ded?

>>2583332
just a suggestion to improve, you don't have to get the best time ever
>>2583345
just a suggestion for something to do

>>2583218
I still think if the soundtrack used a better instrument set with more oomph to it, it would sound a lot better.

>>2583006
hope customgamer does his thing
as in the make chill videos about it thing
not the miss every obvious secret thing

>>2583141
>The devs also said the maps made through the SnapMap will be exchangeable through all platforms and that BethesdaNet will act as a hosting hub.
The problem is that this means level creation is gimped on PC since the levels need to be able to run on consoles too
Hence the Graphics meter that limits how much shit you can put on the level

>>2583453
I guess it's only a reminder of how many items can be placed before the map will be unavailable for console players. I suppose it could be a hard set limit on consoles but not really a limited on PC.

>>2583470
They've said you won't be able to recreate open levels like the first level shown on the E3 demo on snapmap

>>2583218
>and it's already become a meme game.

What? How is this a meme?

>>2583483
By open they mean the visual openness, i.e. exterior scenes or in the demo that was shown the lava stream below the level you're at. Basically all that you see in front in the picture is for obvious reasons impossible to make in SnapMap. Primarily because SnapMap is gameplay oriented and those visuals, those surfaces are not part of the gameplay but of eye candy.

There might be a block type with the cieling open to reveal the sky but nothing more to somehow elevate the experience.
I don't think this is an issue with classic doom modding.

>>2583345
>What has that got to do with the thread being ded?
>thread being dead
>last post was only an hour ago

Where the fuck are you from that this is considered dead?

>>2583498
>Diversity is our strength

It's such a common statement in support of multicultarism that it has become a meme. I don't even know if the devs are serious.

Btw dropped Wrack after several tries at the first big Robot encounter in a closed room. Got frustrated over his hardly obvious attack patterns or when the damage is done or not.
Otherwise the enemies are sluggish and predictable. It's not satisfying fighting them.

>>2583006
Daz's recent mapping streams and his playthrough of RetroJam3DLC really make me want to start Quake mapping.

Hope Jackhammer isn't too hard to pick up.

Can you jump in the original Hexen?
I got a little stuck cause I cant seem to go up the these stairs that seems like I'd just walk up, but apparently the ledge is just a little too high.

I even found a Let's Player jumping up it but I'm pretty sure you're not supposed to jump in Doom engine.

https://youtu.be/XP61_fme7lg?t=638

>>2583518
You can jump in Hexen and Strife.

>>2583519
Oops, forgot to wipe name field.

>>2583519
Well son of a bitch. I'm surprised I even made it there without jumping then.

>>2583509
>It's such a common statement in support of multicultarism that it has become a meme.

I don't think that's what a meme is.

>>2583539
>A meme (/ˈmiːm/ meem)[1] is "an idea, behavior, or style that spreads from person to person within a culture

It is a meme.

can we stop having this conversation

>>2583550

In that case, would the SYWTPSFD image be a meme?

>>2583569

it's an infopic, and it literally has nothing to do with anything

>>2583569
I'd argue not. By possibly containing memes it doesn't become a meme itself.

>>2583550

Wouldn't that make Doom and Wolfenstein the original meme games because they started the trend of hunting for keys and shooting dudes in a first person perspective?

and Doom started Deathmatch, which is an idea that's been passed on from generation to generation for YEARS.

>>2583575
>and it literally has nothing to do with anything
No, if we're going by that definition of meme, it's an idea that spreads from person to person. It has plenty to do with it.

just accept that you got angry because they used 'meme' to make reference to a 'social justice' reference that was thrown in without making any sense.

memes tbh lads

>>2583598
>>2583608

And why are you getting angry? Discussing the nature of a meme and what counts as a meme is perfectly fine discussion, the only person being a cunt here are the ones trying to shove it off.

How do I make darkplaces quit defaulting to the multiplayer versions of each map?

>>2583616
>Discussing the nature of a meme and what counts as a meme is perfectly fine discussion

But it's an off-topic discussion and you're prolonging it on purpose

>>2583630

You are not a moderator. You do not determine what is off-topic.

This amused me.

Anyway still playing Blade of Agony, still loving it. The second mission was a bitch though, I had to cheat myself to some ammo at one point, the minefield was much more frustrating than fun, and I never managed to find the shotgun that I had full shells for. Also I get a bit booty-bothered that enemies firing mp40's at me only drop them occasionally. The mission(s) after that have been much smoother though.

>>2583635
haha no. topic is determined by the board rules, the thread starter, and consensus amongst thread participants.

>>2583648
>the thread starter, and consensus amongst thread participants.

Has absolutely no rule over the current line of discussion.
Besides, we're all anonymous, with no way to track who is who. You have no way to verify what the "consensus" is, aside from spontaneous "me" "me" "me" posts which can be easily samefagged.

I quit mapping my super experimental map a long time ago for several reasons.

I kind of feel like continuing it, but I there is so much other stuff I want to do and finish like learning how to program and make decent music.

>>2583664
Do it in your spare time. Mapping for doom is a pleasure, not work or an obligation.

>>2583648
>the thread starter,
haha no.

>>2583561
>/pol/shitters
>/v/irgins
>capable of following orders

You're hilarious.

