/vr/ - Retro Games

>>2568786
three letters: BVM

/thread

>>2568916
What?

>>2568786
mid 2000's CRTs for me
I'd like to get a nice console TV just for the look of it

>>2568916
7 letters: tryhard

>>2568943
Why don't you just fucking look it up if you don't know what he's talking about? Or is using Google way too complicated for your retarded brain?

>>2568786
Yeah I do, one from the late 90s. I have to use a switchbox and I'm adjusting to how good HD TVs are, mostly for newer stuff, as retro games aren't ideal for newer tvs due to multiple things.

>>2568916
Sorry but I'd take a sweet ass woodgrain TV with giant speakers and cabinets like OP pic over a BVM any day.

For retro I use tube TVs almost exclusively.

>>2569024
Looks delicious doesn't it? I would want one of those.

>>2568916
>>2568965
Don't get smug. Google brings me nothing except some music network and a host of unrelated shit.

Yeah go ahead and blow 15k on a BVM.

Lookup Sony BVM for anyone that doesn't know what that means.

>>2568965
fite me irl

>>2569043
Way to out yourself as a complete retard. If you had typed in "bvm crt" the first result would have told you what it was.

>>2569043
Let me get this straight. You're actually so retarded that you actually just typed "bvm" into Google instead of "bvm crt" even though you kne he was specifically talking about a brand of cathode ray tube television set? Or did you not even manage to figure that out? Did you think "BVM" was some kind of alien spaceship or a dishwasher or something?

>>2569126
>>2569129
You done yet?

>>2569043
I'm sorry you're too dumb to figure out how to look up on the Internet effectively. Please stop shitting up these threads with your moronic questions and please seek out a special needs counselor.

>>2569146
What's wrong? Upset that it's not longer a secret what a complete and utter idiot you are?

>>2568786
Primarily neither. I use a modern CRT monitor.
But I do have a CRT TV I can use as well. It's also modern.

>>2568958
>smug
5 words:
I got a free PVM-20L5.

>>2568965
>>2569126
>>2569129
Jesus christ, just answer the dude instead of getting so assblasted. "Google it, fuckface" as a reply to everything makes for pretty shit discussion.

>broadcast video monitor
>pro video monitor

>>2568943
This is a PVM.
BVM stands for Broadcast Video Monitor, and it's an excellent quality CRT.
PVM stands for Professional Video Monitor.

Both are for viewing TV signals, and they also happen to have RGB inputs, which is rare on American TV's. Since the SNES and a lot of other old consoles output RGB and it's the highest quality you can get out of them, plus the overall awesome quality of the PVM's and BVM's themselves, they are highly sought after by gamers.

I got mine free because I was a volunteer at the local PBS station, and after a few visits I heard they were upgrading to new equipment. So I asked the station engineer if they had any CRT's they were getting rid of, and he offered me a PVM-20L5.

Some people claim the BVM's are superior to the PVM's - I'm not sure, because I don't have a BVM, but my opinion based on the specifications I've read in Sony's manuals is that the PVM and BVM are the same quality but BVM's have more expansion cards for extra inputs and outputs, and also have some more advanced controls.

>>2569151
not the anon you responded to. are you okay, though? and I'm seriously asking. you seem to be very angry towards someone you don't even know, and it's for making reasonable questions. last I checked, we welcomed beginners and knowledgeable people alike, so I think that's not a very good attitude to have. I'm sorry that you might be having a terrible day, anon. I hope everything gets better soon.

>>2569151
>>2569591
He was probably a bully in elementary school too. Don't worry about it.

That or he thinks he's on /b/ still, and that anonymity means that you can assume no one else has feelings.

>>2569042
Yup. I have a Mitsubishi TV that looks similar, woodgrain with huge ass speakers on the sides. It was my grandma's TV actually.

I use it for all my retro games. Although it's from 1988 it somehow has an S-Video port so I use that. Sure, the picture on a Trinitron or BVM with RGB is miles better, but I imagine it's a much comfier experience to play on my TV.

