/vr/ - Retro Games

===NEWS===

[05-18] Doom 4 trailer released, sadly /vr/ can't ignore its existence
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ca1cHfu1cso

[05-17] Canned Doom 4 footage found, if you want a laugh I suppose
http://www.doomworld.com/vb/doom-4-general/72791-i-found-gameplay-footage-of-the-canned-version-of-doom-4/

[05-16] Zandronum 3.0 will support ZDoom 2.7.1
>>2406654 >>2406746 >>2406750

[05-16] GBA DOOM PLUS update
http://www.best-ever.org/download?file=gbadmplusv1c.wad

[05-08] Another SUAB update, v0.2c
>>2391928

[05-04] Interview with Kaiser regarding Powerslave EX
https://powerslaveex.wordpress.com/2015/05/04/techraptor-interview/

[05-01] Endless Survival (Invasion with continuous spawns) v0.4
http://zandronum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=5811#pid80814

[04-30] OMG Weapons and Monsters! V3 - THE REBIRTH
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=48463

[04-30] Source model for BFG/TEKWALL/EXITDOOR/etc found
http://www.doomworld.com/vb/doom-general/72599-

[04-29] Retro Jam 3 for Quake has been released
http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61203
https://www.quaddicted.com/reviews/retrojam3.html

[04-29] GMOTA Zandronum port in preliminary stages
>>2373546

[04-29] Deterministic Doom (effects of constant RNG) now with video
http://jmtd.net/log/deterministic_doom/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvfJoy1rjmo

[04-27] Marathon Skins v0.8
http://zandronum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=5897

[04-26] HDoom techdemo 7 released
http://hdoomguy.tumblr.com/post/117443743997

[04-26] Doom / Mario crossovers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTXXOG6u3M8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPQ9kRevYUU

[04-24] The /newstuff Chronicles #475
http://www.doomworld.com/php/topstory.php?id=4402

[04-22] Romero's spring-cleaning: DoomEd source, unused maps, graphics
http://www.doomworld.com/vb/doom-general/72509-
http://www.doomworld.com/vb/doomworld-news/72504-

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Please reply to this post with news.

>>2415431
I dunno, I saw Baron's face more like this.

>>2415431

Yeah, nothing to worry about. It's not that freaky or skeletal.

>>2415431
The barons have always been my favourite design because I can never figure out what animal the head is meant to look like.
The also have horse legs because the hooves aren't cloven. Though the leg anatomy is wrong.

>>2415481
>>2415470
>>2415457
In my opinion. the best part of the Baron of hell is how easy to modify it is. Just look at R667, they made a gorillon of Baron variants. It's a shame that the one with Wings doesn't fly

>>2413906

These aren't bad, and someone offered me the name of "Combined Arms" as well

I kinda like the Combined Arms name personally

>>2415495
It was suggested by multiple anons, right?
Anonhilation.

John Mulkey was the lead designer of Call of Doom. Guess what other project he worked on?
Aliens: Colonial Marines

>>2415519
guess we dodged a bullet there

working on my first WAD, I don't want to post this somewhere with a name
Doom 1 based, tested entirely in Chocolate Doom and with The Ultimate Doom as my IWAD

E1M1 is literally the first map I made.
screenshot from E1M2
E1M3 is the first remotely decent map of the lot.
E1M4 is unfinished but the first room looks cool

http://a.pomf.se/qylmqb.wad
what do you guys think?

it's also incredibly easy, some tips on making it harder?

>>2415552
These are quite fun, anon. I think you should work on adding a bit more verticality to the levels, but they're quite fun anyhow.
They -look- kinda shitty though, you really want to work on the texture alignment (doombuilder's visual mode allows you to auto-align by looking at a wall and pressing "a") and detailing (add lights and shit to the walls and ceilings, maybe add more things to make it feel more like it's connected to some kind of world).
Good shit for a first wad.

>>2415552
that was pretty good actually, try not give 50 shells at once! and for more difficulty, make the enemies come from 2 directions, not just the front, you can use monster closets for this! for example the shotguys at the start of e1m2, you can make it trigger when the player is in front of it

>>2415451

>>2415570
>>2415586
ah, thanks for the advice!
surprised to hear other people liking it

I do need to add more detail, don't I?
Auto-align was helping sometimes, and doing absolutely dick-all others though, and there are some really awful spots on E1M1/2 that are really obvious and I need to fix.

was giving out so much ammo because I originally ended up with issues of outright running out of ammo from a fresh start when testing
but I guess I should scale it back a bit

>have been waiting for Operation Serpent for ECWolf for about two years now
>it could have been released several months ago
>the only thing holding back the release is the music not being done yet

I rarely even listen to game music, fuck.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t01dYTecfS8
someone make a map to this music

its a voluntary challenge

>>2415481
>I can never figure out what animal the head is meant to look like
Bull, since Baron is obviously a mix between Satyr and Minotaur.

>>2415470
Alright, Doomguys and girls.

If we were to ask id software to allow us or them to scan the original doom assets for the creation of 3d models would they allow it? more and importantly should we..

>>2415495
Who all is working on it?

>>2415705
>girls
Are there girls here? Are they cool. Do they want to date.
>Theses are the things this board of dicks needs to know.

>>2415670
>>2415481
I'd say the horns and upper skull are bull, the rest of the facial structure is a mix between human and goat, and the teeth are all sharp fangs like a canine's incisors.

>>2415706

I've been doing the brunt of the programming, Shivers has provided sprites for several weapons, and Eric donated code for the shotgun, and I figured out how to do a smoother charging function basing it off of Eriance's nice soul caster... railgun thing.

But again, the whole gimmick of this mod is I get ideas from a bunch of other dudes and then make said ideas a reality.

That one anon who started me down the buster rifle path should be given a fucking medal, I'm beyond pleased with that gun

>>2415710
Are you aiming for Zand compat or ZDoom compat? And do you want any help code wise?

>>2415710
Tell me, Is Doom modding still c++?

>>2415713

What? Doom modding has never been c++.
It's ACS + Decorate.

>>2415712

Zandybam compatibility, and this shit runs in Zandy right now so far.

>>2415713

I think you can use c++, I just use DECORATE script using the SLADE editor, shit's limited, but easy

>>2415713
Not him, but it's C (ACS) and "Decorate" which is it's own janky language.

ACS is close enough to C that there exist things like GDCC

The ports themselves (ZDoom, Skulltag, Zandronum, GZDoom) are all mostly written in C++ though.

>>2415718
What about the help?

>>2415720

I'm good on help at the moment, but what I could -really- do with it is a set of Timon's axe sprites clenched in Doomguy hands, and with a red aura instead of a blue aura

and a set of the same axe frames with no aura.

>>2415705
Based Romero would probably do it in a heartbeat. Just sayin'.

>>2415705
>>2415727
I think we should email them then.

>>2415730
Or twitter. He's very active there.

>>2415734
Twitter may be a better option, however who here actually would support the post if someone did suggest the idea to Romero on twitter?

>>2415713
>Tell me, Is Doom modding still c++?
I'm >>2415720, forgot to mention that all that is only for ZDoom and it's child ports. The rest of the stuff I'm less familiar with, but most don't have their own scripting language; Vanilla/Chocolate have Dehacked, (and all other major ports support that too), Boom has BEX Dehacked (Dehacked extended). I'd assume stuff like Eternity, 3DGE, and Risen would have their own scripting languages but I don't know off the top of my head.

>>2415723
I'm not gonna be able to help with that, since I have very limited artistic capabilities. Best of luck on the project.

>>2415730
I think we should do both, but i don't want to have to post it.

>>2415738
>Best of luck on the project.

