/vr/ - Retro Games

>>2440063
Cool.

Woah spoilers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgDFobO20YQ

>>2440063
...was really easy?

I have a hard time keeping all the Wily fights in my head, but for some reason I seem to recall MM2, MM3, and *maybe* MM4 being the most enjoyable. I just played MM8 so that's still fresh in my mind - it's not bad.

>>2440532
why do faces on localized megaman games always look so weird?

>>2440589
They were marketing the games toward the autistic demographic.

>>2440063
Just beat this game today. Final boss incredibly easy with tomahawk.

>>2440063
/vr/ - miiverse general

>Playing MM6
>Ever.
Why you would do this when there's so many better MM games out there?

>>2440063
>wily
Don't you mean Mr.X?

>>2440532
The faces remind me of that Yaranaika guy.

>>2440532
>yfw there will never be a MM Powered Up 3
>tfw there will never be a version of MM3 that wasn't rushed to all hell
>tfw you'll never get to battle the original Top Man or the true Gamma fight they had in mind

>>2441572
Glad i'm not the only one who thought that.

>>2440063
>that really intricately drawn boss
>against Megaman's prehistoric 1987 sprites

I swear, Megaman must've been the original case of "let's reuse Morrigan's sprites from 1994 all the way up to 2001". That would be like using Mario's SMB1 sprite in SMB3.

>>2441684
That they reused the same sprite for MM9/10 was completely fucking retarded.

>>2441546
>MM6
>bad
Fuck with this meme, bosses may be not as memorable and seem lazy but the gameplay is solid.

>>2441576
>the original Top Man or the true Gamma fight they had in mind

Details? This is all I could find

>"I focused entirely on Top Man for an entire week, but lost all of the data in a big [computer] crash when someone tripped over the power cord. I was so devastated, but with everything so fresh in my mind I was able to get back to where I was in about three days. This incident is why I'll never forget Top Man... sometimes I wonder if my first attempt would have made a better Top Man (laughs)." -Keiji Inafune [1]

>lost all of the data in a big [computer] crash when someone tripped over the power cord

>computer crash
>someone tripped over the power cord

lol

>>2441770

Though I wouldn't put it past Capcom for just being cheap and lazy, but wasn't that the point of the games? To look and feel like the originals?

>>2442868
MM7 artstyle was pretty fucking good, I'm a big fan of classic style but it grew up on me.

>>2442857
>but the gameplay is solid
There are almost no rooms in the game in which enemies are placed in such a way that they're even the least bit threatening.

Also I hope whomever was in charge of choosing color palettes got fired because good god there are so many awful color choices its ridiculous.

>>2440532
>>2441572

>>2440532

Why did you made me upload it?

>top this depression

>>2443645
Knight and Tomahawk stages have precious color palettes

Isn't it comfy?

>>2443945
>Isn't it comfy?
No, it isn't, given how horribly the foreground and background clash.

>>2443980
>contrast

>>2443980
Perhaps that was done to show the contrast between the rugged, warm, and natural desert landscape in the BG and the cold and sleek mechanical structures that MM/Rock is exploring.

>>2441546
2, 3 and 6 are the best classic Megamans, dweeb.

>>2441684
>>2441770
Fuck off

>>2444636
>2: half the stages are crap, half the weapons are crap
>3: rushed game, doc robots are borked, turn around lag, most piss easy wily fortress ever
>6: stages have no coherency in terms of themes or colors, enemy place is an after thought, can't jump out of slides, shit weapons
So sorry you've apparently never played a truly good MM. Might I recommend NES 4, GB 4 & 5, MM7, and MM8?

>>2443980
You mean how the foreground and background crash

>>2445201
>good MM
>MM7

oh boy

>>2441546

6 is my favorite

>>2445201
>dumping on 2 this much

I don't know man, I thought the stages in2 were ok, the weapons ok and the bosses kinda lame.

>>2450989
>the stages
Shit tier: Crash Man, Wily 1, Wily 4
Crap tier: Heat Man, Quick Man, Wily 3
>the weapons
Useless tier: Crash Bomber, Atomic Fire, Time Stopper, Bubble Lead
Redundant tier: Item 3

>>2451689
I'll give you Wily 1 and 4 (and on thinking about it, I'll give you 3 because of the fucking boss), but there's nothing horrible about crash man's or quick man's stages. If anything, air man's stage belongs on the crap tier list before those two.

I agree with you on the items except for the crash bomber. Sure, you never had any reason to shoot enemies with it, but it was cool being able to break open the walls with it.