>>2569612
comfier how? I'm curious.

it's really fun how this thread got wrecked by three letters, BVM.

No seriously - if you're looking for exceptional good CRT why not take the BEST? Get a Sony BVM/PVM, get some RGB cables for your SNES and Genesis and get scart-BNC-cables. Put it on your desk with pride and fire it up - you seriously won't regret it. The scanlines, the vibrant colors, the glowing if you turn up the contrast ... you WILL love it. These monitors are a blessing for every retro gamer. The pinnacle of CRT goodness. Get it. Try it. Love it.

>>2569623
The old wood grain TV's feel like furniture almost. They look great in some rooms :)

I've been thinking about putting my PVM into an old heathkit wood-grain console TV set I have.

>>2569720
I love mine but I can't recommend them if you have to spend more than $150 for one. Maybe it's because mine was free but I think that while it's awesome I don't think it'd be worth shipping if I hadn't gotten it locally.

>>2569720
Because some people have friends and don't want to crowd around a 17" TV.

Inb4 NORMIE REEEEEEEEEE

>>2568786

Most people here, unless they're just casually emulating on their computer, are playing on CRTs. Some on old ones that have been around since they were kids, some on apeture grill Trinitrons, some on high end broadcast monitors, but almost universally on Tube TVs, since that's how these games were intended to be displayed.

>>2569720
Me and my console love playing our retro video games on our new BVM, we couldn't believe the difference in latency compared to our previous LCD screen. We also like how horizontal pixels are being interpolated without any digital filter and the fact that you can adjust the internal ratio (which is the one developers intended their games to be played on) as easily as turning a knob (included with the purchase) which felt really good on our finger tips. It literally saved our relationship and its bulky size helped fill an empty space in our house while giving that "vintage" feeling. Unfortunately we just can't get any sound from it, it is probably a faulty unit. Luckily, we still have our warranty.

>>2569789
It's a little strange that you actually notice the latency. I never have on flatscreens. I think it's what people claim when they want to blame something for them not hitting a button fast enough in a fighting game, but human reaction time is far slower than a couple milliseconds. The lag is only significant for duck hunt and other light gun games.

Also strange that you would talk about the TV like you would talk about a husband or wife.

I am hoping this was meant satirically :p

wait, warranty? ah, so you're kidding/trolling. good. It looks like some parody amazon review.

> decided to pull the trigger and purchase this cable because my Samsung 85 inch 4k HD 3D TV ($40,000 if you are curious, fantastic TV, only had to re-finance my house 4 times and sell a kidne. I only need one so why not right?) just wasn't getting the best with its supplied cable.
>When the product arrived, which it did so in a timely manner (2 days 4 hours 26 minutes 41 seconds) I was surprised at how superb the packaging was. When I released it from its restraints I gently plugged the cable into the required ports.
>This is where I was amazed. The picture looked better than it had before which was already fantastic. Now I could literally touch the characters and feel their pain and happiness in movies (this became a problem in several war movies as my wife took 3 rounds to the chest and in the arm, don't worry she is in ICU being patched up). The audio sounded like that of a cascading waterfall while an ocestral symphany played Beethoven's 7th. I shed tears just thinking about it.
>Now the reason I am giving it an average 3 stars is because of one major issue that may be ,to others, a deal breaker. After 2 weeks of enjoyment the Samsung TV I mentioned earlier and my blue ray player both absorbed the power of this cable to the extent they transformed into fighting robots and have destroyed my beloved house. I am now living in my parents house and lost all my possessions.

>>2569623
Maybe I sound like a hipster fag right now but I find it so comfy when I play on that TV. The warm wood tones, the huge bassy speakers, the slight tinge of imperfection in the image, the incandescent light tinting everything orange, and me sitting on the couch wrapped up in a blanket.

By comparison a BVM is cold, utilitarian hunk of metal on a desk.

