/vr/ - Retro Games

>>2481128
>Also, it's quite possible to have doubles, I just got another Therese.
Yeah, you can get multiples because it's possible for characters to die through LP kill or be sacrificed to upgrade buildings (that kind of shocked me the first time I did it - I was under the impression they were just leaving for a short time while building)

>>2481303
Yeah, well it's a good way to deal with all the minor character in RomaSaGa 2, all the pallette swaps of the originals or more famous characters are a nice way of making currency.
I can see them making the same things with GB SaGa characters when they'll introduce them since they're basically generics with the exception of SaGa 3.
I'm a bit bothered by the weapon types though, so far it seems the weapon equipped is random, I got Cat with fists, and Thomas and Tatyana with maces.
Also, 20 characters slots are way too few for the huge cast we're getting.
I wonder if killed or sacrificed characters retains their stats, it would be hell if they didn't, especially since James, Emerald and Cat have lost one LP already in my game.

>>2481314
is lp not regained from resting? also is there any downside to picking the option of quickly waking someone up from rest? the currency didn't seem to go down.

>>2481316
There's no way to regen lp, and instant rest is the 5 things you get when you level up
And my game works now

>>2481314
I think this one says that it increases character limit

So what are your first verdicts on Imperial? Yay or nay?

I still can't pass the 3 stars quest in the Naj desert, guess I'll need to use a party of good characters instead of trying to level up my favorites, Cat lost 2 LP already.

Oh well, My Thomas run was getting kinda boring anyway, got to Ice Galaxy and even there I couldn't spark anything against Cyclpos.
>>2481320
You're right, I didn't check Fullbright's Shop carefully, the only thing I buyed there was Tatyana.
>>2481321
It's eh...
Just eh.
If you like seeing old characters together it's lots of fun and the interactions are nice, but the game is basically stages of rush battles against preset enemies and a final boss, kinda like FFCC.
Most stuff is there, you can spark techs and teach magic but you only have 3 slots for all which is pretty fucking bad honestly.
Stats are simply reduced to HP, SP, ATK, DEF, and Speed making the game kinda flat and boring and obviously making all characters generics in the long run.
You level up like Frontier, all your stats except SP can grow.
Spark rate is fine.
A lot of things on your home base and certain stuff like Magic are almost directly taken from RomaSaGa2.
The Shop is like most browser games shop, everything costs too much and certain things can only be bought there.
Character recruitment happens in either 3 different types of draws, one which works on a certain currency used only for that but draws mostly RomaSaGa 2 characters, one works on money but draws slightly better characters and the last one works on a rare item and gives you very good character, like Thomas, Hawke or Elle.
You can even have a chance of finding a character once you finish a quest, I got Karl and Cat by redoing a basic quest, but it's very random and I can't tell you more than that.

It's a nice time waster for fan of the series, but as it is now, it's not really a good game.

Also, just found out.
It seems certain important character have multiple versions.
I got a different version of Jeanne with like, double the starting stats and a Broadsword set instead of a Spear set.

They're pretty much recycling, or even remaking Emperor's SaGa really.
At least there's something else to do other than making runs of old games until the new game comes out, but the game could have been much better.

>>2481331
At least the HD sprites can be reused into a new actual SaGa game in the future if they care for it, I suppose.

I mean, they're not as shit as the Final Fantasy Android port ones

>>2481325
Yeah, fuck this dolphin event, still managed to S rank somehow

Pets

Hello there

THE DRAGON

Nice

>>2481427
Holy shit, talk about premonition.
>>2481449
Karl is so fucking based holy shit, I hope we can get an alternate version of him that doesn't suck ass.
>>2481461
How much LP does Coppelia have?
>inb4 7

>>2481492
5 because LP depends on rank

>>2481503
>5 because LP depends on rank
That's pretty lame, I hoped this wouldn't be the case.
I bet she is even controlled by the player, and on that regard, the fact that I can't choose targets is absolutely fucking retarded.
I was this close to complete the Dolphin quest but died with one enemey left because my party preferred to randomly chip people instead of taking them out one by one.

Never change, Galahad.

