/vr/ - Retro Games

>>2571358
First off
>Do all party members come at lvl 1
Yes

Second, you need to level grind a bit, thats it
thats all you need to do then you should get through the game fine,

its an RPG from the 90's if you weren't expected to grind a bit it would just be a pussy cake walk

It really doesn't take a genus to figure this shit out

>>2571358
>sucking at a JRPG
Wow, just. Wow.

>>2571418
It's pretty funny that you actually think grinding in RPG's is mandatory.

>I couldn't possibly know his invention could remove the pencil because the game didn't give me a cue.

Ahahaha what a faggot. Give up now, only rape awaits.

>>2571428
it was in the 90's

sure maybe you can get past shit if you're good but OP is clearly shit at this game so grinding is the only choice for him

>>2571430

Don't make rape jokes.

>>2571508
I'm not joking; his ass is literally going to get fucked.

>>2571508

I mix rape with comedy, but I'm not very good at it.

The girls can see the gags coming from a mile away.

>>2571534

OP I'm shit at JRPGs but this is a new level of retarded.

Please fuck up less in the future. Use a strategy guide if you must.

>>2571425
this^

>Game is sold with the strategy guide
>OP:THIS FUCKING GAME EXPECTS ME TO HAVE A STRATEGY GUIDE OR SOME SHIT?!

I have no sympathy for stupid people.

>>2571508
>Knock Knock
"Who's there?"
It's rape.

>I invested in Orange Kid's invention

>>2571948
There are so many fucking things wrong with this. First of all, the original Japanese release didn't come with a strategy guide, so it's not like the designers built the fucking thing around reading it. Second, it's not fucking impossible to beat the game without it. Third, someone not knowing about the strategy guide doesn't make them a fucking idiot, It just makes them ignorant of a fact not many know about. Fourth, if you use strategy guides at all, you're a fucking scrub.

>>2571358
>being this bad

>>2571358
Did you pirate it? That ramps the difficulty way up.

>>2572336
TBH you can probably go well without a strategy guide. It's an RPG, you talk to people, and it's not like the people in the game are hideously vague like in Final Fantasy NES. (They're vague because they give you shit to do, but that shit you do will kick your ass because it wasn't supposed to be done in that way but the order intended).

Anyway, you don't need a strategy guide for this game. Nothing is too cryptic. Anyway, if you're OP, grinding is a must for newbies, luckily Paula has a Teddy Bear which will be a good punching bag for the time being, if you don't have it then get another one, it takes hits for you. Avoid Slingshots. I used one once and the game became so much harder due to it's terrible accuracy. Stick with bats, and for Paula: Frying Pans. Do you need any more help? I can try to point you to the right direction.

>>2572336
>There are so many fucking things wrong with this. First of all, the original Japanese release didn't come with a strategy guide, so it's not like the designers built the fucking thing around reading it.
OK, so they decided to ship it with a strategy guide just for fun? You really believe that?
>Second, it's not fucking impossible to beat the game without it.
Sure, all you really need to do is realize you have to not press a single button when asked for a password to Belch's Base, and know you have to do nothing for about 2 minutes. Everyone can figure out something that easy.
>Third, someone not knowing about the strategy guide doesn't make them a fucking idiot, It just makes them ignorant of a fact not many know about.
No, but not attempting to figure out why you are having a hard time with an RPG known for being easy IS stupid. Rather than do a quick google and realize "Hey, this game came with a strategy guide, maybe I should check it out", OP instead whined about BAW, THIS IS HARD. That IS stupid.
>Fourth, if you use strategy guides at all, you're a fucking scrub.
You are one of those "People who don't enjoy the game the way I do are ENJOYING IT WRONG!" types eh? Have fun being angry at people for having fun.

>>2572431
>Anyway, you don't need a strategy guide for this game. Nothing is too cryptic.
So...you figured out the password puzzle without anyone telling you? Kinda doubt that.

The majority of people I see claiming that the game doesn't need a guide have already played through the game and either knew the answers from hearing about it already, or used the guide and now are trying to pretend like they didn't.

Wait a minute, are you that same poster that was trying to argue that Castlevania 2 wasn't obtuse?

>>2572405
I don't think it's very common to find pirated copies that aren't made to trick the lockout chip.

That aside, the piracy protection doesn't really change the way the enemies behave, it just dumps a shit ton of enemies on you instead. You'd run into swarms of enemies at every single instance, imagine like six Lil' UFO's in the valley, would be very challenging.

Or like two Territorial Oaks, a Spinning Robot and four Mobile Sprouts. You'd have to be fucking hardcore to get any far in the game at all.

Oh, and wipes your savefile and resets the game at the final boss. Always thought that was delightfully devious manner of copy protection.

>>2571358

The beginning of Earthbound is the hardest section. It gets A LOT easier, trust me.

