/vr/ - Retro Games

===NEWS===

[06-07] The /newstuff Chronicles #476
http://www.doomworld.com/php/topstory.php?id=4433

[06-06] Hype train derailment: Doom4 not to be streamed at E3
http://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1379113

[06-05] Brutal Doom v20 released (before its audience can get distracted by Doom4)
http://www.moddb.com/mods/brutal-doom/news/brutal-doom-version-20-released

[06-04] Doom gets inducted in the Video Game Hall of Fame
http://www.worldvideogamehalloffame.org/
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-33005297

[06-03] GMOTA v0.9.9
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=45115

[06-02] Powerslave EX has been pulled, apparently due to legal issues with the rights holders.
>>2445279
https://powerslaveex.wordpress.com/2015/05/28/new-release-coming-soon/comment-page-1/#comment-280

[05-31] OMG Weapons and Monsters! V4 release
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=838200#p838200

[05-30] Promotional version of D-Touch (Android port supporting GZDoom 1.8.6)
https://yadi.sk/d/D1I-unx_gxLnJ

[05-29] Hotline UAC, a mod based on Hotline Miami
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=48703

[05-29] Android port of Xash3D (GoldenSource engine, for Half-Life etc.)
>>2435656 >>2435685
https://github.com/SDLash3D/xash3d-android-project/releases/

[05-29] GBA Doom Deathmatch Remake v2, map01/02 complete
http://www.best-ever.org/download?file=gbadmplusv2.wad

[05-28] Bloodshedder and The Green Herring chosen as new /idgames maintainers
http://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1375733

[05-26] /idgames update: maintainer Ty Halderman "alive, but hospitalized"
http://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1374872

[05-24] Powerslave EX Beta now available
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/263088376/PowerslaveEX.zip
https://mega.co.nz/#!A8B0XQLR!i4MwWxIGlBxHD0uTiwZcWSJxDO_sdoTWkI7GIMz4Bsk
http://www.mediafire.com/download/8y9bwt54c85o5sa/Powerslave.rar
http://www63.zippyshare.com/v/ajiyFTab/file.html
https://mega.co.nz/#!ao1yDKqR!TdAweY7kEzLx2oeaT32VdcPKagkcQFMe6b4xAD7FSHM

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Please reply to this post with news.

>>2455913
Posted as old thread died:
Thanks. I may use it it future wads... Might be fun to make a 50 pop scifi styled vanilla compatible wad... DEHACK only.

Hello /doom/!
I've made a short level that replaces Map09. It's part of a less serious megawad I'm working on, and I was hoping to get some feedback on it.

Here's the downloadlink:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/ioa55g5lav56ded/ABYSS.wad

>>2455934
Why didn't anyone tell me mapping was this fun?

5th for glorious flemoid genocide.

>>2455952
That's looking pretty good so far. Is it going to be a deatmatch type of level? seeing as most of it is connected to each other.

Have fun mapping!

7th for BOOOM

>>2455956
Uhhh

>>2455957
I'm just kinda fiddling around and trying to learn how to actually design maps. I really like smaller maps with lots of inter-connectivity, so I can probably make it both DM and single-player orientated.

>>2455957
heh, i have to say, i firmly believe the best solo levels also have such high levels of interconnection.

>>2455968
>I really like smaller maps with lots of inter-connectivity
happily it seems we share similar opinions! looking forward to the result. what engine/complevel are you designing for?

Question/Suggestion to Terminus:
Would you kindly implement a "soul multiplier" slider in Demonsteele?
(that would increase ammount of energy souls give you, obviously)

I'd really like to be able to pull off super attacks more often, but:
a) I Suck at this
and
b) I don't want to resort to "Infinite Souls meter" cause that's just cheating.

>>2455956
How good are Chex's maps compared to vanilla D1 and D2?

Never plyed it before but might consider it if the maps are good.

>>2455935
>Brutal Doom v20 released (before its audience can get distracted by Doom4)

Brutal Doom v20's June 5 release date was announced months before Bethesda's Doom 4 announcement.

>>2455968
That's always the best way to start out with mapping. My first map was a small theater like deathmatch level.

>>2455973
I agree as well. Those maps have the most replay value because of all it's different ways to reach the exit. Alltough making those aren't my strongest points. My maps usually end up being to linear

>>2455941

I wanna see it in action

>>2455975
I am giving you a tip, learn when to use the specials, NEVER waste them on small groups of enemies.

>>2455986
You will as soon as I finish 1.5 levels. It's a simple weapon though. Needs some balancing still.

>>2455975

This is an interesting idea.
I think I can do this fairly easily, too.

Sure, I'll try it.

>>2455951
Hey anon! Just played through it on GZDoom on UV, it's pretty good thus far. I really liked the descent into the foggy abyss, and the new Decorate monsters were pretty good. Near the yellow key closet I think there was an actor with missing sprites? Also, I'd recommend changing the Barons into Hell Knights, Baron's are just damage-sponges.

I kind of like it though, I like the opening house a lot actually. Keep working on it, I'd like to see the finished product!

>Doom4 not to be streamed at E3

Yes it will be. This is horrible misinformation. DOOM 4 is going to be streamed during the Bethesda conference on June 14. Stop spreading this lie.

The only things that aren't being streamed are the stage demos that will occur later during E3 on Bethesda's show floor. They'll probably let journalists stream and record those instead of doing it themselves.

>>2456004
Thanks for playing through it! I'll have a look at the missing sprite thing. Most Barons are Hell Knights on lower difficulities, but if you recommend replacing a few on UV, I'll switch a couple around.

Thanks again!

>>2455973
Testing with PrBoom+, aiming for at least complevel 9, but I'd like to be able to get it to run in complevel 2.

Also thanks! I'm thinking of maybe making 5 or so maps and then putting it out for critique.

>>2455983
I find the best way to kick the linearity is to make a fairly linear level, but then put in windows to other areas that the player can hop through, or hallways connecting previously separate areas.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nWvPDj_lYI

>>2456004
I figured out what the missing sprite was. It was supposed to be a dead enemy sprite, but i put in the wrong thing id in Doom Builder, So that's why it displayed the famous '!' square.

>>2456014
I think I'll give that a try. One level I'm working on is a maze like level, and non linearity would work wonders in making it less boring.

Wanted to ask, what's a generally good source port to play Quake 2 on? My main GPU just died so i'm on a bit of a retro FPS binge.

>>2455996
Cool! Thank you so much!

Postan again in this thread:

When trying to run Doom RPG with DRLA, i get a metric shitton of these 'Tried to register class more than once' errors in the launcher. What's the deal with that?

>>2455979
The level design of Chex's Quest is pretty solid and very diverse. Especially in Episode 2 and 3. I'd definitely give it a playthrough, atleast once. Just download Chex Quest 3, which is technically the full version of Chex Quest with all three episodes, and runs on the latest ZDoom.

>>2455935
>[06-05] Brutal Doom v20 released (before its audience can get distracted by Doom4)
>(before its audience can get distracted by Doom4)

Why are you deliberately trying to antagonize the majority of people posting in these threads?

>>2456068
Try loading them in different order via either ZDL or a special shortcut with command line parameters like "<path here>\ZDoom.exe -file DRPG.pk3 DRLA.pk3"

>>2456068

Means there's actors in both wads with the same name.
Not really a major problem, unless actors were important.

>>2455979
And compared to Doom, I'd say Epsiode one of Chex is very similar in quality and build to Doom 1, while the later two are mostly larger and more detailed. Nearly Build engine like.

>>2456074

Majority of people? No, anon, just you.

>>2456078
I suppose they're important because i am unable to fire guns once i finally get in game

>>2455823
>>within less than 15 minutes the CREATOR of doomworld is running full front page damage control >>2455794
So posting a story about the new version of BD is... damage control for Terminus?