>>2583674

Yeah, I think I need to start scheduling myself though since I am balancing so many hobbies in my freetime that take actual effort to become better at.

>>2583692
> think I need to start scheduling myself
That's a really good idea for anyone who has the discipline for it. Or actually, even more so for those who don't.

What kind of map are you making anon?

>>2583696

A massive black void that takes 3/4 of a massive sector with islands of architecture that you must either teleport to or use bridges to get to or run off the edges of things to get to.

It uses lots of slope based level design and abstract stuff, It's kind of inspired by Super Monkey Ball, just levels dangling in space.

However when you finish up in the black void, a immense sector which takes up 1/4 of the overall map opens up and reveals a insanely large room with a massive cube you can walk inside and fight monsters in, it actually has light and a roof that opens up to the sky.

It's basically going from 1 end of an extreme to another I guess.

I am trying to make monster encounters well placed and meaningful, and architecture relatively basic in order to keep things optimized in such a large map.

>>2583690

And now what does /pol/ and /v/ have t--

Oh wait, it's you.

>>2583696
A Doom map, obviously.

>>2583704
If you're using a lot of 3dfloors in open areas, consider using flying monsters so their pathfinding doesn't get fucked as bad.

Anyway it sounds neat, a bit like Xen from half life?

>>2583716
you must be great at parties

>>2583716
that described in >>2583704 does not sound much like a doom map to me... except The Sky May Be crossed with Nullspace, perhaps.

>>2583723
>you must be great at parties
Not him but thanks you just reminded me I have not been to a party since my student days back in '02, '03.

>>2583735

You should go to /tg/, you'll join bunches of parties.

http://a.uguu.se/nqfhxc_pl02u742.lmp

4th attempt.

>>2583723

Kind of like Xen but in a black void.

>>2583729

The "islands" you play within play like their own little contained doom maps with their own little gimmicks.

The cool part about it is you can see what other areas look like from far away.

Like I said, it's experimental. I also have a old-school style Boom compatible Doom 2 map cooking that is just for pure John Romero mapping style inspired gameplay.

>>2583790
That EoE skybox looks neat, wad?

>>2583867
>The "islands" you play within play like their own little contained doom maps with their own little gimmicks.
Sounds pretty damn fun.

Post some screenies!

>>2583875

Check the filename.

>>2583890
Oh didn't notice, thanks anyway

I know it landed up in a Cocoaward, but I feel Hadephobia was under underrated anyway.

>>2583919
Is it a megawad? What's it like, thematically and gameplay-wise?

>>2583931
I was mistaken, it was a runner up.

Still I think it's a solid Boom megawad.

http://doomwiki.org/wiki/Hadephobia

>>2583882

It's nowhere near close to being done. Like 2% done. And I am a very slow worker.

I haven't textured anything yet or put any detail in the geometry because I am still outlining the basic map structure.

My other more vanilla style doom map has had more progress on it.

>>2583628

You know, that's a good question.
I had that exact issue when playing Darkplaces, and I had to jump through so many fucking hoops to fix it. And since there's like zero information on this anywhere, it was pretty much all trial and error.

>>2583628
>>2583628
Delete all of your .cfg files and try again. You likely have some multiplayer config executing.

Failing that, go get Quakespasm.

>one of the people who worked on the 3DO port of Doom discusses it's development cycle
https://youtu.be/rBbIil2HPSU

>>2584120

THE Burger?

>>2584120
Damn, I never knew about the plan for new weapons and monsters. I found a source confirming it.

http://users.polytech.unice.fr/~buffa/videogames/Doom3DO.html

How the fuck do I fix this?

>>2584123
Yeah, Burger Bill had a sex change.
Whatever makes them happy I suppose.

>>2584198
Well, given her age, she's more convincing than a lot of other mtf transgenders

>>2584120
this is pretty crazy stuff, i cant open any of those files, is there any new art in them?

>>2584120
>the magazine shots were literally just photoshopped over actual Doom screenshots

Holy hell that must have been a lot to take in. Can't imagine being forced to essentially make an entire port in a few months from scratch.

>>2584252
Well, according to the video, Rebecca ported over the Jaguar version to save time. But because that particular port had a special sound driver, she had to go back later with her co-workers and make brand new music

>>2584120
>here's the pictures!
>okay, where's the game?
>here! see these pictures?

oh my fucking fuck, yikes
This pretty much explains everything.
I never knew just why the 3DO version was so screwed, yikes.

Is there some kind of mod to remove the randomized damage? Its really starting to get on my nerves.

>>2584261
She say it was the CEO and his band that made the music.

>>2584268
You really hardly notice the damage spread.

Go play Heretic if you want true pain related to that.

>>2584261
Yeah, just getting into that part.

I'm just boggled that the company was funded by this dude's church, and he thought you could just copy pictures to make the game. That shit would be legit horrifying if I was her.

>>2584285

Oh I have, and I hated it. Its a real pain in the ass in berserk mode too, but I'm noticing it enough during normal gameplay for it to get in the way.

>>2584285
>Heretic E4M1 in smite meister
Jesus Christ, how horrifying.

