/vr/ - Retro Games

>>2360973
Anyone used the editor of homm2 on 64bit w7?

Posting so you don't feel lonely.
Haven't played that shit, sorry.
Here, have a funny picture.

reinstall
lookthrough permissions
edit slugfest

>>2360973
What's a good scenario to start on in 3? The game seems to start me on Arrogance and I'm getting my ass kicked. Is there a better beginner one or do I just need to git gud?

>>2364591

go random

maximum dungeon.

Heroes 3 is the best Heroes.

I have Windows 7 64 bit with a pirated the GoG version of homm2. Everything works perfectly.

>>2360973

oh, did you buy homm2? cause that is likely your problem, pirated works fine.

I’ve been playing that map Jedi Story lately. It’s pretty well designed but I seriously need pro advice.

A lot of people seem to be able to rush this map and get thousands of archangels as soon as month 8or 9 whereas I barely reach 500 by month 15. I spend several months just recruiting so I lose a lot of time (the worst part is that for some reason the game crashes at the end of month 30day 1).

How can I play this map more efficiently and minimize my recruit sessions (I have considered boosting knowledge instead of balancing it with power but I don’t know whether it’s a good idea or not)?

These threads used to be pretty popular a year ago.

>>2366882
There hasn’t been one for like a week. I think this one is a flop because it stops at HoMM3 so 4fags are not welcome (y’know, muh sowntrack and shit).

>>2366909
But 4 was not very good.

I finished my munchkin Heroes 3 scenario map. It's almost perfectly balanced now.

https://mega.co.nz/#!qZJS3bwa!FlimHJMzcPR7JFguE7CHZPF8CpAXqrkgMRRQfz0sABA

It's p. fun if you like to have your ego stroked and like playing Fortress.

THREAD BUMPING INITIATED B O Y S
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/hommvr

>Enter shipwreck
>Get half my army killed by ghosts
>Finally win
>The reward is a Fizbin of Misfortune

Fucking Heroes of Might and Magic 1

>>2368037
Where ghosts as ridiculous in 1 as they were in 2?

>>2368064
Yes, it goes all the way back to King's Bounty.

>>2368037

>rescue shipwreck survivor
>gives me a tax lien

water maps are fucking trash, especially the maps with the tiniest water sections that if you don't get gate you have to boat down a river surrounded by mountains for 4 turns.

>>2369118
Guess you just got unlucky!

Why not play it on the hardware it was made for?

>>2369158
I need to BREED Tamika.

Why are combat mechanics of Heroes III so fucking fucked up.

Does the Shield spell work against the castle turrets?

>>2369642
I assume it works just like Armorer.

>>2366129
Anyone?

Any recs for good custom campaigns?

I really wish HoMM2 had an HD mod like 3 does. 2 was one of my most-played games in the late 90s/early 00s.

>>2371237
>Pay 25000 gold, 10 wood, 10 ore and 40 gems for the Titan building
>Pay 50000 gold and 20 gems for a stack of 10 Titans
>A Genie attacks and halves your Titan stack
>A second Genie does the same
>All your money down the drain
>You only get 1250 gold per day with a fully build up castle.

Why is everything in the Wizard faction so fucking overpriced?

>>2371378
Being a master of magic costs money, son.

>>2371453
Yet Minotaur Kings only cost 500 gold and Warlock castles get an extra +500 gold per day compared to all other castles.

>>2371378
Nigga how many Genies was it that killed 5 Titans in one attack??? Had to be like a 20 stack

Which scenario is the better choice?

>>2371747

the necromancer hero only starts with a bunch of levels and you have to hire him every time, while the dwarf mission means all ogres join you for greater glory forever. While this doesn't really benefit you as much in the missions where you start with undead forces it is more of an advantage than the necromancer hero.

>>2371472
What units do you leave out with warlocks? Hydras are usually too slow to be useful on the offense and somewhat problematic on the defense but with spells like teleport or mass haste they rock.

>>2364591

play restoration of erathia campaign, it's pretty easy though there are maybe 2 or 3 maps that have a sudden difficulty spike that is only unexpected for a new player who is finding the other maps a cakewalk.

if you really dont want a campaign, like >>2364805 said, just play random. jebus cross XL is a really rich template that is pretty easy to mess around on since the AI doesnt know how to 'break' into the middle for at least 6 weeks, sometimes even longer, so its easy to get your bearings and just practice clearing the map, plus jebus has pretty much everything enabled so you'll get a good feel for the different artifacts, spells, monster types/dwellings, map locations, etc.

Lol, Black Dragon rank

I finished the last scenario in week 2 by rushing Roland with the carryover army.

Anybody got the Linux version of HoMM 3 working on modern distros?

Just bought the 1 dollar Humble Bundle with Heroes 2 (no DRM) and Heroes 4 (Uplay) + Might and Magic 1-6 (Uplay).

Is Uplay still spyware that will actively try to destroy your computer or something?

>>2371829
Once you can hire Dragons then you will need no other Warlock unit. A Warlock castle gives 12250 gold per week and the dragons cost 12000 gold per week.

>>2367690
How am I supposed to beat 7 and a half enemy towns that are all allied together with only two towns and a massive resource disadvantage?

>>2369158
Holy fuck. This has to be shopped. I don't play water maps often but I've never found a high tier artifact from that location

>>2374919
nope, found lion shield the other day, it was considerable helpful on level 2:)

>>2373273
>Might and Magic 1-6 (Uplay)
ugh seriously?

I was thinking about buying this for the M&M collection, but I guess it's a pirate's life for me.

>>2375771
Well the best M&M isn't there anyway.

>>2372437
I just run HoMM3 Complete through wine. HD mod too, no problems. Debian Testing, the modernest.

>Need to buy a new hero
>Suddenly see this guy in the tavern

I never owned this hero before. Is this a glitch?

>>2377084
It's a former enemy hero.

>>2377084

does your map have demon caves? that can happen to enemies and you can just buy their heros.

that feel when no semen demon caves to visit (if you know what I mean)

So i really used to be into the HOMM games but for some reason or another I never finished one. where should I start? I own them all up to V.

>>2361098
man I played that demo map so many times

>>2377350
Start with the first one. The campaign is quite short, only 8 scenarios, and only one of them is really difficult (but can be skipped by choosing Lord Slayer).

Is there a reason the 3D HOMM games went with squares on the battle maps instead of hexagons?

>>2378227
I would guess the change was made because some creatures wouldn't fit on 1x2 hexagons after transition to 3D.
For example, griffin takes 2x2 squares instead of 1x2 hexagons now.

>>2378227
hexagons are a stupid fad anyway.

>>2378316
I need to breed a griffin.

>>2367690
>aestetic wise its bretty ugly

>>2379037
who are you quoting?

>>2379052
>shit i dun goofed making the post

>>2375836
No no V is on there

>>2379056
please stop misusing the quote function

>>2378326
Why do you say that?

They've been used in tabletop wargaming for a long time. They make more sense than squares, removing diagonal\orthogonal movement issues and tend to lead to more interesting tactical positions.

>>2378316
Not /vr/ but Clash of Heroes was surprisingly really enjoyable.

>>2379089
what's with the (You), I didn't post either of those posts

>>2360973
I liked HOMM 1 and 2's art style better than the rest of the series. The 3D turned into sprites looks ugly to me for some reason
Also I tried to play the campaigns in chronological order in the entire series but got stopped at one of HOMM3's expansions. It felt ridiculously hard. I forget which campaign specifically but, it involved me playing as rampart VS a necromancer faction. I was on the second map and failed to actually get anywhere. I was only playing on hard (or normal, which gives you equal footing with the CPU).
is HOMM3 really a massive step up in difficulty?

>>2379123
yes but also not really.
play a bit of singleplayer maps and you'll come back to the campaign and destroy everything easily. the AI is really exploitable and predictable, but seems hard as first since they militarize quickly and catch newbies offguard

>>2379123

I find that homm3's ai takes more risks, compared to homm2 the ai only flips out and comes straight at you once it reaches an arbitrary level of power.

>>2379123
The Heroes 2 campaigns also become extremely difficult if you skip the optional scenarios and choose the worse route splits.

>>2379123
>the nostalgia

People actually play homm3 competitively?

mm6 may be better than mm7

but mm7+homam3 >> mm6 + homam2

>>2372437
Played it a few years ago. It is a statically linked binary if I remember correctly.

>>2362239
I'm Swiss. Heh

>>2380107
not /vr/ but it's still nice to see how HoMM3 looks better than any of the sequels

>>2380113
i like the colors of 1 and 2 best

>>2377519
What's the most effective way to use multiple heroes? I'm basically having just one main and using another hero to shuttle troops to him and I'm guessing there has to be a more efficient strategy

>>2381316
Sounds like you're already using the best strategy.

>>2381316

thats basically it other than taking the time to run them towards stat/exp boosts/useful witch huts. If the map is big enough you can take the time to load up one of your dudes with an army and head in a different direction. Fights with an overpowered army level anyone really fast.

Is it alright to discuss the non-heroes Might and Magic games?
Might and magic 6 always held a special place in my heart. I'd always keep the flute item with me, even though it never had a programmed use.

>>2381813
yeah MM6 is great, super comfy game to play. shame I've been meaning to play through the new game, but I just haven't got around to it

>>2381813
you should post in the computer RPG thread >>2378746

>>2380113
and when I saw first video from 7... I didnt feel anything. yes I could be attached to the homm3 as a 14 year old brestfed to his mother, but 7 didnt seemd to promise that 3 has an heir coming.

btw I just spent whole weekend playing with friend and his wife. We played allied random maps as they are still learning and we didnt feel like competing. Wel also got rekt once by AI conflux after being blocked in the beginning (we play on impossible only, so sometimes random generator fucks us over hard)

Also, brighten your day homamers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJAfIpAzaPE

whats your favorite theme of the heroes franchise https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x20AFkjaZqo
?

>>2383436
Fortress, Heroes 3
Nature/Conservatory, Heroes 4

>>2371227
There's this:

HOMM2:
FHeroes2 (basically a recreation of the heroes 2 engine which allows higher resolution and other options, found it the other day, seems pretty neat)
http://sourceforge.net/projects/fheroes2/

>>2371690
Halving a stack is a genie special ability.

What strategy do you guys use to play random maps? I'm currently playing a large map, fighting against multiple AIs with one main hero. It seems like a very long war of attrition.

>>2384363
Forgot to mention I'm playing HOMM3 Complete.

>>2384252
While that lets you play the game in a higher resolution, you can't play the campaigns at all, so it's kind of worthless.