>>2456081
I've only played episode 1 myself, but didn't like it. It suffers from the areas all looking similar and just general blandness. The actual flow of the maps isn't the worst, but it's far from D1 imo.

>>2456076
I'm using gzdoom though. Also changing up the load order via command line produces no results

>>2456094

He's just stirring shit, anon.
Nobody actually cares, except for the people who are insulted because they can't load two incompatible gameplay mods together.

>>2456095
Yeah, I can understand that. It's the weaker one of the list, and could get you bored after seeing another storage room, but the layout was pretty on par with Doom. The later episode are a lot better quality wise.

>>2456094
>damage control for Terminus?
What did he do?

>>2456094
the news post is shitting all over brutal doom and mark because the creator of the website knows mark can't answer because, being the creator of the website, the implied threat is 'I will ban you if you reply to this thread'
>>2456083
top kek
the people that play brutal doom, even if they only came to the threads because of brutal doom getting an update just now, are far more than the thread regulars
face it, these are Brutal Doom's threads now

>>2456134
some anons discovered that you can't load brutal doom and demonsteele together
people got very angry for some reason

>>2456145
>the people that play brutal doom, even if they only came to the threads because of brutal doom getting an update just now, are far more than the thread regulars

Last thread got about 125 unique posters, which is about standard.
So, no, anon. Just you.

>>2456134

DemonSteele can't be played with Brutal Doom, which is unsurprising to anyone who knows not to load two gameplay mods together. This clearly means Terminus is jealous because ????
Doomworld posting about Brutal Doom's release means it is damage control for Terminus because I don't even fucking know.

>>2456146
But that's been a feature for ages, why are they getting so pissy about it all of a sudden?
Do they really expect two gameplay mods to be compatible?

>>2456150
>This clearly means Terminus is jealous because ????
because rather than spend 5 minutes putting a notice in the readme he labored for days to photoshop and code in the golden revenents, probably whinging to himself about how this will totally rekt all those people for daring to enjoy another (better) gameplay mod

oh look the pedo came back again

Why doesn't Terminus just develop his mod to be compatible with BD???

>>2456150
people get perplexed by the drama that is interesting to, and is stirred up by three and half anons.

>>2456159
Are you trying to fill some kind of void in your life by doing this?
Anon, please, I think you should seek help before it's too late.

>>2456165
Are you actually serious? They both replace many of the same things, that'd be impossible. Merging assets from both would mean creating an entirely new mod.

>>2456174
>They both replace many of the same things, that'd be impossible
Okay, so wherever they conflict, simply go with BD. :)

>>2456159
>he labored for days

Nah, didn't even take me an afternoon.
Your first guess was right, actually, it took me about five minutes to do.

>>2456183
>all dat delicious jealousy

>>2456183
>all this damage control

>>2456181
Then you'd just have Brutal Doom, since both mods replace everything. Why load Demonsteele at that point? What do you gain from it?

>>2456158
it is a personal affront to their mod, which means it is a conspiracy

i mean, come on, >>2456145 is suggesting that mark is forbidden of replying to news of his own mod, which is patently wrong.
yesterday he was saying mark is banned, so i guess they just have to make things up.

>>2456190
Having both replacements of everything coexistant and being able to choose between Doomguy and Hae-lin would be kind of neat, but I recognise that would require an absolutely unlikely and unreasonable amount of rewriting.

...just having a Demonsteele'd version of Doomguy would be cool though, in the distant magic future where all things happen.

>>2456201

Swinging around a chainsaw and bisecting demons like a sword would be rad, but yeah, it'd involve rewriting both mods.
As I said yesterday, I'd like to see a Brutal DemonSteele patch just to see what it'd be like and what people could do with it, but simply stacking two mods together would never feasibly work.

>>2456165
Because that would require an awful shit ton of work, obviously.
Due to the way both mods work, he'd have to either

1) incorporate all of the BD decorate and ACS features in his mod, which is basically stealing, and would make his mod to not be an original mod, beside having to understand how Mark's code work, which is really hard due to it's structure, and preventing BD's functions affecting Demonsteele's gameplay, which is easier said then done

2) incorporate all of HIS mod into BDs decorate and ACS which would basically require him to develop the same mod twice, without any gurantees that it will work, and the result will be basicaly another iteration of BD. He'll have to make 2 mods instead of one, and one of those mods would not really be his in the end.

3) Implementing same features BD has in DS, in his own way, which would require to: use functions and assets from BD (note that while Mark used a lot of other people's work in his mod, he also used a lot of his own frankenspriting and edits, so that would require Term to ask for their use if he'd want to), and would invite HATRED from BD fanbabies who will definitely shout that Term is stealing Mark's work, even if Term would get permission from Mark to use the aforementioned assets.

Option number 3 is the only one that would allow DS to remain the mod of Terminus and not a mashup of BD with something else. And that option would invite hell from BD's fanbase, which is totally not worth the effort.

So somebody else would have to go with option 3, requesting permissions from both Term and Mark, and the end result would be a mashup he can't take full credit for. That would require the brave person in question to have affection for both mods, will and skill to make them compatible, which is I'm almost sure are mutually exclusive.

>>2456201
See, though, here's the thing. Both mods are balanced around their own weapon and monster sets. You can't have Hae-Lin up against Brutal Doom monsters, the zombies alone would ruin everything. And I'd like to see Brutal Doomguy even try to fight the Blackened. Even if you're okay with throwing balance totally out the window, then you still have to account for the fact that both mods have additional systems that are again dependent on their monsters - Hae-Lin can't gain combo rank or souls from non-Demonsteele monsters, and Brutal Doomguy can't do fatalities or get cruelty bonuses on non-Brutal Doom monsters. Modding just doesn't work the way people seem to think it does.

>>2456210
>beside having to understand how Mark's code work, which is really hard due to it's structure
terminus can't figure out Mark's code because it's too advanced for him? lmao

>>2456209
The forces of Hell have invaded Mars, but they weren't ready to contend with a courtmartialed space marine with nothing to lose.

"Doom" Guy Taggart IS...MOST DANGEROUS.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMC57r4PPsw

>>2456214
What you are attempting to explain is something I already understood, and was entailed in the recognition that it would require an absolutely unlikely and unreasonable amount of rewriting, but a genuine thank you for expounding on that in my stead.

>>2456014
excellent, that means i shall be able to demo it

>>2456217
mark's code is about as advanced as tinker-toys

>>2456236
then why cannot terminus figure it out?

>>2456217
Not advanced. Unnecesary complicated. It's literary a Rube Goldberg Machine of coding. Rewriting it from ground up would be easier, but that also would immediately get you accused of stealing Mark's limelight.

>>2456237

Because it's written like shit. Even smart programmers often can't work out code if it's spaghetti enough.

>>2456237
because tinker-toys are shit

>>2456242
>>2456241
>>2456240
>all this damage control

Wasn't Brutal Doom /vr/ Edition (SE) supposed to be more "compatible" with other stuff due to better code?

And doesn't Demonsteele check for an actor's name in order to make its compatibility patch work?

>>2456201
Well feel free to make a mod like that on your own, I'm sure there's other people who'd appreciate it - not necessarily the creator of either parent mod though.

the thing about reading someone else's code is that you only see 20% of it. the other 80% is a complex mental model inside the author's head which no-one else ever sees. this is why it's easier to rewrite something from scratch than understand existing code.

>>2456236
>>2456237
>>2456240
>>2456242
>>2456241
>>2456187
>>2456186
>>2456248

>all this free b8

>>2456254
no, you see, that explanation is logical and sensible
it's easier to just scream "damage control" because someone's not doing their mod how you want

>>2456256
it's a pity one can't report lists of posts as easily as make replies like this one

>>2456259

You used to be able to report multiple posts at once.
It's a shame.

