/vr/ - Retro Games

>SNES
>limitations

Paula / jeff earthbound

I can't find any actual concept art from the first SMB, but in the cover she had brown hair, then on the anime adaptation they set her final appearance with blonde hair and that carried into later concept art/games. I don't think it's a stylistic choice as much as a color contrast issue. Same for pink hair Link (Zelda 1/2 Link had brown hair in reference material, while ALttP Link became blonde).

>>2540870

No, there is official art for SMB1 with her having blonde hair.

>>2541171
Cool, mind posting it? I didn't find anything.

>>2540795
Well, the NES' color palette has no true yellow, the closest thing available is orange
No such limitation on the SNES though. Maybe blonde hair just wasn't very hip during that time?

>>2540795
super sonic is entirely yellow/white

>>2540795
Dobson pls

>>2541291
/thread

Is this bright enough?

>>2541535
Believe it or not, this game even had a sequel!

>>2541551
Yep, he's blond.

>>2541561
In some cases the platform can make a difference. This is Astro Marine Corps on Amstrad CPC.
The C64 and ZX Spectrum colors aren't as bright and vivid. For some reason the Amiga port has darker hair though.

>>2541580
Amiga version for comparison. Only 32 colors possible, so they probably use the same dark yellow elsewhere...

Brightest hair yet!
Too bad it's kind of a boring game though...

>>2541605
The valkyrie is a blonde (she's viking right?)

Suitless Samus is blonde when you have missiles selected in original Metroid, and in the ending of SM.

>>2541561
You know when you're just looking at retro adventure game screens then you find one and say "Damn, that's some fine background". Well this is it. Is this game available on DOS? The 320x200 outline tells me so. Can you tell me more about the game?

>>2541610
Yep, another blonde.

>>2540795
>If you look at the original Mario Kart, Princess Toadstool's hair color could be considered brownish blonde.
The same is true if you look at her artwork. It wasn't consistent, but her hair was often presented as dirty blonder or strawberry blonde. It certainly wasn't bright YELLOW as it is now.

>Bright yellow hair just doesn't look good on those old school pixel sprites.

It doesn't look good on anything, to be honest.

>>2540795
>>2541640
The same could be said of Link; in LTTP artwork his hair was neither brown nor "yellow" blonde, but something in between. Why pink of all things was used is a mystery for the ages, since palette limitations certainly wasn't the reason.

>>2541620
It's Altered Destiny:
http://hol.abime.net/3253

You're in luck because there seems to be a DOS port. The graphics are pretty close too (Amiga version has slightly more detail).

I haven't played it so dunno about the story, but the screens sure look nice.

It would be cool if scummvm could run this game, but I don't see it listed anywhere.

Wonder Boy

>>2541647
Doesn't matter, I grew out of ScummVM anyway and only use DOSBox when I have to play something DOS related.

The graphics for this game are really odd though. They're dithered like its Amiga counterpart but they don't seem to use the standard EGA palette, and if they're not using EGA why the heck would you leave the dithering or make the Amiga version look better and have twice the colors?

I mean, it could be the first EGA game I've seen to push the hardware to its limits and that's a really cool feat in itself, but I wanted the graphics to look like the Amiga version. I'm really tented in reinstalling WinUAE but I don't have the ROMs anymore and I don't even think I'll be able to find this game :(

She's blonde too.

>>2541668
Ooh wow, just noticed game screens have 300 horizontal pixels instead of 320. This might have been some slick hack to fit a couple more colors into video memory. I'll go check it out.

>>2541668
It's kind of weird because the "Conversion" page on HOL says that that DOS version runs in VGA rather than EGA. But I dunno any of the technical details about the various EGA/VGA modes.

Anyway if you want to try the Amiga version you probably just need the Kickstart 1.3 ROM. That's pretty easy to find with google.

OTOH, the game spans 6 floppies, so would be better to install it to HD first. That means you'll also need to download Workbench 1.3 and make a HD image. A bit more work than just running the other version in dosbox. If you want to go through all that trouble, you can easily find the floppies via this search engine:
http://www.oldgamesfinder.com/
Make sure to search for "Amiga Games (ADF)" because the "HD" stuff is normally WHDL stuff (aka WHDload, a stupid shareware program that requires a key).

>>2541724
Thank you, whenever I have the time I'll try to run the Amiga version. I have yet to start the DOS version because I had some setting up to do.

I don't really think it's VGA though, just some kind of advanced (perhaps undocumented?) EGA mode.

>>2541675
Him too...

>>2541815
Can't forget this guy either!

>>2541782
Welp, it's just an enhanced VGA mode, as opposed to an EGA like VGA mode which just uses the regular 16 colors.

It's also in 320x200, no undocumented screen modes or whatever. It's okay I guess. Many EGA games should've supported VGA this way.

>>2541641

His hair was made pink to make the sprite 'pop' and so the colours didn't blend with dungeons and stuff, ensuring you always know where you are. If you play a hacked version with the colour normalized you can see where they were coming from.

>>2541641

You're constantky walking on green and brown tiles. It was made pink to stand out better.

Also, don't forget: these games we're any to be played on CRTs, where the colors bleed together and look diferent

>>2542384
>You're constantky walking on green and brown tiles. It was made pink to stand out better.
In that case, why did they make a relatively small part of the body pink and the majority of the sprite green? How would yellow hair not have stood out against the backgrounds?

>>2542480
Not the same guy, but maybe they decided that pink would stand out better in certain places ie. the dark world.

>>2541291
>Luigi leading the princess to safety while Mario just fucks around.
A true hero. Such a shame his heroics are all attributed to his showoff brother.

The heroine and most of her people (her wife is brunette, though)

>>2542618
Mario clearly handed Toadstool off to Luigi and is leading the Koopa Klan away from them, putting himself in grave danger. It's a shame true heroes never get the credit they deserve due to common jealousy and cynicism.

>>2541180

I know the Mario Wikia should have some