/vr/ - Retro Games

>Xbox
30 fps lazy garbage
>PS2
480i lazy garbage
30 fps lazy garbage
>GC
No games
>DC
Ran over and left for dead.

>>2468835
Oh and DLC for XBOX along with on disc content for DC.

>>2468830
Wouldn't call it good... just very mediocre with some diamonds in the rough and the beginning of the end.

>>2468835
>>2468839
>>2468841

>The gen that gave us some of the best games in the history of gaming

>Imply it was a mediocre/bad gen

>>2468849
>The gen that gave us some of the best games in the history of gaming
Love that QTE and cut scenes.

The amazing games like Shadow of the Colossus does not outweigh the absolute shit of Halo, Kingdom Hearts, or MGS.

Not retro (except for the Dreamcast).

GCN and XB1 are gen 6.5 anyway.

>>2468830
I agree.

>>2468853
Halo was shit, yes, but he who insults KH has crossed the line.

>>2468849

>>2468878
KH was button-mashy bullshit with some of the cringiest characters and stupidest writing of all time.

>>2468878
>>2468896
My sister used to spend hours immersed in that game.

>>2468830
DC was just arcade ports, PS2 was awesome, others sucked, GBA was cool though even though you left it off.

I just finished Sly Cooper a few minutes ago

i had fun with it

Spongebob Battle for Bikini Bottom - goddamn that was so good.

>>2468925
my nigguh

>>2468853
Love that shoddy 3D and awful camera control

The amazing games like Super Mario 64 do not outweigh the absolute shit of Superman 64, Sonic 3D Blast, or Bubsy 3D

>>2468934
None of those shit games were popular kiddo.

>>2468934
So the NES sucked because of Heroes of the Lance and Super Pitfall?

>>2468830

One of these does not belong.

>>2468913
Err, just what did GBA have outside first party games?

>>2468938
Sick ad hominem. I'd agree that the amount of "gamers" grew a ton in the 6th gen, resulting in games appealing to the lowest common denominator being more popular, but as a whole the quality of games didn't really suffer.

>>2468943
By the logic of >>2468934, apparently

>>2468948
>>2468943
whoops, last quote should be >>2468853 obviously

>>2468948
>Sick ad hominem. I'd agree that the amount of "gamers" grew a ton in the 6th gen, resulting in games appealing to the lowest common denominator being more popular, but as a whole the quality of games didn't really suffer.
>the quality of games didn't really suffer.
It really cracks me up how you ignore the PS2 being the only main stram console ever to have the majority of it's games use 480i because devs were lazy.

See this shit all the time. Kids ignoring the fact that PS2 was lazy shit. You can't deny it. So I guess you ignore it.

>>2468956
Why would they support 480p when most people in the early 2000s didn't have TVs that supported it?

>>2468946
Fire Pro
beat 'em ups
a few decent run and guns
tons of NES ports
RPGs
some OK pinball

Those at the very least.

>>2468961
The same reason DC and the rest did on most of their titles. To be played on a monitor.

>>2468956
Resolution on console games has never affected my experience of having fun. If you are that pissed about the 480i you are probably a faggot

>>2468945
GameCube and Dreamcast are both pretty good and even Xbox HUGE has its charm. The PS3 is the only one I'm not too fond of.

>>2468967
480i is the worst possible resolution for a game. It makes these games unplayable on modern sets without lag. Looks like ass compared to 480p.

>>2468956
Geez friend, I didn't even own a PS2. There were other consoles, you know. I don't know why you're losing your shit over a resolution anyway, 240p and 480i are both trash for 3D games.

>>2468970
*PS2

OG Xbox was all good if you didn't have a PC
PS2 is GOAT
GC had the best Smash, Kart. Had awesome Capcom games too at first but then they got ported.
DC is arcade machine which is awesome

>>2468972
>480i is the worst possible resolution for a game. It makes these games unplayable on modern sets without lag

Well excuuuuussee developers in 1992 for not being able to look 20 years ahead into the future. I bet he also thinks it's dumb that antique cars can't run on unleaded gasoline.