>>2572658

you forgot about the fourside department store

>>2572454
You seem angry. Also I haven't played Castlevania 2. Looks cryptic tbh. Like the developers threw some things in for giggles

>>2571358
>Being bad at turn based RPGs
>Being bad at turn based JRPGs
>Being bad at Earthbound out of all games

I don't even want to think about you playing unconventional JRPGs and calling everything a bad design decision.

>>2572716
That part was actually pretty hard, fuck the Scalding Cups Of Coffee in particular.

>>2572716
I didn't have as hard a time there as I did in the desert. Just make sure you have lots of weapons for Lloyd.

>>2572454
>So...you figured out the password puzzle without anyone telling you? Kinda doubt that.
Didn't a Mr. Saturn tell you to do that?

>>2574601
-tell you what to do?*

>>2571358
I was going to offer you some tips until I read

>How can this be considered good game design?
Just fuck off

>>2572716
the only part that SUCKED was the UFOs and shit when you need the eraser. got my fucking ass handed to me there.

Are there any good difficulty/re-balancing hacks for Earthbound?

>how to defeat this stupidly strong boss?
>I know, let's give him his favorite food

>>2574601
I'm almost certain there was a Mr. Saturn who told you the password, yeah.

>>2574949

What the hell did you think that jar of flyhoney would be for? I've never heard of anyone NOT using it in the battle instantly. Of course there's supposed to be some kind of positive reaction from using a quest item on a boss that's connected to the quest item.

>>2574714
I doubt it. Probably bexause most would say it's okay as is. Not as related, but there is one for the original Mother, or Earth Bound(two words). Doubles EXP, and doubles Money.

>>2574949
A whole bunch of NPCs talk up the importance of the Fly Honey before the fight.

>>2571358
when you get to either of the deserts there is a worm that you can get a shitton of experience from, just grind on that for a bit

>>2575495
>>2575019
at the beginning I figured you could beat him if you tried hard enough. Apparently enough, when I did use the honey on him I just was confused in what way using food would weaken a slime. Video game logic.

>>2571425
I was going to recommend he git gud but he'd be luck if he could git average.

>>2573843
> whaling on the records and coffee cups in Dungeon Man

feels so good.

>>2576319
>Video game logic.
ha ha yeah we all know real-life slimes don't work that way!!

>>2572454
>OK, so they decided to ship it with a strategy guide just for fun? You really believe that?
I can believe that Nintendo of America thought Americans couldn't handle the game without a strategy guide just like they thought they couldn't handle SMB2 or the original damage system from SMB3.

>>2576638
That was actually quite satisfying, yeah.
Not so tough now, are you, fagets?

Earthbound isn't even a difficult game. I played it last year for the first time expecting some hard as balls JRPG and breezed through it with barely any problem.
The only times any enemies really put up a fight was at the beginning, the part where all the UFO's were after Twoson, and Fourside's mall. I didn't even grind all that much either.
I think a lot of people might just be really bad at video games.

>>2574986
>>2574601
He did
This guy >>2572454 is being a buttmunch

>>2571358
>I also gave money to apple kid but I couldn't possibly know his invention could remove the pencil because the game didn't give me a cue.

>It's called "Pencil Eraser"

??

1. Don't complain OP. If you're playing on WiiU you get restore points so you already have an advantage over anyone lucky enough to play in on SNES.

2. Never play Mother 1. The level grinding that you're complaining about is 10 times worse in that game and everything that makes Earthbound good is either missing or slightly shittier.

3. Just use the fucking guide on starmen.net and be patient you pleb. It's worth it.

>>2580017
"but what am i supposed to do with this pencil eraser?? there's this fuckin eraser blocking my path"

>>2572336

>>2580113
You'll need another key item that you get later in the game. Take a guess on what it's called.

>>2580157
what will happen when OP gets the eraser eraser

>>2580164
An angel gets its wings

>>2580092

>reccommending skipping Mother 1

>>2579292
Why were you expecting a hard rpg? Because of the hype? Or were you thinking of Mother 1?

>>2580157
It was a squid in Japan, but I think they literally changed it to pencil stuff literally for those wordplays.

>>2580596
you mean octopus

>>2580597
Yeah, octopus. Get the names mixed up. Thanks.

>>2575019
thats the only part i had to google. he isnt strong so i never died, i just beat him for an hour and when i realized id done millions upon millions of damage to him i figured something was wrong, so i went to the wiki to see how much HP he had and accidentally saw the part with the honey

Why are you even playing earthbound? It's a shitty game and a literal Dragon Quest clone.

>>2582760

>>2583026
this thing murdered my paula all the time.

>>2571358
I went through the Sanctuary Cave and beat the boss before I got Paula. After that, the enemies in the cave try to run away from you and you can attack from behind. Then, when you get Paula, you can level her up in there until she's strong enough to survive elsewhere.

I'm honestly wondering if you are mentally challenged, OP. I never met a person as stupid as you before.

>>2582760
>i don't like thing so no one should like thing!

>>2583383
I always take her along. She can do a decent number on the enemies once she begins to learn some psi attacks.