They added the HOMM5 expansions and HOMM1 DRM-free to the Humble Bundle just now

>>2384991
i dont want to be a party pooper but it has uplay in all of them

>>2385009
Then pirate the maGOG version.

>>2385009
That pic is hilarious, didn't see it before

>>2384363
thats pretty much my setting. Sometimes when I play on larger maps I build up some other town and create secondary hero just to clean the annoying mine stealers. I also play on impossible, I really like that more challenging start, still learning how big army can you destroy with a few troops.

as my starting strategy I usually take gold bonus and try to hire second hero first day. then I use the troops to start fighting with my main. secondary either loots free shit, or sweeps after the main clears the paths. We always called this secondary hero a Shadow. Main reason is that main doesnt spend the precious movement points for taking resources and shit, but focuses purely on fighting and statups

also gold from chests, always! no exceptions! there is never enough gold. when you have enough gold, you already won and are just clearing the map.

Had an awesome game of Heroes 3 last night

>Play Castle because I don't do that much
>Start with Orrin for the nice Archery boost
>Start exploran, nearest town is a Conflux
>Get the magic university for basic earth/water magic and some storm elementals
>Wisdom in a hut
>This is looking great
>Capture closest enemy town, Rampart
>Get Grand Elves
>A while later, getting a Pandoras Box with the artifact that negates distance penalty for archers
>Ohboy.jpg
>Endgame, running Archangels with titans, grand elves, zealots, marksmen, Medusa Queens and Beholders, mass slowing anything then bombarding them to death

>>2387090
>mixing more than two different kinds of armies

Absolutely disgusting.

>>2387138
>implying you shouldn't get an all shooter stacks army from every faction
>implying you shouldn't go final destination with archery skill raising artifacts and maxed out archery skill.
>implying niggas stand a chance

>>2387138
It depends on the morale you ultimately get.

Anyone knows about a youtuber who's really good in H3? I need something to watch to get better.

>>2387138
Orrin starts with morale skill, and that along with an archangel (and any morale artifacts) means that you can mix and match to your hearts content

>>2387250
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAXEJ2ZSta8

>>2387250
actually The me in team is bretty gud, I learned from him that I can attack even bigger armies with smaller force.

He was also autistic enough to make all the campaigns playthrough. As in all of them. It is channel you can watch for a good year. I listen to it at work, it is great background and when you know the game, you dont even need the visuals...

it starts here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EplLyekzMFA

>>2388225
>>2388320
I didn't think I was particularly great at Homam 3 and I learned nothing new from these guys.

have any of you ever watched competitive Heroes 3?

Jesus fuck what the fuck, buy all the heroes you can, beat stacks with ridiculously low armies, explore the map in a couple of weeks holllyyyy shit.

>>2388375
mind to share it with us? I also want to get on some more interesting levels after those 14 years

>>2388379
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZ5M0Lo0hmM

Viewing quality is hard, but yeah.

>>2388382
yeah so it is the same that I already found. I like the bitching of viewers:D Because if you played this game enough you are actually pretty ok with the video, the content is important... and amazing

>>2388382
Personally, I get triggered by tournaments like these.

Metagaming ruins Heroes.

sorry is this sound weird but is there any erotic or porn scenarios for the heroes of might and magic games specially 3 i tried searching for them and i couldnt find anything

What is the correct answer?

>>2390182
8

>>2390151
>SandroxCatherine
You sick fuck

Comic source (in case any of you haven't seen them already):
http://heroescommunity.com/viewthread.php3?TID=27575

>>2390228
nah i was searching for some ignissa or fiona action

>>2390235
so is ther any erotic or porn scenarios or not?

Post some good Heroes 3 custom scenarios.

I want tough fights with lots of monsters and enemy advantage that makes me feel like a big guy.

>>2392217
i dont know about any but did you play the war of the sexes?

>>2392224
No thanks. I've got enough of that in real life already (as a feminist fighting against the patriarchy).

>>2392240
well its a fun map to play or atleast to read the week entris especially if you play as the womans

>>2392297
Holy shit.

They actually use "womyn" instead of women in it.

>>2392240
Hello. How's it going being a Pinko shill Shiksa Goy?

Why is this allowed?

>>2393230
It affects both sides, so it's balanced!

>>2393172
Well yeah its a really fin map eapecially the size joke

>>2360973
This is why you play on the intended hardware, no problems playing this on my P6 box

>>2392078
what map is that?

>>2392078
war of the sexes or something like that but only if you are men you can check what sex you are by changing the heroes like for example in one you may chose sandro and in the other isra

>>2394029
>>2394024
wrong reply

>>2394562
W H A T

>>2369158

>>2390151
>>2390235
>>2392078
so any porn or erotic?

post em

>>2394596
commence steamrolling

Why is Inferno so fucking bad?

They've got nothing going for them, all their units are shit, gogs are arguably worst lvl 1, gogs are slow and the upgrade fucks them over, cerberi are eh, demons too, pit fiends are nice but really expensive for what you get, Efreets are fast but frail and devils just feel lacking for a level 7

>>2397450
Because they're the main antagonists.

Are the GBC versions of Heroes 1-2 any good?

>>2397484

the homm2 gbc port is homm2 with bits of homm3 stuck in it. There is also less maps and way shittier graphics.

>>2397484
>>2397620

I also forgot to mention there is a considerable lag on everything you do, you should map the turbo button to one you can use more easily.

>>2397450
>Why is Inferno so fucking bad?

Because you have to play with them as a devil would do, instead of steamrolling your opponents with magic buffs + fast units.

Get efreet sultan and drop nonstop Armageddon, use multiple stacks of fodder + pit lords to snowball demons (even when you are fighting neutral units, let your fodder get killed first before you beat them), use efreeti in suicide rushes so their fire shield dishes out unblockable damage, or even just abuse the Armageddon + retreat tactic...

They are still weaker than other factions even if you abuse all their tricks, but they'll also become WAY more annoying to fight against.

>>2397254
>The Adventures of Jesus
Oy Vey!

Okay everyone, rank your towns from best to worst, and tell us why

>1) Tower.
Best level 1/6/7 units in the game, and the rest are better than average aswell. Mage Guild lvl 5 + Library is great, too. Decent heroes, too.
>2) Dungeon.
Expensive, but very strong. Beholders are great midgame, both as shooters/hand2hand. Black Dragons + Armageddon is so much fun. Great heroes aswell.
>3) Necropolis.
Purely strengthwise this is number 1. So many skeletons. Vampire Lord are THE best unit in the game, a stack of 40 can easily solo any griffin observatory or dragon utopia
>4) Castle.
Dem archangels. Has 2 fliers and shooters. Also has my favourite hero in the game (Orrin) Champions are expensive as shit.
>5) Stronghold.
Battle Mage is the best hero class in the game. Gundula or Crag Hack easily snowballs into an unstoppable force. Behemoths week 1.
>6) Rampart.
Grand Elves are super nice, but other than that they're meh. Pretty much a worse Dungeon.
>7) Fortress
Very high defense. Dragonflies are good for scouts. However I personally find it very boring to play. Wyverns are really weak, and only lvl 3 mage guild. Besides, great defense aside someone like Crag Hack can use his offense as a defense (killing creatures off before they can hit back) but a defensive hero can't do that.
>8) Inferno.
THE worst town no question about it. Both units and heroes are lacking. ONE ranged unit, and a really bad one at that. Devils are expensive and underwhelming. Efreets are nice tough.

>>2398523
>Besides, great defense aside someone like Crag Hack can use his offense as a defense (killing creatures off before they can hit back) but a defensive hero can't do that.
Defensive heroes/creatures get to creep a lot more without taking casualties though.

>>2398523
>Warlock
Three fliers including black dragons, T1 ranged unit. Hydras can rock with the right combination.
>Wizard
Ranged supremacy. Boars and golems are a bit lame.
>Necromancer
Skeletons are awsome if you can maintain high numbers and support spells. Vampire lords are fantastic.
>Sorceress
Relatively balanced out so there's no extreme weak point but nothing that stands out.
>Barbarian
At least they're not as bad as Knights
>Knight
No fliers, only one ranged unit and that's a low level one to boot. They have the most upgradable units but that can be more a curse than a blessing.

>>2397450
I've never played inferno, what's this about upgrading gogs fucking them up? Also speaking of weak shit

>ghost dragons
just end my life

>>2398562
They get an area effect to their attack but unlick the Power Lich's it affects you own units. Including Efreeti that are otherwise immune to fire damage

>>2398523
You forgot to put Conflux above Tower. Other than that, there's pretty much nothing to argue with. Necropolis and Tower should be swapped but you said that yourself.

>>2398562
Their effect is great against Big Guys though.

>>2398585
For you, maybe.

>>2360973

Just saying hi, and I love Heroes of Might and Magic 2, played it for a few years after it came out. Also have King's bounty and HMM1 but I could never get used to the graphics of those. Tried 3 and still feels wrong. I bought HMM4 complete a few years ago but never tried it, is it worth getting into?

>>2398580
Yeah I just never play with Conflux, they're broken and kinda boring to play with imo.

>>2398550
Sorry but Knight are by far the best starting race in Homm 2. You don't have to buy a single building except the statue with them.

The thing about Knights is that their heroes have a very high chance to learn Diplomacy. With expert Diplomacy you can buy complete neutral stacks for their normal gold hiring price so you can easily buy a Black Dragon or Titan stack during week 1 or 2 and steamroll the other players with it.

>>2398670
You don't have to play as knight to buy a knight hero and the chance to get Diplomacy is only a bit higher than other classes.
Hero-wise warlocks are at a disadvantage due to scouting and wizards with mysticism and a low chance to gain archery.

>>2398653
4 is seen as the black sheep of the series, as it introduced too many changes to the formula. The biggest being heroes as units in battle and you can even make armies without a hero leading them.
I personally enjoyed it. So try it if you want something different.

>>2398690
You have to spend on average 15000 gold to get a Knight hero if you don't select the Knight faction. Also on large maps Knight and Barbarian heroes are the only useful ones anyway because the Sphere of Negation exists.

>>2398690
>Playing Wizard's Land 1 scenario
>Close to the end to the mission
>Lucky enough to get Expert Diplomacy while visiting the Trees of Knowledge
>Neutral stack with 300 Arch Mages close to the enemy castle
>Buy them
>They killed 30 Titans with a single attack

>>2398701
can the hero die in battle? and if yes what happens if you win?

>>2399002
You don't win.

>>2399024
isnt that like a shitty mecanic?

