/vr/ - Retro Games

>>2489392
your remasters can never defeat my nostalgia.

Another Metroid 2 Remake is pretty damn cool.

Super Castlevania 4 is probably the best unknown remake out there. Because nobody knows it's a remake.

>>2489749
>Super Castlevania 4 is probably the best unknown remake out there. Because nobody knows it's a remake.

Cuz it's not. It's another game that has the same premise as Castlevania 1. But it's all new stages, enemies, music, graphics, etc. So new game.

>>2489418
The Dawn of Souls and PSP/Mobile versions of FF1 are actually really fucking good.

>>2489418
Yeah, okay but at least post good ones.

>>2489771

It's a shame the difficulty is a total joke in later editions of FF1. The bonus dungeons are hard as shit if you do them soon after they open up though.

I just recently beat Secret of Mana, and I'm interested in playing the first game in the series. Should I play the Game Boy original, or the GBA remake?

What's the general opinion on the Shining Force remake for GBA?

>>2489418
Not /vr/

>>2489774
>FFII Origins
>better than FFII PSP

Nah.

>>2489821
The enhanced mobile port.

>>2489764
More like remaining reimagining then, as it's not quite a reboo.

obligatory post.

it's Shadowgate 2014 and reboot of the original Shadowgate game for the NES and all the versions on other systems as well as SG Classic for the GB Color.

if you're on Steam or GoG, you just gotta buy it. it has so much content and was really good. not even shilling or trying to. But as a diehard fan I'd love to see Deja Vu and Uninvited remakes as well as the already promised Beyond Shadowgate game coming next year.

>>2489821
both.

they are both great. I think you mean Sword of Mana by the GBA remake. I played it for a bit and I was very impressed. Looks great.

can't go wrong with Final Fantasy Adventure either. it has its own charm. I'm not even half way through yet but it's really solid. Better than FF Legend 1-3.

>>2489821
i'd say play ffa/seiken densetsu first to see where the series started. then after you've played some other titles in the series check out sword of mana. sword of mana really just is not as good of a game as the original in general, despite (or because of?) its attempts to carry the aesthetic/mechanics of the later games back to the original story.

>>2489945
>Better than FF Legend 1-3
they're different franchises

>>2489960
they look very similar though. adventure is easier to get into.

>>2489749
SC4 is by definition not a remake

>>2489774
Man I always loved that artwork

really tho how is Origins better than FFII PSP

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGushYkSJfg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNVXbIlDTNw
>You know that game with the good soundtrack?
>We're going to ruin it

>>2491591
Mega Man X3's soundtrack wasn't that great to begin with outside a few standouts. But yeah, the PS1 songs are just wack.

Also, not a remake. Just a port with some changes.

>>2489974
>really tho how is Origins better than FFII PSP
Better graphics, unless you like RPG maker tier sprites
Better difficulty since you don't pull stat up chances out of your ass like the GBA/PSP remakes and the enemies are not nerfed dumb punching bags.
And before anyone mention it
>Grinding in FFII
>Actually hitting your party members
If you really think those two are necessary you should stop playing RPGs.

Megaman anniversary is a great game, but it has different problems for each system. Gamecube version has the run/jump button switched(why, whyyy). PS2 version's 480p output is a bit too stretched, very noticeable for Megaman 7. The Xbox has a crisp , clean, perfect 480p signal, but the d-pad is fucking garbage and playing a Megaman game with a thumbstick just isn't right. I can't choose between Xbox or PS2, the Xbox's output just looks so freaking good, what a waste...

The Sonic 1, 2 and CD Taxman remakes are all far better than their originals.

Amazing remakes.

>>2492057
>Xbox or PS2
>having either of these systems

You're not a tr00 /vr/'er.

I beat Final Fantasy 3 (NES) yesterday and just for comparison I watched a video on youtube of the final boss being beaten on PSP.

The PSP version looks gross, the music is worse, and it seemed so much easier. I'm glad I played the NES version instead.

>>2489774
Are you shitting me? Origins and Chronicles were fucking unplayable, the load times completely fucked them over.

>>2489749

How can it be a cool game? It was never finished or released.

>>2489945

I thought Sword of Mana for GBA was terrible. There are so many beta elements still in the game.