>>2569826
It's the retron v pasta.

>>2569832
'Tis true what you say. I compromise with a Panasonic shadow mask broadcast monitor, though.

And giant wood grain speaker cabinets with big bass and nice treble. People never seem to appreciate treble as much as bass, but it's vitally important to me.

>>2569720
Or do what I did, and don't buy stupidly expensive SCART cables plus stupidly expensive adapters for them.

get some old ypbpr RCA cable, and add some RCA jacks to your SNES, with 220uf capacitors inside your SNES between the RGB pins of the multi-av port and the RCA jacks to bring the video level down so it's not too bright. Derive your sync signal from the composite output you can get out of the multi-out port, or add a fourth RCA jack for sync. I added a fourth jack just in case I ever wanted pure sync. Then all you need is four EXTREMELY cheap RCA to BNC adapters. $1.03 apiece - get 5 or 6 so you have more for composite inputs:

http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=104&cp_id=10430&cs_id=1043002&p_id=4121&seq=1&format=2

Way cheaper than buying and importing NTSC RGB SCART cables from the UK when you don't even have a SCART TV.

With the exception of light gun games, I play all of my games on a 1080p Panasonic Viera Plasma. It's much better looking than an old CRT. My family owned many great CRTs like Sony Trinitrons and Magnavoxes, so I know from decades of experience that my plasma looks much better.

>>2570007
yeah, the panasonics tend to do a good job scaling.

That said, why the fuck do you do this instead of getting a _nice_ trinitron?

Not all trinitrons are good. And post-philips Magnavox is bad. I should know - Magnavox used to be HQ'd in Fort Wayne, Indiana - I live there. Saw LOTS of magnavoxes.

Fuck BVM snobs. Shadow mask is where it's at, non intrusive scan lines and perfectly affordable.

>>2570059
No offense, m8, but your shadow mask looks like shit.

Here's what a good shadow mask looks like.

>>2570059
I never ever understood why all emulators had a "scanlines" filter on them, probably because all the TVs I've ever used had shadow masks.

I have to look at the screen from a few centimeters to actually see scanlines for a console game, and it's only immediately apparent on games that directly switch between 240p and 480i inbetween two screens.

>>2570079
you can see scanlines on good shadow masks.
see >>2570076

and on 27 inch (less good) consumer sets, you can see it further away than that.

>>2570059
Jesus, that looks terrible.

>>2570086
What's your opinion of mine? ( >>2570076 )
P.S. it's a panasonic BT-H1390YN 14 inch monitor.

>>2570076
Pretty sure we're comparing apples and oranges here. For one, your TV seems to be over 28" easy because your scan lines are hella huge, and I can't even make out individual phosphor dots so you're definitely using another mask than mine (like a tri-dot or something).

>>2570096
mine's 14 inch. You're 200% wrong.

>>2570086
It's just the pic, it's actually really nice. The TV may have had its days so there may be a little of channel bleeding, but it's definitely sharp. Pic related is another set I own.

>>2570089
>14 inch monitor

Welp, totally missed the inches, but it is a monitor and not a general consumer TV so fuck you.

>>2569909
I'm waiting for Analogue to do their SNES version of the NT.

>>2570096
next to my PVM-20L5, apple IIe composite monitor, and a consumer 27A42 toshiba 27 inch set.

>>2570140
welp it displays TV signals and was used in a TV station for 10 years so it is a TV, but it's better than the shit you use that they label as a 'consumer tv' when it doesn't meet specs, so fuck you.

I wouldn't be swearing at you if you had just been polite about it.

>>2570141
oh god, you do realize they kill poor defenseless famicoms to get the chips for their abominations?

it's not so easy to do it with a SNES since the chips are surface mount. Did they say they were going to? If so, I'd better start getting super famicoms to save them from those shit-eaters.

>>2570140
>>2570059
PS my consumer Apple composite screen is also better than that ;)

>>2570156
It was a kind of ironic fuck you, s-sorry if I hurt your feelings.