Thanks man, it's appreciated. I'm hoping everyone'll enjoy this online, as I've said before, we need more multiplayer bro-op mods

>>2415738
Eternity has EDF which is actually pretty damn good, it also supports DECORATE in EDF.
3DGE has DDF which is like hell put into a scripting format.
Risen has.. nothing. Not even DeHackEd. The port isn't even BOOM compatible.

>>2415737
I'd throw it a star or two

>>2415552
first attempts
http://a.uguu.se/jdncfj_qylmqb1.lmp

>>2415552
>>2415790
http://a.uguu.se/ioyvhv_qylmqb2.lmp

>>2415552
>>2415791
http://a.uguu.se/aphnys_qylmqb3.lmp

>>2415752
>Risen has.. nothing.
>The port isn't even BOOM compatible.
I'm guessing this is entirely different to Risen3D? Whats Risen?

>Not even DeHackEd
Wait, what?

>>2415787
Post his twitter i'll step up and do it.

>>2415752
>Risen has.. nothing. Not even DeHackEd. The port isn't even BOOM compatible.
i think you're thinking of doomsday
>>2415793
i think he's thinking of doomsday

>>2415795
Ah Yeah. That'd make sense.

I was confused because the original point behind Risen3D was to add boom support to Doomsday. Though the two engines are very different to eachother now.

>>2415794
twitter DOT com SLASH romero

>>2415752
>3DGE has DDF which is like hell put into a scripting format.
Is it the typical "scripting language made by non-coders" or is there something uniquely terrible about it?

>most don't have their own scripting language;
>Vanilla/Chocolate have Dehacked, (and all other major ports support that too), Boom has BEX Dehacked (Dehacked extended).
Aren't those scripting languages though or am I misinterpreting?

>>2415802
You mean like this?
>twitter.com/romero

>>2415805
>Aren't those scripting languages though or am I misinterpreting?
Dehacked and BEX aren't scripting languages, they're basically patches to Doom.exe that allow you to move around existing functions within existing frames and unused frames. I'm not terribly familiar with BEX but I believe it removes those limits.

For instance, have an imp shoot a baron ball instead of an imp ball, or have a baron shoot like a shotgunner instead of shooting a baron ball, but you couldn't have anything that wasn't already done in the vanilla Doom.exe. I think you could have a mishmash of things (like a baron ball that homes like a revenant missile) but I'm not certain.

>>2415809
>>2415805
Forgot to add that the closest thing to "scripting" in Boom is having a voodoo doll go over a bunch of linedefs that do different things. So you replace delay functions with more room between linedefs and IF statements with doors opening or walls going up and down and switch statements with having copies of "scripting corridors."

>>2415552
>>2415594
thoughts

i love the chaotic mid nineties style map so this was right up my street.

first of all i love that you vary the lighting, the contrast of light and dark is great.

yes they are pretty easy. just add more monsters ;)

the first two maps seem to be just default editor texture choices, fair enough, the third is better. but i'm not sure about the way you used FIREWALA as a normal wall texture, it's better for decorative insets or in an area completely textured in fire and lava, not mixed with regular doors and stuff. don't just choose textures at random but think about themes a bit. (but not too much or you end up with boring ultra-sanitized modern maps)

>Auto-align was helping sometimes, and doing absolutely dick-all others though

in my experience if you can't get a wall to align it's probably because you need to either set or clear one of the unpegging flags.

>>2415805
It is very uniquely terrible.
I don't want to bother finding something to show because it's so BAD.

>>2415809
IIRC with DEHACKED you can alter how stuff behaves, but you have to use vanilla functions only (meaning it is possible to make baron ball home like revenent missile)

There's also a limited space for adding in stuff - you can't "add" sprites - only replace the existing ones, but you can combine existing ones in new ways. So the way to add new monster would actually be - replace some vanilla sprites (unused decorations or another monster, usually nazis), arrange those replacements in the right way

I don't know if BEX removes that limitation.

>>2415807
>>2415802
How does this sound?
>@romero Hey! Would ever consider allowing Modders the chance to 3D Scan the DOOM sculptures that were used for the original sprites?

>>2415818
>>2415752
>3DGE has DDF which is like hell put into a scripting format.
>It is very uniquely terrible.
>I don't want to bother finding something to show because it's so BAD.
If this is the case why are all the 3DGE people on ZDF always such smug superior cunts about everything? Is it the whole "if it takes longer/is harder to do a thing, that means it's better/makes me smarter" or is it something else?

>>2415827
Please reply.

>>2415827
Better say "hello" than "hey". Being polite doesen't hurt.
Also you missed "you" in "would you ever"

>>2415862
So.
>@romero Hello! Would you ever consider allowing the modders the chance to 3D Scan the DOOM sculptures that were used for the original sprites?

>>2415870
Basically yes, but does he actually still has access to the sculptures/models? And have anyone from the Doom community has the equipment necessary to scan them?

>>2415887
If he allows it, they will come forward.

>>2415887
>>2415895
https://twitter.com/Sims_Doc/status/600998956387074048

>>2415909
Wow, I didn't think someone would do it.

>>2415887
I do have access to one, however i'm not in the US.

>>2415787
>>2415909
It's up.

>>2415909
>https://twitter.com/Sims_Doc/status/600998956387074048
I hope Romero will help us out.

>>2415887
i'm pretty sure he still has the doomguy model, but it's slightly falling apart (like, missing a hand)

these things weren't really meant to last forever, i think

>>2416053
I think it should be pretty easy to take the other hand and just scan it and then reattach it back in Maya.

Is kicking shit still cool?

>>2416101
Try knee-strikes, like Marty(class) does in Russian Overcool

>>2416107

I was gonna keep it simple with a douk style mighty boot. At least while on the ground.

If you kick in the air, that's when shit starts changing up, then you'll be able to bounce off monsters and walljump.

>>2416110
Walljump via kicks is always cool.
Do it Megaman X style.
Also should add the ability to do 2 kind of wallkiks
1) Wallkick that sends you higher but allows to wallkik further
2) Wallkick that rotates you 180 degrees for wall-to-wall kicks.

>>2416113

Funny you should mention that, I'm gonna do two different wallkicks, but the one that springs you straight up will only happen if you plant your foot against a monster, otherwise you'll turn around and fly outwards

Remember being able to spam divekicks on monsters in some of the castlevania games? That's what I want.

>>2415730
I doubt Bethesda would do it. Knowing them they'll probably release recreations of the original models as merchandise.

>>2415451
Made a fun little edit

>>2416120
Might serve the same purpose though

>>2416145
metal as fuck

>>2416145
metal

Doombuilder question: I want to make a cage at the bottom of a tall room. How to do it? The middle sidedefs line up with the ceiling of the sector instead of the floor.

Is Duke Nukem 3D: Megaton Edition worth buying?
>inb4 not retro

>>2416182
use 3d mode (q) and select the wall while using the arrow keys to align the texture

>>2416182
>>2416193
if you're lucky, i think (i need to check this admittedly) you can just set the lower unpegging flag, but that might change the alignment of the side's upper and lower textures too

>>2416193
This worked, thanks a bunch

Oh, and one more thing. This texture is bugging me. It's supposed to be a transparent wall concealing a secret passageway towards the chaingunners corpse. Is there a way to fix it or will it just keep sticking out like that?

>>2416214
its probably not textured, check yer linedefs

>>2416220
This is the linedef, apart from not having "impassable" and having "double sided" it's identical to the one beside it. The rear middle sidedef is supposed to be see-through so it's blank.

>>2415792
Dat speed.
You using a speed hack or faster display?

>>2416231
He's just cut frames to make the webms fit the size limit.

>>2416190
No. Shitty 3D renderer worse than eDuke32, brings in a whole lot of bugs

>>2416231
Is there a speedhack that works with (G)ZDoom?
I tried using Cheatengine but it didn't work.