>>2456201
>>2456253
Oh and there's actually an examle of two mods developed specifically to work together - DoomRLA and kyle's rpg mod. And that's because of an extremely close partnership and enormous effort of their respective creators. It's not something you can assume.

>>2456250
what kind of "replacing same actors" you don't get?
You'd either get broken BD, or broken DS, depending on the load order.

>>2456250
>And doesn't Demonsteele check for an actor's name in order to make its compatibility patch work?

Interesting stuff!

>>2456250
>And doesn't Demonsteele check for an actor's name in order to make its compatibility patch work?

i didnt knew this. brb.

>>2456250
SE is supposed to be more "compatible" with other stuff because of more competent use of inheritances, but inheritances won't help if the heir replaces same state parent has, which is the main problem here - you'd have to make same states to do both DS things and BD things at once, which would require rewriting the code.

>>2456250

Correct. It checks for Brutal_Blood or Brutal_Pistol.
It's just that simple to remove it, if you wanted to make an add-on or compatibility patch.

It's nowhere near as in-depth or complicated as people are thinking.

>>2456276
and it also gets you
>>2456268
>either broken BD, or broken DS, depending on the load order

Don't think you're smarter than anybody else.

>>2456279
hell, loading brutal doom after ds gets you an invincible doomguy

so the complaints about how it kills you are only half right

>>2456250
>>2456276

>Correct. It checks for Brutal_Blood or Brutal_Pistol.

nice

>>2456276
That's it? That's all? So the only thing you'd need to modify for a compat patch are two irrelevant actors, one automatically spawned every time someone bleeds and one that isn't given to the player by default in the first place?

And people are seriously angry about this? This isn't even protection! This is just "learn to mod" 101!

>>2456290
Shows you how stupid brutal babbies are.

>>2456241

>>2456305
The issue here is that the guy who made that quote is just a fucking dumbass.

>>2455990

So is it projectile based?

>>2455193
Anybody? We both have the 227i patch for Unreal Gold, and I've read that saving and loading multiplayer matches is possible, but the game just isn't having it. Using the savegame command from the server console crashes the server.

>>2456305
lol this is self evidently false

> manage to write code that doesn't need comments to be understandable

> add comments to make it more quickly and easily understandable

> therefore, comments are always better than none

>>2456305
He sounds like a guy who smells his own farts because he thinks understanding Linux makes him a genius.

>>2456250
>two gameplay overhaul mods that both replace every actor, each in their own way
How in the fuck would you ever make these compatible with each other without completely rewriting both of them from the ground up?

>>2456334
super leet hacker skills
technomancy
magic

damn this thread is autistic

>>2456315
Yeah. Plasma rifle speed projectile, fired at about half the speed. I'm probably going to slow it down more and make it do more damage though instead. My plasma rifle already acts pretty similarly.
Right now it doesn't use any ammo either, and I think I'm gonna change that...

>>2456350
I don't know why this subject does this to the community here and elsewhere. It's pretty damn civil otherwise. Why can't people just chill?

>>2456305
I'm not going to trust a quote lacking a source.

>>2456356

When the mods are away, the shitposters will play.

>>2456019
This almost manages to save this miserable thread.

So since there's tons of shitposting, does anyone mind answering the question on who runs the doom_txt twitter?

>>2456352

>doesn't use ammo

You're talking my language pal

>>2456352
Consider making it shoot bouncing projectiles; those are always fun. If your engine of choice is gzdoom you can consider using model projectiles too (consisting of two flat planes and a single png texture, bd has one you can "borrow" and edit.)

we need more of these

>>2456385

Some tweets are signed as "Ed", I don't know that many Eds in the community

>>2456428
short for "editor". an old magazine convention.

>>2456428

That means Editor

>>2456410

Fuck it, now I'm in the mood for push again
:: [BE] Montreal :: When Push Comes to Shove
Let's go, bros, we haven't done any servers in a while

>>2455934
tumblr shit OP image. Doomfags confirmed for cancer.

>>2456436

>he doesn't know

ohh poor little boy.

Also I would say "welcome to the threads" but the post counter never went up when you did your post :^)

>>2456439
i dont know about your stupid chink who does cute drawings? It's still fucking cancer, duel me bro

Since there's a couple of peoples who might get angry at a picture dump without discussion, I might ask

What are your thoughts on Contra Doom 3? The author made a lot of patches for some WADs and I don't know if you were aware of it.

THEKEEP2.WAD - http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?id=213

a very nicely made green stone castle map, and fun to run around once memorized. somewhat inscrutable before that, though.*

very few monsters, and a nonlinear layout means you can miss one or two quite easily when pushing for time. the secrets are also a little bit pointless.

still, i liked this one. i'm pretty sure there's another version of it too, that's larger and has a cyberdemon in the inner chamber, but i may be remembering a different map.

____
* hint: to get in the front way, push on the front of one of the skull pillars, but i prefer going round the back for the chaingun. but it needs straferunning, which i doubt the author had in mind at the time it was made.

>>2456454
That looks neat, I'll play it tomorrow I think.

Speaking of wads with few enemies, I can strongly recommend Asylum of the Wretched - probably the creepiest map made for the game as far as I know. It's quite unconventional though.
>http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?file=levels/doom2/Ports/a-c/aotw.zip

>>2456426
lol epic XD

>>2456426
Why is everyone bringing up term in relation to brutal doom? He has nothing to do with it.

>>2456492
That's what happens when you make your dislike of something publicly known. Term is Mark with better manners and better PR, but the egotism and fandumb is pretty much the same on both ends.

>>2456497
>That's what happens when you make your dislike of something publicly known
but neither of them give a shit about each other

>>2456497
>Hello, my name is Anonymous, and I can't differentiate shitposting from legitimate discussion.

>>2456410

yeah we do.

>>2456446

This is amazing.

>>2456497
I know Term, I don't see what he has to do with BD. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, no matter how jelly.

>>2456446
Contra Doom is basically the only way slaughterwads are even remotely playable for me, and it's damn good arcade fun to boot.

>>2456532
Basically it's fake drama. No one on Doomworld or IRC cares about it. Just report the shitposting and move on.

I miss the mods.

hehe

>>2456074

Because BRTL DMB fans are worth antagonizing.

>>2456547
I miss IMX :(

>>2456557
I don't.

>>2456558
me neither, I was just kidding :^)

All jokes aside, what's the deal with tech base food, right guys?

>>2456305
>>2456310
>>2456326
>>2456332
The list that quote is from is intended to be humorous:
http://www.multicians.org/thvv/realprogs.html

>Real Programmers don't write specs -- users should consider themselves lucky to get any programs at all, and take what they get.

>Real Programmers don't write application programs, they program right down on the bare metal. Application programming is for feebs who can't do system programming.

>Real Programmers don't eat quiche. They eat Twinkies. And Szechwan food. (Do not go to eat Szechwan food with a group of Real Programmers unless you are prepared to argue bitterly over the last spring roll.)

>Real Programmers' programs never work right the first time. But if you throw them on the machine they can be patched into working in "only a few" 30-hour debugging sessions.

>>2456095
CQ1 is worth playing for novelty only, 2 and 3 actually stand up to Doom, besides texture repetition and such.

>Chex, a boring ass cereal
>makes a genuinely entertaining and well crafted game for free
>I mean obviously they intended to make money by the marketing boost from it
>but seriously we should've encouraged this somehow

>>2455960
what the shit is this? Russian Overkill, Nuts.wad, and Colourful Hell or something?

>>2456596
Yes, all of them combined. Come on, i made it to the OP 3 threads ago.

>>2456606
I was out of town at the moment probably.

I browse the threads on my phone but I don't look at a lot of pictures when I'm browsing on my phone.

Oops.