Anyway they're just different. I don't like thick scan lines up close. Every other TV I owned (including a consumer Trinitron) looked exactly the same so I guess they don't sell your kind where I live.

>>2570159
Yes, I do realize that. It's great that they're using original components. They're not exactly scarce.

>hoarding consoles in a vain attempt to prevent a company from using them
>priorities
Yeah, they're the shit-eaters...

I play on a 2007-ish CRT with S-Video and Component inputs. The sad thing is that it doesn't support 480p. I want to find one in the same size range (27") that has S-video and component and also does 240p/480i/480p without breaking a sweat.

I also play new games, but those I play on either my PC monitor or on an LCD HDTV.

>>2570162
See, that's what I'm talking about, I fail to see how that could look better, aesthetics aside. It's really similar to how mine display things.

>>2570181
You have poor posting style, particularly in your use of ellipses in typed messages. I suggest lurking more to see how proper posting is done on this board.

As for your post content, I don't agree with the idea of destroying classic systems (a finite and constantly disappearing resource) for the sake of a new product. They should take better steps toward recreating the original hardware instead of preying upon a limited resource like classic hardware. Personally, I worry about what they do with the old console shell, controllers, and other components after they remove the boards. I hope that they do something responsible with them.

>>2570141
Weren't the NES ones overpriced scams that were a bitch to insert/extract games and eventually worn cartridge plastic? You shouldn't give a dime to those killers.

>>2570013
Because the colors and brightness are miles better than a new CRT of any brand let alone one where the tube and therefore picture have decayed for decades.

I still use my made in japan sony triniton 42in for light gun games. My phillips era magnavox was sold years ago for $20.

>>2570194
better scanlines despite the low quality of this shadow mask by today's standards - it was VERY nice in 1987, years before I bet yours was even made. And don't forget this is a COMPOSITE signal.

>>2570241
you didn't see my panasonic tube, did you?
>>2570076
If that doesn't look good to you it's very clearly a bias.

>>2568786
I have a kd30xs955, but it's 1700 miles away at my dad's house and weighs half a ton. I use this cheap Korean 1440p thing now.

>>2570162
dude your room is fucking trash

tbh you should clean up before taking a picture

>>2570253
>clearly a bias
don't forget his monitor calibration might be shit. That'd also explain it.

>>2570201
Cool! I'm not concerned with any of that. Your "critique" of my posting style is both empty and makes you look like someone who's desperate to undermine someone you apparently see as an opponent.

>>2570212
According to a single review, yes!

>>2570264

>OH MY GOD HE SOLDERS THINGS AND THAT'S THE BOARD HE DID HIS AV MOD ON. KILL IT WITH FIRE FOR NOT BEING SURGICALLY CLEAN LIKE MY GIRLFRIEND'S WOMB AFTER I GOT FINISHED WITH IT
>I MEAN WUT

>>2570212
yeah, the HDMI thing is okay but they cannibalize innocent original systems and put everything on an overpriced board. It's better than famiclones in that it uses a real CPU and PPU, but also worse in that it uses a real CPU and PPU and they don't grow on trees.

Also, I'd never pay for a clone what I could pay for an original.

>>2570268
You're only encouraging the final solution to kill defenseless famicoms. Soon, like Jews in Nazi Germany, they will be.

>>2569592
BVM are a whole step up bro, especially with geometry/alignment

>>2570249
Pic refuses to load for some reason and I don't feel like saving it but it's not really fair since I can't make those hi-quality pics you guys are showing off and mine are from a couple years ago. My scan lines are alright, and even though composite does a little muffling on them the difference is mostly horizontal.

>>2570279
I can't stand these nostalgia addicted brats that think consoles have some sort of right to crumble away or stay broken.

>>2570279
Nothing lasts forever
>innocent
>defenseless
They're just pieces of plastic and silicon. Try not to form emotional bonds with something that isn't alive.