>>2416236
Wasn't there a Doom source port that can increase/decrease the engine speed? I know it's not any of the ZDoom variants or legacy,

>>2416231
>>2416236
yes, my avconv (ffmpeg) command line has input -r 105 and output -r 35 and the video comes out 3x faster than normal.

>>2416250
yes, everything based on Boom can do it, by changing realtic_clock_rate in the config file. in PrBoom+ you can just press numeric keypad +/- , and * to reset to normal (these are configurable if you don't have a keypad)

>>2416228
short version: change the floor inside the secret passage. either the flat (texture) on it, its floor height, or its light level, so that it differs from the sector in front of the secret passage.

__________________

okay so what you have is a middle texture on a two-sided line, like the fake wall on doom2 map28. and your choice of middle texture is taller than the height of the gap you want it to fill, so it ends up bleeding into the floor.

two-sided middle textures are drawn differently from one-sided textures - the engine treats them more like sprites, drawn on top of everything else at the end of the render cycle. they need something to clip against.

however, the sectors in front of and behind your fake wall have identical properties. that means the engine has nothing to clip against.

what you need to do is force a visplane split there. this means you need to change one of

- the floor flat (texture)
- the floor height
- the light level

of either one of the two sectors adjoining the line (in front of it, or the secret passage behind it).

the most imperceptable is to make the light levels differ by 1. the engine doesn't distinguish more than 32 brightnesses (there may be 256 light levels but groups of 8 are identical).

Why hasn't somebody made a mod that allows you to change the speed of things with a menu?
Stock maps feel a bit too easy with modern controls, I think increasing projectile speeds could help.

>>2416310

play on -fast

>>2416318
That also makes enemies constantly fire at you.

>>2416282
Changing the light level worked wonders. Thanks for the help anon.

>>2416310
ZDoom->increase proj. speed via mod of files included.
10 minutes in notepad

Are there any mods for Daikatana that remove the NPC companions, or ditch the mandatory "Wait for companions to proceed" shit?

>>2415816
I'd chosen FIREWALA for those walls since those sections were supposed to be recent additions by the invading demons or whatever, but maybe I should change them+work that texture in differently.

Yeah, first two maps are very much me getting to grips with using Doom Builder at all. They need work, and I'll get to it.

>>2415790
>>2415791
>>2415792
aww, sweet
very useful and interesting to see someone else going through the levels

>>2416403

Nope.

Start a local server, though, and join it by yourself. NPC companions will be gone, since they're supposed to be controlled by other players.

>>2416436
But will I see the cutscenes?

>>2416459

I don't know. I've heard yes, but they might also have been lying to me.

http://www.doomworld.com/vb/wads-mods/72811-beautiful-doom-is-coming-back-need-your-opinions/
Apparently Beautiful Doom's making a return.
Someone should tell him to have "Smooth Doom-like options", love how easy it is to just change things on the fly.

>>2416529
Great news, I liked that mod.
Yeah, options would be great.
Also, he should check the volume of the blood splashin on water sound, it's really loud

>>2416552
The problem with the water-blood-splash thing is that the volume increases with each droplet that hits the water.
So if you kill something in the water, it creates a fuckin' sound shockwave--unless you turn the volume way down, in which case you can barely hear it if something's dripping slowly into the water.

The solution is probably to have a cutoff of some sort--make it automatically lower the volume if a bunch of droplets are hitting the water at once.

>>2415451
I would not call that artwork "Frazetta style" but it's very cool and well done.

Term confirmed for Doom's biggest hack 2015

>>2416604

Sprites look cool. New Iron Maiden mode?

>>2416618
New character, chinese cyborg grill with more of an emphasis on guns

>>2416618

Nah, making a second character for DemonSteele.
Eric somehow figured out how to punch through walls, which simply isn't possible and yet somehow he does it anywayyyyyyyyyy aaaaaaaaaaaa

>>2416626
Does it work on the same principle as Brootal's over-penetration?

Doomguy dies at the end of Kneedeep in Hell?

>>2416646

no, he only ends up knee-deep in the death

>>2416646
I always thought it was just meant to be a hook to be people to buy the full game. I don't think it's ever really explained.

>>2416658
>a hook to be people to buy the full game
to get people to buy the full game

>>2416658
>>2416652
>>2416646
He dies in order to go to Hell.

Then he kicks the ass of everything in Hell and walks right back out.

>>2416645

No. This is a glitch. One I intend to fix, but the big question is what's causing it.
This doesn't make any sense.

The short of the matter is that in Zandronum, at some walls, at some angles, in some maps, when you hug up against them, fastprojectiles ignore collision detection and fly straight through walls, hitting what's on the other end.
There is no indication as to why this is happening. It doesn't happen in GZDoom/ZDoom, though, so I assume it's a collision bug.

>>2416658
>>2416660
yes. it's a cutscene, in a certain sense.

>>2416665
i think it's meant to simulate the transporter accidents mentioned in the manual/readme, where test subjects went through the gateway only to come out the other side as enraged bloodthirsty monsters.

only because you're you, the indomitable Doomguy - not some weakminded test subject - you pass through hell and arrive on the deimos base with your sanity intact (if not your weapons and armour).

>>2416665
How did he die for sure? That pentagram you step on might just be a teleporter. Maybe the rules are different if you die than if you teleport.

>>2416690
>How did he die for sure?

I would assume getting ripped into by dozens of demons and then spawning next on the shores of Hell would be a good indicator.

>>2416645
Eat your heart out, Mark! Every mod has overpenetration!

>>2416671
Wait, if this is due to fastprojectiles, then doesn't that mean every mod that uses fastprojectile bullets is affected by it?

>>2416690
>>2416696
see >>2416678 for an alternate theory.

>>2416620
>chinese cyborg grill
Why is the main character korean anyway, when the mod is having a laugh at anime donutsteel stuff? Is it a reference to something?

Not getting the joke makes me feel like an idiot.

>>2416703

Yes. We ran tests with a few other mods, like Samsara and sink's Aliens mod, and those were affected by it as well.
It's looking more and more like it's a Zandronum bug, though. Z3.0 doesn't have it, ZDoom and GZDoom doesn't have it. So whatever's going on, it'll fix itself soon enough.

In the meantime, uh, enjoy your noclipping bullets.

>>2416696
Shit, I forgot that little bit afterwards.

So the teleporter was really a trap to kill you.

>>2416710
So DG dies, like any other human, just dies. And when you die you, you end up in hell, and hell is just a test of your sanity?

Makes me wonder if Doom lore allows for a Heaven and why DG didn't go there.

>>2416713

You're not really missing a joke, don't worry. A lot of deviantart anime OCs are Japanese or part-Japanese, but that in particular is more a result of the Shadow Warrior side of heritage--it was also laughing at anime stuff, despite Lo Wang being Chinese.

>>2416723
no i don't think he dies. the test subjects didn't die, they just come out the other side of the gateway wrong.

also, technically, he doesn't die - the level exits when your health drops to <11. it is in fact impossible to die in an exit damage sector.

>>2416723
>And when you die you, you end up in hell, and hell is just a test of your sanity? Makes me wonder if Doom lore allows for a Heaven and why DG didn't go there.

If there's a Hell, there's probably a Heaven as well. Either way, Doomguy was likely forcibly drug down.
And then he decided to fight his way out again.

>>2416738
Sorta like Sun-Ukun (Son-Goku in japan), the king of monkeys in the Chineese folklore (also base for Goku from Dragonball)

When he died, he went to hell for all the sins and debauchery. Enraged at that fact, he brawled his way through the demons, and eventually Demons begged Heaven to take him.
later, he got bored with Heaven, where nothing interesting ever happens, so he caused a ruckus there and got sent back to earth (because Heaven learned that sending him to Hell is useless). And that's how he became immortal.