>>2398701
They also removed catapults, made ballistas a faction-specific unit, altered the battlefield perspective, removed unit upgrades, nerfed the power of heroes, and didn't include random map generation. It seems to me they were getting a lot of ideas from the Age of Wonders series. Not really important gameplay-wise, but the graphics for the units look very ugly. What were they smoking while they were designing the game?

>>2399117
some dank kush

>>2360973
So, lorewise, are devils from Inferno Kreegans or what?

the last level was eagle eye or mysticism

>>2399307
Ballistics isn't bad, especially for the undeads.

What's your problem?

>>2399704
not him, but probably the fact that the rng is goin
>hey bro I got you want to learn eagle eye?
>aight that's cool if you don't I got you covered
>you can learn it again next level

>>2398701
>>2399117
can you like build your hero to oneshot the other hero with magic?

>>2400402
Yes, but it's better to learn Order magic to control 3 enemy stacks with the Hypnotize spell.

>mfw Expert Level Berserk

Ouch.

>>2400687
Probably the single most overpowered spell against huge stacks of creatures (and I don't mean loli).

>>2401305
Tell me about it
>Playing Inferno, exploran with my main hero and one pack hero
>End turn, all of a sudden a enemy hero emerges from the dark void and attacks my main
>I gave my pack hero all my troops except devils (for more movement points) so I only have 8 Arch Devils
>This fucker has like 300 halberdiers, 40+ crusaders, 8 angels, 90 royal griffins etc
>First turn, cast mass slow
>Enemies move towards me in a nice lump
>Next turn, berserk his halberdiers, griffins and angels
>They start killing eachother, next turn berserk some more

I didn't have to do anything in that battle.

>>2387250
>>2388225
>>2388320
You fucking serious?I tried watching this LP about a year ago and it was shit.

Go watch Meridian he is the most helpful and he isn't boring as fuck as those guys.Also he completed the whole Restoration of Erathia,Shadow of the Dead and is currently finishing Armagedon's Blade on impossible difficulty.He also has a community tutorial map video for new players in his Heroes 3 HD(ubisoft HD remake) playlist.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLe0K-GUDQkNIym3TpZwstM4KxmCVCr397

>>2401874
ok Meridian

>>2401874
>hear his voice
>instantly think "he sounds & looks like he's from Slovakia"
>check his FAQ
>he is from Slovakia

Damn i'm good.

>>2401874
Meridian actually talked shit about Chris31275 whatever.

Meridian is good tough, if you can stand his voice.

How do you defeat 175 Bone Dragons?

>>2402469
>RACE MIXING

>>2398523

>Conflux
Retarded Phoenix growth

>Necro
Good luck, I'm behind 7000 skeletons!

>Castle
Archangels are glorious

>Stronghold
Why can't I hold all that damage.jpg

>Rampart
Most HP for per gold spent on units. Great overall balance. Miner's guild.

>Dungeon
Black Dragons coolest units, great shooters, Minokings, Dracageddon with Malekith is insta-win

>Tower
lvl 7 shooter, expensive, but good on big, rich maps

>Fortress
Although personal favorite, lacks in the offensive compartment. Tazar is great. Unbeatable when defending in siege.

>Inferno
Arch-devils with meme-teleport which is somehow slower than a big bird on fire. Expensive, lowest HP for the buck.


My personal favorites:

1. Fortress w/ Tazar
2. Necro w/ Sandro
3. Dungeon w/ Malekith
4. Rampart w/ whoever has logistics specialty

>>2402840
Why would you ever use pure race armies?
Higher tier units are more cost efficient and there is no moral penalty with the Battle Garb artifact.

>>2402882
>4. Rampart w/ whoever has logistics specialty
Ugh. Kyrre?

She is so fucking ugly that they changed her gender to male in Heroes IV.

>>2402907
That's it. I always thought she was a man for a long time until I read her bio.

Sho looks like a man, and Kyrre is a male name in Norway

I really like HoMM3, I played through the story missions geniuenly two times, but I really hate how cheap the AI can be

If you go more than one days worth away from your town they sprint for it
If you run back they start heading another direction or back to their town
Uses lightning bolt/chain lightning then flees

Other than that it's great

>>2380113
VI was pretty fun, so was V

>>2402960
>Uses lightning bolt/chain lightning then flees
This shit will always annoy the shit out of me, and the ai knows it.

>>2402960
This so fucking much.

Hey /vr/, could you recommend me some nice, long singleplayer maps for HoMM3? I have this gigantic 3k map pack, but fishing actually well-made maps out of it is a chore. It was worth it for Sander's Folly though. Holy shit that was probably the best map I've ever seen.

>>2402960

You can do the same thing the AI does though. Using spells then retreating is often the only way to fight against the AI when you're heavily outnumbered. Once you get the dimension door spell you easily chase any enemy hero down.

As annoying as the AI is in this game series, it's not nearly as bad as those in HOMM clones like Disciples and AoW.

>>2371237

>be 12
>friend of mine is sleeping at home
>play the same Homm2 map all day
>we don't attack each other until we wipe the IA and build a huge army
>I have a Necro army with around 30k skeletons, around 2k Bone Dragons and a thousand of Black Dragons
>all his 5 units are level 6 creatures
>at this point all the remaining wandering creatures on the map are legions
>after countless hours we finally gather our heroes for the final battle
>legion of faeries is blocking my path
>"Whatever I'll wipe it in a few seconds"
>combat begins, I move all my army forward
>one stack of faeries flies next to my stuff to attack it
>instead of attacking me, it moves back to its initial position
>again and again, and again
>game is stuck in a loop
>"Oh well, I'll just close the game and load the autosave"
>restart the game and click on load
>nothing
>autosave was off the whole time
>we never used the manual save
>mfw
>uninstall out of spite
>shut down the PC
>don't play Homm for years

>>2403504
I have a memory of playing hotseat when I was 10 or so.
I can still remember my friend's pained "aw man, my guy's a faggot" when he saw that his starting hero was Wilfrey.

>>2403627

I remember the attempt of my lan group to play this game was mostly "holy shit, how long is your turn going to take asshole" while we threw things at each other.

>>2393230
Don't put all your eggs in one basket.

>>2404657
I want to fertilize a Medusa Queen's eggs.

>>2404946
I want to BREED harpies.

>>2404961
not wanting to breed ignissa or fiona

there are no qt girls in heroes

>>2406451

naw, heroes 3 did uggo her up though

>>2406463
>SPECIALITY: FIRST AID

i think only Eagle Eye speciality is worse than this

>>2406527
>SPECIALITY: SORCERY

Is worse.

>>2406527
Eagle Eye is not that bad if only one player has access to great spells.

First Aid is insanely useful early game, when you only have 1-2 level 6 or 7 units. You can basically use them as invulnerable meat tanks, because you can heal back faster then they can kill them (at higher level, first aid can heal over 100 points). It also leaves you open to cast magic (instead of wasting mana on Cure), and it is the only way to heal Dragons.

It's only in late game on huge maps where both skills become over shadowed by things like Expert Earth Magic, or high level Necromancer/Offense/Armorer specialities.

A lot of crap skills have uses like that.

I think the only truly useless skill is Scouting.

>>2406540
no it isn't

Sorcery actually gives you more damage

at level 20, Zydar gets +100% to his Sorcery skill, meaning that his Armageddon damage is increased by 30% if he has it on Expert

that's a huge increase

>>2406564
And First Aid speciality lets you kill a huge army with a single dragon.

>>2406582
When is that a realistic scenario?

>>2406593
When your opponent has the Sorcery skill and used Armageddon to kill all your other creatures.

>>2406606
Haa Haa~ well memed anon

it's not like i can't outrun you with my 1 phoenix and see if you have 1 dragon

>>2401874
Original asker. Yes, I found Meridian after some more searching. He's the type I was after.


Anyways. Ever since I was a kid, I've wondered how devils march together with the army, Do they walk like the other shit tiered creatures, or do they just hang back and teleport? How often do they teleport? every ten meters? Every 100? Do they immidiately teleport to the spot where they are ordered to march and wait for the rest of the army?

Has anyone else wondered about retarded shit like this about the game?

Also:
What's your favorite unit? Based on looks, ability etc.

>>2402383
Who's this Chris person you're talking about?

>>2407513
>Do they walk like the other shit tiered creatures, or do they just hang back and teleport?
I have no idea, but just to screw with your mind further, let me remind you that "devils" in M&M are actually ayy lmao invaders from space with a slant towards sci-fi. Maybe they got Star Trek style transporters.
>What's your favorite unit? Based on looks, ability etc.
Magic Elementals. The animations are glorious and stats-wise it's not too shabby, if a little slow and quickly overshadowed by Conflux's #1 bullshit OP creature.

>>2407724
We used to call Magic Elementals as Pervert Elementals because their attack looks like an exhibitionist flashing their goods.

>>2381316
Plan your routes. Don't shuttle troops for long distances unless you have dimension door or town teleport.

If you have a lot of money and a fully upgraded mage tower, hire a bunch of heroes, give each of them a single fast unit and a spell book, and send them out on suicide missions. Use your main only for fighting large enemy stacks.

>>2407724
In Might&Magic 8 they use a lot of the sprites from HoMM3. The fire elementals fly, and tend to levitate with their crouch at eye-level so you'd get an eyeful of fire bulge while they wrecked you.

Suckers look pretty damn /fit/.

I also always liked the Crusader/Paladin aesthetic in HoMM2. The 2x damage against undead was cute too.

>>2381316
Train, train, train. Never use your main hero for anything other than fighting/picking up stat boosts. I always have atleast 2 heroes following my main hero so I can pick up the resources/flag mines, aswell as giving one of the following heroes all the main heroes troops except the fastest one

That way you get maximum amount of movement points next turn, as it's based on the speed of the slowest creature in your army

Also practice your chaining. At the end of the week, place your heroes as good as possible so that you can get your fresh troops to your main as soon as possible. So, like, one hero in the town, which runs to the next hero, switches thr troopes, and runs to the next etc.. You follow?

Also, learn to fight as effectively as possible, with minimum loses. Use a shooter and then a fast one as a bait, and always stay just out of reach. That way, you can keep shooting them while your fast unit keeps them from getting to your shooters. In that way you can beat Minotaurs week one with just Master Gremlins and Stone Gargoyles, for example.

>>2408384
Minotaurs have a morale bonus so they are not exactly the safest enemies to creep with this strategy.

>>2408391
Yeah I know, just an example on how you can beat enemies you "arent supposed to" if you're good.