>>2572658
I got stuck when you change characters and those Grumpy Goats kill you really fast

>>2584439
Just grind up against them and git gud, it's not even hard.

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>>2571358
>it's so upsetting
no crying until the end

>first playthrough
>grind to beat Freddie and the robot
Literally the only grinding I had to do in the game. As long as you fight everything in your path, you'll manage most bosses pretty easily. I'm only just past Moonside, so I'm maybe only a third of the way through, but it's been a pretty comfortable progression for me.

Only real complaint is that inventory management is kinda suckass.

>>2591459
I really wish you could use Teddy Bears for inventory, that would have been more useful than using them as shields.

>>2580092
>Never play Mother 1

>>2591718
Earthbound Beginnings is shit
I wouldn't recommend it for the same reasons I wouldn't recommend Dragon Quest 2, which it is a blatant rip off of.

>>2571358
i played it. Never ran, always intentionally ran into every enemy i saw (except the trees and explode when die). I always had a supply of food but I rarely used it until the end when I tried to grind for Poo's weapon. (only time i grinded btw)

before going after Poo's sword I was int he 40-50 range, after 2hrs I was 60+on all characters, NEss was hitting 80.


death and difficulty shouldnt be a problem in this game.

Am I grabbing at straws here, or is the bolt in the franklin badge possibly a "reference" to Grateful Dead's steal your face album cover.

>>2592157

Well, the "Peaceful Rest Valley" in EB is actually called the Grateful Dead Valley in the original Mother 2.
Itoi also published the Grateful Dead book in Japan himself, or at least he wrote the prologue, something like that.

Not sure if the frank badge is a reference though

>>2592163
I knew about that, and I just kind of stumbled at this while looking at a badge I got at the fare thee well, which was right next to my franklin badge.

>>2571418
You don't really need to grind in Earthbound. All you really need to do is not avoid too many battles. That's how I did it, and the game was moderately challenging.

If you run away a lot or try to avoid most random encounters obviously you're gonna have a bad time.

Also, don't be afraid to use items. The game gives you plenty and you have limited inventory space anyways.

>>2591718
Mother 1 is alright but not great. I remember a LOT of grinding near the end, and plot wise its like a simpler Earthbound.

Besides if you can't git gud at EB you're gonna suck at Mother 1

>>2592231
>and plot wise its like a simpler Earthbound.

There are a lot of similar elements, but the plot is nothing like Earthbound. If anything, EB is more simple (or maybe more free, Mother 1 is more plot-focused, not as much as M3 though)

>>2592252
Really? When I played it it felt like Earthbound was a remake, but maybe I'm misremembering it. It has been a good long while since I played it.

Either way, for anyone getting into the series I usually recommend starting with EB, then playing Mother 3, and if you still want more after that play Mother.

>>2592259

Remember how in Mother 1 your grandma was the surrogate mother of the alien final boss?

Nothing like that in EB.

In fact, I recommend people who really want to enjoy the series to start with Mother 1, the infamous final battle of EB has a whole new meaning if you're already familiar with him from the past game. It's not as creepy or scary, as it is actually sad.

I can't figure out what OP is doing wrong. Abuse consumables and fight the main bosses in order. There really shouldn't be an issue.

op is triggered by earthbound. am I reading this right? what a sad bitch

don't run from enemies. enemies will start to run away from you when you are stronger. orange kid lied to you. you should have listened to the mouse; you could also have given money to both of them. all party members start at level 1 because they are supposed to be regular children but your other characters can carry them briefly while they catch up, which does not take as long as you seem to believe.

take a lot of food with you, use your psi powers a lot and stay close to town so you can heal up. go further away every time you leave town. kill trees and exploding enemies last. set your text speed to maximum. just keep playing and take your time

so, >>2591459 here

Still on my first playthrough. Just got to Deep Darkness.

Second complaint about the game: Fourside is the Namek of Earthbound. I eventually just caved and used a guide because I just wanted to stop going back to that fucking place. And even when you go to the next city, you STILL have to go back to Fourside.

Also, Poo seems like a less useful Paula. Does Starstorm make up for this? Poo hasn't returned yet, so I haven't had a chance to use him again.

>>2593602
You sure are terrible at this game, if you're not just trolling.

>>2593612
>terrible
I've only died four times. I'm generally overleveled, actually, so I beat a lot of bosses in 4 turns or less a lot.

The pacing of the game just gets stuck in Fourside because there are so many things you have to do in it, rather than just one objective. You're in and out of most towns pretty quickly.

>>2593602
Poo does get much more useful. His unarmed attacks aren't always that hot, but he knows a bunch of PSI stuff which is handy to have, in a pinch he can heal and shield you.

There's a sword which only he can use, which makes his attacks much better, but you basically have to grind like hell against a relatively annoying enemy (Starman Super) which frequently gets paired with a -fucking- annoying enemy (Nuclear Power Robot). It's a very rare drop.

Hi

>>2594039
fffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCCCKKK

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>>2594413