>>2416646
>>2416665
technically, in-game you don't die
you get to sub-10% hp then you get the intermission screen

>>2416765
>>2416736
how long do you honestly think he'll last at under 10% HP in a cramped room surrounded by demons

>>2416771
i'm not sure it was suppossed to be taken as a cramped room with demons
just the experience of teleporting through hell to deimos

>>2416765
That's a technicality. It was made to look like he got ripped by demons

>>2416771
stop taking that part literally, it's a hack to simulate a cutscene that saved a lot of programming effort, nothing more.

>>2416765
>you get to sub-10% hp then you get the intermission screen

you can even reach 9-1 HP but the game itself resets your health back to 10

>>2416776
and what in the world do you think the cutscene was saying

doomguy was kill by demons, go2hell
it even says in the text it's not supposed to end this way

stop trying to dance around saying it's something it's not

>>2416782
I hope marine dies and goes to hell in NewDewm

>download DoomMetalVol4.wad to play with accessories to murder
>reach map18 of doom2.wad
>expect a sweet remix of 'waiting for romero to play' or even an instrumental version of 'this love' by pantera
>get 'adrian's asleep' from MAP25 instead

what? even that same mistake is done twice in the slot where d_romero repeats itself in the original soundtrack (map27)

'adrian's asleep' is on its correct slot with a different remix, but 'waiting for romero to play' is not

>>2416792
Well, at least in my opinion, the remix is still fucking awesome.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyUPtlXjYEk

>>2416792
Waiting for Romero to Play is literally just Adrian's Asleep without a guitar.

>>2416801

you mean, the remixes?

>>2416697
oh shit whats the name of this mod? can't see the name in the thread

>>2416782
i can see i'm not going to be able to convince you that you have misinterpreted the scene. so i take my leave of this discussion, and you with the following thought: if doomguy/you just died, then who is it thinking "it's not supposed to end this way"?

>>2416810
Donut Steal

>>2416792
>even that same mistake is done twice in the slot where d_romero repeats itself in the original soundtrack (map27)

will that ever be fixed?

I mean, does Mark hate Pantera or something?

>>2416810

Swoosh-a-Whoosh: Electric Ramengaloo

>>2416813
>if doomguy/you just died, then who is it thinking "it's not supposed to end this way"?

Him, in Hell.
It's not really that hard, dude.

>>2416806
A remix would sound like it.

The original mids are basically the same riff based on Angry Chair being played with different instruments.

>>2416810
DemonSteele.

>>2416832
>The original mids are basically the same riff based on Angry Chair being played with different instruments.

d_romero and d_adrian do NOT sound anything alike. they're based on two completely different songs from the 90s.

uh, that's not a weapon

>>2416951
We all scream for ice cream!
>ice cream captcha
pfft

>>2415526
>>2415519
Holy shit, really?

We didn't dodge a bullet here, we dodged a fucking artillery barrage.

Doom 4, as it is now, may or may not turn out to be a good game, but if Carmack hadn't shitcanned the Cowwadoody variant, with the Colonial Marines dev, Doom 4 could very well have turned into one of those legendary terrible games we'll all remember, like the aforementioned Colonial Marines, or Duke Nukem Forever.

I have a little bit more hope now.

>>2416951

It's probably better than a weapon, though.

http://www.doomworld.com/vb/doom-general/72821-looking-for-a-new-idgames-maintainer/

With Ty being missing for over a month and a half, idgames is looking for a new maintainer.

Backlinking to >>2415452 for posterity.

>>2416982
Ty is missing?

>>2416982
>Ty being missing for over a month and a half
What happened? Is he really missing?

>>2416994
>>2416995

Yes. idgames hasn't been updated since April 4th, and all attempts at trying to reach him have been met with silence.
Since Ty is about 69 years old, it might not be unreasonable to assume something has happened to him.

>>2416995
He's apparently pretty old, so people are speculating health troubles.

>>2416994
>>2416995
>>2416982

yes, nobody knows where he is and they don't have any way to keep in contact with him.

names are being thrown, and the strongest candidates are bloodshedder and fraggle

>>2416997
>>2416998

>Since Ty is about 69 years old

no fucking way this is true

>>2417002
>and the strongest candidates are bloodshedder and fraggle

Of course these guys would be considered.
Doomworld would like nothing more than to spread their claws across everything Doom-related and shut out all of those evil, evil, evil modern ZDoom mods and mapsets.

If those guys get elected, we can basically say goodbye to any progress the community has ever made in the past ten years. Only Boom-compatible megawads from now on.

I am being completely facetious.

Turns out the HUD I made last night wasn't playing nice with Sink's Aliens mod, so I decided to modify another HUD, and it seems to look nice.

>>2416145

We've got our reboot box art.

>>2416145

>fixed logo

thank you so much for that

What does /doom/ think of Freedoom? Good enough to play pwads?

>>2417029

Sure; the sprites used to be shit but now they're being revamped by some talented spriters.

>>2416831
>>2416782
>>2416771
He got into the lost Deimos moon base at the end of Episode 1, and the demons around him were either there during the transition through the portal or there waiting to spring a trap on him when he got there.

Between then and the start of E2 he either kills the demons or escapes them.

Then at the end of E2 he finds out that Deimos is orbiting Hell itself and rappels down to Hell.

If he died at the end of E1 it removes the reveal of the end of Episode 2, and also doesn't make sense since why would be, if he died, end up right at the other end of the portal (Phobos Anomaly --> Deimos Anomaly) with a pistol and bullets and not anywhere else in Hell.

If he "just happened" to wake up there of all places after being killed (and isn't just another Lost Soul, or a zombie, or a bodyless damned soul) it's a hell of a coincidence.

>>2417014
Is this available for download? It seems like a nice interesting Aliens wad

>>2417041
Or maybe he killed the demons that attempted to spawn camp him (because it is possible to kill the demons) and wasted all his ammo and was left with nothing but a pistol with 50 bullets.

>>2417048
Yeah that's possible too.

Either way, the fact that he ends up on the other side of the portal, doesn't die in game, and it isn't mentioned that he died in the intermission (it even mentions that the Deimos moon base stinks, but doesn't mention him dying) point to the player not dying at the end of E1.

Old video of id Software interviews shortly before DOOM II's release. Is this some kind of orchestrated version of MAP09's music in the early part of the video during interviews, and at the very end starting at 1:00?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yy7aYWIeHCU

>>2417047
The wad itself should be on BE, the hud is personal use.

>>2417002
>and the strongest candidates are bloodshedder and fraggle
If this happens all Terry wads are kill.

>>2417059
And nothing of value was lost.

>>2417061
They're part of our history.

You will click on UACMN from the Cacowards and not be able to see it. That sucks.

>>2417067
And nothing of value was lost.

>>2416997
Fuck, I hope he's alive.
I still remember when Jason went missing.

>>2417007

>>2417059
Good.

>>2417067
Good.

>>2417072
Is this a real quote?

>>2417072
Why do people hate ZDoom?

>>2417054
Hmm, sorry for the dumb question, but what's BE? (Im still kinda new in some Doom sites, i only know sites like /idgames and some other, more mainstream ones).

>>2417074
>dat gif

my dic/k/ just got hard.

>>2417083
Best-ever, an automated hosting service for Zandronum.

http://www.best-ever.org/

>>2417080

because some people think that every zdoom mapset is KDIZD or Doom: Rampage Edition

and that every zdoom gameplay mod is Aeons of Death or a generic R667 randomizer

>>2417079

No.

>>2417101
Do you have a source?
If we can't confirm that he didn't say this, he should be out of the running.