>Most of the spells are literally useless
Half the spell effects do absolutely nothing. For instance, what's the purpose of "Bubble Boat"? You float around in a bubble, you're still vulnerable to damage from enemy attacks, you cannot attack while in the bubble, and the bubble cannot actually carry you across obstacles or pitfalls. Then there was a spell that was supposed to increase your movement speed. What it actually did was increase your walking speed to running speed, but also preventing you from being able to run. What?

>Shields were dummied out before the final release
You can still find them in the game code. For some arbitrary reason, they decided to disable shields and give weapons a chance to block incoming attacks instead. How this even makes sense in the case of the bow, I'm not sure.

>>2492492

There weren't load times in the Origins version, unless you're referring to very brief black screens when entering or leaving dungeons. I've completed each game at least four times.

>>2492487
It's just a port of the DS remake.

>>2492057
I can't seem to get 480p on my Xbox copy, only 480i.

>>2489418
Not official, but holy shit you guys:

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>>2489764

As long as they have the same plot then its a fucking waste of time playing the inferior version which is evidently the nes version. I was able to clean my library of quite a few remakes I wasn't aware of for some extra dosh on ebay.

Now if I ever decide to start the castlevania series I can do four first then Simons quest and akumajou Densetsu and then whatever one is number four. I really think owning two or more of the same game is retarded. I got some nice cash off sword of mana resident evil directors cut and twin snakes.

No reason to own those since I have REmake Final fantasy adventure and mgs psx.

>>2489886
The PSP version is Origins, but with updated character sprites, graphics, and game mechanics, such as leveling up spells much faster. Not to mention the new arcane dungeons and save anywhere you want feature.

Origins is pretty dated, take into consideration that in the Origins version of Final Fantasy 1, you can't even save on the field unless you use a sleeping bag/tent.

>>2492043
>Hitting your own party members

This is necessary if you put any of them in the back row. Maria starts there by default so if you don't move her up into the front row you can still have her at 30HP max halfway through the game.

I do agree that Origin's gameplay choices were better than the PSP version, but only on second playthrough - Origins locks you to Easy difficulty on your first run, which is virtually identical to the PSP version's difficulty. So at first blush you may not even see any difference.

That all said, if you like FF2 Origins enough to play it a second time, you may as well just roll right into SaGa instead.

>>2492487

>music is worse
It's not an easier game either, but this is the wrongest part of your post. I love beeps and boops too, but the remake had a fantastic soundtrack.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5luGqEFYdLI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKKzLKg7kyI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6fwflfyH-E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeswZRHzhDI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACA0tZ2_8Zk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AldJs_UXqyA

To be fair, the last boss theme is probably the worst because they decided to only revamp part of the song for some reason.

>>2489941

Fuck yeah, the game is amazing. Specially, because is more a reboot o reimagination, than a "simple" remake...

And for that reason, I like more the GBC version of the game. But I know that is pure nostalgia, the new one is better.

PS. I love the Sadowgate cards game

>>2492456

It bothers me how in the taxman remake of Sonic CD the time reset mechanic was removed completely (that is, when you're past 5 minutes on a level and you time travel either to past or future, the timer resets back to 5'00 on the original, but not on the remake, timer stays the same)

Ok i have a question: I've never played ffii, but i know the original was a mess. How many remakes are there? Are any of them a viable replacement if i wanted to play each game?
>>2489771
Ok but ffi is actually good. The remakes add polish but the original game was real strong.

It triggers my autism how with each ff1 remake they rebalanced the game juuuust a little bit. Now there's a bunch of tweaked versions out there and I have no idea which is better.

>>2497470
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>>2497470
FF Origins is your go-to. Play it with autotargetting for an easier time, without for purism.

>>2497470

The newer versions are less painful to play but from a strict gameplay balancing perspective neither version really comes out on top because just every version ends up fiddling with what's the best.

Like the original lifted its magic system wholesale from fucking Dungeons and Dragons which made one of the simpler and effective ways to play that game was just to forgo magic entirely in favour of all punchmans. Maybe one Red Mage if you don't fancy missing all magic forever but not having most of your DPS limited by Tents and shit.

later versions gave it the standard MP system and unfucked a lot of the spells (fair number of them are useless in the original) and now magic is holy shit good and you'd need to be partially retarded to give it up.