- must Fight misplaced guards (FMG) rule:
"Misplaced guard" is a guard (monster) that is not guarding anything - this is error of random map generator. On Random Maps, ALL misplaced guards MUST be fought (this means you may not walk around a creature in order to pick up a Pandora''s Box, a Treasure, Artefact, Utopia or other object as well as you can not walk past the guards for breaking the middle.) In case there are multiple misplaced guards for example at the middle break, you must fight "1" of the stacks (any). Also, you may not enter another zone if there is definitely misplaced mountain or other object that allows you to pass without fighting any guard.
Notes:
- guards near resource mines are considered to guard only mine itself - you may pick up resources near mine without fighting guard.
- on Balance template there are few unguarded zone borders, so you are allowed to pass there
- if zone has several separated entries (each is guarded) and if player killed 1 guard (cleared entry #1), he may not enter another entry through misplaced guard
- in case there are multiple misplaced guards AND 1 player has already killed 1 guard AND second player have seen this breaking (hero movement) - then second player may enter this zone without fighting rest of guards. Else, must fight 1 guard.
- in case if resource or treasure chest is near misplaced guard and if it's not clear that it should be guarded - then players are allowed to pick it

- no DD/Fly (you can''t use Dimention Door and Fly spells as well as Angel Wings artefact)

- no Scrolls Level 4 - 5 (you can''t use magic scrolls with spells Level 4 - 5)

- no Necro (you can''t select Necropolis as starting town, you can't use Necro skill (must dismiss all gained skeletons after each battle) and can't build new creature buildings in necro towns if you will find them)

- no Conflux (you can''t select Conflux as starting town, and can't build new creature buildings in flux towns if you will find them)

- no Diplo (you can''t take, level up Diplomacy skill and join monsters.)

- no Joiners (you can''t join wandering monsters even without Diplomacy skill)

- no Log spec (Kyrre, Gunnar, Dessa can't be starting hero and can't attack into final battle. Final battle happens were both heroes have >50% HP of their bought troops)

- no Grail (you can''t build Grail in towns)

- no Carto (you can''t visit Cartographer)

- no Hillfort (you can''t upgrade creatures in Hillfort)

- no Upgrades (you can''t upgrade creatures from Conservatories/Hives)

- maximum 1 level 7 dwell of each town type is allowed to flag on the whole map for one player.

- no Doublebuild (you can't build up 2 same towns. Not allowed to build only creature dwellings level3-7. Example: if player start with Dungeon and has 2 Strongholds then he is allowed to build 1 Stronghold and Dungeon)

- no Red Rush (Red player can''t attack Blue or flag blue's unguarded town on Day 1 of ANY week after Red has bought some NEW army (in any town or dwelling) or Red has hired new hero)

- no Hit & Run (Fleeing or surrendering from combat is not allowed for the first 3 rounds if you have done more damage to your opponent than he has done to you (HP). You are allowed to flee/surrender in any situation if that is the first action you take. Not allowed to use magic level 3+ by prison heroes level11 or higher.

GAME BUGS:
- not allowed to enter another zone through "bug: unguarded road" or through fighting misplaced mine's guards
- no usage of game bugs as: "reducing neutral guards", "hero view", "selling arts above the price".
- "reducing neutral guards": allowed to flee/surrender/die 1 time on un-upgraded guards with upgraded stack inside, that is guarding critical game objects (zone passage, relic/major artefacts, Utopia, pandora) and there are no any limits on reducing neutral guards that guards non-critical objects.

h player, turn-by-turn. Not allowed to pick same town types. When 3 towns are left, player will select town which he will play and his opponent will select from rest 2 towns. Player, who selects from 2 towns, will select color. Player with smaller rating should start haggling for towns.

RESTARTS:
Player can take restart during first 3 own turns:
- if there is no road to second town on Balance template
- 1 restart with no reason
Players must always restart if starting hero is not Level 1

Map is created with following settings:
2 players, 0 computers, all teams =0, water = none; monster = strong; time limit = 6 min; difficulty = 130%

Just some additional clarification:
- allowed to use Disguise spell
- allowed to build Portal of Summoning in any town
- allowed to build Fort/Citadel/Castle/Magic/Special buildings/Money in necro/flux and other towns
- allowed to upgrade existing creature buildings in necro/flux and other towns
- "town view" bug allowed
- having fun is not allowed

>>2408426
>>2408427
>>2408429
>that last line

Seriously tough this is some bullshit, I get that you try to remove luckbased things in these but it doesn't make it come out any less autistic

Some stuff is just retarded tough, like no hit & run or can't use Hill Fort or upgrade creatures from hives

>>2408426
>>2408427
>>2408429
THank you for reminding my why i never even attempted to play Heroes 3 multiplayinger

>>2372437
yes. I add hota and HD patch and directly trough wine

runnin Mint 16

>>2408426
>>2408427
>>2408429
>DD/Fly/Wings, Log banned
>Town portal is ok

thats really retarded. You cant use spell that moves you few squares and sometimes gives you insane advantage in ambushing and stuff, But you allow spell that moves you across the whole map, almost half the price...

I mean I get a lot of those rules, but lost of them just enforce the last rule... I couldnt have fun playing like this.... or could I....

>>2402882
>Sandro
Why

>>2410531
because meme hero

Thant/Galtrhan > Necromancy specialization > the rest of the skeleton niggas

>>2410536
>play galthran, so skellies are faster and there is 100 of them.
>first artifact is wayfarer ring
>witch hut with tactics
>map is XL

you can imagine the numbers, too bad I eventually made cloak and left my legions of skellies behind because even with all the speed they didnt made it to fight before liches covered everything in deathclouds

>>2410626

>>2397450
They're the best faction to play vs map because Devils are very fast with non-retal, and that means a single stack of Devils can clear out a ton of encounters like vs Throng of Zombies or whatever slow unit is there, and once you add Expert Slow to the mix you can easily tackle anything. Spirit of Oppression helps make sure you never get an uncalculated morale streak ruin your day.

Efreeti are very strong units too, and if you snowball a shitload of demons from sacrificing level 1-2-3 units and whatever you find from external dwellings, you can play it like Necropolis Lite.

>>2398523
>Decent heroes
Tower has the worst fucking heroes in the game
>Alchemist class always starts with one shitty skill
>Shitty main skill progression
>Wizards are mediocre, mostly advancing in Knowledge over Spell Power, which you do not need
>Solmyr is overrated as fuck, you want your magic hero for early game to cast Magic Arrow a couple times per day, meanwhile Solmyr expends his mana pool in just 1-2 fights and then needs a well, if there ain't one he is a sitting duck, late game Solmyr will be wrecked by any other magic hero (C.Light specialty doesn't do any worthwhile bonus damage), not to mention any might hero, especially Neela from his own town.

Tower is really fucking expensive and doesn't fit every map, it's a far cry from the single best town because it has probably the clunkiest design stemming from trying to be a "high magic" town which doesn't work because might heroes and might oriented playstyles are just plain better.

Necro and Conflux trounce everything else, then Castle (easiest and simplest to play with strong units), Stronghold (strongest, fastest start, easy Earth Magic), Fortress (you DON'T NEED a mage guild higher than level 3, you can conquer it from someone else + the best combat spells are level 1 and 2 anyway, thanks to how broken Expert Magic is; with Fortress you just clear the map faster than others because of Wyverns and Hydras who are broken for fighting the map, and then snowball into an advantage) and maybe Dungeon if you can get a good early game with Trogs.
Tower is superhard to play. The Titans aren't even as good and versatile as Archangels or even Black Dragons. Gargoyles are bad units aside from flying, Golems are too slow to work as much more than protectors, Genies only are good with upgrade, and the whole town remains horribly expensive anyway. You CAN wreak havoc early game with a force like 5-6 Naga Queens though.
Rampart is good because strong start and great heroes (Mephala, Ivor).

>>2410853
I can't say this enough times, but I'm so happy that this one screengrab I made became so famous.

What mod is he using and is it compatible with the GOG version?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-c0aDYeryE

>>2411245
I love the picture. Can you tell a bit of the game you had when it happened? It must have been one long, epic game.

>>2411394
I don't remember the details, but I think it was either a wandering monster stack of maxed out azure dragons (their quantity grows over time, 4000 is the cap), or a guard tower or Pandora's box that mixed up multiple stacks of lvl7+ units, maybe lvl8 ones as well.

You normally get a maximum of 2667 power liches for a maxed out stack, so I was quite surprised to get double of that - it had to have been because I was fighting 2 times 4000 units.

I think it was on this map (it was littered with rust and azure dragons, that ended up growing to max amount, and some of them actually joined me - hence the 15k rust dragons). Don't ask for the map title, I don't remember, and it was an awful map too - one inferno player had the grail, so the map was almost impossible to navigate through due to all the imps.

>>2411413
and this was my hero. He didn't even have necro speciality, though I may have had the Necro grail.

>>2411413
What mod is this?

so whats your favourite scenario to go back and play?
mine is the one where the map is a clover and it involves a deer god i think

>>2413076
probably the 4 player Dragons one

>>2411656
It isn't a mod, unless you mean Armageddon's Blade and Shadow of Death, which are legit expansions that came out for the game.

>>2411334
Please respond.

>>2413209
do you mean the HD mod?
https://sites.google.com/site/heroes3hd/

>>2380113
I could sorta have fun with HOMMV, though it's aesthetics were generally forgettable.
Then again I', probably biased because I'be played tons of HOMMV hotseat with a friend that loved it.

>>2380113
The IV looked good too, with the exception of towns.

>>2413390
I agree. Although flawed in some/many areas, I overall liked IV.

>>2413076

plains of aekon is probley my favorite chill scenario to replay, just one town and time to explore, and hunt down that one barbarian hero who somehow gets anduran's battle garb everytime after the first two weeks

>>2413453
The best part of V was the town screens. I spent hours just looking around in them.

>>2413194
I didn't think you could get anything other than skeletons from necromancy normally.

>>2413343
I am now playing the campaigns and sort of like it. Even the stuff that resembles story. wen through haven campaign on heroic without trouble and then tried normal with agrael (inferno) and is almost boring easy. But I like that character, he is interesting and strangely antiheroic. I hope the story wont end in some bullshit.

I remember playing also necro campaign with that fun "everybody joins you" old friendly man.

I also like the skill wheel, I think that is the best mechanics V have to offer and is the main reason why I keep coming back, just trying various "builds" of heroes. That inferno chick with Iron Maiden speciality is fun as the ballista is godly

>>2415070
It's the Necromancer combo artifact Cloak of the undead king from Shadow of Death.
>30% of battlefield dead are resurrected as Skeletons. If hero already has the Necromancy skill, then the percentages are added and skill level determines what will be resurrected: Basic - Zombies, Advanced - Wights, Expert - Liches.