>>2417084
Very early repeating shotgun, from back when the notion of a pump-action shotgun was a radically new concept, it pumped by pulling back a part of the stock, rather than by pumping the fore-end, both were very new ideas at the time so both were very weird to people then.

Obviously, the pump-action that worked with a sliding fore-end was the one that would prevail. The gun in the .gif was a special variant that could be folded in half and stored in a holster, the guy who invented it pitched to Theodor Roosevelt (back when he was a NY police chief) by making an appointment, then out of nowhere whipping it out (in a manner like the .gif) and fired off a magazine of blanks into the air. Teddy thought it was impressive and bought a bunch.

>>2417074
nah.
it's like "let's censor everything related to nazism so that people won't get the idea to do it again" kind of bad/stupid

>>2417067
>our history
>our

stop doing drugs, kemosabe

>>2417106

Do you have a source that he did say it?
If we can't confirm that he did say it, then you're a retard.

Hint: You can't, because he never did.

>>2417110
UACMN is acceptable out of historical relevance.

We really don't need more examples of the retarded bait and switch bullshit that is terrywads, it's literally .wad shitposting

>>2417121
>Do you have a source that he did say it?
see>>2417072

>>2417125

A slapped-together banner in MSPaint is not a source.

>>2417126
It's not a very good source, granted, but it's more of a source than "nothing."

I don't feel comfortable with Bloodshedder taking over idgames until this can be sorted out.

I support fraggle.

What's up with all of the good stuff I keep hearing about Sunderer. I just tried it, and it's honestly the first WAD I've played that made me not want to play Doom at all. I love a challenge, but this WAD is just fucking ridiculous.

Try this:

script 101 enter
{
while(true)
{
int x= 0;
delay(1);
x= GetPlayerInput (-1, INPUT_yaw);
setactorroll(0, fixedmul(x,0.1));
}
}

>terryfags getting all pissy that their shit is potentially getting cockblocked from the archives

delicious.

in that case i'm all up for either blood or fraggle to be in

>>2417128
>It's not a very good source, granted, but it's more of a source than "nothing."

duly noted, an anonymous poster believes that bloodshedder hates zdoom
this will factor deeply into our consideration, thank you for your concern

>>2417131

Strokes and folks. There's plenty of wads that fill some people's needs.

In that case Sunder completely appeals to slaughtertards and speedrunners in general. You're not necessarily required to play those wads, and if you do and you end up not liking them, nothing will happen.

Soo...
For the Borderlands-like Doom, what should be the manufacturer names? Preferably something hellish.

My guesses:
Tediore (cheap and disposable) ->ImpCorp : "Disposable munitions for disposable infantry!"
Bandit (more ammo and power at cost of accuracy/reliability and reload speed)-> DAKKA
Maliwan (elemental damage, for when you definitely need to light shit on fire) -> Lucifer
Hyperion (Accuracy before everything, gimmicky, HighTech)-> UAC
Jakobs (power and accuracy at cost of recoil and low mag, no elements)-> ???
DAHL (overall moderate/ urban military theme) -> ???
Torgue (EXPLOSIONS. Explosive gyrojets) -> ???
Vladof (Power to people, high rate of fire, big magazine, less power and accuracy)-> ???
Anshin (Makes additional munition that is hightech, fast but weak) -> ???
Pangolin (Makes additional munition that is lowtech, heavy but powerful) -> ???

>>2417134
Don't forget ZDoom too.

A vote for Bloodshedder is a vote to purge anything that isn't Vanilla, Chocolate or Boom.

Bloodshedder will round up all the ZDoom, GZdoom, Eternity, Risen3D, Legacy, and 3DGE uploads and put them to the wall.

You've been warned.

"If I were in charge of idgames I would delete everything that contained anything that wasn't a Vanilla or Boom compatible .wad file, a .deh or .bex file or a .txt file. Everything else that's been uploaded will be deleted and their uploader's ips will be forwarded to the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, reported as having been the origin of child pornography uploaded to the idgames archive. I cannot be disuaded from this mindset, even if I later delete this post and claim I never said this and do not harbor these intentions."
--Bloodshedder, January 22, 2009, Doomworld.com forum post

>>2417145
>Jakobs
Baron's High-Class Arms?
>DAHL
UAAF of course
>Torgue
TORGUE
>Vladof
I don't know how this would translate at all.
>The Rest
I haven't even heard of these ingame.

>>2417161
>THIS BUTTWRENCH

>>2417161
Fucking Christ. I think I actually have some wads up there that aren't Vanilla compatible. This is a little fucking scary.
Not to mention that doing that would effectively kill off /idgames, and probably end up ruining the Doom community as a whole, I'm pretty scared about the whole child pron thing.
He seems insane enough to actually pull that.

>>2417172
>>2417173
Yes, it's truly scary that someone that has gone on record officially saying such things is now being considered for such a position.

I would say this is surprising but really it comes as no surprise; the head honchos at Doomworld have always had it out for anything that wasn't vanilla or boom and it looks like this will be the chance they have to finally pull it off, with Ty Halderman now out of the way. As far as Doomworld and idgames is concrened, anything non-vanilla or boom will never have existed.

It's also worth noting that Linguica has been involved in some Ted Kennedy esque scandals in the past so I would seriously consider what his or his cohorts roles were in the disappearance of Ty Halderman.

The amount of samefaggotry is stunning.

>>2417181
He actually thought I was agreeing with him.

I hope Germany reforms it's mental health care system, it clearly fucking needs it.

>>2417072
>>2417125
>>2417128
>>2417161
>>2417173
自作自演

>>2417180
>It's also worth noting that Linguica has been involved in some Ted Kennedy esque scandals in the past
Details?

>>2417185
Hold on, let me make something up real quick and then reply to myse--er, I mean you

>>2417185
3 of Linguica's ex-girlfriends are now "missing persons" and most recently his Father in Law got into a car accident and died, leaving him with a sizeable inheritance. What is suspicious is that this occurred shortly after he posted on the Doomworld forums that he had a sizeable amount of gambling debt.

>>2417161
Aw, poor kid's mad that Romero doesn't use his source port?

>>2417162
>UAAF
Thanks, woul never thought of that.
>Jakobs
I need something short that would fit into the weapon description card

"Vladof" is just a generic "russian-sounding" family name.

Anshin and Pangolin only make grenades, shields and class mods - they aren't talked about in-game as other companies, but they are still there.

Also
TORGUE -> BOMBUE

>>2417180
>>2417173
>>2417161


Are there any way to mass-download stuff from /idgames? AKA make a dump?

I have the idgames torrent that got posted hee some long time ago, but it's actual date is 2013.

>>2415707
At least two of the doomgirls around town are highly respected artists, each famous for their sprite and art work respectively.

I doubt either is up for dating.

Holy shit
>Doomworld higher-ups have wanted non-purist stuff dead
>Ty Halderman dissapears
>Not seeing any higher-ups hoping that he's ok, just want to find someone new
>Two candidates are purists
>One of which I'm concerned may be legitimately mentally ill
>Some of the greatest WADs and gameplay mods may be erased from existence entirely
>All of the cool guys that worked on these get in trouble after being accused for child pron

Jesus fuck. I never thought the community would die, but it looks like it's coming up pretty soon.
Also take note on how mysterious the Doomworld Higher-Ups are being. What the fuck is even happening.

Alright, I'm trying to play DoomRPG but the newest version of GZDoom (g2.1.pre-1134-ga59824c) auto-crashes as soon as I start it up (through the DoomRPG launcher or just regularly)

Any idea why this is happening?

GUYS, what happened to all the posts about Bloodshedder?

>>2417218
Your posts got deleted, idiot.

>>2417203
its an ftp server, so I'd say you could probably find some sort of tool to automate ftp downloads.