>Go on the community page
>Lel, another Kusoge
>The balance in this game is fucking shit
>Did nobody test this game at all? It's so poorly balanced
>I can't fathom why they decided to not let us heal LP


Worst thing is that they're absolutely right.
Japs are pretty mad about the game, I can see heavy rebalance incoming.

God damn, the other 2 buildings are so pointless. One lets you enchance your tech, so you can increase power but lower accuracy and increase SP cost (same when you choose accuracy or SP). Cool, but you have to spend a few hours. The tech learning house is hilarious, since you only have low chance of actually learning and you have to sacrifice people. So I tried to learn a fucking parry, put some character and didn't even have 20% chance. It's a fucking parry you know? Of course, you can buy % chance booster items if you have gold :)

I'm not sure if I will play more, the only thing I can do now is grind, but guess what, there's a stat growth limit! Maybe I should complain more, how about not having and means of healing during quest? No potions or healing magic, anything. You miss too much during battle, really, I use 3 techs on ordinary monster and they all miss. Also, if you decide to withdraw, you lose anything you gained, even sparked techs.

>>2481608
No tech mastery means that you have to spark everything for another character. Not sure why the game wants you to split your characters during quests too.

>>2481616
One more thing, the difficulty jump is too high, 3 star quest wrecks your party completly

>>2481608
Yeah this is all fucking bad.
If you want to have fun go on 2ch and read all the japs sperging about those very same things we mentioned.
>>2481623
>the difficulty jump is too high, 3 star quest wrecks your party completly
This, fucking hell.
There's no way to win those quests with S even with rare characters, I used Minerva, Thomas, Tatyana and Emerald and I got wrecked hard, and the stat growth is so abysmal you can't even grind stats on your characters, who seriously thought getting 1-2 HP more by growth chance is a good idea?
No healing except sleeping at the inn and that atrocious hit rate makes it infuriatingly stupid.

It really looks like nobody even tested the game because it's not even obtuse, it's outright bad.
I'll stop playing and go back to my Thomas run since I can't do anything other than repeating old quests ad libitum, I hope they'll fix the game in the meanwhile since the backlash from the community is huge.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0t4rJWmSEk
Looks like cheating is possible

Also, have a seven heroes battle
http://nico.ayakaze.com/player/sm/sm26519533

It's pretty sad that these bad mobile games are the future of many beloved franchises. I love SaGa but this is awful. Not looking forward to seeing what Capcom does with the new Breath Of Fire.

It's really kind of annoying because I enjoy reading the cutscenes in Imperial, if nothing else.

Still, supposedly Record Keeper (another Square social game) wasn't exactly stellar at the start but is rather decent ATM, so there's room for improvement.

But then again, this has the SaGa name and not the FF name so there's a high chance they might just shut it down and forget about it

Nice engrish there

rekt.jpg

So I kept trying 4-5 stats event, but actual storyline event is only 3 stars

>throwaway browser game looks better than most recent 2D remakes and ports made by Square-Enix

>>2481291
JRPG / WRPG are not genres you moron OP.

>2 Mikhails

I'm about to do the RS2 Komalune scenario to acquire Dark Magic, but is there any real use for said magic type? I don't really care about the Salamanders, but on the other hand I also shudder at having to grind up another magic type level

>>2481314
Wow Tatyana is cute in this.

I almost regret desperately avoiding her in RS3.

Imperial Saga final boss
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm26538098

So how good is Imperial anyway? Is it worth going through the trouble of making a Yahoo jp account?

>>2487128
The answer to your question is already in the topic.

>>2481325
>>2481587
>>2481650

>>2485483
>but is there any real use for said magic type?
Eh, not really since Dark Magic is mostly about status effects, though certain spells can also be quite damaging.
The problem with Dark Magic is that it comes too late in the game to be worth investing time into it, by the time you get it you should already have Light and Earth spells for damage and support so Dark Magic kinda fills the damage+status effect niche.
Certain spells look cool though.
Do not forget that the dungeon you'll get by doing the Dark Magic quest has some very nice loot and money, so at the end of the day it still is kinda better than having Salamanders.
>>2485745
Tatyana is always super QT.
>>2487128
Right now it isn't worth it, if I were you I'd wait for some significant changes in the meta, it's really a huge mess the way it is now, not unplayable but we're almost there.

What does it want from me?