>>2584262
Keep going, it gets better
the CEO called up demanding to know where the new weapons are and was recording their conversation so that if Rebecca spoke out of turn or something, he could sue her and her company for not fulfilling their end of the contract

Who the fuck thought chaingunner traps made good gameplay, and why hasn't he been killed yet?

>>2584347
Chaingunner closets and revenant+archvile spam are the cheapest and most annoying kind of traps. Seriously, fuck Chillax in the ear.

>>2584336
Not him, but holy fuck. I can't believe the fucker was that incompetent.

>>2584268

That'd make for an interesting mutator

>>2584268

Eh, randomized weapon damage isn't really an issue, but holy shit, randomized enemy damage? Such stupid fucking design.

You know, looking back, Doom had some really shit design decisions that they really didn't learn from in Doom 2.

>>2584347
Chaingunner traps hurt a lot and basically guarantee that the player gets hurt.
Mappers use it as a HP tax.

>>2584352
Archviles and Revenants are the only enemies dangerous at all times on any skill level.

>>2584397

>Mappers use it as a HP tax.

But that doesn't work. Enemy damage is randomized to a stupid degree, so you cannot know how much damage they're going to do, so you can't effectively design around them.
What mappers actually do is throw in a chaingunner trap when they feel like making their maps more difficult without making them challenging.

>>2584406
When I said HP Tax I didn't mean that they were looking to take a specific amount of HP.

Only that they are going to be taxing your HP.

Most enemies will not even really hit a seasoned Doom player outside of Revenants and Archviles.
Hitscanners don't generally hurt a lot when you have armor but Chaingunners get lots of changes to take some HP away.

>>2584406
i think youre really making a big deal about this, theres usually a reaction delay for chaingunners and shottys, at best youll get 20 hp off you if youre confused about something. You just have to accept straight up traps sometimes, youll know the next time.

http://www.pcgamer.com/doom-will-not-get-mod-support-in-addition-to-snapmap/

Okay, so what the fuck is going on?
Is Snapmap actually something more than just mapping? They're talking as if it's a full set of tools, when at first they just said Snapmap would just be for mapping, and previously they said there'd be a development kit, and then they said there'd be no more mod tools, and now they're saying everything's handled with Snapmap?

What the FUCK is going on?

>>2584268
>>2584386
>>2584386
>randomized enemy damage? Such stupid fucking design.

Dungeons and Dragons, boys.

id software played that thing religiously and it ended up inspiring Doom to a good extent.

>>2584419

>You just have to accept straight up traps sometimes

No I don't, and I don't know why you think I do.

Also you'll get a fuckload more than 20hp off, depending on if you get lucky or not. Which ties back into that being a shit mechanic.

>>2584427

Yeah, I know, and it shows a really clear lack of understanding about both DnD and Doom. Which is weird, given who made the game.

>>2584425

Wait until release, find out then. All tools related to modding seem to go through development hell.

Straight up.

If you can't deal with how Doom was designed, and of all things, you complain about randomized enemy damage, then maybe you should consider that Doom is not the game for you.

There's plenty of other videogames to try, and not just first person shooters. Thanks for giving it a try in the first place, though.

>>2584425
Well I'm pretty fucking baffled.

Did anybody here upgrade to Win10? If so, do ZDoom, GZDoom and Zandronum all work on it (including DoomSeeker)?

>>2584425
WAKE ME UP
(WAKE ME UP INSIDE)

>>2584425
Snapmap is your mod tools, fucking deal with it.

It's not hard to understand.

>>2584406
>without making them challenging.

You can't declare something as not challenging just because you don't like it.

>>2584425

>misinformation fucking everywhere, one side said X thing when the other one said Y, etc.

you know, this is the kind of stuff they were so worried and scared about, that led them to do that quakecon reveal at closed doors in the first place.

they should sit the fuck down, tweak whatever/whoever the fuck is loose inside the current team, and keep the focus on one single fucking thing, otherwise this is going to be a huge disaster and everyone will lose the spirit and whatever hopes they have on the industry.

>>2584438

But I'm enjoying Doom quite a bit, and it seems like an easy and obvious thing to fix, so I assumed someone would have done it.

>>2584459

Its kind of hard to argue that effectively spawning an enemy behind someone and giving them a free hit is an effective test of skill.

>>2584434
>Also you'll get a fuckload more than 20hp off, depending on if you get lucky or not.

More like, depending if you're standing still or moving a lot, and how far/close you are to the chaingunnerr. Cover also helps.

>>2584425
>is snapmap more than just mapping
They actually did have a game logic editor shown for like 5 seconds at E3, so it is more than mapping.

>>2584415
revenant missiles are probably the dumbest thing
>random 10-80%, random homing
who fucking thought THAT was a good idea

>>2584463

If you tweak the enemy damage to a single, static number, then I can assure you Doom's balance is going to go down the toilet.

If nobody made a 'fix' for over the past 20 years, then maybe such thing wasn't 'broken' by any means in the first place.

>>2584467
You don't seem to understand what skill is even being tested there...

>>2584475

No one said it was broken, just bad design, and I suspect that statement is hard to argue with. However, as you say, its part of balance, so maps would have to pick one or the other, and logically they'd pick the default. Still, I suspect if you just set damage values to the average, since they're normalized anyway, balance would work out more or less fine.