>>2415581
Ah, then I understand!

What do you guys typically do with the new towns that you capture? I'm just starting out playing on medium maps on easy, but usually I just upgrade them to City Halls and maybe Castles. If anyone attacks I'll just buy up whatever creatures are there, and I usually don't bother getting a hero since my main is the only one really worth a crap.

I'm curious what the more experienced players do with captured towns, and how you balance growing captured towns with growing your main hub.

Playing Fortress most of the time fwiw.

>>2416090
>What do you guys typically do with the new towns that you capture?
You build them up and give the best units of all your towns to your main hero.
>If anyone attacks I'll just buy up whatever creatures are there
That is a waste of money. Just hire 7 tier 1 units and hope your guard towers kill many enemies before the walls are broken.

>>2416090
It depends on the situation, type of town compared to my main and whether I expect a counter attack.
If you lose the town everything you build up will be used against you so it may be best not to invest anything. Defenses can be useful if you intend to use your hero to defend against recapture attempts but wasteful if you can only muster up a token force. Throwing money at your enemy mainly makes sense if you have too much of it and want to deprive him of as many resources as possible.
If a counter attack is unlikely and I can't use the troops getting economy upgrades is obviously the priority. Mage guild and special buildings can also be useful depending on the situation.
Ultimately it can be worthwhile to raise a new army but that's more of a long term investment.

>>2416102
>That is a waste of money

It can be an issue in the early game if the enemy recaptures a town you've let creatures pile up in and they hire them all.
If it's "behind your lines" in the sense your main force is far away they can flag a lot of mines and delay or kill reinforcements.

>>2416151
not this guy but it can be good to have a hero in the town if the town is not near any of the other to get the free week resources and if is it a rampart town get the miners guild

>Attack some Red Dragons
>They join

>>2418683
>>2418683
Diplomacy is broken in Heroes 3.
>Some Crusaders want to join
>161 of them

And you just keep snowballing.

do you guys think that the hd mod changes the artifacts appearence like i used to play randoms medium or large and never having any artifacts and today i got one map with 2 of the armors that curses your opponents one vial of life a bunch of the artifacts that give one or 4 to all stats and like 3 elemental magic books

>>2406606
armageddon will kill your first aid tent too.

>>2421480
Yes.

>>2402469
>Ghosts

Spooky shit. I once got them in late game on a big map. The first enemy I found were peasants. Zounds of peasants. I was a necromancer to boot.

>>2420102
It also doesn't make sense for undead creatures to join.

>undead
>having no sense of morale but desire "greater glory"

>>2423821
Having no morals != having no intellect.

Is there anything more satisfying than having your endgame logistics network work absolutely flawlessly?

> AI main hero coming close to my 2nd fortress town I'm trying to build
> Tazar sees this and disapproves
> Send the entire army back to the main hub, buy everyone, upgrade everyone, and right back in 1 day
> AI runs like a bitch
> Go in completely dry on both of the AI's towns and all his heroes.

>>2423792
> Ghosts + necromancy
Both the spirits and bones of your enemies will fill your ranks!

>>2384252
> FHeroes2
> other options
Any for the map editor? I always wished the HoMM2 map editor had a few more scriptable events and the like.

If you go through a Subterranean Gate but don't want to fight the monsters that may be at the exit, is there any way to "back out", or are you basically stuck there unless you decide to fight?

>>2423987
Space

>>2423991
Thanks, last game I played I lost two scouts and wish I knew this.

>>2423958
Endgame makes me feel like a god:

>Main hero has expert earth magic, town teleport, dimension door, implosion, resurrection, and summon elemental
>Mule heroes no longer needed, just warp between towns to build up army
>Easily teleport to any town that's being threatened
>Jump halfway across the whole map in one turn with dimension door
>Huge standing army no longer necessary, use just a few fast units for fodder while summoning a legion of elementals to overwhelm enemy
>Resurrect dead units right before destroying last enemy unit

Hello everyone, i just got the Complete edition of HoMM3, and don't know what i'm in for, first game of the series I play. How do i get into it?

>>2424352
Try the first campaign (Long Live the Queen) or play around on one of the other maps.

>>2424352
Play the tutorial then start with the 1st campaign of vanilla ( Restoration of Erathia > Long Live the Queen ).

>>2424380
>>2424385
Thanks guys, also, what's the best city to start with?

>>2424387
Pick whichever one looks fun to you. None of them are really bad, except maybe Inferno.

>>2423994
I been playing Heroes 3 for years and I never knew this.

>>2424387
Castle is pretty straight forward and balanced.

>>2423994
In case it's not intuitive from the gate explanation, space interacts with whatever your hero is standing on. It can be used to hire creatures from a dwelling if you, say, needed to trade some resources to buy the full stack available and so had to re-open the hiring window, without you having to waste movement go step off and back on it.

In HoMM2 I always felt very underwhelmed when it came to the bread and butter ground units. At least with knight you can stack archers at the beginning, but with necromancers you are literally just spending 3 turns crossing the field to damage ranged units. Am I missing a strategy that makes armies with only average speed ground units useful?

>>2424528
Spells. Mass haste and teleport make a lot of difference.

>>2424528

for Homm2 early game necro you are gonna want to rush to liches or vampires as fast as possible, if there are enough resources and if you start with enough buildings you can even rush right to bone dragons week one.

>>2424391
Inferno isn't really bad either, just plays really different - you don't want to bumrush the opponent to defeat them, you want to troll them and use the most dick moves you can to weaken them first.

>>2424747

I have been trying to become familiar with Inferno for the past few days. Is demon farming really worth the headache? I have been trying it but it seems like quite a lot of work for little reward. I kind of have to hope the AI is going to do certain things which it may or may not do. It's pretty good if I can get Diplomacy but you can't base a strategy around it.

Unlike necromancy which requires no overhead at all to be very effective.

>>2424747

That works for everyone, though. Inferno NEEDS to do that sort of thing because in most respects they're just not as good.

>>2424829
>That works for everyone, though. Inferno NEEDS to do that sort of thing because in most respects they're just not as good.

It works a bit easier for Inferno because they get a few things that make it easier.

Specifically, a fire immune lvl 6 creature, a very high probability for Armageddon to appear in their magic schools, and a support building that boosts magic power.

>>2424802
> I kind of have to hope the AI is going to do certain things which it may or may not do
It comes with understanding how it will choose its next target. It most often tries to avoid retaliation.

>Is demon farming really worth the headache?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lm-y2b48Y3k
As you can see here, yes. It can really make your army work.

>you can't base a strategy around it.
Multiplayer Kreegan players pretty much rely on this as a strat.

The only things Inferno has going for it is the relatively cheap cost resource-wise for initial buildup (it's easy to climb up tiers of units, which can be important on poor templates) and the massive, massive PvE power that are Devils (fast non-retal that can solo kill a ton of tough creatures you'd require to endure some losses or bring an entire army to kill, which is sometimes superfluous).

General pointers are to
>sacrifice all your Imps, Gogs and Dogs to become Demons once you're capable of farming
>don't improve your Demons into Horned Demons until you're done farming
>collect all the +HP trinkets because Pit Lords ressurect off HP as well as off unit quantity; with no artifacts you need 9 (35/4 = 9) imps to raise a single Demon, but a single +1 HP trinket makes you only need 7 (35/5), that's huge
>visit all the dwellings with your heroes, every shitty Pikeman counts

Anyway, as the video shows, you can raise a legion of Demons in just 3 months without diplomacy.

>>2424391
For his purposes (playing vs AI) Inferno is fine. I'd still say Rampart and Castle are the single easiest towns to play.

Is it worth the money?

>>2425047
I figure that if you have that kind of money, that dragon population should be a mere fraction of your current army.

But yes it is, stick it on some secondary hero and go conquer some random island or other place for goodies and a faster conclusion to the scenario

>>2425047

that is the exact price of 20 black dragons minus the sulfur so yeah it is.

>>2366129
HA! I kek'd at that pic

>>2368064
Don't remeber how they were in HoMM2, but in 1? JEsus H Christ, Buddha and Muhammed. DONT fight them w peasants! Have horrible PTSD from one fight when I first played it.

>>2375771
GOG.com my good sir.
DRM free and has all kinds of good old games..... its kinda their title. They have all the old M&M games and HoMMs.

>>2381813
Such an awsome game.
I think MM7 might be a better game, but 6 has more of a nostalgic factor.

>>2425151
6 is actually the better game, but 7 has Acromage and nostalgia factor (because it's set in the same setting as the best Heroes game).

I got homm3 a week ago and after many losses I'm starting to get the hang of it. About to try out necropolis, any tips?

>>2425260
>necropolis
You're playing the most powerful faction in the game once it gets rolling.
The best starting hero will be Galthran. +1 speed to Skeletons can be a big deal, and you will start with a lot of them as him, making them your early game powerstack. Isra is also pretty good, but more late than early game. Thant's unique spell is good if he can get Expert Earth, but he can also teach it to your main in the future (I prefer might-oriented heroes to magicians).
Get that Expert Necromancy ASAP. Get all your dwellings+Castle ASAP. Your priority is also to improve the Vampires. Vampire Lords self-ressurect by attacking enemies, making them absolutely ridiculous. Just a couple of them will win any mediocre encounter, because not only do they self-ressurect, they're also fast and don't provoke retaliation. You can probably kill a legion of Dendroids or Dwarves with just properly microed Vampire Lords. Once you amass enough of them, on a bulky enough hero, you can even do this with just them:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhM36Vd-6dI

The most efficient way would be to have a couple of Expert Necromancy characters, split your army between them and amass skeletons from all sides of the map, but there's no need for that if you're a beginner. Just get a single strong hero, win battles, get a shitload of skeletons.

Remember that every dwelling on the map is your friend because low-tier units from other towns can be turned into Skeletons with the Transformer.

DO NOT upgrade your Skeletons into Warriors! If you have all slots filled, your Necromancy skill will raise the dead as Warriors, but only at a 2/3 number efficiency. That's not worth it. Only upgrade Skeletons once you're done farming them and you're about to finish your opponents off. Otherwise, don't bother, it's not such a big upgrade anyway.

>>2425292
Is it worth using the necromancy artefact that changes skeletons to liches?

Seems like it's very inefficient because you get a lot less value out of it.