>>2487581
Enter your name
I just pasted some random japanese characters

>>2487582
No Roman letters?

>>2487584
Nope

>>2481291
>being more Wrpg oriented,
Dumbest shit I've read all day.

>>2487604
+1

I think I've kinda hit a dead end in my Thomas run, I'm around 400 HP but I'm not sparking anything since 300 HP or so and as much as Thomas is the best mage in the game I still don't think I have the firepower needed to take down Arakes.

Sharl hits for around 700 at best with an Amen Tomb and Tatyana does more or less the same amount of damage, Muse is still meh and my only real strength except spamming Crack or Soul Freeze with Thomas is Ellen, but she still does barely 1000 at best.

I'm a bit worried, I guess I could do the Vanguard quests to kill some time but if I don't find a way to properly spark some good stuff I'll need to do suicide runs against Arakes until I get something good and that isn't exactly nice.

>>2487587
Is there a way to Regenerate LP?

>>2487723
No

>>2487604
Don't see what's so stupid about that statement.

>>2487821
it's a meme like the psx thing, whenever someone brings up jrpg/wrpg some smartass points out that it isn't an actual genre and derails the thread into a useless discussion

So, it seems Imperial is playing the RomaSaGa 2 plot since Adel dies fighting against death and there's a direct reference to Leon and Gerard after that.

Kinda surprised, he seemed too strong for its own good but I didn't think they would play that card.
Also, Karl's quest was absolutely hilarious.

Im getting this Error when i try to play

Why does everyone recommend Paul over Zhi Lin as an archer in Romancing SaGa 3?

He has 1-2 more speed and con, but she has much higher dexterity, weapon skill growth, willpower, and one more LP.

>>2487853
I think your Emperor "dies" every time the green bar on the top fills up to reference Generational changes in RS2.

Funny thing is, the daily "Battle Quests" don't increment this counter at all.

So I'm doing nothing but those quests until the game gets tweaked to keep Adel around until further notice.

>>2488306
Probably the game's still unstable, everyone is getting that error.
Some 2ch people noticed that it usually comes up at around midnight so it might be a problem related to the whole log in bonuses, but no one knows for sure.
>>2488961
Paul has a much better Spark Table than Zhi Lin and he's also pretty good with swords, he learns stuff like Million Dollars pretty easily.
I prefer Zhi Lin too to be honest, mainl because I don't like Paul's design and unless you fail the Thief Quest on purpose he comes much later in the game compared to Zhi Lin which is a great disadvantage for me.
And Zhi Lin is a QT.
>>2489227
Yeah, it's really like RomaSaGa 2, which is pretty bad because I made Minerva my current Emperor and she's a rare, oh well unless they give you enough money for another draw at the Rare Gacha, but still, I like Minerva a lot even as a character and now I'll get stuck with her inferior clone card.

>>2489659
>Paul has a much better Spark Table than Zhi Lin and he's also pretty good with swords, he learns stuff like Million Dollars pretty easily.
Is that really true? when i did my all-tech run Paul took a realy long time to learn flashing arrow, i switched to Zhi Lin and she learned it in no time. By the time i finished the Leonid quest she already had mastered all arrow skills.

>>2489684
>Is that really true?
Iirc it should, but I'll check things out since you're asking.
>Paul took a realy long time to learn flashing arrow
Doesn't look strange considering I never, ever learned the weirdest things with certain characters that have good spark tables, never learned Tankei with Boston or Skullcrusher with Black for instance.
>By the time i finished the Leonid quest she already had mastered all arrow skills
Good for you, to be honest, in my Harid run two weeks ago she learned all the low and mid waza just by doing the quests Bai Mei Nyang gives.
Though as I said, the rare times I used Paul I always got good stuff like Million Dollars or built in waza very fast.

>>2489686
Some skills are painfully hard to learn even with the supossed "best spark characters" and a lot of RNG is involved. I remember that the two hardest tech to learn in the game for me were both "Swallow hit" and "Orbit borer" with Ellen and Nora.

>>2489695
>"Swallow hit" and "Orbit borer"
Those are pretty damn hard to learn, never saw Orbit Borer in any of my runs.
Also, I never learned Final Letter with Robin, funnily enough, and he's a staple in most of my teams.