>>2568786
I saw this on craigslist today

>>2570162
>ruining a cart just so you can stick it in a famicon

>>2570296
>carts are super sacred
Just fuck off.

>>2570284
yes. your point?
you do need a 'remote' for a lot of things.
>>2570292
gingers don't have souls, so I bet you'd exterminate them too. You want history destroyed for your own greed.

>>2570290
>>2570292
Try not to be a bunch of shills and mod your own Famicoms if you're adamant about RGB. I can kinda get behind the idea behind flash carts, but consoles need to be left alone and surely not resold as some sort of modern frankenbrothel.

>>2570310
>please don't cut up famicoms to make new machines!
>oh but cut them up for mods! that's okay!
Make up your mind.

>>2570286
composite cannot muffle vertically. tv signals work in horizontal lines; blurring you get is because the electron beam isn't focused properly and is hitting more phosphors than it should. Any vertical blur you have is purely your TV's fault.

>>2570310
you just quoted two opposing viewpoints, but reading again I see what you mean, and the other guy is wrong.

>>2570319
>oh but cut them up for mods! that's okay!

Who cares, it's your own personal machine. But don't go buying hundreds of them so you can mass resell them (for 10x their original price) as a travesty.

>>2570310
>consoles need to be left alone
Or, OR, people need to stop getting so pissy over what other people do with their resources. "Modding" a Famicom is still a defacement of your precious, precious endangered species and, spoiler alert, they'll still be around long after you're gone.

>frankenbrothel
wut

>>2570319
original hardware with upgrades at least doesn't involve taking something that works (an old famicom board), harvesting chips, and putting them on a new board that does EXACTLY THE SAME THING, and selling it for more than the original console cost NEW.

>>2570305
>you do need a 'remote' for a lot of things.
no i don't

>>2570337
Yeah, sorry. But if they were just using broken units then nobody would be complaining, don't you think? It's clearly not the case here.

>>2570342
Whoever buys the hardware--whether 1 or 100--it's now "their personal machines" to do with what they wish, and no one's going to refrain from doing what they wish because you've decided it's Wrong.

>who cares
for Christ's sake, practice what you preach.

>>2570345
if you mod your famicom you dont typically give it a new case and fancy black solder mask and new controller ports. You typically put a small hole in the famicom so you can continue using it in as close to it's original form as possible.

>>2570342
Care about your own personal machine rather than grieving for machines you, or others, wouldn't use.

>>2570361
"Typically" doesn't make it Right, and thus atypical doesn't make it Wrong. Live with it, because it's happening whether you like it or not.

think of it this way:
for every one of these abominations sold, a famicom shell and its controllers sit in pieces, unloved and unplayed with, in a landfill somewhere , where it will oxidize and sit buried in shit for centuries, forgotten.

>>2570359
>Whoever buys the hardware--whether 1 or 100--it's now "their personal machines" to do with what they wish, and no one's going to refrain from doing what they wish because you've decided it's Wrong.

Your argument falls the moment they decide to completely, utterly destroy Famicoms for whatever reason (maybe they just hate Nintendo). All of this is justified because the power of kickstarter money granted them moral rights to do so save for the units that needed shipping.

>>2570363
What about people who DON'T have their personal machine? You're giving them less chance to access an adulterated (possibly cheap) form of the console they want. It's a matter of principles.

>>2570391
regardless of any of these abominations being sold, famicoms and their controllers get thrown out, unloved and unplayed with, into a landfill somewhere , where it will oxidize and sit buried in shit for centuries, forgotten.
:/

>>2570395
>What about people who DON'T have their personal machine? You're giving them less chance to access an adulterated (possibly cheap) form of the console they want. It's a matter of principles.
Then they can either seek out the famicom they want, make an emulator box, or buy one of these unholy abominations and be perfectly happy with themselves.

>>2570401
>access an adulterated
Fuck, meant unadulterated.

>>2570369
i was using a literary device which you ignored. I'll rephrase that for the cretins.