I told the guy at the counter that these were just placeholder sprites, but he wouldn't believe me

Has there ever been a DOOM WAD based upon Hell as depicted in the Divine Comedy?

If not, is that something that would interest you?

>>2417467
Yup.
I recommend FileZilla.
Best graphical FTP client imo.
Runs on Windows, OS X, Linux, BSD, whatever.

I'd get it from FOSSHub, the Sourceforge mirror is adware ridden.

>>2415552 here
started making a new map based on the feedback I got (still working on the others and will probably merge this map into the other WAD, but I think this one is already a lot better already)
no exit yet, it's about 40-60% done, E1M1, Ultimate Doom IWAD

it's harder, it looks better, height's more important, etc
here's the link:
http://a.pomf.se/wfbwjg.wad

>>2417474
I find this funnier than I have any right to

>>2417145

Name the Jakob manufacturer Caleb, name the Torgue one Duke.

>>2417474
Name of wad?

>>2417543
iogw.wad
It Only Gets Worse, its a jokewad.

>>2417543
http://www.best-ever.org/download?file=iogw.wad

Gameplay mod is Demonsteele with the new class.

Guys. Guys send help please.

>>2417490
I absolutely want to see this, if you could toss in some Inferno inspired monsters like the Trees, the Harpies or the snake men of Dis, I will be happy

ambush.wad - http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?id=130

another puzzle wad that grew on me once i worked out how it was meant to be played (by, er, watching a demo. oh well.)

its main feature is a cyberdemon, and two large crowds, firstly of cacodemons, then of barons. the intention is to induce the former to wipe out the latter. you can't do this yourself; although the map is replete with ammunition it is only in the form of bullets (and a handful of dropped shotguns). on that subject, you absolutely cannot miss the jump at the start, or you will miss the only chaingun on the map, and it will be much more annoying to do with just a pistol.

aside from the final setpiece chamber, the remainder of the map consists mostly of tunnels and secret doors. considerable attention has been paid to light sources, which is nice to see in a wad this old. once having the knowing of the wad, its most irritating aspect was its use of those very slow perpetual lifts.

a satisfying wad to beat (even if i did have to cheat by watching someone else do it first), frustrating up until then. i couldn't recommend it to the typical player who just wants to run and gun, but i enjoyed it, eventually.

>>2417498
i was disappointed that there wasn't anything cool on that throne thing as a reward for strafejumping onto it. :)

perhaps an excess of gore on sticks, they get in the way a bit. otherwise i think you are doing very well.

map is incomplete, but i recorded it anyway:

http://a.uguu.se/nfsglj_wfbwjg.lmp

>>2417002
>no fucking way this is true

Its not as unbelievable as you'd think. It would mean he was in his 40's when Doom was new.

>>2417787
>i was disappointed that there wasn't anything cool on that throne thing as a reward for strafejumping onto it. :)
I didn't ever try to go onto it, so I didn't think to put anything there. Wasn't really a throne either, I put the "chair" backing onto it to stop the imps from infighting with the sergeants
...but that does give me an idea, so thanks!

The dead guys on sticks were indeed meant to hinder movement a bit, but I guess I should cut back on them.

>>2417787
ok now this is actually difficult, nice work!
replace the impaled marines with barrels! I would also make the path for the yellow skull open once you see the actual door

Is there a way to limit what colors of enemies Colourful Hell spawns?

Would anyone be interested in a mouse-driven menu you can plug into anything that gives you options to increase your FOV, adjust camera height from chest to eye height, and minor things like that?

>>2417932
Yes.

>>2417776 (me)
unfortunately, if you try to record this one, most of the infighting happens off-camera, so the video isn't very interesting. UV speed first exit, 3:01
http://a.uguu.se/jolesr_ambush.lmp

Holy shit, Trailblazer is just too much fun.

What's the weirdest platform that Doom has ever been ported to?

>>2417961
An office printer.

>>2417961
gba doom

>>2417961
RISC

Why does Mark uses duplicated frames in his weapons? By dupe frames I mean actual dupe files that look exactly the same, only incremented by letter.
For a shotgun:
SHTGB=SHTGC
D=E
I=J=K=L=M

They are EXACTLY the same
And all of them are used in DECORATE.

Is there any practical reason to this that I don't see? Is this some kind of trickery?

>>2418006
Offsets, presumably. Why? Because he's a hack that's too lazy to do DECORATE offsets with a single sprite for each frame.

>>2417961
Ipods.
like those old ones with the wheels. its on rockbox and it can load up pretty much any wad provided its not designed with GZDOOM in mind.

>>2418017
Does any device with screen and Rockbox is capable of this?

>>2418018
provided its a color LCD, youd just have to check in rockbox's game list on your device.

im sure its in most.

was kind of a pain but ive had it running on an ipod nano 2nd gen.

>>2418018
heres the wiki page for it

http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/PluginDoom

don't ban me

>>2418026
God Damn It Caco-Bro stop doing this to me.

>>2418026
if it were up to me we'd be allowed to post on-topic non-hardcore lewds under spoiler tags. the rules are stupidly inflexible

Has Romero replied to our tweet yet?

>>2418045
Nah, He did mention something about his students which makes me wonder how do i get into his course?

However nothing so far about scanning their models.

>>2418006
I don't really think that's a huge issue considering it's not hundreds of frames.

I'm a lazy old fag myself, fuck bothering with setting offset in Decorate.

Time for some late-night Wrath of Cronos action on Whitemare 2!

Server: :: [BE] Montreal :: /vr/ plays Dungeons & Dragons: Meatbread edition!
Password: vrtroopers

>>2418061
>the meatbread god forgot

>>2418061
No players on server
Probbably because WHITE2.wad server uses does not match WHITE2.wad that gets auto-downloaded by WADSEEKER

>>2418102
>>2418061
Whitemare from idgames does not fit the bill either

>>2418104

we're gonna play Samsara instead.

Like.

Samsara with no bullshit addons other than monsters, no extra classes, no gameplay "enhancements"

just good old samsara with those extra monsters

>>2418105

Private SMM, password is vrtoopers again.

Let's beat up things

>>2418026
I'd worship THAT darkness.

>>2418006
So, Why did they change the normal shotgun sprites for brutal doom? I like the default sprites to be honest.

I mean they could of change them to fit the animations but beyond that.

>>2418130
By they you must mean Mark.
And mark isnt they but him
and him wanted testicles swinging under the shotgun

>>2418026
SWEET
DELICIOUS
HERESY

>>2418026
I'd let her ride my serpent, if you know what I mean

Trying lighting effects in decorate. Getting kinda neat now - looks much better in motion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1p3x4YnxuDA

>i'm sharing sensitive info. regarding a scrapped project from a big name in gaming
>but i'm not telling how/when/who handed said info. to me

and this is how you know

a) a person has been gagged
b) is doing it for profit (profit can be anything; currency, rep, favors)

>>2418220
Wat r u talking about?
ElaBorat

>>2416792
>>2416806
>>2416832
>>2416843

DoomMetalVol5.wad when?

What is the best way to play doom multiplayer now?

>>2418317

Online? Zandronum.

LAN? Doomsday I guess; Romero used it a year ago for a LAN party.

>>2418320
Thank you amigo

>>2418006
>Is there any practical reason to this that I don't see?

Offsets.
Frankly, fuck doing Offsets in Decorate/Textures.

>>2417145

>Not having a demonic-themed weapon set

oh please doctor what are you doing.

>>2418006
>>2418012
>Because he's a hack that's too lazy to do DECORATE offsets with a single sprite for each frame.
>>2418054
>I'm a lazy old fag myself, fuck bothering with setting offset in Decorate.
>>2418345
>Offsets.
>Frankly, fuck doing Offsets in Decorate/Textures.