Though I guess the prize on impossible sparks goes to RomaSaGa 2, some things are just bloody impossible to learn unless you carefully check all the spark tables.

>>2489698
Orbit borer is really cool, it acts like "Split body" for axes as it does more damage based in your skill points. I remember how Nora sparked it, she is the definitive axe user in my opinion.
Final Letter is not really that strong though, if i remember correctly i sparked it with fat Robin.
I remember that meteoric thrust is also pretty hard to get, but that's probably because i used Muse, she's not really as good as everyone says but i managed to get all the spear techs with her.

I haven't played RS2 but i can imagine it being really hard to spark waza.

>>2489719
>she is the definitive axe user in my opinion.
I have Nora in my Harid run and she's sparked all mace and almost all spear waza, a lot of mikiri and martial arts waza as well, she's kind of a monster really, and with her strength she hits like a truck.
>Final Letter is not really that strong though
But anon, it's all about being cool, otherwise I'd just spam Northern Cross and Matador.
>she's not really as good as everyone says
Muse isn't a great sparker but once she gets over the threshold of 30 SP/JP she grows abnormally fast, and she's also very easy to make into a pure mage considering she's the only character that starts with 0 WP/JP, you need to nurture her though and she's made of glass with that terrible Constitution and 6 LP.
>but i can imagine it being really hard to spark waza.
The problem with sparking in RomaSaGa2 is that not only the base spark rates are much lower than 3, but basically sparking works on two separate tables, one for characters and one for monsters.
Every character in the game has a definite table of what they can spark and unique percentages, that is connected to another table relative to monsters, so every single monster has a table that has additional multipliers for sparking specific waza and that is further added in the bonus table for BR.
It's also very frustrating because a few waza can ONLY be sparked by two or three characters in the entire game so you have to pinpoint them in your generation shifts and use them otherwise you'll never learn waza like Evil Smash or 千手観音 which are pretty strong, not to mention that certain waza are misplaced, Evil Smash for instance can only be learned by two Free Mages instead of Monks and you can imagine how good of an idea it is to make a mage fight barehanded.

>>2489727
Yeah, Nora is my personal favorite, she's really good with axes, spears and mazes and i don't mind having a swordsmith less just to have her in my party.
I should play this game again since it's been like four years since i last played this game.

Also, that sounds pretty frustating. Sparking techs in RS3 is already really hard and time-consuming. Having good waza for specific character and monsters sound like a pain in the ass, specially since i heard that RS2 is one of the hardest games in the series.

>>2489727
Speaking of wtf character design in RS2, why the hell do Nereids have such high dexterity, meh strength but come with skill level in Maces!?

Actually, it does make me realize I never experimented with the more exotic character types most of the time (because I'm usually too lazy to run all the way to recruit them), maybe I should but the only one I ever seem to like is the Moleman

>>2489793
>why the hell do Nereids have such high dexterity, meh strength but come with skill level in Maces!?
Because Maces are the equivalent of Rods in SaGa and some of those have very nice built in effects for spellcasters so in case you feel the need of having a Mage that doesn't completely depend on JP you can even do some moderate damage with them if you have a good proficiency level with maces.
Given that RomaSaGa 2 has a General Proficiency level is not a bad idea at all though Nereids are really not fit for anything else than casting but for the sake of the argument, let's take female Holy Orders, most of them have quite decent STR and have innate Mace proficiency as well, meaning they can use waza on fodder instead of wasting JP that can be used on stronger foes, all those single proficiency levels gained on a Nereid of Holy Order will contribute to increase the General Proficiency level, which means further generations will start with progressively higher proficiencies all around making them stronger and that also influences the BR since RomaSaGa 2 BR grows each time you enter a battle.
to put it simply:
More single Proficiency=More General Proficieny=Better starting characters=Less need to fight battles=Less BR increase=Smoother game.
>I never experimented with the more exotic character types
Elementals have their advantages, Salamanders are great on Wagnas because he has many fire based attacks, Molemen are immune to charm so they wok great on Rocbouquet, Nereids are handy to have against Subier and iirc the Iris Tribe are also flying units so they're completely immune to most earth based attacks like Grand Slam.
RomaSaGa2 is all about experimenting, you'll be surprised by how deep the class system is when you really try messing around with everything.