All of the classic megaman games have problems. Whether its shitty/overpowered weapons, shit bosses, shit levels, etc.

There isn't a single megaman game where every level is fine, every boss is fine, and every weapon is balanced.

The biggest problem with most of them is that they just didn't do anything different or unique. You look at MM6 and MM1, and mechanically there isn't any significant difference between them.

9 and 10 are my favorites because they trimmed all the unnecessary shit and just focused on good level and boss design. Capcom kept trying to make MM better by adding new shit, when they should have just done what they did hear. Focus on polishing what they already had.

For the "true" classics, 2 and 3 are pretty much about the same. They both have some glaring flaws that really bring down the game. 4 isn't too bad, but you could tell they were starting to run out of ideas. Charged shot could have been interesting, but you never really need it. 5 and 6 are just uninspired. Nothing stands out as being particularly bad, but you can just tell Capcom shoved those games out to rake in money.

has there ever been a romhack that put all the weapons from all the games into one game?

or all the stages?

>>2453090
>I'll give you 3 because of the fucking boss
Wily 3's crap cause it barely registers as a stage.

fall down -> jump right 3, 4 times? -> spike drop -> go right into boss door

Pretty much the same as Heat Man's stage, less annoying, but there's nothing to it. It's dickish by putting all those crash walls in with powerups behind them. Waste Crash Bomber here, don't refill since you never use it save for breaking walls, get to Boobeam in the next level and... fuck.

>>2453090
>Sure, you never had any reason to shoot enemies with it
They one-shot the tin can enemies for the whole 2-3 stages they show up in... one of which is Crash Man's stage iirc.

>>2453610
>The biggest problem with most of them is that they just didn't do anything different or unique.
GB 4 added the shop system, in-engine and newly drawn cutscenes, has a unique robot master select screen and selection style, and had really really good stage design. It shook things up, as did GB 5.

>>2454094
Those are refinements and some minor enhancements. On a core mechanical level, the game remains the same.

Something new would be like the wall jump in Megaman X. The limited vertical mobility that offers totally changes the way you can design levels and bosses.

The slide introduced in Megaman 3 could have been used to do something like that, but few levels rarely used it other than "here's a part where you slide", and if you took it out, the game wouldn't change at all. Although some bosses were designed with the slide in mind, so that's good.

But that was Megaman 3. After that, nothing significant changed in Megaman. The time and effort they spent on adding a bunch of bells and whistles could have, at the very least, been spent just working on designing levels and bosses around things they are already familiar with.

That's why I think Megaman 9 and 10 are so good. Strip away all the fluff, and they know how to work with the fundamentals. Jumping and shooting, and how to make that fun and engaging.

>>2445201
>mega man 4
>good

Are you serious? You're complaining about shit weapons and you say 4 is good?

>>2454115
>Strip away all the fluff
Sliding and charging are in way more MM games than are not, so I don't see how anybody could call them fluff. 9 and 10 not even having sliding really put me off of them. They really didn't do a good job with the difficulty or fun factor. Inti basically OD'd on false nostalgic memories made a MM2 clone based off of them. 10 was somewhat better but still pretty annoying to play.

>>2454282
>You're complaining about shit weapons and you say 4 is good?
Charge Shot: nice all around weapon
Dust Crusher: Good easy fire power weapon
Drill Missile: Good if properly detonated
Ring Boomerang: Spammable, pierces so good
Dive Missile: Homing, surprisingly effective on certain enemies
Skull Barrier: First melee shield weapon and really useful in many spots
Flash Stopper: Freaking great.
Pharoah Shot: Powerful and can act as overhead shield
Rain Flush: Really good
Wire: underutilized and not so great, but it can do 1 line of damage to enemies above you so that's something?
Balloon: A comfier Item 1
Rush: shit

Dunno, to me it looks like one of the best weapon lineups the series had to date and would have until many years later.

>>2454296
The slide didn't add anything to the game aside from making it a bit faster. Some bosses you have to use it to dodge attacks, but that's it.

Take it away, nothing really changes at all. Only they no longer have to put the requisite "slide here" segments in levels, which allowed them to focus on actual level design.

It wasn't until maybe 4 and 5 GB that they actually managed to use it in interesting ways, and more solidly justified its existence.

>>2443687

top kek

>>2454310

There's tons of redundancy in this list though. Vs mega man 2 which offers nearly an identical line up, only with more variety in their execution.