>>2456593
>>but seriously we should've encouraged this somehow
Chex Quest was a hugely successful marketing campaign. It won awards and shit. Dunno why nobody else hopped on the train.

Why does DOOM have the best OP pictures?
Seriously everytime I see a thread like this, it never fails to be great

>>2456616
A bunch of really cool artists and photoshoppers who the Designated OP, Tyrant of the Thread has chained in his basement work tirelessly to produce quality OP images for the enjoyment of us all.

>>2456549
>How do I DOOM

>>2456608
>win awards
>sell cereal
>nobody ever does it again

welp.

Say, can anyone help me out?
making a wad (it's very unfinished), and Chocolate closes with no warning when I'm killed

http://a.pomf.se/hvzzgp.wad
I've got a bunch of added resources in it from Quake 1 pulled from q1tex.wad, and it wasn't closing on me a few edits ago.

>>2456634
There should be a Doom cereal.
Chocolate Imps, Sugary Strawberry Cacos, and Puffed Rice Former Humans

Comes with a random weapon inside, also, cut out the coupon from the back of the box, if you send in 10 of them you can get a free pair of Light-Amp Goggles!

>>2456608
Burger king tried years later and it was just kinda meh.

The model is pretty well suited to cereals though. These days you'd probably have to print out QR codes for mobile or something though. CD's probably wouldn't fly unless they were for a major console.

I remember reading a comment a few years ago claiming that Doom is in its golden era

Is this true, and if it is are we still in it

>>2456662

As long as Doom continues to have fantastic content pushed out for it, Doom will always be in its golden era.

HOLY FUCK:

NEW GMOTA?!

I emerge from a week of work to find the most glorious news ever.

GMOTA GUY I FUCKING LOVE YOU. also, new monsters, I'm super excited.

>>2456654
Well yeah, but they weren't great games. There were 3 of them and if I recall 2 of them were shit, one was alright.

Chex Quest was genuinely damn near competitive with like, full price retail games. Also didn't BK charge for theirs? Not much, but still charged.

>>2456684
It's also Zandro compatible, yes, that means co-op is now possible!

>>2456714

It's messy and unbalanced, but yes. medieval bro-op is possible.

It'll get more reasonable with other heroes though, because a team of 4 blaz's or more is fucking nonsense

So, where do I find the latest builds of Zandronono 3.0?

Because it's driving me up the wall that I finally got Doomseeker to place nice with my router, but now half the shit I want to play with my husbando doesn't work with 2.0. (DoomRL, BDJ, even SmoothDoom. Come on!)

>>2456848
https://www.dropbox.com/s/1tu386o7halj943/zandronum-3.0-150601-1843-849a919-windows.zip

DoomRL and SmoothDoom probably won't work.

>>2456887

Thanks a million.

Doesn't want to play with RL still, but Smooth and BDJ work just fine.

>>2456028
Reasking this since there was a dramastorm right after I posted.

Want something similar to Darkplaces. No super fancy eye candy.

>>2456981
I think quakespasm is the usual answer to that.

>>2456981
yamagi Quake II for faithful.
KMQuake2 for eye-candy.

>>2456701
I thought BK gave theirs with some meal or some such.

>>2456646
more info:
tried running it in Crispy Doom, zero issues
apparently, -file in it is the same as Chocolate Doom's -merge, and there's no issues if I use that in Chocolate to load my wad

so, what could I be doing wrong that causes that?

>>2457113
>>2456646
rename F_START to FF_START, but leave F_END as it is.

>>2457113
>>2456646
also, this is pretty nice, but for goodness sake find something better than DOORYEL to put on the key pillar! :)

http://www.best-ever.org/download?file=gbadmplusv2b.wad

almost finished with map03

>>2457274
That did the trick! Thanks.

>>2457302
>find something better than DOORYEL to put on the key pillar
yeah, I realized that
was probably going to see if I could Quake-ify the door side textures anyway it so they didn't stick out so horribly

also, very neat to see a video

>>2455951
I updated the map a little. I replaced the missing thing, and switched around a few Barons and Hell Knights on UV.

Apperently the link is still the same, but just in case:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/ioa55g5lav56ded/ABYSS.wad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCF5f0hSfKg

Is this the future?

Mods that counter other mods?

>>2457360
That feature has been in donut steal for ages, why is everyone pointing it out now?

>>2457360
It's hardly a "counter" if they didn't even work together in the first place.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKjTPovGClw

Actually looks pretty fun

>>2456409
It's using a .deh file so nothing that fancy I'm afraid.
>>2456391
That's likely going to change. Srry m8. Maybe not though. We'll see how it's best balanced.

>looking for a midi version of Them Bones by Alice in Chains.
>Download one from some random midi site
>Some chucklefuck literary uploaded the background music from Barrels O' Fun from Doom 2 as a midi version of Them Bones.

I had a heartly laugh at that, and it's the best midi version there is of that track anyway.

>>2457386
just got off the stream watching it, looks fun as fuck
clunky, but still pretty rad

hopefully we can get a download soon

>>2457392
the tracks in doom 2 were so much more obvious in what they ripped off

>>2457404
Yeah it looked a bit wonky but it looked like a blast.

>>2457392
>Looking for a Dem Bones midi file
>Finds DOOM II's 'Barrels O' Fun' bgm by accident
Would you consider this a sign?

>>2457420
Bobby Prince being a member of Alice in Chain confirmed!

Also, Nice 420 get.

>>2457420
note that CACO means "POOP" in some slavic languages

>>2457420
there's one in the doomcenter wad

>new doom supports WAD's, up to GZDoom-based ones
>new doom as bonus has full DOOM and DOOM 2 remade for newgen
>new doom has key to change the side you're holding weapon - including classic, on the middle

Would you buy it then?

>>2457464
already planning on getting it, would get it, all DLC, and buy it for friends if they did this especially with mod support

>>2457440
Caca means poop on spanish.

>>2456076
Alright i tried running it with ZDL and advanced parameters, i still get a shitton of these errors.

>>2456653
>Chocolate Imps, Sugary Strawberry Cacos
I want this, I'm already picturing the cereal box design with a big cute Caco swimming in a cereal bowl, surrounded by large strawberries.
A certain Doom for your hunger.

>>2457554
Maybe.
Just maybe.
A little possibility.
You're using old versions of (G)ZDoom...

>>2457559
I dropped the newest version in. This time i get errors regarding scripts already existing.

>>2457564
Don't drop old version in the folders of the old version. You're supposed to make a new folder and extract the new version there. Also make sure you have latest versions of both mods.

>>2457565
new version in the old folders, sorry

>>2457440
>note that CACO means "POOP" in some slavic languages
That's "Caca", "Caco" has no meaning.

>>2457565
Well since doing that, it says something about 'Playpal not found'

>>2457565
>>2457571
Nevermind, sorted that out. However the error still persists.

>>2457464
What I'd really want is a 'game' that's really just an easy-to-use but modern fps making platform. If non-exclusive integration with steam workshop and shit was a thing that'd be extra cool

>>2457464
nope, i've been spoiled by too many years of the engine being free software. i won't go back to the bad old days of fighting with software because of not being able to read and/or tinker with the source at leisure.

G-guys?
Help i'm lost out in the forest, i'm posting this from my phone but the signal is low as shit so i don't know if it'll even get through.

Here's a pic, all I have for light is my lighter. I'd use my phone but i'd rather use it as a last resort just incase.

Not to mention I think I heard screaming a little ways away and my campfire went out.....Can anyone help? what the fuck do I do?

>>2457624

>>2457598
In advanced enough engines you don't really need to tinker with the source to make it do what you want it to.

>>2457624
set light to the trees
to hell with smokey the bear

>>2457624
Yeah that is definitely screaming.
I want to call the police...but considering I have no fucking clue where I am I doubt it'd do much good.

Wait I just heard a fucking noise, hang on i'm gonna check it out.