There are issues with doing offsets in DECORATE because of the way it handles weapon bob and a couple of other things, but for most it's okay.

TEXTURES however sidesteps all of these issues and gives you greater control over the graphics as well.

On top of that it takes a couple of minutes at most to do it; it should be about 15 minutes to do fifty frames and save 15mb or more (for pngs) if you're not brain dead.

If 15mb doesn't sound like a lot, then consider the amount you save overall and that you can put that extra space into higher quality sounds or higher quality images; a 2x image with less jagged edges looks better and is less noticeable than a 1x image with anti-aliasing.

Here's a quick update

http://www.best-ever.org/download?file=gbadmplusv1e.wad

Map01 is giving some slight touches it is now fully complete

map 02 is still getting worked on

posting some screenshots of the new areas

The music that will be playing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTQg3f6vk9

Was gonna used this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NuKshN6t-0

But 3DO Doom music doesn't get that much love

>>2418381
>On top of that it takes a couple of minutes at most to do it

Bruh, I played with Textures offsets to my sprites a few days ago and it took me half an hour just to do five sprites. Manually editing positioning in a text file and then going in-game to check it, then repeating as needed? Fuck that noise. FUCK that noise.
And even then it still gives me an error on start-up about how a patch is missing, despite how the original sprite is clearly there.

No, fuck offsets in Decorate, fuck offsets in Textures.

and here's some areas from 0.4 alpha doom recreated

>>2418382 >>2418386 (...etc.)
may i suggest it would save you a lot of time to make screenshot montages. the one-minute post delay can be quite bothersome.

>>2418395
>Manually editing positioning in a text file and then going in-game to check it, then repeating as needed? Fuck that noise. FUCK that noise.
You should be calculating the offsets from the offsets in the images you're replacing. If you're doing it incrementally to recreate existing offsets rather than just calculating the offsets from existing offsets then I have no idea why.
If you're doing it correctly it's a matter of simple addition and subtraction.

Anyone have that .gif with the revenant that runs out at you?

>>2418459

Or you can just
drag and drop an image.

It's that simple.

I'm all for giving Mark shit but this is THE most reaching thing to grasp at to criticize him for.

Finally finished BTSX E2M31. Pretty fun. But because of its length and slaughter gameplay, and after a LOT of failed pistol start attempts, I had no choice but to use saves, as otherwise I would never have finished it. Took me over an hour of in-game time to finish it, not counting deaths/reloads. I imagine E3's secret maps will be even more insane.

Also finished E2M17. Very fun arena map, especially once the Cyberdemon is out to infight everything.

>>2418381
>>2418395
Can't TEXTURES lump create duplicate frames within itself with applied offsets?
It can. And it is done EXACTLY the way you shift any other sprite - you just change the letter of the output.
Change one letter in the file (the input file to be the same) - BOOM, no need for the extra file in the archive.

>>2418493
>And it is done EXACTLY the way you shift any other sprite - you just change the letter of the output.
how 2 shift sprite with textures: change letter, go in game to check, see if it's right or wrong, exit game, fix

how 2 shift sprite without textures: drag and drop image, compare with other frames, kick back and have a coffee

advantages of using textures: maybe 1 or 2 less megabytes in an era where people are downloading 20 gigabyte games
advantages of not using textures: pissing off autists

>>2418482
You can just
drag and drop an image
in the texture editor (and be done with)
or normally (and then place into textures)
and save mbs worth of duplicate data

It's that simple

I like that you're bringing up Mark into this when I never mentioned him and was criticizing ALL mod authors that don't do this
real classy

>>2418609
Or you can just drag and drop an image
and be done with it like that.
And never have to bother with the monstrous bullshit that is textures. And dismiss anyone (like you) that complains about a whole extra 2mb of filesize as a sperg (like you).

>I like that you're bringing up Mark into this when I never mentioned him
>>2418006
>>2418012
>Why does Mark uses duplicated frames in his weapons?
>Because he's a hack

>>2418502
>how 2 shift sprite with textures: change letter, go in game to check, see if it's right or wrong, exit game, fix
Nope.
If you're doing that, you're doing it in the most retarded way possible.
Either create the textures in the built in texture editor in SLADE, or animate normally and then when done with animation put the frames into TEXTURES
It's simple math. Like "what is 72 minus 43" level math.
>advantages of using textures: maybe 1 or 2 less megabytes in an era where people are downloading 20 gigabyte games
If you have any amount of animation at all, it can be 10mb for a single weapon. More if you have things like multiple ammo types being loaded into a gun, because you can chop up and reassemble sprites with the same parts not repeated.
>advantages of not using textures: pissing off autists
So you're one of those types. Real classy.

>>2418615
>If you have any amount of animation at all, it can be 10mb for a single weapon.
Hah hah hah hah hah bullshit. I just went through a pk3 I had open and counted 35 different frames of animation for a single weapon, which doesn't even add up to 3/4s of a megabyte.

If you have a gun that uses 10mb worth of sprites, you have a different problem entirely.

>>2418617
Is there a version of this without the zdaemon gamma?

>>2418615
>it can be 10mb for a single weapon.

what the fuck kind of mod are YOU fucking working on?

>>2418613
These are my only posts in this discussion:
>>2418381
>>2418459
>>2418609
I made no mention of Mark until this post >>2418609 which was in response to you bringing him up.

>Or you can just drag and drop an image
>and be done with it like that.
You can do that in the texture editor.
Or use simple math after dragging and dropping in the normal sprite viewer if for some reason you don't like the texture editor which is nearly identical to the sprite viewer.
>And dismiss anyone (like you) that complains about a whole extra 2mb of filesize
It's not 2mb of file size unless you're using 4 frames of animation total, in which case your entire mod is likely to be under 10mb in total anyway.
For a mod that is using about 1 frame of animation per tic (like most popular mods do; the only ones I can think of that aren't animation intensive are DRLA and DRPG) the filesize gain is much larger.
>as a sperg (like you).
Beautiful.

>>2418620
>>2418628
Anything that uses .png instead of a palleted .lmp

>>2418635
>>2418615
>>2418609
>>2418493
>>2418459
>>2418381
>>2418006

Shut the fuck up, you gibbering autist.

>>2418635

Those 35 frames I mentioned were .pngs.
Sorry, you are vastly overestimating the amount the amount of gain your twice-the-work-for-zero-benefit textures nonsense is going to do for modding and are just throwing a fit because modders aren't doing something you like.

I'm not going to rewrite every single frame offset in a text file just because you think it'll save 10 megabytes (it won't, it'll save maybe 500k at most).
If that upsets you, then get over it. No skin off my back.

>>2418625
not him but this is the background, you can try to remove it if you want. but it's been messed with too much for it to be an easy job, so i didn't bother.

the source is arenas2 before i forget it again.

Is it possible to add the new movement mechanics of Doom 4 into zdoom? I'm really interested into seeing how climbing, vaulting and rocket boosting could change the gameplay.

>>2418652

Rocketjumping has been possible for a while.
Climbing and vaulting could be replicated with a parkour mod.

>>2418652
>they grow up so fast.jpg
heh.

when all's said and done i am sure i will still prefer the original, but, opinions.

>>2418651
That was extremely easy, just so you know.

>>2418659
I meant the double jumping, people said it was done with a jetpack.
>>2418663
I'm actually excited, I doubt it will take over the originals, but I think that the stuff they're adding will work fine while staying in theme with doom 2.
I just really REALLY hope it will have good mod tools, RAGE's were shit. I'm sure everyone at id and Bethesda knows that doom has lasted so long because of fantastic mods. I just fear that Jewthesda will add paid mods and ruin everything all over again

>>2418681
you completely misunderstood my post.

he wants the revenant gif without an eye-searing background.

so i looked up the background, intending to use it as a difference mask, so i could extract the revenant animation on a transparent background. but it's been messed with (cropped, slightly resized, and is a jpeg) making it difficult.

never mind.