I really, really wanted to think this game wasn't a Pay2Win game, but I'm afraid it is, it is 300%.
It's not enough to have to fight through hordes of Ogres with GRAND SLAM, you have to fight fucking Rocbouquet in the middle of the stage and then the legit Seven Heroes in their last boss form, in a story mission, in the second chapter of the game.

It's fucking impossible to do this without a team of top tier characters and stage items that are all behind a paywall.

Fucking hell, the Kusoge is real.
Rants aside, Saruin is looking pretty cool

>>2490014
Does Roc still make your male characters uncontrollably horny in a game where I don't even know whether you can get Charm protecting Accessories?

Either way, I think I'm just logging on for the daily bonuses.

I'm already hitting stat limit on my characters

>>2490154
I had a Fuck The Patriarchy team when I tried the mission so I can't tell you.
>>2490164
My Emerald and Minerva are maxed already and they're worthless unfortunately, and most of my good draws are dead or with 1 LP, I think I really hit a dead end here, there's no way I can beat the Seven Heroes with my team unless I buy Crowns for the gacha.

>>2490167
>I had a Fuck The Patriarchy team when I tried the mission so I can't tell you.
Well, unless Albert had a gender change recently...

>>2490184
Oh sorry, forgot to tell that Albert was already dead by the time she casted Temptation.
And when I got to the final part of the quest she never used Temptation again and I got wrecked by Noel.

>Restart RomaSaGa 2
>Get to the City Thief quest in the sewers
>Get to the Deep One
>Bear sparks Atomic Cut and Therese sparks Barrage Shot
>Game freezes next turn

so how long is imperial SaGa anyway?

>>2494231
Considering they'll have to add every SaGa plot in the game?
Pretty long I guess and considering it's only feasible to play it normally by paying for good characters, it's really fucking long.

ｷﾀｱｱｱｱ~~~~~~~

Great news, they've added RomaSaGa 2 Male Court Mages and Female Fighters, seems also a bunch of uniques have been added to the game.

>>2484074
They still look overly-smoothed and overly-filtered to me.

>>2494379
>They still look overly-smoothed and overly-filtered to me.
Most of the character sprites are fine though a few of them are kinda bad because of the reasons you mention, like Yuki Daruma, the Iris tribe characters or Fake Robin, I'm more bothered by the fact that they've uniformed poses to the RomaSaGa 3 standard so all the RomaSaGa 2 characters lost their original melee ones.

The worst offenders are monster sprites though, some are just fucking hideous compared to the original ones.

did romancing saga 3 have more influence on imperial saga than the other saga games?

>>2494406
Hard to say, the game uses a bit of everything.

The generation, soldiers and home facilities mechanics are taken directly from RomaSaGa 2, 2 out of 8 of those are managed by RomaSaGa reps (Sekishusei and Emerald), 2 are managed by RomaSaGa 3 reps(Fullbright and Nora), the rest are currently unmanned.

Poses are uniformed to RomaSaGa 3 system.

Growth mechanics are from RomaSaGa 1 and Frontier.

Waza and Jutsu are from all the three Romancing games and the original SaGa as far as I can tell, Lightning Bolt wasn't a spell in any of the games outside GB SaGa iirc.

I'd say the most recurrent themes so fa as from RomaSaGa 2, some people on 2ch were so impressed by this they were already thinking about a possible RomaSaGa2 remake in the future considering the amount of stuff in Imperial and the fact that now they have a lot of assets ready to do that, which wouldn't be a bad idea if you ask me.

>>2494358
Mr "Dies within 15 minutes of the game starting" to SOUL STEAL!

>>2494584
Someone had to job to Kujinshi man.
In his defense though Soul Steal is pretty OP.
I also got best dad in the next draw, talk about luck.

>>2494415
>possible RomaSaGa2 remake in the future
Still waiting for this all the way since Minstrel Song was released.

>>2494594
I think it will happen eventually, they have really too many good assets on their hands and both Emperor's and Imperial gave a quite clear feedback from the fanbase, some good RomaSaGa 2 and 3 remake would print money for them if they don't fuck it up.
I mean, just rebalance a few things and add some new mechanics like Combos and you'll be set for some good sellers, those 2 games were super hits in Japan back in the days and left a strong mark in the JRPG community.