>>2457634
>hang on i'm gonna check it out.
no no no. the correct response is "proceed quickly in the opposite direction", have you never seen a horror film?

>>2457634
OH GOD WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT?!

NONONONNONON THIS ISN'T HAPPENING

>>2457624
>>2457634
>>2457638
>>2457642
>>2457642

What wad is this and how are you supposed to progress?

>>2457667
Here's your education.

http://zdoom.org/wiki/The_Ghoul%27s_Forest_series

These pics in particular are from Ghoul's Forest 3 and you're supposed to progress by killing all the monsters.

How would you guys fix the samsara addons?

>>2457642
R.I.P Anon
1872 - 2064

>>2457725
throw it in the garbage

Trying to script a message appearing when a switch is hit. way out of my depth on this, anyone know what I did wrong?

>>2457758
Switch/cases don't have anything to do with actual switches in doom. What you want to do is click your linedef and set it up like in my image, and in the associated script (script 1 in this case) you just stick the Print(s: command and whatever platform manipulation you want.

>>2456549
That bottom left demon.....

>>2457780
Script 1 (void)
{
Floor_LowerByValue(TagOfThePlatform, Speed, Amount);
print(s:"a platform has lowered downstream...");
}

That should be the entirety of the script unless you want it to do more.

>>2457780
>>2457792
amazing! thanks crew

>>2457792
Praise be to the knowledgeable mappers/scripters of /vr/

>>2457796
yw anon. Lurk around the tutorial articles on the zdoom wiki to learn more about ACS, or look up the code examples provided with many of the actions specials and functions. If you wish to do anything more than multi-function switches at least.

>>2457813
thanks, making a switch do more than one thing has been on my to do list for a while now. Had a good look at the ACS zdoom wiki, pretty decent.

I wish there were more games that featured Hitler or just Nazis in general.

6 days

Is there any Sourceport that's essentially the equivalent of Chocolate Doom, but can also run in a 1920x1080 widescreen resolution?

>>2457872
I think some variant of boom is the closest you can get to that.

>>2457872
It doesn't support widescreen, but Crispy Doom is an offshoot of Chocolate Doom that supports higher resolutions.

>>2457883
Just tried out Crispy Doom after having posted that, and does G/ZDoom have some sort of option for projecting the crosshair on the scene like Crispy Doom does?

>>2457871
Are ya' ready kids?

http://cargocollective.com/cmccampb/Sci-Fi-Hallway
http://www.marshallcreations.com/GameArt_id.html
https://www.artstation.com/artist/brutikong/profile
https://www.artstation.com/artwork/abandoned-sci-fi-ship

What program do you guys recommend for composing Midi tracks for Doom?
Looking to make some original music for my own wad, but I don't know what the best program to use is.

>>2457928
That cybernetic leg looks impractical as fuck.

>>2457928

>really cool fan art is actually Doom 4 concept art that may/may not be reused for the actual game

I wonder how many times this will happen

Best Build engine games? How do you think it holds up compared to id Tech 1?

>>2457992
Blood, but no source port.

>>2457725

Wipe them from the face of the earth, leave no trace of them behind, then destroy the computers that created the abominations

Did you guys know that Claude aka CSonicgo aka guy who runs doom_txt actually had cybersex with a tranny once it's true you know

>>2457992
Blood and DN3D are the best. Engine wise they're much, much more advanced.

>>2457690
>>These pics in particular are from Ghoul's Forest 3 and you're supposed to progress by killing all the monsters.

How the fuck do you do that with just a shitty lighter?

>>2458062
>Engine wise they're much, much more advanced.
They have more features, sure, but I don't think Build has aged quite so gracefully. Even in EDuke32 the game feels really janky, especially regarding projectile hit detection. RPG shots seem to just harmlessly pass through the enemy sprite about half the time. Doors are a bigger threat than most of the enemies, who have a tendency to go completely retarded and get stuck on simple geometry. I've even seen that happen to flying enemies, which doesn't even make sense. Overall, it feels like idtech1 was built to run a kickass game and run it well, while Build is just MAKE MOAR FEATURES with little regard for whether the end result actually plays well or not. The level design and character are what just barely saves Duke from being in the same camp as Tekwar and Witchaven.

>>2457992
Blood and Duke tied and then Shadow Warrior. All are excellent however you can't go wrong.

I've played Blood the most by far though. When I was reintroduced to it from /vr/ all these years later I replayed the campaign back to back like three or four times. I just couldn't stop playing it. I think I've replayed its standalone campaign more than any other single player game in my life. There's competition from Dark Souls but that also has to do with the online multiplayer so that adds to its replayability.

Blood's weaponplay is home to the most satisfying gunplay I've experienced in any FPS ever. The weapons are just so fucking fun to shoot, especially with their alt fire modes, and goddamn I love the dynamite.

I tried to create the Doomguy in Rinmarugames' character creation thing.

>>2457725

The same way you'd fix a dog.

>>2458201

Those dead, lifeless eyes...

>>2458215

he saw some shit

so playing Memorial.wad and the pain elementals cant shoot out lost souls, is this a prboom+ limit thing or are there purely too many on the map already?

>>2458224
lost souls are limited to 20 or fewer in pre-boom complevels, so if you put the whole of doom2 into one map there's too many placed initially to spawn any more

>>2458242
I can dig it

JUST

>>2455952
Hey folks, learning to map guy is back. Anybody wanna give me some tips on monster placement? I find it hard to critique it myself since I know where everything is.

Map is tested in PrBoom, will need a boom-compatible port since it uses conveyer belts.

Thanks ahead of time.

http://www.mediafire.com/download/3fhv1ema1nzka70/LearningLoopingLayouts.wad

>>2458343
DO IT UP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfAalQu9hvY

>>2458343
LIVE MORE

>>2458348
Bretty gud for a first map.
>Anybody wanna give me some tips on monster placement?
Those demons at the lower level don't do much.

Anyway, use monsters according to their role in combat to make exciting fight where the player has to adapt to the circumstances. I think tormentor667 or someone else wrote a great essay on that. Once you know what different monster types do under certain circumstances, it's up to you to shape the kind of gameplay you like with them and level geometry. Personally I'm a big fan of really interconnected levels and using lower-tier enemies in an intelligent way to pose a threat rather than plutonia-style skellington armies and chaingunner ambushes. A nice trick with multi-path levels is having monsters chase you from several rooms away, making it a bit unpredictable where and when you'll be attacked by them.

>>2458348
>Anybody wanna give me some tips on monster placement?
well it's more of an art than a science but

- initial attackers, guys on the floor in the room you just entered who immediately see you and come towards you

- snipers/guards, guys who see you but are fixed in place in positions harder to aim at

- ambushers, guys you don't see immediately but come in later as you advance into a room, in alcoves or behind doors or whatever

- triggered traps, monsters in closets or off-map teleporters, this is a subset of ambushers but also kind of distinct as they're not just placed in a room but need linedefs being triggered to appear.

balance these groups along with obstacles or environmental hazards. obviously you don't need to use all four in every encounter and certain monsters work better in certain groups than others (demons are not good snipers duh! but i mean more subtle things like arachnotrons being more of a threat at range)

>>2458413
arachnotrons are only really a threat when the player is stuck in the open without cover or ability to dodge much, or when one's surrounded by them.

What are your must play/have .wads or mods? For me, Smooth Doom.

>>2458429
Doom:Uncut is certainly an essential wad for me.

>>2458429

I don't really have "must have" stuff.

For "must play", when introducing people to Doom, I tend to show off stuff that pushes the engine to its limits and does crazy stuff. So things like Psychic, Demonsteele, DoomRLA, Zen Dynamics, Reelism, Metrood, etc.

