/vr/ - Retro Games

Retroarch and Retroarch

>>2449796
None, they all suck. Get an original Xbox and turn it into a emu-box

NOT RETRO
SAGE AND IGNORE

All the emulators on PS2 suck, no joke.
It can't even run MOST NES games right, even mario games run like shit.

Only mod a PS2 for PS2 ISO's on HDD

What is the best modern console for emulation? I like the Wii

I take it the PS3 is the only machine which can play PS1 and PS2 games off a USB without lagging cutscenes, am I right?

>>2449856
Again, get an original Xbox. It can emulate everything up to the PS1 with virtually no issue, and the fact it uses USB controllers means with a little leg work you can get each consoles controller working on it.

>>2449856

OG Xbox or Wii.

I like the Wii better for more controller options (I like using the wiimote sideways for famicom/PCE games, it feels just right) and the 240p output which the Xbox lacks, goes down as low as 480 only.

Also the entire virtual console catalogue which is a shitload of NES, SNES, Genesis, PCE, even Neo Geo are perfect emulation.
Wii scene is also huge as fuck so there are many good emulators outside of the official VC (finding WADs for the VC is aslo pretty easy so no need to pay either)

>>2449874
Keep in mind the original Xbox used USB for it's controller interface so, assuming you have EvoX installd, you can just drop the appropriate driver into the appropriate partition and use any USB gamepad

>>2449796

I know for a fact that Wii emulators can output at 240p and it looks pretty damn good. The Wii is easily hacked and has a variety of controller choices. The Wii U scales the output when the vWii is used though.
tl:dr try a Wii, especially for 240p.

>>2449873

I have an Xbox here but I don't think it does 240p. Are USB HID controllers only for emulators?

>>2449879
I would assume they only work on emulators and homebrew, but don't quote me. All I know is you pretty much find the driver for Windows2k, assign a specific name to it, and drop it into the right spot. I remember thinking "OH SHIT! I can finally use a PS1 controller to play SNES on the Xbox!" when it was figured out.

>>2449856
Wii for 240p & easy exploit.

>>2449873
>Xbox
>It can emulate everything up to the PS1 with virtually no issue

>>2449804
Xbox can't output 240p therefore it is disqualified of any measure of being good.

>>2449856
Wii overall, Gamecube has slightly better video output but less compatibility these days.

>>2449893

>Gamecube has slightly better video output
Using those extremely expensive component cables? Or is there a difference between the plain analog RBG/S-vid/Composite output?

>>2449878
You'll also have to use an adapter because the original Xbox controller connector is not standard usb. It's only a buck or two on ebay, but something to remember.

>>2449898

Pretty much across the board better on the analog output. Gamecube composite video is the best composite video I've ever seen from a console.

>>2449902

Those adaptors are useful for modding the system in the first place. I used one for getting the Splinter Cell exploit on the system.

>>2449904

Huh. The Wii's RGB SCART output always seemed fine enough for me.

>>2449908
The Wii's RGB is good, but the Gamecube is just a little bit better.

>>2449902
I made my own by cutting the end off of a controller and cutting a USB extender in half then splicing the pieces together appropriately. That's also how I used pen drives as memory cards on un-modded xboxes.

>>2449890
To each their own. I like being able to turn it on and go, especially after the 2 HDD mod.

>>2449804
Kinda sad since it is so easy to hack a PS2 these days and they are so plentiful. I guess homebrew came to this system too little, too late.

PS2 controllers are very nice for playing games too.

>>2449915
>destroying a perfectly good controller just to plug it into your shitbox

>>2449920
>One way or the other I need to cut the Xbox end off and splice a male USB end onto it so I can plug it into my computer

Not retro, thread marked for termination.

>>2449997
Emulations threads have always counted as retro as long as you're talking about emulating systems that are older.

can Wii do 240p MAME over component?

If you have a HDTV = xbox with component cables in 1080p

otherwise, wii on 240p on crt

>>2450003

Don't know about MAME particularly, but other emulators definitely do 240p over component so MAME more than likely will.

>>2450004

Xbox does 1080i max.

>>2450010
your mom did 1080 squats on my cock last night kid

>>2450021

>>2450021
You're into necrophilia?

