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2554273 No.2554273 [Reply] [Original]

The '90s teemed with wretched fighting games which tried and failed to live up to their successful cohorts, so let's get started.

I'll start with an infamous fighting game for an even more infamous console: "Fight for Life" for the Atari Jaguar. The salient feature of Fight for Life's near unplayability is Atari's abysmal business model. Atari ran their business intransigently since the '80s and got away with it until penance was finally due in the '90s. When they weren't supporting their own developers, they were witholding payments to their programmers.

Atari contracted Francois Bertrand, a former programmer for Sega's AM2, to develop a fighting game which highlighted the console's touted 64-bit capabilities. The game faced numerous delays, including redesigns and storyline revisions, all worsened by Atari's refusal to lift a single finger to support its development. Once Atari withheld payments to their employees, including Bertrand, the straw broke the camel's back. Disgruntled, he intentionally submitted a poorly-developed beta for commercial release to spite his employers. Still, Bertrand himself marketed his product as superior to even Battle Arena Toshinden, a claim even Atari's own testers didn't believe.

Curiously, Bertrand kept a "beta" version which, once completed, he intended to release commercially. Allegedly, that version was screened to reviewers prior to its release. 2012 saw its entry into the world with 20+ copies produced and sold to Jaguar enthusiasts. Although vastly inferior to every 3D fighting game of its time, it's allegedly far more playable than its commercial counterpart.

The commercial version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LijAQJgRDoI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpEGIlAbn7E

The beta:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQb1pLMSSGU

And, if you're feeling masochistic, you can buy the game's source code:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Fight-for-Life-Source-Code-Atari-Jaguar-new-/140954289867

>> No.2554275

is that gulie fighting machete on the cover

>> No.2554286

>>2554273
Every game on the Atari Jaguar was one of the worst games of all time except Tempest.

>> No.2554291

Mortal Kombat

>> No.2554298

>>2554291
He said worst game not good game

>> No.2554313

i like to think every console has at least one good game on it.

>> No.2554327

Body Blows
Brudal Baddle
Brutal: Paws of Fury

Seeing a pattern here.

>> No.2554328

>>2554298
Mortal Kombat is the worst fucking fighting game I've ever played. I've never understood how anybody was able to enjoy them except because they happened to be 12 year olds who thought playing games with superficial violence made them mature.

I've played generic no-name Japanes ecchi girl fighters that were more playable than anything form the MK series.

>> No.2554351

>>2554328
the reboot actually is pretty good

>> No.2554358
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2554358

>>2554328

It seems you haven't played much games in your life if you think MK is the worse title around. Try playing shit like Heavy Nova or Slaughter Sport and come back to me with a straight face telling MK is the worse fightan you ever saw.

>> No.2554374

>>2554358
Just looked up a video of that. Holy fuck is that stiff.

>> No.2554404

>>2554327

I owned, played and enjoyed Brutal: Paws of Fury as a kid. I'm really unsure why everyone says it's shitty, but as a kid who owned Street Fighter 2 and Mortal Kombat 1/2, I was mostly spamming buttons anyway and not really doing any special moves or anything in those other games, so it probably felt similar. I would probably see it differently if I were to go back and play it, but I no longer have that cartridge.

I think I might emulate it.

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2554447

>>2554328
>Confirmed for not being old enough/born to remember MK in its prime.

Is hating on MK a new meme or something? Some youtube "gamer" telling the kiddies that MK was terrible?

No one is going to argue that MK is one of the best fighters but it sure as hell is a lot of fun. If you think it's the worst then you haven't played too many fighters.

>> No.2554471

It's an easy target, but Shaq Fu. What a fucking awkward game. Also the first Street Fighter, although that's because it's so fucking primitive

>> No.2554474

>>2554447
Watchmojo put it on a new list of overrated games or something, and everyone takes their awful, badly researched shit as the word of god.