>>2458348
all right now having actually played it i (>>2458413) think you've not done a lot wrong, i agree with >>2458407 about the two demons by the lift, and i also think the blue key teleporter squad needs to have more than one destination (as everything at that point was coming from one direction) but otherwise you've got a good evenly distributed mix of monsters that attack immediately and monsters in waiting and such, along with height differences, interconnection, a coherent texture theme and all that good stuff.

in short, you're doing fine already, keep going.

>>2458429
Brightmaps is the only *must* have because it just makes the game so much prettier.

>>2458407
Yeah, those demons were at first guarding the shotgun before I moved it, must of forgotten about replacing them, whoops

>>2458413
>>2458449
Right on, I'll add another teleport destination or two and remedy those two demons.

Thanks guys

>>2458449
Doom looks so odd without the head and weapon bobbing.

wow e4m2 a shit

>>2458489
You a shit.

>>2458429
a few maps i seem to find myself replaying frequently. memento mori 28, scythe 30, plutonia 29/32, blastem2 amongst others

It's a shame spoopy levels are so rare. I like when there's a real sense of dread in the level.

>>2458507
they need mods to work at all really, when you can, as in the vanilla game, carry 50 rounds of high explosive ordnance and still sustain 20 miles an hour on foot, not much is scary

>>2458429
>Must haves
Home made mod that turns the Invulnerability white colors into a less burning gold I literally can't play Doom if it goes white like that
Demonsteele, GMOTA, MSX

I want that Black Warrior mod from the video linked earlier in the thread, looks fun as fuck

>>2458517
Asylum of the wretched (linked to it before ITT) manages to though. And I mean in F.E.A.R you're an invincible super soldier and the game's nearly impossible to not breeze through for an experienced fps player, but that manages to be spoopy too (the first playthrough anyway).

Why did they remove "use" in Quake?

>>2458574
So deathmatch could be faster paced, possibly.

>>2455934
I want to make my own Doom mod where everything is in a scary abstract style but I don't even know how to program.

>>2458574
Don't quote me on it, but Romero may have said it had to do with the axe incident

>>2458582
>the axe incident
Care to fill me in?

>>2458581
For me, Decorate is just:
Look up Class on wiki
Change stuff to make it how you want it
Do this a lot.

>>2458581
ACS is very, very simplified C. I don't even know how to program and even I figured that out.

>>2458586
10 PRINT "YOU ARE PUNCHED BY A REVENANT"
20 GOTO 10

>>2458584
When John Romero got locked in his office at id Software, John Carmack freed him by taking a $5000 custom-made battle axe to the door.

>>2458601

The most upsetting thing is Romero didn't stick his head through the fucking hole in the door and yell HEEERREEE'S JOHNNY

>>2458585
Decorate expressions scare me, but I feel very much at home in ACS.

>>2458608
Neck splinters are no fun.

>>2458623

he could have at least yelled it. god damn it.

If my name was john and I had the opportunity to smash a door down with an axe, and failed to seize it, I think it'd haunt me for fucking years.

>>2458620
How so? For me, Decorate is like... puzzle pieces, just gotta fit them together in the right way.

>>2458584

>>2458630
Well it's probably that I haven't dome much with it, but it seems much harder to retrieve, use and store data. One thing I'd like to implement if only for the sake of it for example are projectiles that inherit the XYZ velocity of the actor firing them on top their usual forward momentum. I haven't the faintest clue how I'd do that in decorate, while in ACS that'd be much simpler.

sup /vr/oom
been getting back into DRPG after a while of not playing it
what's the level event with the chest that spawns near you and you can open it?
the indicators that appear on screen don't change after i open it, they just remain static. is this supposed to happen or have i fucked with the settings too much

Been playing the new version of Brutal Doom on the new realism mode, doing a doom2.wad run. One of the features of the mode is a decreased runspeed, which as it turns out makes certain jumps impossible without noclipping. Liking the mode otherwise though, very punishing.

>>2458765
Try sideways rolls, and maybe combined with diagonal strafing, they're faster than the Realism mode running.

I've been playing it a lot too, and honestly the only thing i'd really rebalance about Realism is the enemy aggressiveness. It gets real fucking annoying that every single ranged enemy immediately starts firing the moment I come into their sight.

Hey guys do you know if a mod of Berserk exists for Doom?

>>2458854

I believe one of the HDoom guys was working on one, but as far as I'm aware we haven't had any word on it for like a year.

>>2458861
He was just doing weapon sprites.

>>2458861
>>2458870
Damn that sucks

>>2458891
You could ask for the weapon sprites and work with what he made so far.

You'd have the Crossbow and Dragonslayer.

And maybe if you asked really nicely and do well with those you could try to ask him to help on the arm cannon and some more swinging the Dragonslayer sprites.

>>2458894
I would like to do it but i don´t have any idea of how to ACS and DECORATE

>>2458854
>>2458861
>>2458870
Actually, I am working on a Berserk mod (which is what the weapon sprites are for) - it's just really slow because i wanna make sure everything looks good. Someone's already volunteered to help with it and do the coding stuff.

Was working on the crossbow and Dragonslayer this morning, both of which are getting bretty close to being finished.

>>2458907
OH SHIT

Today is a great day for Dooming for this anon

>>2458907
crossbow's actually pretty close to being finished now, mostly just polish up.

>>2458854
What is this "Berserk" that isn't in a pack?

>>2458907
Thanks anon you just made my day

>>2458913
The manga.

Dude has a HUGE sword that isn't even sharp and he just cleaves monsters in half with a blunt weapon.
Also has an auto crossbow and cannon in his arm.
It's a pretty good read too, lots of amazing art.

>>2458913

It's an anime/manga about a very angry man wielding a very large sword

>>2458915
no prob, been working on-and-off on starting this up for a while now
>>2458912
(also i know this is on the wrong side of the screen since it's on his left hand, i just flip back and forth when working for composition's sake)

>>2458907
What happened to Cyberpunk Shootdown

>>2458907
ma nigga

>>2458927
waiting for people who can map or help out somehow i guess, along with waiting on the other people working on it (supposed to be a community thing or something)

>>2458927

The same fate as Cyberrunner, Metrood, Dakka, and project uber.

ded.

>>2458912
current dragonslayer WIP while i'm at it.

>>2458935
>Cyberrunner
Actually broke the renderer, as of now it is still impossible because of how fast it goes.

>Metrood
Finished.

>>2458935
Dakka's ded cus ijon ded 2 community
No idea what Project Uber is

>>2458948
>Actually broke the renderer, as of now it is still impossible because of how fast it goes.

So it's impossible to play, and no one plays it.

So it's ded.

Metrood was gonna have some maps and shit, but once that fell out, the project was set aside, it's true that Samus is pretty much finish but I feel like Term had bigger plans, had he not gotten dicked over, they would have been achieved.

>>2458954
>No idea what Project Uber is

It was going to be a weapon/gameplay mod made by Jack, the same crazy son of a bitch behind Mayhem Mansion, all we have is this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Bx_CoHwerw

>>2458963
Hahaha, oh jesus, that thing.
Fuck, I should go yell at Jack then. I'd love to see that finished.

>>2458941
You can use rips from Oblivion/Skyrim as a base. There's a mod that has a decent Dragonslayer model somewhere. There's also mods with awful DS models though.

The best model of DS I've seen was for Morrowind, it's lowpoly though.

I have no idea how this happened.

>>2458982
Nah, this thing is completely handmade. Still pretty WIP too, but it's coming along.

>>2458941
How many types of swings do you have planned?