So what's up with this Robin message?

http://www.imperialsaga.jp/campaign/robin.php

Do you have a greater chance to pull Robin from the Gacha or what

>>2494614
>Do you have a greater chance to pull Robin from the Gacha or what
Fat Robin comes to give you a ticket for a free draw from the Third Gacha, I got mine half an hour ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdDPNxNSAbg
GET HYPE FOR ROBIN ANIME

>Page 10
oh well.
By the by, I'm planning on getting that rare greatsword drop from Alv in Romancing SaGa 3, what's a good place to get a stable encounter rate? Most places with Fairy types only get either lower or upper BR monsters.

>He died to Kujinshi they said
>He isn't a big deal they said

So I want to get into this series after hearing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jx08oKMeOTQ
I don't know much, but I hear 2 is the best? Shame there isn't a translation.

I really don't much about the gameplay aside from the fact that it's an RPG. What's the best entry point to the series? I have a shitty laptop, PSP, Wii, and 3DS.

>>2498592
Minstrel Song (PS2)
Saga 2 and 3 (DS)

Are my first choices.

Saga Frontier
RS 3

are acceptable, but the former is rather rough.

Definitely do not start with Unlimited, which even amongst SaGa fans is an acquired taste

>>2498592
I always suggest starting with Final Fantasy Legend 2 due to the fact the story progression is familiar with other JRPG's so you won't get lost easily while still having its different methods in how characters develop/grow since they don't use experience points and levels.

If you are feeling a bit more bold I highly suggest SaGa Frontier.

>try out TLR
>can't pass first quest
Well, shit

>>2498592
>RomaSaGa2 Last Battle
Excellent taste Anon, I suggest you do as>>2498787>>2498851 said, it should give you a very good idea of how the series work.
>>2501106
Don't give up anon, the game's rough but after a while you'll be able to kick some A.
You just have to be really careful of what you're doing and choose each command very accurately, think of it as playing chess, try to think what the opponent can do and make a plan, really avoid grinding though, you can only do that when you know the game well enough to take risks and succed.

>>2503250
I think I'm getting better. Defeated the fiery idol on 2nd try

>>2503265
>Defeated the fiery idol on 2nd try

Nice, good luck against Gates of Hell, that's probably the next notorious boss battle after Fiery Idol.

Jesus, the Seven Heroes sprite is so bad.

>The Legend of Legacy is getting localized

Yesss.

>>2503384
Noice, more SaGa like games are always welcome.

>>2503384
Is there a release date for it?

Well, look who's got amnesia today.

What do I do here? I tried inputting a name and it doesn't like it.

>>2506174
never mind solved it, didn't like the english letters.

>>2506174
>>2506178
Since I take you're signing up for Imperial I should give you a few tips.

You get characters through gacha, you can have multiple copies of the same character, you can have the same character in different versions.
Units with 兵 are the lowest tier and the weakest in terms of power, don't rely too much on them.
Units with 兵士 are slightly better than the previous tier but still not really good once you hit the second chapter, a few of them, like Nora are kinda remotely useful though, but still don't rely on them.
Units with 戦 are when things get interesting but I'm on chapter 3 and I just got creamed by Saruin with a team that had four of them.
Units with 王 are very dependable and can easily solo even groups of tough enemies if you have the right waza on them.
Units with 帝 are the highest and rarest, they are simply outstanding.

You can't regen LP, your heal does not regenerate after a battle instead you have something similar to fighting game where you get a red health bar, that is the amount that will regenerate after a battle.
If a character is knocked out you lose it for the rest of the stage, if a character is out of LP you lose it PERMANENTLY so be careful.
Growth system is the same as GB SaGa/SaGa Frontier but there's a stat cap depending on the characters, I strongly suggest you cap as many units as you can.