>>2425817
if you have a good stack of skeletons use it like liches are pretty good i think

>>2425817
its totally worth it. no downside at all, as the number of liches would be equal to the number of skellies you'd get. in any situation 100 liches > 100 skeles. Except that considering youre a necroman, you'd roll up at the start of month 2 with 17000 power liches and you're now sandro

>>2425817
It is the single most powerful artifact in the game. It is actually fucking broken, there is a critical level after which you cant beat the cloak... 7000 skellies? sure, but 2000 liches will end anything

>>2426247
>>2426002
>>2425220

I fucking love that in M&M 7-8 you can turn your party wizard into a lich and have him use the same spell as the liches in HoMM. You can even bounce it off a wall and hurt your own party

>>2369182

why Tamika?
I'm not judging i'm curious...maybe i'll end up on your side of things eventually...

>>2426397
She's the only good looking Necropolis girl.

>>2426409
I was always into Deauxma/Vidomina when I went magic necro

>>2425292

Thanks for the tips, I ended up winning that game, was a 8 way free for all and I ended up wth 6k skeles and 3000 power liches


Any tips for dungeon?

>>2427731
I like to equip mine with motion sensors so I know if the little girls got free. You can never be sure with those tiny arms.

>>2427731
the girl with harpy buffs is pretty cute

So If your main character is very far from the castle, like say 6 - 8 turns away, how do you replenish it with fresh army without tedious travelling back and forth just to get additional army?

>>2428620
Get one of your scout heroes to run reinforcements to your main guy.

>>2428638
I also did that too. I even made "outposts" so each hero will pass the reinforcement to the next "outpost" until it reaches the main guy. Exchanging between "outposts" is tedious as fuck. Aren't there other way? Its the main reason I only use necro so I don't have to "refill" my reinforcements at the start of each week.

>>2428648
well, town portal is the ultimate solution.

another way is geting gud so you dont actually need those reinforcements all that much

>>2428648
If you think that doing this once per week is tedious wait until you get to Heroes 4. There you have to buy reinforcement from all your castles every single day.

>>2424352
campaign enemies are cheesy cheats. the fanmade mods are even worse(WoR mod).

play random games instead. but play at least the vanilla campaign to learn the game mechanics. download an faq for combination artifacts.

>>2428728
>campaign enemies are cheesy cheats.
If you can't beat at least the RoE campaigns, you're retarded. And it's not like there isn't a shitload of cheese you can (or have to!) abuse in the more advanced campaigns, i.e. the infamous Naga fight in AB.

>>2427731
Necropolis guy here, again.
Dungeon is a sweet town. The hero classes available are some of the best in their category (both Overlords and Warlocks are solid). As usual, I prefer a might hero, preferrably Shakti, because he can start even with 100+ troglodytes, which are a massive force in the early game, and also has Tactics. Shakti is a really fun hero and you can do a lot with such a starting army. Gunnar is a very solid hero with Logistics specialty, and pretty much every other Overlord (Ajit, Dace, Damacon, etc.) is good (don't pick Lorelei, though, level 2 specialists always exchange around 20-40 level 1 units for 4-7 level 2 units, and that's a terrible deal unless you're Tyraxor/Stronghold). Notable Warlocks are Deemer (Meteor Shower is a strong spell), Alamar and Jeddite; I mostly like them because they can teach my main hero Ressurection/Meteor, but on their own, Warlocks are good because Dungeon gets Mana Vortex and Warlocks advance a lot in Spell Power (which is way more relevant than Knowledge).

Anyway, as Dungeon on a non-200% difficulty level, you should have no problem with either approach - either mass of Troglodytes or Magic Arrow goodness. You want to get Manticores to block shooters in the early game - they're perhaps the worst level 6 units, but they will still be essential for fighting those pesky shooters.

Late-game, your army is one of the best in the game, and your units are just plain solid, particularly Minotaur Kings.

When fighting shooters with Harpies, remember to first fly adjacent to them without attacking them, otherwise they'll fly away and not block the archers.

>>2427731
>>2429062
More Dungeon tips:
If you have a hero with high Spell Power, you can outfit them with only Black Dragons and abuse their immunity to all magic by painlessly casting Armageddon. This makes an unit that is already a really efficient map clearer on its own even stronger. You can even use this to employ hit'n'run tactics against enemy heroes by rehiring the same magic hero over and over again.

Make sure to abuse the Dragon's 2-hex attack when at all possible, and avoiding it from roasting your troops.

The Portal of Summoning is one of the strongest unique buildings in this game. As Dungeon, if at all possible, make sure to not flag useless dwellings. Portal of Summoning works off the dwelling you've last *visited* (not flagged!), and it effectively doubles your population from that dwelling (because you can hire from town and also from the dwelling at the same time). So, for instance, if you last flagged a Dragon dwelling, you can make your Dragon population even more massive, furthering your domination.

If your strategy is reliant on Ressurection, it might be wise not to upgrade your Red Dragons.

If you're on a poor map and have no perspectives towards getting Mantis and/or Castle in the first week, and want even more mileage out of your strong early game, consider upgrading Troglodyte dwelling for that +1 speed. If I were you, I'd actually focus on learning how to fight battles with meager forces, so that might help.

>>2429062
>And it's not like there isn't a shitload of cheese you can (or have to!) abuse in the more advanced campaigns, i.e. the infamous Naga fight in AB.
>I love autistic russian maps in WoR

Yeah, you go suck on Putin's cock, and tell me that's fun.

>>2429159
What the fuck does WoR (whatever that acronym stands for) have to do with the retail Armageddon's Blade, which isn't exactly the hardest strategy game in existence?

All I'm saying is there's a massive difference between Long Live the Queen and Dragon Slayer.

Hell, it's not like those "autistic" maps aren't challenging, fun, and force you to think outside the box. If I were to generalize you as you did me, I'd probably tell you to have fun always getting dat Archangel rank on random generated 200% maps, thinking beating 7 comps at the same time makes you really hot shit.

>>2429062
>http://heroescommunity.com/viewthread.php3?TID=13677
>there is a sign that sais something like "Congratulations! You've found a secret passage to the end of the campaign" Do not visit it, because your hero will die.

Tell me why this isn't retarded, autist. Your opinion is obviously trash.

>>2429176
>i'm hot shit.

Back to /v/eddit, asshole. You don't belong here.

>>2429114
>As Dungeon, if at all possible, make sure to not flag useless dwellings. Portal of Summoning works off the dwelling you've last *visited* (not flagged!)

Not him but I'm not sure if I understand you correctly. Do you mean that I can flag and visit as many dwellings as I want as long as I visit my dragon dwelling on day 7 or that once I flag a dragon dwelling I have to make sure not to flag/visit any other dwelling?

I always thought the creatures you get from the portal were random and hoped to get something good at the star of the week.

>>2429181
>make three valuable, informative posts about playing Dungeon and Necropolis
>the meritorical value of my posts is supposed to be on the level of "go suck on Putin's cock" and ranting like a retard
>you attack me based on something I never said, because I never made any reference to any maps that aren't already shipped with the game
>I'm supposed to be the bad guy here

I think you're heavily mistaken, my friend.

>>2429179
>implying that 99% of the players don't just look at it, have a giggle/groan at the ridiculously tongue-in-cheek sign, and load the game
>implying I referred to ANY of the fanmade campaigns and not Armageddon's Blade
>implying the Might & Magic universe games are in any way serious business

I'm reinforced in my belief above.

>>2429197
>I always thought the creatures you get from the portal were random and hoped to get something good at the star of the week.

And you're right. Sorry. To make it more clear, when you use Portal of Summoning, it only works off the dwelling you last visited in the first week from it being bought.

I got a little ahead of myself because in some MP matches on random maps it isn't that hard to envision getting a Red Dragon dwelling in week 1 if you start near one and have good luck with getting troglodytes early on (Shakti+level 1 dwelling+two Dungeon heroes in tavern can earn you 200 trogs day 1 if you're lucky).

>>2429207
Fuck I thought I was about to learn a magic trick to get more dragons. Thanks for clearing that up anyway.

>>2429062
>When fighting shooters with Harpies, remember to first fly adjacent to them without attacking them, otherwise they'll fly away and not block the archers.

Isn't there a keyboard combination to disable their swoop-back, so they attack and stay there? I remember that many special attacks had something like that so they only have a positive use and never a negative one (though from the top of my head I only recall being able to manually cast Area-of-effect magics with certain units, like Fairy Dragons).

>>2429232
Maybe it's a WOG thingy?

>>2429232
>>2429239

In Horn of the Abyss you can press G to select the area wich will be hit by the magogs' fireball (pretty sure it works with liches too) but you can't make harpies stay still after attacking.

I don't know if it works in WoG though. Everytime I tried playing it the game just crashed randomly and forced me to restart my computer.

>>2429201
>games are in any way serious business

You're wrong, gamergate rapist.
http://ladyshinga.tumblr.com/post/50164034372/video-game-romance-is-serious-business-people

>>2429926
Damn you showed that GooberGater misogynist.

>>2408427
>- no Doublebuild (you can't build up 2 same towns. Not allowed to build only creature dwellings level3-7. Example: if player start with Dungeon and has 2 Strongholds then he is allowed to build 1 Stronghold and Dungeon)
wat

>>2430759
No fun allowed. Having two towns of the same type would give you an advantage over players with only one town of each type.

>>2430770
Ah, I get it.
On a second read I realize it's for dueling so it's not as autistic as it seems since it's prolly on a tiny map and shit is gonna be decided in like a week or two anyway. It'd get annoying having to remember all the rules on a larger map though.

Any chance of ever getting the source to HOMM3? From what I understand everything is done via code injection which works for existing mods but if you had the source you could probably make multiplayer settings that would take the memorization out of stuff like this--like you have a "game rules" option to select whatever specific ruleset to play by, and then you don't have to worry about adhering to them.

>>2410360
Since the rules are for dueling on a small map it's probably because with DD/fly/wings you can hop over shit to get to shit without fighting stuff or ambush like you said, but with town portal you can only go to towns you already control and the distance between them isn't going to be much more than you could travel by foot anyway, compared to a longer game on a medium or larger map where it's gamebreaking.

>>2423853
morale != morals

>>2430775

No, but there is an open source project to completely re-implement the game. As you'd expect, even for a game like HOMM3 it's a lot of work.

http://forum.vcmi.eu/portal.php

>>2429062
>>2429114
Dungeon is probably the strongest town tied with Tower (obviously not counting Necropolis since their skellies are ridicolous)

All their units are above average, and just like Tower the only real problem is that they need alot of resources.

>>2431150
Castle and Rampant >> Tower.

Tower is just expensive as fuck to build.

They also NEED to upgrade their Gremlins and Stone Golems to just make those early units useful and not total garbage.