>>2458958
Its not impossible to play, i once hosted a Cyberrunner server and everyone had fun. Problem is that if you reach a bigass speed you will go Event Horizon mode. And Metroid on the technical side, is finished, everything is there. The only thing it needs is sprites.
> I feel like Term had bigger plans, had he not gotten dicked over, they would have been achieved.
If you're referring to the E-mail that Terminus got from Nintendo, it was just a "we are watching you" letter. And Nintendo probably forgot about this mod because of the lack of updates. (Besides, Nintendo can't do much, if its a free project without any profit, they can't C&D it and they cannot claim anything regarding dipping out stuff from their games as every sound and even the sprites are made from scratch)

Terminus plans for the mod were pretty much killed because everyone who said they were making maps and to an extent, sprites for the Arm cannon did not delivered and the only one who was making a single player map had its HDD killed.

>>2458994
got a sideswing almost done and i also got an angled swing frame

>>2459000
>If you're referring to the E-mail that Terminus got from Nintendo

No, I was referring to those maps he was supposed to get before that guy's HD exploded, which I'm pretty sure squashed his enthusiasm to further develop the project

>>2459008
No...., if i know Terminus well, is that he can't into mapping or spriting, only coding and consider one important thing, Metroid Dreadnought was mean to be a PvP mod and its complete but nobody plays it.

The maps were a secondary thing that could be added later, same as new sprites. And by the time he was waiting for the stuff he made Demonsteele and everyone knows who became the boss' favorite toy.

>>2458986
Well, maybe not a base , but a reference then?

>>2459002
Nice, that's more than enough for it to not feel old provided each hit has weight behind it.

Is it for Doom or Hexen?

>>2459014

Yeah, he's not much for spriting or mapping, but it can still be a severe buzzkill when someone comes up to you and says "your mod is cool, I want to make shit for it" so you get prepared for this stuff and then said person's hard drive explodes and then falls off the face of the earth, you're left with a bad taste in your mouth.

>>2459014
>Metroid Dreadnought was mean to be a PvP mod

No it wasn't.

>>2459020
dunno, maybe both + heretic, kinda taking it one thing at a time.

>>2459027
If it worked with everything that would be pretty great.

I can only think of three weapons for Guts though

so brutal moose just uploaded this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zmte0t2tb1g
think it could be jimmied into working in GZdoom?

what is the progress on the other characters in gmota? I'm really enjoy it, but I'm getting a little bit bored of playing as the fighter only.

>>2459050

Slow. I haven't touched my mod in the past week between being on vacation and getting ready to get back into the swing of things, and I ain't starting on Kustam til the monsters are done. Admittedly all that's left is to grab some sprites for the Cyberdemon replacement (Yholl was awesome and gave him top tier behavior), make a new archie, replace the masterminds, and the fatsos.

There's still some online quirks I want to hammer out too but fucked if I know how I'm gonna fix those

>>2459042
Fists, Dragon Slayer, Arm Cannon, Crossbow (with different arrow types, maybe). Maybe his old (2nd Act) sword - it's also pretty big, but lighter and faster than Dragon Slayer. Also maybe add some alchemic bombs (gas, fire, explosion) into the mix.

>>2458958
>>2459000
>>2459008

Yeah, not gonna lie, there's two things I learned from Metrood:

1: Release early, release often. Don't release a near-finished build without anything else to bolster it, because people are gonna play it and go "What now?" and all you can do is "Well that's it!".
2: Don't rely on people to do stuff you can't do yourself, which sounds a lot more cynical than it really is. The big thing to keep in mind is that nobody is as dedicated to your project as you are, and for a lot of people this is simply a hobby that they kick back and do in their spare time for fun. They might get interested in something else or stop having fun or run out of spare time--and by having a massive chunk of development dependent entirely on their work, it means if something happens or if they're unable to deliver, that avenue is completely cut off.

This doesn't mean, of course, that you shouldn't accept anyone who offers to help, but it does mean that you should always have a backup "just in case" plan, so development doesn't grind to a halt.

>>2459075
Well awesome that's way more than I thought.

I was thinking of Dragon Slayer, Arm Cannon and Crossbow.
Didn't even think of arrow types.

>>2459085

>>2459075 - not the modder. Just thouht about more weapons a monster slayer like Gutts could use

>>2458983
>That's it mister. You're going to sit in timeout

>>2459085
Don't forget he also has the throwing knives

>>2457341
well, I'm pretty much done with this level
not a clue if I want to add more levels to this wad or not

enjoy
https://d.maxfile.ro/kgfresccbx.wad
and apparently Pomf is closing down, bleh

>>2459141
forgot to mention the usual: vanilla compatible, Doom 2 as IWAD

oh, and the side-of-door textures aren't ideal but I can't be arsed to make them perfect and they don't stick out too much anymore

>>2458983
That HUD looks neat. What's it from?

>>2459342
It's in the ZDoom forums towards the top, it's something ultimate visor.

It has BD support and vanilla support, and you can disable most of the excess stuff on the HUD.

>>2459357
>vanilla support

You mean traditional version. I highly doubt that HUD would work in vanilla.

>>2459357
>vanilla support

You mean traditional support. I highly doubt that HUD would work in vanilla.

>>2459407

I think a better term would be "no mods" support.

>>2458983
Probably because you shot him when he was right on the edge of the large box and the animation for being propped against a wall was triggered by the smaller box?

>>2459407
I'm sorry, I meant vanilla as in no gameplay mods on.

>>2459448
Unfortunately, using vanilla to mean just that only causes confusion.

Vanilla is widely used in the doom community to refer to the original DOS engine.

>>2459000
>Nintendo can't do much, if its a free project without any profit, they can't C&D it
el oh el

>>2459513

What would be a good alternative term to use?
Modless? Standard? Original? ZVanilla?

>>2459541
Original could refer to vanilla to some people.

Standard or Modless sounds good.

>>2459541

I like zvanilla, but good fucking luck getting that to catch on.
Standard is pretty straightforward.

>>2459548
i think modless or unmodded are better because standard is too generic a term

>>2459548
I actually like Zvanilla, simple and to the point.

>>2459141
>>2459151

>>2459608

>>2459609

>>2459613
http://a.uguu.se/pugoie_kgfresccbx.lmp

>>2459608
>>2459609
>>2459613
>>2459616
>Obviously using mouse to turn
>not using mouselook
>autoaiming monsters 5m above you by firing at the wall

shamefur

>>2459541
http://strawpoll.me/4582892

>>2459638
Nothing wrong with any of those things.

>>2459141
>>2459151

>>2459608 >>2459609 >>2459613 >>2459616 (me)

this was mostly a first attempt, i had played the unfinished version (>>2457302). some final thoughts:

- good job with the texturing in general and the replacements for door track colours.

- as you can see in the demo i got pretty lost. while i appreciate that you don't want to spoonfeed the correct route to the player, the fact is it's a switch quest that is mostly totally open, every branch is available from the outset, and you can mostly clear out a branch without being able to reach the point of it (the switch/key at the end). compounded by closet traps opening before the thing they're protecting is available (revenant closet by yellow key opened but i still couldn't get the key)

- having to step gingerly around a box of shells in the middle of a corridor, because if i touched it i would waste most of it, is pretty annoying: please place pickups where they can be avoided more easily.

>>2459638
Thats how the game was played back in the day, dumbass.

Some people still prefer playing that way, too.

>>2459638
Those aren't Doom. You can use them, but they're not Doom.

If he wants to play by classic rules, let him.

>>2459532
Hey, Project M is still a thing (Nintendo is butthurt about it, they ban anyone on Miiverse who mentions it) but they don't C&D it, so i don't see why something that's smaller (Metrood) should get C&D'd.

>>2459651 >>2459656 >>2459674
come on lads stop responding to obvious bait

>>2459638
>not having a sweet ass triangle crosshair
>not crouching and jumping to dodge enemy fire
>not headshotting for the extra damage
>sniping with chaingun and not the rifle

is this what doom has became?
truly shameful

>Playing that Black Warrior mod
>Have no idea why it hasn't been put on any forums whatsoever
It's pretty fantastic despite some big flaws

God. Fuck. Shit. Piss. Cunt.