>>2584347
>>2584268
>>2584386
>>2584406
>>2584434
>>2584463
>>2584467
>>2584474

You seem to be visibly upset over how a WAD is managing monster traps (by the looks of things is either Plutonia or a custom WAD), and you're also blaming one of Doom's gameplay mechanics that rarely ever gets questioned for it.

First of all, what you need to do right now is to stop playing Doom for a while and calm down. I gotta say that I'm a bit curious over how you're complaining about such thing when Doom (or Doom 2 for that matter) never actually had such a strong amount of chaingunner traps in the first place, so I'm going to assume you're quickly jumping to the hard stuff right off the bat.

Therefore I must ask, why? You had the entire first episode of Doom (which arguably isn't that hard on Ultraviolence in the first place) to get accustomed to Doom's mechanics; you stand still, you die: that's one of Doom's most well-known laws. Nobody in the community actually puts chaingunners just to damage the player without actually leaving a bit of room for them to maneuver and take cover.

By the way, what difficulty are you currently playing on? Are you indeed playing Plutonia or another WAD?

what are some good hi-res huds?

Hud files that won't mess with any other texture or sprite mods

>>2584505

I'm not all of those people, but I for one am neither particularly upset, nor playing anything other than vanilla Doom 1. I just noticed an easily fixable design fault, and asked if anyone had fixed it.

>>2584505

I just played through one of the first levels of Doom 2 where they shove you in a darkened hallway with a bunch of chaingunners. If I recall, the number of chaingunners drop off quite a bit after that, so its not the end of the world or anything, just generally poor design.

From what I've played, Plutonia is straight up shit though.

>>2584505
>>2584474 here, I'm not that guy from those other posts

but 10-80% is a really stupid spread
don't give a shit about randomized damage in general, monster traps are okay unless you don't have room to maneuver

>>2584509

alright fuck. ANY good huds. I can't find shit that doesn't look like the inside of a misshapen helmet or a call of a duty screen

>>2584551
i like nc hud

Do people who hate chaingunners not move very often ingame or something? I hardly ever have a problem with them, outside of a few hordes in slaughtermaps, but even then, those maps still usually have enough cover.

>>2584582
It's generally how they're used outside of the stock maps at times. Some maps use them as hitscan turrets that will not stop until you take cover (and can also be unreachable in vanilla gameplay unless you get closer), and other have a tendancy to dump a chaingunner or two at point blank.

Although much worse are archvile and Spider Mastermind "turrets", those are just bullshit. Like the last level of Sunlust has unreachable Archviles that are very far away, but will attack if you get too close to the edges.

>>2584582
I can't be the only one who absolutely despises shotgunguys.

They were fucking insufferable in Doom 3 as well.

>>2584625
you spoilered the wrong part

>>2584624
>and can also be unreachable in vanilla gameplay unless you get closer

I've hardly played any maps that didn't have some form of cover to use. Some maps just have it less obvious than others.

>>2584625
Shotgunners can be a nuisance in big numbers. But I'm still not that irritated by them.

>>2584645
I can accept cover, but my main beef with chaingunners is how tough they are health wise. They normally take two shotgun blasts to kill unless you get lucky with a meat shot, which can cause problems if you have multiple ones on you. Their saving grace though is that they're pretty good at instigating infighting and can severly injure monsters even if they come out on top.

>>2584659
I can agree that a single shotgun shot not always killing it is annoying. But most levels with them tend to have bigger weapons.

>>2584582
I can't be the only one who fucking despises shotgun guys

they were even worse in Doom 3
>what is reloading

>>2584659
jjust use the chaingun on them, it stutters them pretty well where if youre fast enough you can juggle bullets between the two

>>2584663
At least they arent like the Lost Souls. Those things are retardedly durable for an enemy that can be spawned over and over again.

the only Doom monsters I truly hate are Revenants and Pain Elementals, but its a love hate kinda thing, but i fucking hate them so much

>>2584671
At least Pain Elementals you can block by getting point blank in their faces.

Gotta admit, that PRO DOOM MONSTER STRATS video had some legit useful tips. Still am trying to get the hang of baiting Revenants.

>>2584672
it does actually, ive taken quite a few tips from it, the pain elementals tip is good but only if youre alone and close, theyre usually wandering the skies with a buddy while youre fending off a separate horde

>>2584670
One of the main changes I've always cherished in both Doom 64 and the PSX version of Doom was both having weaker lost souls. You can literally take them out in a single shotgun blast, which is doubly good especially in D64 where they are thrice as aggressive.

Though one of my biggest beefs with it was also the fact that you could no longer block PEs from spamming because they made it so that they deal splash damage everytime a soul gets aborted.

>>2584671
Every Doom monster can become a fucking cunt to fight on certain occassions and on certain wads, actually. Scythe 2 teached me to hate mancubi and revenants almost as much as I hate fucking feminists.

>>2584671
>but its a love hate kinda thing, but i fucking hate them so much

they hate you too

faggot <3

>>2584672

played some doom earlier. how the fuck do i do this when there's 2 barons and a bunch of imps in front of him?

>>2584830
alright I admit it, this whole post is adorable

>>2581686
Anyone got the WebM of that custom doom level with the portal doors/ doors from prey.

Has anyone ever made a mod that makes the Monsters behave more closely to their Doom 64 counterparts?