Story wise, you can do 10 quests per chapter before the main story advances to the end chapter, any quest you didn't complete in that chapter becomes inaccessible(but may reappear in later chapters), doing the same quest twice still counts as two separate quests so try to do as many quests as ou can instead of doing the ones you've already completed, Battle quests are not counted in your Quest Counter so use those to grind stats.
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As your character level increases you'll gain access to facilities like the Magic Research Center from RomaSaGa 2 or the Blacksmith from RomaSaGa3, each time you complete a quest you get EXP. that makes you progress through levels, for each level you get various items and 5 special items(those marmalade thingies) that completely restore a character HP, you can hold a maximum of ten so don't hoard them and use them, you can even get temporary random stat boosts by using them.

Talking about facilities.
The Inn lets a character rests and recover HP, but they are unavailable for a time amount that varies according to the amount of HP lost, you can buy beds from the shop to increase the amount of units that cna rest, but given that you'll be shitting Jars you don't really need it.
The Shop lets you buy various upgrades or special items/characters for crowns or marks you get by converting characters.
The Blacksmith lets you craft accessories in exchange for Resources you get on the field.
The Magic Research Center lets you develop and teach Magic, but both take time and make a character unavailable until the time's up, you can use Jewels to make a character instantly learn a spell but Jewels are rare items behind a paywall.
The Barracks have three different gacha for you to get characters, the left one lets you draw mainly low to mid tier characters for coins you get from a lot of things such as quests or login bonuses, the center one works with Crowns and lets you draw mid to top tier characters, the right one is the same as the center one but works on special tickets distributed by the staff for various things such as maintenance bonus.
The Dojo(he one with SaGa Frontier music) makes a character INHERIT a waza from another, but the character who teach the Waza will be PERMANENTLY LOST and the chances of getting that waza start from 10%, so don't ever use this shit.
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The other Dojo(the one with Sekishusei, the old dude) lets a character get bonuses for the waza they learn, such as better attack or accuracy, but stat drops accordingly, higher attack usually lowers accuracy or increases SP cost.
The Varque(I don't know the exact romanization of that) lets you see your profile and input passwords for campaigns.
The center castle lets you organize you party members and formations.
The Storage(left from the center castle) holds excess items or items you get from bonuses/campaign check it out if you see a ! mark on it.

The Magic Research Center and Blacksmih can be upgraded by sacrificing characters, maxed characters fill double the amount of bar uncapped characters can so always use maxed characters or low tier ones on those.
Sacrificing characters in other buildings gives you marks to use in the shop.

Last but not least, once you start a quest you'll see three icons on the bottom, those are stage items that have different effects, the left one(Flower Charm) increases stat growth, the center one(Imperial banner) lets you use a VERY strong attack on a quest boss, the right one( the stone heads thingies, I don't know the kanji for the first part but the last one stands for Doll)prevents one LP loss per stage.
Do not use them lightly as they're only acquired through Level/Login bonuses or if you're fool enoug to give money to her, through Kabakko, Kabakko(pic related) is a kid in a hyppo suit( a joke character derived from a RomaSaGa 2 monster) that will give you random items if you give her money, she can be found randomly during missions.

Obsidian Sword is goddamn stronk.
This fucker beat me two times already.

got around to seeing why I couldn't recruit her and it turned out I didn't give her the dream gem. Thing is I assumed since that you needed it I gave it to her inventory and assumed that was how it worked. luckily I had a save that had all the perquisites for the event ready to restart again.

never played a SaGa before, can I start with one of the DS remakes?

>>2508085
nvm I didn't actually read the thread lol, starting with 2 and 3

>>2508085
Sure, they're fine for beginners.
After those try Frontier.

Why is Cat sad, /Sa·Ga/?

Why is Cat sad, /Sa·Ga/?

>>2508128
Because she has 0 LP

>>2508492
>that feel when no LP

>>2508128
A Cat is fine too.

Looks like Imperial SaGa is going to have a "Seven Heroes Vs Seven Heroes" event?

https://twitter.com/Imperial_SaGa/status/616461708601614336/photo/1

Not sure about my RS2 lore, but I'm guessing the usable versions are supposed to represent them before they became the corrupted ones in RS2.

>>2509820
>but I'm guessing the usable versions are supposed to represent them before they became the corrupted ones in RS2.

Seems like it
>using Subier's, Bokuohn and Kujinshi's non canon design
It's shit
Seems interesting though, that also means we'll be able to use them permanently with some luck, after all they put Butcher in the game.
Wonder how they'll work though, even if they give them their own special abilities like Psycho Bind they'll have to rework them a lot.