>>2468974
>240p and 480i are both trash for 3D games.
Given the time when 240p was used it was the best we could do.
>>2468980
>Well excuuuuussee developers in 1992 for not being able to look 20 years ahead into the future. I bet he also thinks it's dumb that antique cars can't run on unleaded gasoline.
What are you talking about? PS2 in 92? What?

>>2468972
For someone calling everyone else a kid, you must be relatively young if you don't remember that most TVs didn't support 480p in 2000.

>>2468982
>480i began with the PS2

>>2468980
I think he meant PS2 games though.

>>2468986
It;s the ONLY console do use it for the majority of titles... Are you this ignorant or trolling?
>>2468984
Monitors, slugger.

Joking aside. 480p and higher resolution monitors were already around. Was a matter of time for TVs and that's why all the other consoles had 480p.

>>2468994
>480p and higher resolution monitors were already around.
Yeah but most people didn't have it. It was a waste of power for the average consumer. I can see the logic.

>>2468995
Pretty much nobody had widescreen monitors or TVs in the late 90s. Didn't stop Rare from making multiple N64 games with widescreen mode.

Console are meant to last 5+ years.

PS2 is without a doubt lazy developed shit.

Why is this thread on-going? This isn't /vr/. Can't these kids wait at least until the 9th generation of consoles? We're almost done with this horrible generation of mediocre, glorified CGI B-Movies, anyway, /vr/ will be ruined soon enough, have some god damn patience.

>>2468994
I mean that your original complaint seemed to be whining that all retro games use 480i and can't run on an HDTV without lag.

>>2469003
>Can't these kids wait at least until the 9th generation of consoles?

Calling other people "kids" is the #1 sign of being underage yourself.

>>2469004
>that all retro games use 480i
You're an idiot or trolling.

NOTHING retro as far as the mainstream consoles go runs at 480i. Few exception like some 2 player games and some menu screens.

PS2 is the ONLY console to run at 480i for the majority of its games.

>>2469001
Virtua Fighter on 32X has a widescreen mode. World Cup USA '94 CD does, too. As well as Panzer Dragoon Zwei.

I remember seeing quite a few widescreen tubes in the mid 90s over here.

>>2469006
>Implying

Except I'm not, I'm just really angry that all this week there seemed to be a rise on people doing GBA or PS2 threads, or wanting the original Xbox to be retro. Sixth Gen was the ending of legitimate gameplay in favor of "deep characterization plot", and forcing games to be "art" when they're just electronic entertainment and most of their attempts at being artsy ended up as mediocre QTE games like Heavy Rain. Maybe the "It sure is summer" thing got into me already, maybe it's the third world heat driving me insane, I don't know.

>>2469007
Duh? It's all 480i, but pre-6th gen consoles set up the video signal so that both NTSC fields are drawn in the same location on the screen. Thus you only get 240 lines.

>>2469010
>Except I'm not
Oh but you are 15 years old, aren't you? 17 at most.

>>2469012
>It's all 480i
240p isn't anything like 480i... Holy shit go back to your containment board and never come back.

>>2469016
>he has no clue how NTSC works
Jesus Christ.

>>2469010
Then just don't read the threads, christ

This belongs on /v/. Are the mods asleep?

>>2469019
240p isn't an official standard. Please stop. Please.

This is why your kind isn't welcomed here.

>>>/v/

>>2469027
>240p isn't an official standard
Where did I claim it was?

>>2469014
25 ;_;

Began gaming with a bootleg Famicome and those 72-in-1 cartridges.

>>2469031
>he has no clue how NTSC works
The post just before this one of yours, champ.

>>2469032
I mean, Famiclone, god damn, I can't even type tonight.

>>2469035
That's not what I said. He said 480i didn't exist before the PS2 when I said all retro consoles used what was essentially a hack of the standard 480i NTSC signal.