>>2449796
I'll try and answer your question without considering that there are tons of better option than emulating on a PS2.

From my personal experience, the only emulator that works with no issues(and mind that with "works" i mean exactly that, it works, it does its job of letting you play the games...it works just like ZSNES works, no word on how it does or on how accurate it is) is Commodore64 and GB-GBC.
All the rest is only worth it if you'r eloking for a very occasional play with some very popular games.
NES: it either works too fast(SMB1 says 60fps, but everything goes much faster than on an original NTSC-US NES) with sound desync, or on correct speed with garbled sound and constant sound desync.
SMS: works, if you're lucky with no major issues, but most likey it'll freeze or resets itself after 10-15 min of playing. Some "solved" this issue using savestates, but then you have an higher chance of it freezeing right when the savestate is created, ending up with a corrupt savestate.
GB-GBC: works, no major issues. Hoever, completely ignore Pokemon games: the clock works as he wants, sometimes, after loading a save, you'll find out it went forward many hours or days even if you saved and quit 20 min earlier.
All this when it saves, because mos ttimes it just wont.
Savestates in Pokemon games will just mess things around causing errors.
SNES: works with quite a few major famous games, if you're ok with the sound and lag doing some jumps every minute or 2(when friends wanted to play SF2 or SuperBomberman 2, we played fine ignoreing those jumps)
Genesis/Megadrive: hit and miss, 70-80% miss.
Nothing works but playing, aka no saving or savestates, either because the most stabel version of the emu doesnt support savestates yet, or because the version that does wil end up with corrupt savestates.
Ingame saves, when present, only lead to corrupt saves or no saves at all.
Amiga: huge hit and miss, where hits are so hard to properly configure is not even worth trying it

>>2449796
I forgot which one I used. But I got it off of Zophar's. It's probably still there un-updated in it's 10 year old glory.

>>2449997
>I can't read

>>2450038
What a shame, the PS2 easily has the power to emulate 16 and 8 bit systems full speed and with great accuracy.

is the ps2 considered ok to talk about now?

>>2450202
Only in the context of playing retro games on it.

Capcom Classics Collection = ok

Devil May Cry = not ok

>>2449868
It's a shame the PS2 emulator is rubbish, I tried playing Ace Combat 4 and Klonoa 2, both had problems.

>>2451338
Why emulate a PS2 anyway, though? They are easy enough to find, and softmodding them is easy easy easy.

>>2449868

Yes, but
>IDE hard drive in a PS2 fat is even faster, and requires nothing further to softmod if you can read the drive and have a network adaptor
>Unless you're using a fat PS3 then PS2 is emulated and not that great
>PS1 on PS3 is emulated and less accurate than PC emulators

>>2451349
Wasn't there a way to play PS1 games off the PS2 hard drive has well? I suppose if there was it would have been brought up, but I feel like it was possible.

>>2451356

There is, but that's also an emulator and I can't vouch for its accuracy. If you want to play PS1 games on a PS2, you either use a modchip or use a soft mod and a swap trick.

>>2450000
Ps2 not retro, thread marked for termination.

>>2451360
I always just used an app that allowed me to boot PS1 games without traditional swapping or a mod chip. I was always concerned about the laser though.

>>2451380

What app is that? And it runs burned CDs?

>>2451420
I'm pretty sure it's just a stock option when you have the memory card mod. My PS2's power buttons broke like two years ago so I'm foggy, but all it really did was allow you to open the tray to do the swap rather than using the key to open it.

>>2451432

Wow, OK. I need to research this. I always thought you needed a slide card or a flip top lid on the fat, or covered sensors on the slim.

>>2451440
Nah, like I said, the way I always had it working was start the program, put in a retail PS1 game, hit either X or O to open the tray, insert the backup, and hit start.

Sure, you're still swapping, but it's way easier than using the key.

>>2451686

Is there any way you can help me find this program? Any names you can drop, any way to get the files off your memcard?

>>2451694
I think my nephew has a PS2 that I should be able to boot my memory card from.


The more I look into it the more I'm thinking I might have been remembering it wrong, but if I find it I will let you know.