When you make a new console and in the process steal parts from another working console, you are not 'modding' the original console. You are removing from it.

When you add composite or RGB to your famicom, you are ADDing to it, and after you are done the original still works,and in fact works better than before.

>>2570406
I picked up on the intent, you're good bro.

>>2570398
correction: they go to an electronics recycler where someone like me rescues them. Otherwise I rescue it, realize some asshole made an overpriced and glorified NES and in the process ruined this one, and am left with no choice but to send it off into the recycler again because someone was an asshole.

>>2570423
>a scavenger getting beaten to the target by a predator

for the price they go for someone should have implemented the CPU and PPU on a FPGA and let the famicoms live. Kevin Horton (kevtris) already has made a FPGA NES.

>>2570428
>scavenger beaten by predator
*conservationist beaten by capitalism and big business

>>2570391
>I think Toy Story is a documentary

>>2570296
>not knowing what a NES to Famicom adapter is
>not knowing this is a repro cart with holes for EPROMs made out of a cheap as fuck baseball game

>>2570451
I think it's what happens and it's very sad.

>>2570395
>Your argument falls the moment they
No, son, it doesn't. They buy it, they can do whatever they want with it, even if you don't like it. Your "moral rights" have no authority over theirs.

>>2570408
I honestly think that you're trying to pass off an autocorrect as a "literary device." I recognize the difference between modding existing hardware and using it to construct something else; I don't recognize one as more or less honorable/morally correct than the other.

>>2570249
>Composite
>feature

what a fucking idiot you are

>>2570467
what I hear is:
>Punching a guy and knocking him out is not more or less morally correct than chopping him into eight pieces with a blunt axe and scattering him in the woods where no one will find him.

>>2570470
>you're a fucking moron for saying composite is a feature

no. I'm pointing out how good it looks for what it is. and it beats what I'm comparing with which also used composite.

>>2570440
But then all the hipster fags who buy that shit would complain how it's "not authentic"

>>2570496
You hear that because you're delusional. We're talking about old video game consoles, nothing more. I would never attempt to equate the "morals" of how you treat computer hardware with how you treat a person, and I'm not sure why you are.

>>2570496
i believe this would work better if I had compared surgery to replace a kidney with decapitating a guy with an axe and scattering him in the woods.

>>2570512
i bet you microwave hamsters because they aren't people.

>>2570449
>conservationalist
They're not endangered.

>>2570496
>and it beats what I'm comparing with which also used composite

T-Those were RGB shots. ;_;

Your pics weren't just made with a potato. Being able to manually set focus would give a huge improvement.

>>2570519
I believe this is the first time I have ever seen maniac mansion referenced on /g/.

>>2570523
but he said the composite was blurring his images.

>>2570523
p.s. I did not manually set focus.

>>2570519
You're just going to keep on making faulty comparisons and wild accusations all night, aren't you? Sad.

>>2570541
You know what's sadder? These famicoms worked right up until they were cannibalized.

>>2570531
It was me, and it's quite obvious composite blurs the signal because. And I also said composite makes blank scan lines harder to notice (on my smaller TV) maybe because of the TV itself which has a very strange deal with RGB/composite contrast so it gives a bigger glow, lighting up the black spots.

>>2570556
>because.

Brain stopped working, see you guys.

>>2570552
And now the new thing they were incorporated into works awesome! :D

Cry yourself to sleep, why dont'cha.

>>2570552
It's a fucking toy computer box. Jesus Christ, you queerhawk. Calm the fuck down.

>>2570452
There's still destroying a cart involved.

Okay look it's like this.
It's destroying our heritage and history as gamers. ISIS right now is out destroying ancient artifacts and ruins, those things are lost, forever. These people are going around destroying perfectly working Famicoms, pieces of our hobby's history, removing them forever.

This is not okay.

>>2570635
>Comparing destruction of some electronics to destruction of stuff with actual historical value

Are you autistic to a supreme degree?