>> No.2554485

>>2554471

WHAT STRENGHT!! BUT DON'T FORGET THERE ARE MANY GUYS LIKE YOU ALL OVER THE WORLD

>> No.2554507

>>2554273
Worst that I can recall:
>History of the Martial Arts
>Double Dragon
>Martial Champion

>> No.2554517

The Battle Arena Toshinden series

>> No.2554520

>>2554273
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyOsaKDHBjQ

>> No.2554539

Am I wrong for remembering Eternal Champions as being boring and generic? Not bad, per se, just not really worth it.

>> No.2554625

>>2554539
The upgrade Eternal Champions: Challenge from the Darkside is leagues above the Genesis version. That game is a lost gem.

>> No.2554647
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2554647

Anyway, another contender for worst fighting game ever made: S.H.A.D.O.W. War of Succession, often considered the single worst digitized fighting game ever made.

The game's plot focuses on the criminal organization known as the Syndicate of Hate, Anarchy, Destruction, and Organized Warfare, a name even a freshman writer assigned his first creative story would've rejected. The game opens with a laughably underbudgeted CGI gunship flying through New York City towards a penthouse and opens fire on the building, killing its single occupant revealed to be Kincaid Storm, leader of the SHADOW crime syndicate. A static image with scrolling text later informs us, "police refuse to speculate on the cause of the explosion" (yes, the game expects you to believe the police couldn't figure out a gunship flying through America's most populated city's airspace launched an assault on a high rise penthouse). With Storm dead, his remaining lieutenants must fight to the death to reclaim the organization.

Allegedly, programmers were greatly behind schedule, and the attempt to program fatalities would lead to the game crashing upon execution, so they were absconded for the commercial release. Despite the game playing like a poorly developed Beta, an alleged programmer under the name TheMadViper stated, "Yes, it was created by a bunch of guys who knew nothing about making video games and they laughed all the way to the bank after selling it. They were actually one of the very few game developers that made a profit that year!"
"That's exactly what it was. We didn't know what the hell we were doing and did not get much support from 3DO either. Yeah, the game stank, but we didn't fail. It made money."

And there you have it, folks. The story of the worst digitized fighter ever made:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBWTQlz46aw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjUOeGz7vOo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUVmTAZKoHc

Side note: at least the game cover looks decent.

>> No.2554662

The boss fights in Adventures of Little Ralph. Bullshit and unfun.

>> No.2554745
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2554745

Need I say more?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGMweIPjhGE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu8k-yjFhFM

The 16-bit console ports are even worse:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-uO5-kzQfk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PRvr-VsNLc

>> No.2554779

>>2554662
They're pretty easy to cheese, though. At least the main 95% is some of the best 2D platforming on the PS.

>> No.2555961

>>2554507
Martial Champion isn't half bad. Just very generic.

>> No.2555973

What was the name of the Jaguar fighting game that has a Scotsman who lifted up his kilt and shot fireballs or some shit from under it?

>> No.2555990

>>2555973
Kasumi Ninja.

>> No.2555993

천하무적 Cheonha Mujeok.

Terrible PC game courtesy of Worst Korea.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=AhGVGWK-fJE

>> No.2556063
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2556063

Seriously Apogee what the fuck

>> No.2556601

>>2556063
MEAT!

>> No.2556858

>>2554286
Nah, it had some decent games, including a pretty good port of Doom (sans the music though, which I consider a big minus).

It's just that the hardware was very difficult to develop a game for if you wanted to utilize it's full potential (the 'Tom & Jerry' processors not liking to cooperate with each other), meaning few people bothered, leading to a small library. And as OP mentioned, Atari were acting like a bunch of fuckers.

The Jaguar could have been a good system if a few things were different, instead of the "Nnnyeeeh not really that great" system with poor 3rd party support which it actually was.

>> No.2556863

>>2554328
MK might not be one of my favorites but you can't ever have played a lot if fighting games if you think it's the worst.

>> No.2557003

>>2554447

People have been hating on MK for years.

>> No.2559729
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2559729

The number of people who HAVEN'T said Dangerous Streets is revolting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kH0gnPQndEI

>> No.2559734

>>2559729
This is awesome.

>> No.2559736

>>2559729
Oh my god haven't laughed this much in a while.