>>2451714

Cheers, here's hoping. Worst happens is that I just have to use a slide card for PS1 on PS2 which isn't too much of an issue, since I don't care too much if my drive gets damaged.

http://www.theisozone.com/downloads/playstation/tools/48-bit-hdd-osd-110-and-preinstalled-applications/

you can flash this image to any compatible hdd and avoid all free mcboot shit.

just flash it and you're good to go, no mods, nothing.

AND IT COMES WITH GRADIUS GAIDEN (PSX) so it's sorta retro

>>2451741
Get PSXLauncher.elf then because from looking at that it actually stops the drive so you aren't damaging the discs or whatever. Maybe that's what I was thinking of. I know I got most of my elfs from sksapps

>>2451759

Yeah, that one requires that you do some kind of swap trick.

Is there a tool that lets me patch the region of PS1 games? PALfag here. NTSC games will run at NTSC framerate/res on a PAL PS2, right?

>>2449856
A laptop with a tv out.

>>2451824
I'm pretty sure that's not how it works.

>>2451835

Well bollocks. Is there any way around that? I can't stand PAL bars.

>>2449804
>>2449848
Are you guys retarded? PS2 emulation was down pat in fucking 2007.

>>2449804
>>2449848

>>2452293
If by "down pat" you meen "glitch out, crash, don't emulate at full speed, and are poorly designed" then yes, you are right.

>>2452319
Holy shit, you tripfags really are a bunch of fucking clowns.

>>2452319
My PC can run ZOE, DDS, ACE, and MGS3 better than my PS3 can

>>2452319
>didn't read the thread
tripfags boys and girls

>>2452293
>I can't read that OP wants emulators that RUN ON THE FUCKING PS2 CONSOLE
Not a PS2 Emulator

>IM LITERALLY RETARDED!

>>2452389
Well, in that case, see >>2452293
Underageb&

>>2452350
They are talking about running emulators ON the PS2 you knob.

>>2449796
NES: FCEUltra is great
Gameboy/Gameboy color: Info GB is great
ATARI 2600: PVCS Reloaded is great
Master System: PSMS Reloaded is great
SNES: Snes Station is good for most games
Sega Genesis: PGEN starts to slowdown if you play a game for a long time

>>2449796
why don't you just buy a cheap ps2 and a memorycard with free mcboot on it?
then you can burn all the games you want or play it off a hdd

>>2453593

>I can't read

>>2453595
yeah sorry that i made a mistake.
but could you go back to /v/ and never come back?

>>2449874
>perfect emulation
N64's VC emulator still has bugs.

The PS2 isn't retro.

>>2453667

Playing retro games on the PS2 is.

>>2453669
Whoops, I dun goof'd too. Reading is hard when you're hungover, derp.

>>2453665

I didn't try any N64 game on it other than Mario kart 64 and Sin and Punishment, which seemed to run perfectly (although I didn't like how S&P controlled with the Gamecube controller, I need a legit N64 controller to play that).
Anyway I was mostly referring to the consoles I was listing, I've tried tons of VC games of NES, SNES, Genesis, Turbografx and Neo Geo and they all were flawless, or so it seemed to me.

PS2 is nowhere near fast enough to run anything but hacked up ancient versions of emulators. Just get a Wii for emulation, it's much better for this.

So how's the PS2 for playing PS1 games? Any advantage to buying a PS1 instead?

>>2455482
PS1 emulation on the PS2 is still a little buggy, you're better off soft moding a Japanese SNES, it outputs at 420p and the S-SMP sound chip clocks 24.576 MHz

>>2455482
There are a few PS1 games that aren't compatible with the PS2:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PlayStation_games_incompatible_with_PlayStation_2

Probably the biggest advantage is that the PS2 can output PS1 games through component. Since RGB never caught on as a standard in the US (only available on PVMs, ect) Audio/Video enthusiasts in North America were limited to S-video as the best quality video signal until the PS2 came out. After that, users could play PS1 games through YPbPr on high-end consumer sets.

The PS2 outputs RGB as well if you have the appropriate SCART cable, and can send 240p signals over RGB and YPbPr.

>>2449796
Picodrive (Sega Genesis)
POPS (Psone with iso support)
GPSP Kai (Gameboy Advance)