>>2431224
I'd rank Tower over Castle. Castle is equally expensive (fuck getting champions) I'd say that Tower's got better units, except the arcangels

Rampart I always find incredibly easy to play with, for some reason. Those Grand Elves are too good.

>>2431224

Honestly, even Iron Golems are pretty crappy. And Garg's are practically useless.

>>2431325
Castle's first three level units are all great.

Tower's Gargoyles are shit and Gremlins and Golems are worthless without an upgrade.

>>2431335
Doesn't really matter since all you need to beat anything the first week or so is a bunch of master gremlins and a couple of single stone gargoyles to shuffle around your enemies

Also Golems are really good in sieges. That's something.

>>2411202
>>Solmyr is overrated as fuck, you want your magic hero for early game to cast Magic Arrow a couple times per day, meanwhile Solmyr expends his mana pool in just 1-2 fights and then needs a well, if there ain't one he is a sitting duck,
He has an obscenely better mana to damage ratio than other low level magic heroes though (especially considering access to spells they have), which makes him great for busting through fights you otherwise wouldn't be able to get through in week 1 (and maybe week 2). If you're using him correctly, you should be just barely able to win those one or two fights and have been unable to win them otherwise.

He's pretty fucking useless as a main hero later on though, so after he's done that I move my main army to my real main hero. After that he's a top tier scout character, as with just a couple of fast units he can get through easier fights pretty well so you can expand in areas away from where your main hero is.

>>2431601
>He's pretty fucking useless as a main hero later on though
That's hyperbole at best. He's a Wizard. He's 95% the same as the other 50 wizards. Specialisation isn't the character, even in this case. It's not like he's got an Eagle Eye specialty.

>>2431150
No, Tower is nowhere close to top tier due to bad heroes (all Alchemists start with one irrelevant skill and have weak skill progression, and Wizards are never going to be main hero material), huge costs, difficulty taking banks due to difficulty of getting them on your native terrain (which is a big deal), low overall speed of the army (makes it difficult to take initiative), awkward build order, etc.

>>2431325
Castle can get Angels week 1 on a rich map and they're immediately useful due to being fliers with high stats. Tower is highly unlikely to achieve the same effect due to being pretty much forced to upgrade Workshop day 1, you can at most afford Nagas+Castle. Furthermore, Giants, straight out of the box, are mediocre units, being oafish walkers that you'd really hate to lose but they're not that tanky either. It takes too long to get them rolling, and their late game isn't even *that* stellar.

Tower can be a strong late game town, potentially beat Castle, but there's good reason it's hardly picked in MP. In SP, of course, you can do anything with anyone and still win, but still, I'd rather play something like Barbarian Breakout with Stronghold or Fortress.

>>2431627
He's useless as a main hero because a magic hero is useless as a main hero. With the existence of Orb of Inhibition, Attack/Defense scaling much better than SP/Knowledge, and bad secondary skills for mages, plus the magic system working in favor of might heroes, you just don't want a Wizard. If you want a magic hero, you want a Warlock or an Elementalist because they get high SP. Or a Battle Mage, because they're basically more versatile Barbarians (less brute force, tho). High level Solmyr's Chain Lightning is maybe 20 damage higher than any other mage's.

If you play Tower, you want to buy yourself a Barbarian/Overlord/Ranger/Knight (preferrably Orrin). If you can't, pick Neela.

>>2431601
Fair enough.

man, i so wanna play 3 again but my cds won't work and I don't feel like paying gog for something I already physically own

since that fucking hd version came out, I can only seem to be able to find that among torrents

>>2431728
Do you still have it installed?

>>2431627
Basically what >>2431695 said.
He's good compared to other wizards (specialization and starting skills), but magic heroes are poor candidates for a main hero in general and wizards are worse than other magic heroes since their stat distribution favors knowledge over spellpower.

>>2431627
>He's 95% the same
He's got a unique specialty and is the only Wizard that starts with the sorcery skill.
>as the other 50 wizards.
There are only 8 other wizards.
>Specialisation isn't the character, even in this case.
What

>>2431881
>the only Wizard that starts with the sorcery skill.
Which is horrible unless you specialize in it.
>There are only 8 other wizards.
There's, however, plenty of other magic heroes, some of them way better than Solmyr, if only by the virtue of having diplomacy (Cyra), a better spell (Luna) or just being better overall (Gundula, Dessa, Deemer)

Solmyr here

just came to say that you're all faggots and that I would rek you irl with my chain lightning specialty

> spend all day every day studying magic in your tower, trying to ignore the blaring sound of the barbarians partying emanating from the tavern
> up late in the library attached to your tower (shit's sweet) finally master the coolest spell ever, Chain Lightening
> you emerge from your seclusion, ready to wreck all the Heroes of Might with the power of Magic
> get your ass handed to you because instead of studying all the other heroes were out getting experience and leveling up

>>2429114
>you can outfit them with only Black Dragons and abuse their immunity to all magic by painlessly casting Armageddon

That saved my bacon once a million years ago. I was using my warlock hero in some battle that I was obviously gonna lose, and I had a stack of black dragons who were still alive. As I was nearing defeat, I thought "fuck this asshole!" and cast armageddon, completely forgetting that they were immune to it. Everything died except my dragons.
I was so shocked/happy that I still remember that specific event.

>>2424391
>>2424409
Castle is probably the obvious best for people that aren't gonna completely geek out on the game and master every trick and nuance.

Play the one you like best, though, it will lead to a more fun experience.

I usually play Rampart, and I choose green if it's available.

>>2407513
>What's your favorite unit? Based on looks, ability etc.
Titans. I fell in love with them in H2, but they're still cool as balls in 3. Giant roman-armored dudes that throw lightning, it's just cool. I like tower towns, but not in particular. Rampart is by far my favorite, and grand elves are a close 2nd to my favorite creature (because I dig elves in general). Phoenixes are up there as well, but I like the ones from H2 waaaaay more than the expansion ones in 3.

>>2406451
I like the chick that looks like aragorn from the rampart castle. I usually pick her.

>>2398640
your post was noticed and appreciated, anon

>>2431728
why dont you just torrent it then? Unlike me, you payed to actual developers and while technically not legaly, but morally it is totally OK if you download it.

or just wait for some discount and cough out the 1,5 euro or something (its what I payed...)

>>2387090
It's almost sad sometimes, when things are going good for you. You beat the map so quickly you wish there was more to it.

>>2433036
why not playing the actual aragorn? Or it is not based on sexual atrraction towards aragorn?

Its like you are not playing Nimbus. How can you not main Nimbus? You dont like puppies you sick fuck? Did the puppy do something wrong that you dont want to keep it forever even if it meant eagle eyeing every spell there is?

>>2433051
http://heroes.thelazy.net/wiki/File:Hero_Mephala.png
I think she's pretty cute.

I have no idea what you're talking about, btw.

>>2433092
druid hero Elleshar, in LOTR, that is one of Aragorns name.

http://heroes.thelazy.net/wiki/Nimbus

Read heroes biographies:)

Have they actually added the random map generator to the "hd release" of 3? Considering buying it

>>2433602
Buy this one instead:

https://thepiratebay.am/torrent/7942070/Heroes_of_Might_and_Magic_III_Complete_Edition_GOG

>>2433637
Where is the payment button :^) I want it for steam

>>2433602
There is a random map generator in normal Heroes 3 too...

>>2433664
No. Random maps were only in Shadows of Death.
Heroes 2 had them in the base game.

>>2433602
Just get the unofficial HOMM3+ HD made by a bunch of Russians which adds stuff like being able to choose the template according to which your map is to be generated along with a ton of other goodies.

It's even the first google result for HoMM3 HD: https://sites.google.com/site/heroes3hd/

Fuck that new HD edition, it doesn't do anything useful, the MP isn't significantly easier to set up (everyone worth their salt plays on GameRanger anyway) and there's no expansion packs.

Unless you absolutely really need it on Steam.

>>2433978

Speaking of the Russians, hows the Horn of the Abyss?

>>2433646
in steam the only one is the hd release that is shit

>>2434202
>Horn of the Abyss

I couldn't get the random map generator in the latest version to work.

So im playing through the heroes chronicles, the seccond chapter - Conquest of the Underworld

turns out i have to assemble the angelic allience, one artifact per campaign level BUT i had the first item, the Helm of Heavenly Enlightenment snaged by a shitty scouting demon hero who for some reason was my ally on that mission and it was never addressed, im very close to completing the set and Tarnum's stat points are all in the 30s but still how fucked am I without it? Im so fucking mad holy shit, it was guarded by a pack of magogs in some farass tunnel on the map i discovered with my 1 pikeman scouting guy but then the "ally" came, took it, then stayed at his castle the whole game. I decided i didnt really need it since it would carry over but now im way to far in the campaign to get back and get it.

ANYONE ELSE HERE SHARE MY RAGE?

>>2437264
Sorry anon but I don't. The picture shows my Tarnum at the end of the campaign (hard difficulty, 206 days, 1295 points).

The artifact was located south of your starting castle IIRC. It was way closer to you than your ally. Still annoying that ally can casually steal it from you.

Having Angelic Alliance made Tarnum into unstoppable demigod and made the last maps very easy (I was able to easily take down devils with pikemen). So unless you like feeling powerful as hell don't sweat it. Final boss will be a douchebag without it though because he has Armor of the Damned.

I'm actually puzzled by one thing you wrote. Why was one of Inferno towns your ally? Was this really not addressed? Maybe in one of late textboxes on first map?

My friend bought me HD version of HoMM 3 so I finally decided to finish all campaigns from Restoration of Erathia (I actually never finished them all). They were quite enjoyable however some of them didn't let you transfer heroes nor artifacts between missions (which saddened me greatly).

Anyway. I was messing around in "Song for the Father" campaign. For those who don't remember: this is the campaign where you fight off Necropolis' forces led by resurrected King Gryphonheart. This campaign transfers your heroes between missions so I could make some powerful heroes.

Here's my little story about what I did in that campaign:
>Get Sandro in first mission and level him up generously
>Acquire Town Portal and Fly in second mission
>Enemy can't comprehend my magic and gets devoured by my Spook Soldiers
>Final map
>Start with 3 towns. One of them is Rampart with 5th level of Magic Guild
>Evil idea popped up in my head
>Reset the map until Dimension Door is acquired
>herewego.jpg
>Enemy Necropolis located and conquered in 3 days
>See tomb behind Necropolis
>"Oh nice, this must be Gryphonheart's tomb. I wonder if I can get something from it"
>Teleport there
>Acquire nothing
>Picture related happened
Did someone else do this? I actually laughed at this situation with my friend.