>> No.2559778

>>2559729
That might well bet the most depressing thing I've ever watched. What made them go with such melancholic music?

>> No.2559779

>>2559729

Shit makes Shaq Fu looks like 3rd Strike

>> No.2559793

>>2559778
Is this better?

https://youtu.be/VejTF27dcp4?t=58

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2559814

>>2559793

>not Arnie and not Hogan
>first match
>that idle animation
>fucking 'Llorando se fue' as background music

This is the best thing ever, I'm crying

>> No.2559818

>>2559793
IT'S THE FUCKING LAMBADA
https://youtu.be/phyC9rzjpPQ

>> No.2559913

What do you guys think about time killers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RfK7Vhas2U

>> No.2559924

>>2559793
>Is this better?
Yes anon. That was quite the experience.

>> No.2560108

>>2559913
Time Killers is fun. It's not good by conventional fighting game standards, but it's fun and playable.

Bloodstorm was a convoluted mess.

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2562154

>>2559793
How is this the same person?

>> No.2562259
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2562259

Spitting Image

>> No.2562267
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2562267

Guardian Angel, aka Freddy Hardest in South Manhattan

>> No.2562268
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2562268

KickIt - A Day For The Laiban

>> No.2562280
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2562280

Metal Kombat
(apparently the music is good though)

>> No.2562282
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2562282

>>2562154
welcome to the weird world of korean arcade games

>> No.2562285
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2562285

Metal: A Robot Combat Simulation

>> No.2562292
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2562292

>ctrl+f
>pitfighter

disappointed in you, /vr/

>> No.2562295
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2562295

Street Gang

>> No.2562297
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2562297

Street Hassle

>> No.2562298

>>2562292
first off, being angry that some one didn't mention some well known "bad" game is stupid
second off, Pit Fighter is a masterpiece compared to the other games in this thread.

>> No.2562307
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2562307

Franko: The Crazy Revenge!

>> No.2562309
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2562309

>>2560108
>Bloodstorm was a convoluted mess.

I can't hate Bloodstorm because the designs in that game were so shitty they were hilarious. Really love those weapons that are obviously just photoshopped images of their office supplies.

>> No.2562316

>>2562307
actually, in the context of a satire game, which it's meant as, it's actually pretty amazing.

>> No.2562332

I'm surprised to nobody remember this piece of crap

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8Pb9RPYONg

>> No.2562346
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2562346

Fallen Angel

>>2562316
I didn't play it but it's by the same dudes as Street Hassle, which has sloppy controls. That's the one thing that has to flawless in a fighting game. Especially for a commercial release (which their games were).

>> No.2562368
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2562368

Rise of the Robots
oh god so bad
I remember looking for used games for the 3DO as a kid and seeing this and thinking it must be amazing.
Robots fighting!
Sweet graphics!
Holy shit soundtrack by Brian May!!?

so fucking terrible, and the multiplayer makes no sense since player one is stuck as generic robot man while player 2 can pick whoever they want. Who the fuck designed this piece of shit game?

>> No.2562393

>>2559729
any rule 34 on her?

>> No.2562402

>>2562368
dear lord, nothing about this advertisement makes any sense, like who the hell thought "let's compare the game to the brady bunch, that's a great idea despite the fact they are in no way related"

>> No.2562517
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2562517

>>2562402
90s was a shit time for vidya advertisements in general. They were either stupid stuff like that or tried their hardest to gross you out.

>> No.2562519

>>2562292
idk man Pit Fighter is pretty playable, ive had a lot of great times with friends playing this game. It feels laid back and fun after playing something like KoF and/or Street Fighter

>> No.2562525

>>2562517
i like how the actual game is just a tiny square in the bottom right corner. But in all honesty id rather have advertisements like this over pre rendered cgi movie trailer bullshit that doesnt even show gameplay that they use nowadays.

>> No.2565291

>>2562393
No.

>> No.2565295

>>2554286
For a Mortal Kombat clone, Ultra Vortek was actually decent. Far from great, but not the worst.

Of course, the shills at Game Informer made it out to be infinitely worse than it was.