>>2584195
This is doom life, right?

>>2582740
Will the cyber demon be unbroken? by en by by en by.. there's a better home a way in the doom portal in the doom portal.

I only just noticed this, but the M_DOOM in BTSX E2 is slightly shorter than E1's.

I'm guessing it might be because E1's glitches with the satusbar in Chocolate Doom (most likely vanilla, too).

random damage is balanced by savegames anywhere. took a hit you didn't like? just quickload!

no but seriously. random damage teaches pessimism. you must assume any incoming shot may take the maximum possible damage, and act accordingly. so instead you learn to dodge, and you find you are fast enough to dodge pretty much anything. you are not a slow-moving tank.

Honestly, only thing I dislike about random damage, is that its ridiculous with the berserk fist. it can go as high as 200 damage, and can be as low as a mere 20 damage.

>>2583713

he wouldn't have latched on that post about wrack if it wasn't for him telling the truth about some games hopping on to the 'diversity' train for a quick buck. it gave him away.

>>2583635
>You are not a moderator.

the irony hurts so much.

>>2584984

i seriously couldn't understand those arguments against tough monster placement. you're playing a hard wad, you should expect tough opposition at minimum.

don't like it? accept that you may not be prepared for the challenge and drop the difficulty a little. any decent wad made post-2009 should have been tested and tweaked on all difficulties.

you don't like the wad at all? stop playing it and play something else instead. we have more than ten thousand custom wads at our reach, more than we may ever play in our lives, there must be something made over the past 20 years that fits your liking.

vanilla saves also stops whatever monster was attacking you.

>>2584851
>in front of him?

Swing your fist, make the PE shoot Lost souls at them to make them in-fight

>>2584914

Have you checked Super Doom 64? I apologize for the shitty answer but you might have to open the mod and extract the DECORATE code from the monsters.

>been mapping for awhile
>start working on stuff for another long while
>go to test the map
>several textures are now HoMs with no apparent reason

There's nothing wrong with them, according to the linedef info, but I have no idea wtf is causing all these textures (which appear perfectly normal in doombuilder) to give HoM effect. There's not a fuckton of textures or sectors being displayed or anything liket that; it's just all sorts of fucked up.

If anyone knows about this, or why it might be happening, any tips would be nice.

>>2585063

A screenshot might help, bro.

>>2585070
I dunno if you can gleen any info from this, but here ya go. Certain textures come through, but it seems like the HoMs are on the BIGBRIK2 and on some linedefs that don't have any textures.

>>2585073

It looks like your sectors aren't actually properly closed.

>>2585079
What? All of these textures were fine until I went about making other things, but when I came back to check stuff out they were all broken.

I don't know what you mean about sectors not closed properly though.

>>2585079
>>2585073
For example, this is what it's SUPPOSED to look like.

>>2585086
Yeah prolly it's broken sectors. Try selecting the Make Sectors tool and click every sector in the area, then launch.

>>2585112
No, I sorta figured it out. It has to do with the nodebuilder and (possibly) having to do with me switching from z(doom in hexen) to udmf in the middle of making the map; which I think might've changed the nodebuilder, I dunno.

I'm going to try making the whole map into a prefab and then putting it into a fresh wad so it'll all be built the same way. Thanks for the help though.

>>2585124
>and (possibly) having to do with me switching from z(doom in hexen) to udmf in the middle of making the map

YUP
THAT'D BREAK THINGS
WHY DID YOU DO THAT

I know it was probably for a legitimate reason but I want to yell at you for it anyway

>>2585126
>WHY DID YOU DO THAT
I was trying to take baby steps, but then someone called me a fag and said I should just jump in and learn; so I did.

I'm really hoping this prefab copy-paste will work.

>>2584425
My hype is totally gone now.

>>2585129
that looked really cool, too. then you decided to tie it to zdoom for no reason... i am saddened

>>2585170
Doom in Hexen format isn't even as widely supported as UDMF, the hell are you talking about?

>>2585170
>>2585176
wait. never mind. i didn't see the zdoom in hexen part. sorry.

Does anyone know how can i to load this Blade of Agony wad? I've been trying everything since yesterday but it only gives me errors.

>>2584425
>The SnapMap tools are much the same. Give it to anybody and they can do simple stuff, but the complex stuff – all those things that used to be super-complicated – the idea is that there's enough complexity and depth there that you can do all this scripting stuff, and make new gameplay modes. It’s got this really steep high end, but you don’t have to jump right to it like you do with the [previous] Doom tools.

>Still, SnapMap won't be as flexible as previous Doom modding tools or even Minecraft, with the editor seemingly incapable of recreating outdoor environments.

So apparently, SnapMap will be the all-in-one modding/mapping tool but it will be ultra-simplified so console kids can create maps with a pad.

>>2585193
Do you have the latest development build of gzdoom? Should be able to just drag and drop BoA with it, choosing doom 2 as your iwad.

>>2585232
Yeah it says could not load realloc. Before it was something about DirectX is missing but i've updated my drivers and still can't get to play it.

>>2582995
In Black Ops 1
>One of the few CoD game I ever bothered to really play.
I enjoyed the perk in multiplayer that let you run for an infinite number of time.