Who's fucking idea was Voreballs?

>>2459742
link?

>>2459675

I think he's referring to that Super Mario 64 fan remake that got a C&D.

>>2459646
Problem with having the choice of Vanilla on there, is that the community already decided nearly two decades ago that Vanilla means the original engine, and this meaning has stuck around.

>>2458927
We were gonna work on an update but then Mike got sucked into _sink's ayylmao mod and he hasn't been seen since.

rumor has it his spirit still haunts these walls, calling anyone who doesn't like his HUD a gigantic plebeian and wailing about how it should work in widescreen resolutions but doesn't

How do we make classic doom into a horror game without adding major new assets.

Only minor sprite edits, sound edits, and stat modifying.

>>2459795
noclipping archviles

Bey guys, I've been wondering. Are there any good (assuming there are any) open-world style maps? I'm just curious as to see if anyone has attempted it.

>>2459795

If we could add new assets?

Fucking X-Com Cryssalids.

Even the fucking doomguy would be unnerved around those fucking things.

also he'd survive being bit

>>2459656
>back in the day
>playing with mouse

whats the point if you can't mouselook?

keyboard arrow keys or go home

>>2459795
all you need is level design. classic doom was scary as fuck. if you can't emulate that with only level design, you're doing it wrong.

>>2459813
You still get improved precision for your turning with mouse.

Keyboard, its a fixed speed.

>>2459817
thats right. everyone should be using WASD and mouse, but it aint the original way to play.

face it: the days of old school doom with arrow keys is over. embrace the new zdoom norm of jumping, mouselook and precision aiming.

autoaim a shit

>>2459820
>mouse
>it aint the original way to play.

I'll give you that no one used WASD, but you could definitely use the mouse back in the day. John Romero played with a mouse.

>>2459826
You could set up WASD if you wanted to. Probably wasn't that common since it hadn't yet been established as any sort of standard, although Ultima Underworld did use something similar.
>w/s to run/walk forward
>a/d for turning
>z/c for strafing
>x for backwards

>>2459820
everyone should be using VR technologies to project themselves into the game world

>>2459840
>tfw Carmack knew this back then and is already working on it.

>>2459820
I don't use zdoom normally, so no.

Is there a vaporwave inspired was? Or neo-80s at all?

Is there a vaporwave inspired wad? Or neo-80s at all?

>>2459840
no shit, but no one has VR

>>2459867
It's summer even in the Doom general, eh?

>>2459879
>hurr summer
Fuck off child

>>2459882
>derp neo-80s vaporwave
>muh fake nostalgia
Sorry Doom isn't retro enough for you to jerk off to.

>>2459885
>le nostalgia meme
simply eric, settings could be interesting without le eric nostalgia factor

>>2459885
We have HDoom for that.

I just CANNOT play Chex's Quest without some kind of mod that replaces the zorchers.

The zorchers just aren't as nearly satisfying if at all compared to blowing those fucks away with a gun.

>>2459923
What in the everliving fuck is happening to that poor door?

>>2459936
It's the result of mounting brutal doom with chex quest.

Everything else looks fine but those doors. no clue why either.

>>2459938
maybe bd's animdefs has redefined it as a warper

>>2459802
Phocas island 23 is relatively open-ended, like dark souls with loading screens.

>>2459990
2* not 23, my parakeet was walking over my keyboard

>>2459923
Try playing with Samsara with Chex Warrior, the Zorchers in that feel really good.

I really hope PrBoom+ eventually fixes the artifacts that weapon sprites get in software mode some day.

I've basically switched to using Eternity for now, because of it.

>>2458356
Mah nigga.

>>2459867
for your information there is one:

My Soul Trapped In a Windows 98 PC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3mI9mmWTQQ

http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?file=combos/ww-strng.zip

>that fourth review
Lost it.

>>2460076
I legit don't know what you're talking about.

Quick question if I may, does anyone know if there's a Blood source port knocking around anywhere? I want to play it without it it being in potatovision, preferably with controller support. I realise I may be asking a lot but any help would be great

http://zdoom.org/wiki/Fog
how does outdoor or sky fog work in zdoom?
Is it possible to give all levels have a default fog setting?
I would be cool to be able to see silhouettes like in left 4 dead.

>>2460084
>>2460076
"One of the best Doom mods to be inspired by the works of Albert Camus. Really brings home the total distance there is between all people, men and women, imps and demons, and the futility of communication. For what are we communicating but the fact of our inability to communicate? Ultimately however there is hope; WildWeasel believes that we can change, after all, albeit that we may not survive the transformation."
Dunno what's messed up with your browser, do you not have Javascript enabled?

>>2460084
.One of the best Doom mods to be inspired by the works of Albert Camus. Really brings home the total distance there is between all people, men and women, imps and demons, and the futility of communication. For what are we communicating but the fact of our inability to communicate? Ultimately however there is hope; WildWeasel believes that we can change, after all, albeit that we may not survive the transformation.

That review. That review that makes it sound like the wad was made by the Gods of Doom themselves. Strange that It isn't showing.

>>2460090
It's never been properly ported because they lost the source code.

>>2460084
>One of the best Doom mods to be inspired by the works of Albert Camus. Really brings home the total distance there is between all people, men and women, imps and demons, and the futility of communication. For what are we communicating but the fact of our inability to communicate? Ultimately however there is hope; WildWeasel believes that we can change, after all, albeit that we may not survive the transformation.

>>2460097
No, it's never been properly ported because Atari owns the rights and won't let anyone at all do anything with it.

>>2460092
I would be cool to be able to see silhouettes like in left 4 dead.
That's not how fog works in zdoom unless you code your actors complex alternate sprites and brightmaps trickery IIRC

>>2460094
I have it enabled, and I disabled adblock to see if it would show which it didn't. It seems to be a Chrome problem because it works fine in FF.

>>2460094
>>2460095
>>2460098

kek

>>2460103
Oh, I don't mean like that. I meant the dark silhouette on a foggy background. Valve used it in tunnels to make sure people knew where to go.

>>2459813
>whats the point if you can't mouselook?
have you tried turning quickly with the keyboard
shit's awful
people ended up using TSR utilities that would let the player immediately flip their direction at a press of a key if they didn't have a mouse

although, you still needed to run a utility like novert to get semi-modern mouse control back in the day (since in Doom, forward/backward movements with the mouse also moved the player, and as far as I know, it was designed for trackballs)

>>2459638
map's designed for that, like pretty much any vanilla Doom 1&2 map, and he recorded a .lmp, so he's running vanilla or in Chocolate, neither of which support vertical mouselook (since they'd vertically auto-aim anyway)
I played it with just buttons though, just to make sure it was reasonable, though.

>>2459737
If you burstfire the chaingun, it's completely accurate (which he did)
I usually use the standard shotgun there.

>>2459654
>good job with the texturing in general and the replacements for door track colours.
Thanks. Mostly just used textures that it wouldn't look terrible if they didn't align perfectly, and any issues I really noticed, I fixed. Spent a little bit of time after trying to vary things up a bit, there was a lot more unadorned tech wall earlier.

>as you can see in the demo i got pretty lost
yeah, even I got mildly confused (although, it's easy enough to figure out with a quick glance at the automap)
I should move the revenant trap to trigger when you do actually get to the switch that lowers the key or maybe even when you pick up the key, and trigger a different trap for the switch that opens up the the one that lowers the platform)

>having to step gingerly around a box of shells in the middle of a corridor, because if i touched it i would waste most of it, is pretty annoying: please place pickups where they can be avoided more easily.
Yeah, I moved it to the side, I noticed that in a playthrough just after uploading it, heh.

Could someone made a webm of the starting area of Swift Death map14?

>>2460113
Using testfade gives some odd results.