>>2570635
Ancient artifacts are one-of-a-kind.

1980's gaming consoles were mass-produced by the millions.

>>2570635
>perfectly working
citation needed

>removing them forever
more like putting them in a new and improved shell

You act like these things are going to live on forever if they remain untouched. They won't. Everything goes bad eventually.

>>2570556
>It's quite clear composite blurs the signal because.
Because why?
>>2570560
>Brain stopped working, see you guys.
Ahh. That explains it.
>>2570590
>the thing that 10% of the famicom was put into works :D
>yah, but now the other 90% of the famicom that akready existed doesn't anymore, and all that is gained is more in the landfill while people buy a shitty frankenstein monster instead of the real thing.
>>2570689
citation needed? Okay.
If the famicom was fried none of the parts would work. Most of the old famicoms they used had working parts but were physically worn - ugly controller decals and the like. so instead of making new decals for the controllers they decided "why not trash them?"

I heard this from Kevin Horton (kevtris) who made the HDMI NES mod that these shits use, a few weeks ago on nesdev.

>>2570689
>everything goes bad eventually
including your new expensive shell and the CPU and PPU you pay these graverobbers to disturb. I say graverobbers because they were sitting and doing nothing at the time - however I have bought quite a few famicoms in such shape and know that others do too.

>>2570730
Except the shitty Frankenstein monster performs better than the original did. I enjoy progress.

>>2570738
Yeah, but while it still works, I'll enjoy a superior Famicom/NES experience. It'll likely outlive me, too.

>>2570730
>There is NOTHING in between "perfectly working" and "totally fried"

>>2570730
>shitty frankenstein monster
It does what the famicom does and apparently a lot of things better in regards to video/audio.

>>2570689
>>2570681
>>2570674
this guy is not me. the following are:
>>2570552
>>2570519
>>2570391
Just want to make it clear there are at least two crazies here.

>>2570758
That's odd because all those posts were mine.

>>2570750
audio is THE SAME.
You can RGB mod a famicom and get identical video quality, or HDMI mod any nintendo if you were going to pay extra for this shit.
No reason to support people who destroy history.

>>2570761
that's odd because you're a lying shithead who is abusing anonymity to stir up triuble. Go kill yourself, but first sodomize yourself with a rusty stake.

>>2570763
Well gee I'm still hacking apart my famicom. Thanks I guess??

>>2570768
trouble*

>>2570758
>>2570761
>>2570768
Christ, samefagging to kill a discussion you don't like? Really?

>>2570772
but it beats throwing 90% of it in a landfill. You're welcome.

>>2570780
>He thinks any NES not being made into an NT is spared from the dump

Also, those NES RGB components have to come from somewhere. How dare you destroy Nintendo arcade history, you MONSTER.

>>2570780
As covered it's not a massive improvement except to satiate some emotional attachment to electronics.

>>2568943
>>2568965
>>2569043
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>>2569129
Sigh....... and here I thought this place was more mature than /v/. Smh... really disappointed me today /vr/.

>>2570816
Don't bring this /v/ shitposting over, really?

Thanks for shitting up and ruining a perfectly good discussion with your console preservationist bullshit, whoever you are.

This place gets shittier every day.

>>2568786

My gram had a tv like that

>>2570846
This bastion was built on a foundation of shit. It was inevitable.

>>2568786
I play on my big sisters iphone

>>2570745
>superior famicom/nes experience

Can't even be called a famicom or NES because it's not from nintendo

>>2570612
This might as well be a /vr/ pasta. It applies to 99% of posts here.

>>2570528
You're not on /g/.

But you're correct in realizing the reference that the other two replies didn't.

>>2569592
>Both are for viewing TV signals
Erroneous. The lack of tuners are the key difference between monitors and televisions. You mean "video signals"

I'm still using the old Amiga monitor I found on craigslist for 15 bucks. The RGB on it made very very happy.

Can't you people be more nice?