Figures in the 2nd black ops they changed it to only be a 5 second extension before you stopped in your tracks panting heavily.

Advanced warfare luckily changed it back.

Still though I'm so tired of limited sprint. I love any game that encourages running and gunning, advanced warfare with the right perks lets you run infinitely and shoot whilerunning. Thats all I need.

>>2585274
Can you play other wads with the same version of gzdoom?

>>2585274
I forget how the file originally came when you downloaded it.

I assume I extracted the folder from the pk3 and just used that. For some reason just dragging the folder over to gzdoom works absolutely fine. So if all else fails and i'm not delusional try that instead.

>>2585281
Well no, Even i've updated my drivers it still gives an DirectX 3.0 error.

>>2585283
I've been actually trying that. Also putting pk3 file into ZDL doesn't work too. It is a total mess.

>>2584998
>boogeymen

fucking epic, of course it's okay when you do it

>>2585284
Okay do you have an ancient graphics card? Try downloading a pre-2.0 build with the old renderer.

>>2585295
Aaand... a script error. That's it i'm giving up. Fuck this computer.

>>2585305
What do you mean script error? Like scripts in-game? Might be BoA requires a recent build and those all use the new renderer which makes them incompatible with your pc, but there could be a driver issues of some sort. You could ask over at the zdoom or drd team forums.

>>2582913
>>2582938
>>2582951
>>2582964
>>2582981
>>2582985
Well, I've now setup BASSMIDI, set its volume about 3000, and then turned down offending ports to about 50% on volume mixer. Fixes problem. As a side effect, I now have to have the music in non-offending ports in the louder side of the bars, but oh well.

>>2585314
Nah i mostly get it. This wad needs an 2+ version renderer and 2+ version renderers needs directx 3.0 which i don't have any.

Well, guess it's time to buy a new computer. Thanks for trying to help anyway.

Are the two Memento Mori megawads good?
I was looking for WADs designed for coop and I want to know why exactly they're categorized as that.

>>2585319
To be more precise, what you need is a GPU that supports OpenGL 3 or higher. I wouldn't recommend settling for less than 4, though. While the new renderer will technically run on GL 3 cards, it runs like utter shit and gets framedrops in stock maps, never mind crazy high-detail Tormentor wads. Nvidia is also a better choice than AMD for GZDoom, because Graf doesn't have AMD hardware to test on and so can't optimize the renderer for it. That only compounds on AMD's inferior OpenGL support and generally leads to bad times all around.

Does anyone have a link to the latest version of that arcade machine mod?

>>2585367
Map changes triggers and stuff if you play in Coop so they need both of you to solve stuff iirc

>>2585315
BASSMIDI sucks ass.
Use Timidity, or something along those lines.
BASSMIDI has a tendency to stutter on certain parts of a song.

>>2585367
MM1 has at least half a dozen maps that have coop exclusive sections/functionality.

MM2 downplayed that significantly, though coop was still implemented.

>>2585423
>BASSMIDI has a tendency to stutter on certain parts of a song

I've never had this, myself. And I've used it for years.

>Use Timidity

Except that's worse.

>>2585379
You don't mean that weird grand theft auto style city thing which has an arcade with Doom Hunt in do you?

Does anyone else feel like they made the cacodemons too small in the new Doom? They are HUGE in 1 and 2

>>2585129

I'm kinda learning that starting backwards from UDMF to Vanilla has been better for me.

In UDMF you can cheat a whole bunch of shit. Texture use, alignment, triggers, scripts, blah blah blah. Vanilla is a lot more unforgiving (especially with flat/ceiling alignment jesus fuck.)

>>2582605

I've seen some re-imaginings that are less offensive (pic related) in terms of being so odd, but yeah - Doom's original boxart helmet is just as impractical and wacky as is his gun. Definitely dig the QIIIA version the most. Doom 64 gets a special mention for the more recon look' antenna dangles.

At least it's not Marathon's pilot helmet. Gave him big ol' fly eyes - but I can't be mad because Craig Mullens is hot shit.

>>2585540

I guess when you go (pic related) it's really kind of important to upload a fucking picture.

>>2585453
>>2585379

What? Dude for how long you've been?

He's talking about this

http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=49057

>>2582702
then you are new to yahtzee's content i'm assuming
he's a pretty cool guy

>>2584425
http://www.pcgamer.com/dooms-best-new-feature-hell-demon-pinatas/
Are these people for real?

>>2585543

>Notes
>"This doesn't seem to work with pre-2.x versions of GZDoom, sorry guys"

And here. we. go.

>>2585556
Question: Have we actually seen Doomguy move fast in DOOM 4? I'm talking original, DOOM 1, faster-than-fucking-lightspeed-sanic tier running. Have we seen any footage of that?

>>2585575
>Have we seen any footage of that?

plenty, but it has been taken down every now and then in youtube

the player is not Classic Doom fast, but pre-COD fast, sort of like UT2K4 fast

>>2585556
>pinatas
>not piñatas
Christ, it's not even the same pronunciation.

>>2585584
>the player is not Classic Doom fast, but pre-COD fast, sort of like UT2K4 fast
That's... pretty good. I'll say I'm looking forward to 4. Definitely not maximum hype level yet but I'm excited to have a new game. We'll see how it goes.