One more question. Is there a way to play other HoMM 3 campaigns on steam version of the game?

>>2438329
huh i didnt expect to actualy get an ontopic reply since chronicles are obsucure even among heroes fans

I know it was closer but i couldnt properly reach it because i was too keen on the cat and mouse game with the ai, runnig through the tunnels and all. Thats the problem with these campaigns, on the smaller maps i'd missout good portions of the story because i would complete the mission before the day which would trigger a story event. Like for example i didnt really know that Tarnum's crush died untill he casualy mentioned it a few missions after. Is there any website with detailed story of the chronicles? Wikies just give vague discriptions.

>I'm actually puzzled by one thing you wrote. Why was one of Inferno towns your ally? Was this really not addressed? Maybe in one of late textboxes on first map?

my bad, it was an inferno hero who took it but the ally was dungeon, then again it doesent really make sence why the underworld guys would ally with the good guys, is it even explained in "Jorm's Ambush" ? I rushed the inferno guy on my side of the level because of spells and by the time i got to the undergrond, my AI ally had, surprisingly taken out the necromancers, this time sparing the valuable loot

>>2438463
lel, as for the other campaigns just pirate them, the original company is deader than Sandro

>>2438463
When I played that mission the AI opponent actually managed to do that with his own hero, leaving the city open for me to take.

>>2438516
>huh i didnt expect to actualy get an ontopic reply since chronicles are obsucure even among heroes fans
This fact saddens me because I love these campaigns. I finally finished them all last November (even took screenshots of every Tarnum at the end of campaigns and scores so I could compare them later).

>i'd missout good portions of the story because i would complete the mission before the day which would trigger a story event
When you are ready to finish a map just save the game, give yourself some Archangels via cheat and skip turns in front of objective/enemy castle. This way you won't miss out on story and won't be ranked as cheater if you load the game. At least I wasn't.

http://mightandmagic.wikia.com has really good descriptions of story and missions (they are not vague at all).
Additionally, there is one diary-like description in polish language which is really cool.

>Like for example i didnt really know that Tarnum's crush died untill he casualy mentioned it a few missions after
Was it from the "Warlords of the Wasteland" mission where you conquer swamp people?

>my bad, it was an inferno hero who took it but the ally was dungeon, then again it doesent really make sence why the underworld guys would ally with the good guys, is it even explained in "Jorm's Ambush"?
"The Boatman" has Helm of Heavenly Enlightment. One of the Inferno towns is allied to you in this mission.
"The Jorm's Ambush" has different artifact (pendant?) and dungeon town is allied to you in it.
IIRC, it was explained in Jorm's Ambush. At that point of the game, you know that Jorm stole Gryphonheart's soul and was quite unpopular in underground (because he sought duke position in underworld). Tarnum decided to seek Deezelisk (an actual duke of underworld) because he would be helpful in finding Jorm. I assume dungeon is either enemy of Jorm or underling of Deezelisk.
But still, what about Inferno town from second map?

Also, how far are you into Heroes Chronicles if I may ask?

>>2438682
well i think it was the boathman who stole my artifact then, probably

chapter two, the level where you get the sandals of the saint (5?/6?) this is my tarnum litteraly after picking them up and i stoped playing because i got mad i missed out on collecting the angelic alliance. Statwise im not worried about the final fight since i have the common autism known as pick up every skillpoint before you finish the level, so my tarnum is even stronger than yours without the helmet and 2/3 maps worth of skillpoints

for my last skillslot i was forced to pick between balistics and pathfinding, if only i could use WoG and make them useful

>>2439424
Yep, looks like "The Boatman".

If it triggers you so much then just start playing other chapters. You can pick up everything that's not "Clash of Dragons" or "The Sword of Frost" (these are the last two chronologically IIRC). Ah, and "The Fiery Moon" continues story from "The World Tree".
"Masters of the Elements" is my favourite probably. The story is very funny and the gameplay is sweet in this one (and you transfer some powerful shit between missions).

At least you got Diplomacy in your skillset. I don't remember if I had an opportunity to pick it. And we both ended up without Logistics which I find funny.

>>2439967
nah i really gotta finish the campaign, i dont mind the lack of stats from the set but i do mind the lack of free expert prayer every battle

after i complete this chapter i will probably switch to heroes 4 and to the heaven campaign and with that i would have pritty much completed all of the heroes 4 vanila and expansion campaigns

would having two heroes with maxed out tactis stack? like 100% creature offence from 1 hero + 100% offence from the other?

>At least you got Diplomacy in your skillset. I don't remember if I had an opportunity to pick it. And we both ended up without Logistics which I find funny.

got it at a univercity early on, really helped me with the other missions

Underrated heroes anyone?

Cyra
>Speciality Haste
>Starts with haste
>Starts with diplomacy
>fashionable hat

>>2440302
Loynis

>>2440302
Ryland
>looks like fucking robin hood
>boosts dendroid atack and defence, the +1 movement speed is really nice
>diplomacy

is there a list of links to get map/mod packs ?
i just started playing homm III

>>2440559
Beat the maps that come with the game first.

So Conflux was a big fuck you to the whiny player base and delibrately overpowered, right?

>Phoenix is by far the best level 7, due to speed and ridicolous growth
>Boasts best level 1,2,3 units easy to clean up beginning map
>Tons of magic/mind immunities
>Grail gives you EVERY spell
>Best heroes in the game - Elementalist
>Magic University to get your magic shools

I like the little things tough, like how you get 20 free pixies from the creature dwelling.

>>2440343
more like overrated
in comparison with him Adela has Diplomacy and Caitlin can be handy on 200% maps for the gold
Loynis' Prayer is strong but he doesn't have a great early game (Clerics suck) and Learning is the worst skill in the game

>>2440302
Jabarkas. My 2nd choice (1st is Orrin) for perfect Tower hero (high Attack progression and starts with Archery), and boosts Stronghold's already stronk early game. Even if he's used outside his town and his specialty goes to waste, he remains a Barbarian (one of the best hero classes).

All Archery people are IMHO some of the strongest early game heroes, even on towns who have poor shooters. Wystan and Calh aren't bad at all, and can be a savior on really poor maps where even the cheap towns have issues.

And, of course, Gurnisson for that OP early game ballista.

>>2440782
I believe it was stated somewhere that Conflux was supposed to be a campaign-only town and also supposed to be even worse in those respects to give the player a really challenging AI opponent, only it had to be put into the spotlight once fans unfamiliar with M&M lore reacted in outrage over the Forge. As such, it probably would have been fine.

3DO really screwed NWC over, it's sad.

>>2440782
Well, I can't say if they made Conflux deliberately overpowered but it certainly looks like it. I feel that if they remade all elementals and fixed Phoenixes (increase their cost and/or reduce their growth) it could be balanced town (despite having Magic University).

Two more things:
Pixies are not the best level 1 unit (even considering their growth).
Are Elementalist really the best heroes in the game? I seriously don't know.

>>2440302
Grindan

>Starts with Slow
>Starts with Earth Magic
>30 mana
>350 gold for good measure.
Could you have a stronger early game?

>>2440874
>Pixies are not the best level 1 unit (even considering their growth).
It's a fast flyer with no retaliation who happens to synergize very well with Conflux strategies and units.

A powerstack of upgraded Pixies can easily run circles around enemies like Throngs of Zombies/Dwarves/Dendroids and pick them off one by one, with little skill involved, especially if Spirit of Oppression is in play. Pixies can block shooters, Pixies can do hit'n'run against walkers, and when split are a great bait for faster enemies so that your Stormies can shoot their shit up.

You want your level 1 units for early game, primarily, unless you're Necropolis. Pixies completely crush it, and also help with strategies like Luna's firewall abuse because they fly and are fast. Halberdiers, Centaur Captains, Master Gremlins etc. have better stats and fill certain niches but they don't allow for so many options in comparison.

>Are Elementalist really the best heroes in the game? I seriously don't know.
They're not might heroes so not really, but they do have a bonus primary stat point over other wizard classes (for some reason) and they have Ciele and Luna, both extremely strong heroes.

>>2440868
> fans unfamiliar with M&M lore reacted in outrage over the Forge

I'm still outraged about _that_

>>2399218
Yes. Might and Magic games dwelve more deeply into that. Especially MM6, I guess.

>>2440868
>>2441659
To be fair, the audiences for HOMM and M&M were mostly separate and NWO hadn't really put any M&M lore that was outside of tolkienesque fantasy into the games.

Sure there was some stuff in some of the single scenarios for homm2 but it wasn't clear that those were related to the overall world and not just a story for those certain maps, and there were only like 2 anyway iirc.

If they wanted to really have M&M stuff in HOMM they should have started earlier; as it was it didn't fit the existing HOMM universe and some of it was plain retarded anyway (the Kreegans are actually space aliens that look exactly like devils and live in medieval castles because reasons.)

>>2441659

It was still seriously jarring internally.

>>2360973
bumping since this thread got on the last row of the catalog

>>2444512
how come he lost only 3 angels and 6 dwarfs ?
He should lose much more unless there was readllyt huge gap in hero stats.

>>2444573
i think its because i only focused them since there was no point in targeting the others, also he might have used ressurection, dont remember its a really old picture

>>2444512

What's with the Green Efreet?

>>2444705
the commander of the elementalist hero, in WoG your heroes can have commanders which are units that are also semi-heroes that level up with the hero, have their diferent sets of skills which can be leveled up and depending on which skills you have developed you will get a special ability, they can also use spesific artifacts

Tamika best hero

>>2444932
I never understood why WoG needed to add so much random shit, bloat the game with layers for the sake of layers, not strategy or fun.
It seems like it just makes everything more complicated for no reason.

>>2445037
At least it's all modular. I just use some convenience settings like the buy all creatures button, plus changes/rebalances of faction, skill (merging first aid/ballistics/artillery, making mysticism and eagle eye less horrible, etc.) and hero specializations, with a handful of new artifacts enabled.

I'm not a fan of creature XP, all the ugly mashed together and tinted custom creatures, level 8 creatures or commanders & henchmen, so I leave that kind of thing off.

>>2445037
what the fuck nigga this is heroes 3 not crusader kings 2, commanders are strategic and fun, adventure caves are the shit (except when they crash)

>>2445076
creature xp is cool,it gives you a reason to go out and fight and it makes sence that seasoned veterans would be better fighters with better abilities than fresh weekend soldiers bought on day1

there is litteraly nothing wrong with having extra creatures in the game, commanders and henchmen add a more developinig vibe, with them you are not forced to chose between scouting and eagle eye