It also kinda make sense lore wise, after all even Oaive isn't sure whether the ones you fight in RS2 really are the Seven Heroes, considering all they've been through I wouldn't be surprised if they go with the fan theory that they were just empty shells possessed by demonic energy with an immortal grudge, though that really doesn't make sense if you consider Noel.
I'm really curious about this though knowing the SaGa team they'll probably keep the lore as nebulous as possible.

Oh, I also forgot.

Since Saruin was revived in Imperial it's possible that the original Seven Heroes would fight against him, they possibly don't know about it since everyone's been busy fighting off Vadagara's undead armies.

Welp, Seven Heroes quests are real.

HOLY SHIT IT'S TRUE
YOU CAN DRAW THE SEVEN HEROES AS PLAYABLE CHARACTERS WHEN YOU COMPLETE A QUEST
GET THE FUCK IN HERE!

>>2510282
Eh, Rank 2 = building fodder... and I have no idea if I can win the higher difficulty versions of the quests...

Also I swear that's the exact same phrase that Monica has. Guess they're Brocons.

>>2510464
I tried doing the 4 stars version Kujinshi quest, the Bosses are just slightly tougher, the problem is fending off all the mobs and getting a S rank, best I could do was A at them moment, I just need to build a good team with multi hit waza. I love how the sprite giggles after using a special move.
>Guess they're Brocons.
pretty much, though Noel's comment in the chapter 2 boss battle is pretty much like "I'll fucking kill those who hurt my little sister.", so I guess he's even worse.

Is it even worth using the training area in Imperial Saga if raising one part of your skill drops it in some other category?

>>2510554
Unless they rebalance it, as it is now it's worthless, mostly because your accuracy modifier will be the first stat to drop down and it's already pretty low as it is now.

HOYL SHIT
WHY DIDN'T YOU LOT TELL ME THESE EXISTS
http://www.romhacking.net/translations/2377/

>>2510921
But we did :(

>>2510969
>>2510921
Doesn't make the happening any less real.

RS2 and a redo of 3 when?

>>2510562
Do any buildings affect the skills you can learn? I seem to be just getting the same ones over and over on all my characters and the game must have more than like 4 techs for each weapon type, right?

>>2510993
>RS2 and a redo of 3 when?
NEVAHS

>>2510993
RS2 is currently being translated by Gideon Zhi, take that as you will, RS3 remake miiiiiight be real together with 2 if they're not dumb enough to not recycle all the assets they've already done for Imperial.
>>2511767
>Do any buildings affect the skills you can learn?
Nope, the only thing that affect the skills you get is as usual the enemy battle rank.

>Fight 4 stars Kujinshi again
>Great, this time I managed to perfectly clear the map, I can even get a good chance to draw a 3/4 Star Kujinshi card
>Get to Kujinshi
>Party is Leon and Mikhail with 1 and 3 LP
>Sweating Emperor.jpg
>Reiforcements are 2 areas away
>First round he casts Ill Storm, no biggie, I still have some HP to resist until the rest of the party gets to the boss tile
>Suddenly 死神のカマ
>Mikhail instakilled, 1 LP down

Who is this Prick Pirate?

>>2512514
She's Selma, the female protagonist from Emperors SaGa.

>>2512518
Is there some reason she's cosplaying as a pirate for this then?

>>2512542
Do you need reasons other than "it makes my dick hard?"

Also, all the cards are taken from Emperors SaGa, that one was a limited edition with different stats afaik.
There were also a few events were Emperors originals cosplayed as various SaGa characters in some rare cards.

How did Bokuon become such a weenie after he turned evil?

Also shit, I was really hoping doing the higher difficulties would drop the 3 star version instead but it only dropped 2*. Lame... beating 6*s is going to be hard

>>2512725
That's not his canon design, it's his third redesign.
His first canon design was a standard bearded old wizard you can see in pic related, then Kobayashi redesigned him to be the usual bishonen and after that came buff Bokuohn.

These are the modern "redesigned" version of the Seven Heroes.

And these are the third redesigned Seven Heroes, note how Kujinshi, Bokuohn and Subier are completely different each design.