>>2585575
The E3 demo was said to be slower than the QuakeCon footage last year. I think they played it slowly on purpose.
The speed is obviously not going to be nearly as fast as the originals, it would probably be a bit silly if it was.
They could do it, but I doubt they would present it well enough to work.

>>2585585

American keyboards don't have such thing, anon, cut them some slack.

>>2585594
My Spanish keyboard doesn't have certain symbols (even though it has more than an American one) but I can look them up or copypaste them.
Besides, you can ~ and n to write an ñ.

>>2585596
UK keyboard here and I can €éáúíó but no ~n

>>2585602
Uh, that's weird. My keyboard doesn't even have ~ written in it, but I can just AltGr + 4 to write it.
I usually memorize alt codes for some symbols though.

>>2585609
AltGr+4 is € on UK keyboards tbh

>>2585556
I like the demon piñatas.
There, I said it.
>>2585575
Not really. There's some fast movement in the snapmap demo.
It's UT/Quake (intended) speed, at most.

>>2585531
I actually forgot that I could move flat/ceiling textures because I've conditioned myself to build around the 8px lines, and I'll keep up with where the patterns get cut off.

There's definitely some easier things in UDMF, but the reason I'm using it is for more advanced scripting and such; also silent teleporters.

>>2585609
you can just press Alt Gr and the " ¨ " key, then type "n"

Hey /vr/doom I'm completely fucking retarded and as such need some help.
I'm trying to start using 3d floors using doom builder 2, and understand how to make the 3d floors, but I'm wondering how do I get the 3d floor to appear in visual mode? When I go into the game mode, the 3d floor appears just fine but that's incredibly tedious compared to manually editing it in visual mode.
It's probably something really fucking basic that I'm missing, right?

>>2584397
Archies, yes. Revenants no. Just stick to the fucker and use ssg.

>>2585654
>I'm trying to start using 3d floors using doom builder 2
You really really should use GZDoom builder for that. And for everything else, even vanilla really. DB2 doesn't support showing 3dfloors in visual mode.

>>2584397
>>2585658

Archies take 5 SSG shots to die
Revenants only two. (I legit killed one with two shots yesterday)

>>2585668
>Archies take 5 SSG shots to die

Can be 4 if you're lucky.

>>2585668
>>2585671
It's pretty consistently four, as long as you land full blasts. And that's with ZDoom's more lenient RNG, it'll be even more certain in vanilla since you'll be rolling more 15s.

>>2585665
Thank you based anon.

>>2581687
http://www.pcgamer.com/doom-will-not-get-mod-support-in-addition-to-snapmap/

Any good WADs that make use of 3D floors? I've only seen them in Putrefier.

>>2585687
Why are Bethesda so shit

>>2585687

this got legitimately posted in this thread, and the past one.

>>2585668
Monster's danger depends how it reacts to the weapons. If it can be stopped with continous shots(like revenant or caco), then it's an easy prey no matter what damage he inflicts. Archviles mostly waste your time, they're not that deadly unlike real assholes like baron of hell or a chaingunner.

>>2585687
guess shills at bethesda forgot how doom prospered.

>>2585687
>giving consoles limited mod support for FO4
>limiting mod support for DOOM 4
Bethesda y u do dis

>>2584517
>From what I've played, Plutonia is straight up shit though.
>if it's hard, that means it's shit

not this shit again

>>2585687
I just want to know if they're planning on releasing the game with mod support in the sense that the pak files will be hackable/what-not.

Problem is there wouldn't be a decent way to build maps for Doom4 without idtechs editor...

Forgive me if this is a really dumb question but is there a way to letterbox in ZDoom? I want to have a decent resolution that's not stretched out or widescreen because of wonky FOV shit.

>>2585687
This was posted before. Like 4 times.

Anyways.

Relevant information at 48:50
twitch tv/bethesda/v/8544322
"The Snapmap feature looks to me like it's something that could really extend the life of Doom and keep us playing it for years and years but does it include or are there any plans to include the ability to modify textures, character models, weapons, anything like that"?
Marty Stratton:
"The base Snapmap doesn't but I actually want to make this point. Snapmap is our approach to making everybody have the ability to mod "in some fashion" it doesn't in our mind replace our desire to make our tools and technology available like we always have to real programmers. Now I will say, if you've done that, if you've been a modmaker I highly encourage you to try Snapmap too because just the fuctionality in there is really cool. My favorite part about Snapmap is that everybody has all the data so is you've been a modmaker or somebody who makes levels or texture packs to have somebody play your stuff requires you to upload it and to download it and things like Steam Workshop have made that easier but with Snapmap literally everyone has everything and the only data that passes between clients is a little instruction file. The depth of the stuff you can make is going to blow you away. We had a guy in QA that made a piano. So I highly encourage everyone to try Snapmap but fear not, making our stuff available to you is near and dear to our hearts so it certainly isn't a replacement"

So we'll have to wait and see more

>>2582021
do not touch the descending skulls. They're not just for spawning monsters, they'll kill you instantly when touched.

>>2585676
zdoom's rng is actually fairer than doom's fixed table of numbers, it's been shown doom's rng gives slightly higher than 33% average of 15 damage pellets.

what you are probably referring to is the zdoom blockmap and intercepts fixes that prevent on occasion hitscans passing harmlessly through a target whose hitbox unfortunately straddles two or more blockmap squares.