>>2469037
I didn't say it didn't exist.

240p isn't 480i for what ever the time.

>>2468853
Halo > Perfect Dark

jesus how is this fucking thread still here

>>2469010
>forcing games to be "art" when they're just electronic entertainment
please take this mentality somewhere else

>18 posters
>60 replies
Take your girly slap fight to /v/ you fucking morons

>>2469010
There's no way the PS1 is "retro" either. "Old school gaming" basically in just a way of saying "before the majority of games were 3D".

>>2469051
If you believe "games are art" then you belong on /v/.

>>2469069
It came out 20 years ago; it's old enough to be retro.

Well...240p is 480i and then at the same time it isn't.

ITT: Underage people

>>2468830
>the last good gaming generation
> the last generation where all consoles still had controller ports and memory card slots

To tell you the truth, i kinda miss that

>>2468830
Wii gen had some quality stuff, just not as much of it and there was less variety compared to the previous generation.

>>2468830
and this...

>>2469114
Wii also became a pretty neat retro multi-console able to connect on CRT through component cable. I liked that a lot.

>>2468830
not retro

>>2469125
Little late for this, bub.

>>2469115
soon vr, it's inevitable...

>>2469095
You're getting old, man. Someone who played GameCube when they were six years old is allowed to post on 4chan today. Even most of the Xbox 360 generation would be over 18 by now.

>>2469130
He never said his age and there was no need to bump this shitty thread.

>>2469143
You just did bump it, shitstain.

>>2469147
And now I'm saging it.

>>2469130
this is exactly why gen6 cannot be allowed

ITT: Bitter old men who stopped playing video games after the crash in 1983 and want to exclude anything made in the last quarter century

A challenger appears!

>>2469164
>Yuroshit

>>2469157
> Bitter old men who stopped playing video games after the crash in 1983

You know, sometimes i wonder if such kind of people actually exist and post here on /vr/

>>2469178
>You know, sometimes i wonder if such kind of people actually exist and post here on /vr/
I wouldn't doubt it.

>>2469164
oi m8

>>2468853
>The amazing games like Shadow of the Colossus

it was ok, but even compared to halo and mgs it had shit gameplay.

>>2468915
>pic

Um. Wow....

>>2469168
Here's almost equivalent nippon machine. Well it's probably more similar to ZX Spectrum, but close enough. I would be happy to own either...

>>2469178
Hehe, not me, I stopped playing new games in late 90's. And now I only care about 16 bit or earlier. But especially home computers, and consoles second.

>>2469204
>Hehe, not me, I stopped playing new games in late 90's. And now I only care about 16 bit or earlier. But especially home computers, and consoles second.
Wha...do you expect a medal for this or something?

PS2 games weren't even 640x480 most of the time.

>>2469010
>forcing games to be "art" when they're just electronic entertainment
That was already a thing in the 1980s.

>>2469072
It's not a matter of belief, it's a matter of fact. Games qualify as an artform.

>>2469214
>tfw you can't understand that I was being ironic with that post
Actually I was born in 91 so the 8-bit era is before my time. :^)

>>2469221
No they don't. Poker, Monopoly, and football are not art. Converting them into digital form doesn't change that. Games are not and cannot be art. They're games. Deal with it.

>>2469072
Wtf. It's not like gameplay-centric games and "art" games can't co-exist. You seem like an uptight douche

>>2469239
>FF VII
>not art
I could agree that Atari games aren't art, but by the 32-bit era...

>>2469239
How is Monopoly not art? It's a creative work with a single author. You're a dipshit, anon

>>2469239
Poker, monopoly and football are not video games so I don't know why you're talking about them.

>Games are not and cannot be art. They're games.
Paintings are not and cannot be art. They're paintings.
Sculptures are not and cannot be art. They're sculptures.
Music is not and cannot be art. It's music.

>>2468946
megaman fucking BATTLE NETWORK.