>>2497470

I've played every version of FF1. Literally. Even the MSX2 port. IMO, FF Origins is the best version.

>Improved translation, even though the spell inventories are questionable and take blatant liberties.
>Mechanically purer than other ports, but also introduces bugfixes. Some bugs were retrofitted into the game, and various things balanced out to compliment them. e.g. I think the critical hit tables may be based on the same principle as the original.
>Non-restrictive inventory, even though I personally like the challenge of a more limited inventory system.
>Beautifully enhanced graphics, and added CG sequences.
>Orchestrated soundtrack.
>The Thief / Ninja is sensibly rebalanced into a more useful character.
>Chaos' HP is doubled. He still feels like a push-over, though.

Ditto for FF2, despite some translation quirks.

>>2497470
>no idea which [ff1] is better
The GBA one, with this mod that rebalances and gives 12 starting classes

http://www.romhacking.net/hacks/853/

>>2492057
>Gamecube version has the run/jump button switched(why, whyyy)
Drove me nuts too, you can fix it with an ocarina code on a wii.

So sad that they never made more of these, at least there's a solid level editor.

>>2497592
also tilesets from 2 and 3

>>2497550
>Adds classes
Nope. Nope.
All the nope.
Shit like that always ruins a game.

>>2492492
>Origins and Chronicles were fucking unplayable

The fact you've evidently never played Origins yourself doesn't make it unplayable. The load times are unnoticable.

>>2497504
>>The Thief / Ninja is sensibly rebalanced into a more useful character.

What did they change? I never used a thief in the NES version but he was dead weight all through Origins.

>>2498158
>Shit like that always ruins a game.
Oh, you're absolutely right! Because you've played it and have valuable insight to offer in regards to this specific romhack!

huehuehue

>>2498171
Okay, fine. 5% of the time additions like that end up working. But I always put my money on it being shit.

>>2489941
How is the original game? Is it a legit adventure game like the Monkey Islands or is it full of bullshit like Sierra games? Do you die and then just reload, or do you fuck yourself over and not realize until much later that you need to start over from scratch?

>>2497435
Was that not fixed in an update?

>>2498874

No idea, I only tried the demo and was disappointed by that change.
other than that it is probably the best version since the original Sega CD release. Every other version was fucked in one way or another.

>>2498882
It definitely is.

Worth picking up for sure though. The additions in Sonic 1 and 2 are really good too. The fact that the finished off Hidden Palace and made a boss for it really shows that those guys should be handed the keys to the classic series and just be allowed to make new ones on the retro engine.

>>2497421
they made a cards game? I never knew. fucking cool. Also, yeah, I had tons of fun with it. I finished all difficulty levels so far too. man, was that awesome.

>>2498614
the original is a first person perspective pure adventure game, it's also point and click unlike Shadowgate 64 so it's still closer to the Monkey Island games. then there is Beyond Shadowgate (for the PC Engine or Duo CD I believe) which was a point and click adventure, probably the closest to Monkey Island.

The original game has some death scenes when you do something wrong or pick a wrong patch and then you die, the death scenes are narrative with a bit of explanation of what happened to you. Then the original game just goes back to the start screen and have you reload from the last savepoint you made.

Beyond SG was trickier. there were a few points where you had to backtrack far but this doesn't happen really at all in the first SG game.

you should play Shadowgate Classic for GBC which is pretty faithful as an adaption of the original or skip that and play Shadowgate 2014 straight away. they got a lot of modes and one of them is really close to the original too. the rest of these modes have alterating and new content.

>>2492487
I actually rather like the DS remake and it's ports for what it is. I beat the game on a tablet, and had a ton of fun.

Tactics Ogre received the best port of all time. Of all time.

>>2499138
A gentleman of fine taste.

Not all remakes are improvements.

>>2499352
That was just a graphics overhaul, not really a remake.

Star Ocean remake for PSP was very well done.

>>2499376
Yup. I was initially put off by the art style but the game ended up being great.
It also answers some questions they left in the open in the original and restored all the "unfinished" content.