>>2585719
the flying skull boxes are harmless to the touch and will pass straight through the player. you will die instantly if you are standing on the spawn point when they produce a monster, though.

>>2585678
Bonus: You can actually select the 3d floor directly and change it's height/textures etc. It makes using them a thousand times more convenient.

>>2585719
>>2585736
I thought you transform into a monster instead of dying at there.

>>2585729
No, that's what I said. ZDoom has balanced out RNG and you can still kill archviles in 4 full SSG shots fairly consistently. In vanilla's skewed pRNG you'll definitely pull it off because you roll 15s...I think 39% of the time? As opposed to much closer to 33% in ZDoom.

I really really wish the acs HudMessage had a ScaleX and ScaleY value. It'd make things so much fucking easier.

>>2585739
While that IS a nice headcanon, that's not what happens in game. You just get telefragged by a monster spawn-point. It's like the death teleports some maps have, where you teleport into a voodoo doll of the player and kill yourself.

>>2585740
you said "more lenient". this means "less strict". if anything zdoom's rng is more strict.

>>2585170
>then you decided to tie it to zdoom for no reason... i am saddened

The horror is palpable.

>>2567220

>Doom 4's imps look more like the originals', with the spikes and shit. They kinda look like Demonicron's.

Plot twist: IMX got into id software as an intern and that's why he left. And he's also the one behind the imp's new look.

Picture unrelated, but cute.

Among all the people on the Samsara roster i'm amazed strife guy isn't one of them.

>>2586035
It's because strife guy is far too strong for his own good.

>>2586035
Wait, prisoner never got in right?

...never will.

>>2586035
The reason given is he's too hard to implement and balance + terminus just likes other characters more than him and doesn't have infinite time and motivation for every single character from old fps games.

>>2585716
>Pete Hines, one of the leading forces of TES and Fallout 3, some of the biggest games that feature modding, is shitting all over a child company in terms of modding
I really don't fucking get it. At least Marty has a fucking clue what Doom 4 needs to succeed. Whether or not Bethesda is a bunch of shitheads or not will remain to be seen. But then again, with how New Vegas was handled, I'm expecting that it's going to be a shitty experience for everyone who isn't Bethesda, including id.

>>2586048
>" So I highly encourage everyone to try Snapmap but fear not, making our stuff available to you is near and dear to our hearts so it certainly isn't a replacement"
I think it's just a case of miscommunication within the company, I'm fairly certain we'll get an SDK since they've said so.

Guess who's famous now :^)

https://twitter.com/doom_txt/status/628256469222342656

>>2586074
I know that people from id have said so, I just hope is doesn't get blocked by Bethesda because they want Fallout 4 to be in the headlines. I still cringe painfully whenever I think about the 85 on metacritic deal they had with Obsidian.

>>2586039
>>2586047
>Balance
Who plays multiplayer anyway?

In singleplayer balance don't mean shit, and if you mean the game will be too easy.

Who cares? If I want a challenge i'll pick somebody else.

>>2586098
>Who plays multiplayer anyway?
It was designed from the ground up as a multiplayer mod with balanced DM as well as co-op. There are tons of addons for samsara that add strifeguy as well as tons of other shit, but the quality doesn't approach terms original stuff.

>>2586094
Yeah the metacritic thing was fucking retarded. FN:V was infinitely better than FO3, I'm guessing largely due to based chris avellone.

>>2586098
>Who plays multiplayer anyway?
Not you?

>>2586098
>Who plays multiplayer anyway?

GET A LOAD OF THIS FUCKING GUY

>>2586098
>Who plays multiplayer anyway?

we can see you, graf

>>2586098
>Who plays multiplayer anyway?

>>2584672
>>2584676
Yeah, stuff like blocking the Pain Elemental or how you can hug a short wall to take less damage from Arch-Vile hellfire, I didn't really know of those.

And while I did know you could bait the Pinkies to whiff with their chompers, I never quite realized to what extent you could do so and the video showcases such very thoroughly.

>>2586098
>Who plays multiplayer anyway?
RT @doom_txt

>>2586089

Pffffft

>>2586094
That guy with the suppossed insider info said that apparently they want Doom to be a flagship title and they don't have much confidence on Fallout media wise because of that clusterfuck

>>2586098
>He doesn't play multiplayer
LOL Fagget

Am I doing it right guys?

>>2586137
did you know hiding behind collectibles protects you from lost souls?

>>2586241
If I remember, any custom enemy that uses the lost soul charge code stops dead at any item. I don't think there's a known reason why that happens.

>>2586029

>I call it bold and Blaz.

MORE LIKE

BELONGS IN THE TRASH.

Is there any way to implement the Quake 2 soundtrack into Q2PRO?
It's the most faithful sourceport, to the original Quake 2 that I've found.

>>2584425
People actually liked the items shooting out from the enemies after you killed them? I thought it looked out of place for Doom, shit like that belongs in stuff like Diablo.

>>2586334
Just intuition here: Mount a folder with the sountrack files in them as a cd with daemon tools or similar software.

>>2586341
I think it is a really stupid system. It removes the necessity of map knowledge and might result in lazy level design.