>>2418651
>>2418681
What map is this?

Judging from the hud, I'm guessing its from the 90's.

>>2418698
And I'm retarded for not reading...

>>2418698
http://webwonderland.com/arenas2/
arenas2, like i said.

>>2418663

I'll always be fond of the original, too.

>>2418693
I see. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
I'd fire up Fireworks and make that if I weren't busy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKyPReSiYgE

The MUSIC!!!!

I hope this will be brutalized someday!

I mean:

Seriously!

you can destroy mirrors and everything.

Now this needs just more gore from Brutal Wolfenstein

and this will be the best mod ever created for Doom!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=us3svc52VX0

>>2418705
I think the new design was inspired by this one, with all of the torn, blood meat. However the body still has some skin.

>>2418706
no problem.

thinking about it, it'd probably be easier to recreate the animation from the monster sprites than faff around extract them from an existing background.

but i too have other things i would rather be doing right now.

Finish the job, mods, deleting only half the conversation is stupid

where the doom arcade guy? is it almost done? wanna see that shit

>>2418489
>Also finished E2M17. Very fun arena map, especially once the Cyberdemon is out to infight everything.
i've yet to find the trick of this one. i let everything out, but the archviles annoyingly refuse to get distracted, and blow me up. or i fall foul of chaingunners or something while trying to hide from said archviles' attacks. it is extremely frustrating.

Has anybody got so insane he tried to put Meridian 59 sprites into ZDoom?

>>2418745
In my run, I let out the arch-viles first, and killed them with my fist/plasma before letting anything else out.

>>2417024
You said it. Thought I'd give it a more convincing look

MFW trying to find my way around the "Hunted" map in Plutonia.

>>2418838
14th June can't come soon enough for me.

>>2418856
Just use the automap

>>2418864
>Pre-order now for exclusive access to the series' famous double-barreled shotgun!

>>2418874
>Pre-order for Fallout 4 Early Access

>>2418874
Don't tempt me.

I might add it in later if I get bored again

>>2418874

Don't even joke about that, anon.

>>2418874
>>2418880
>>2418889
as expected, allowing doom 4 discussion here is causing /v/-style cynicism about the modern game industry's pernicious practices to seep into /vr/. please, take it elsewhere, it is not welcome here.

>>2418874
>double-barreled shotgun!
It's the Super Shotgun. It will always be the Super Shotgun!

>>2418894

>>2418894

I don't go on /v/ but I can't help but be cynical.

I want it to be good, and it very well may be an okay game, I have hope after the new Wolfenstein games. But I know there wont be any mod support for it and probably not even a map editor. Mods and an endless sea of maps are what has made Doom so great for so long

There will probably be pre order exlusives, there will probably be DLC and that DLC will probably be the reason they wont want mods or a map editor.

I hope I end up being wrong, I really do.

>>2418894
Are you saying that criticism of greedy corporate business tactics in the games industry is not valid just because you don't like to talk about it?

>>2418908
>But I know there wont be any mod support for it and probably not even a map editor.
Don't say that, please. Please no...

>>2418894
As expected /vr/ can't take a joke

>>2418909
this comic got me thinking
since someone managed to port doom to sansa clip through rockbox, would anyone have enough balls and skill to have doom work on in-car digital display? like some cars have proper big digital displays nowadays with good resolution, maybe it could be given a try?

>>2418913

I expect we'll be told it's just "Too complicated" which will be a huge crock of shit when Bethesda's own main IP practically survives on PC with mod support.

Developers like to blame that and licensing issues with 3rd party software they use as the reasons they don't use mod tools. I'm pretty sure they don't want people doing a better job of expanding the game than they do with their own DLC.

>>2418916
In-car digital displays are sometimes Android with a wrap app. Doom runs on Android in several different flavours.

>>2418920
There's modding tools for rage.
There's exactly one mod for Rage, and that's mostly changing around configs.

Uknown to me, a sort of official doom map pack had come at last, as the only good thing that came with Doom 3 BFG.

"No rest for the living" or Nerve.wad.
I am impressed, is quite good, I am finding it better than say, Plutonia, it feels more polished, something that doesnt just throw a buttload of enemies for no reason in a large area and give you the guns only gradually.

Playing at Ultra Violence and is quite hard indeed, to save up ammo I had to rely on in-fighting a whole lot but that made it just more fun and sort of strategic too, althought I am kinda worried at PIC related.

Throwing me the friggin spiderdemon and an archvile and various barons, how do I deal with it?
I got rockets the chaingun the supershotgun, few plasma shots and no backpack.

>>2418920
Then they're missing the golden opportunity:
Modtools are free.
The ability to USE the mods is DLC.
Play custom maps? $9.99!
Load custom monsters? $4.99!
Load custom weapons? $6.99!
Play custom soundtracks? $2.99!
Load alternate HUDS? 1.49!

>>2418931
Jump down there, get the mastermind to shoot the barons in the ass or vice versa. While they're keeping themselves busy, kill the archvile. Then mop up whatever's left.

>>2418931
old-old news. there was a re-port of it to boom compatibility iirc several days after it came out.

>>2418932
dont forget ability to monetize modding with 75% profit going to Beth.

>>2418931
That mapset gives me at least some hope for Doom 4's level design. Who made the levels?

>>2418949
>>2418931

There's a set of videos on youtube that details the making of some of the levels

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLZmVk4US70oh1wBUhL9SSRWalmIQwA-BE

>>2418920
I bet that without Carmack nobody will care to release the Source Code for RAGE, Wolfenstein or Doom 4.
>>2418940
>>2418942
Well I did not expect any different.
alright, I will try that, thanks.

>>2418931
Nigga turn your gamma down

RIP AND TEAR!

>>2418864

Ay-fuckin'-men brother.

>>2418949
this guy, http://doom.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Russell_Meakim_levels
apparently he posts on Doomworld or was it the zdoom forums, oh well he post there too, but he works at Nerve software, I would not expect this guy to work on Doom 4.
>>2418952
oh, thanks.
And it worked, circle around them, cause some friendly fire, lure the archvile and kill him, then go over the platform and massacre the mastermind with the plasmagun and thanks to the pain chance and the high rate of fire I came out fine.

>>2418970
I know, done.

https://youtu.be/HQPXtV0_9gQ?t=2m53s
UE4 mapdesign.

3rd minute.
I want Doom4 level building to be like this. With both brushes and models It would be literally DoomBuilder2+TesConstructionSet

>>2418970
How does this look?

>>2418864
>I got you now agitating skeleton, click clack get into my flak.

>>2418980

>191 fps

Damn skippy! What beastly rig do you have to run it that high?! I bet you could get fuckin 90 frames in a non retro game!

>>2418984

Not him, but I can't be the only one.

>Spend $2000 on a new rig.
>Play Doom all day.

>>2418991

Just curious, how many frames do you get in doom?

>>2418991
>>Spend $2000 on a new rig.
>>Play Doom all day.

Such is life in the GZDoom 2.0 zone

>>2418980
why doesnt mine look like that? I am using GZdoom for reference.

Some russian guy is retouching vanilla Doom 2 maps giving them all sorts of GZDoomy things. Looks nice IMO.
Also here's me playing them with demonsteele (I kno I suck)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YsqR5rDRmo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJIo7kZ_s9I

>>2418984
Dont loose your head. look at picrelated. top right corner

>>2418997
Because you forgot to add "lights" pk3 to autoload

>>2418997
a) I'm using ReShade to add levels adjustment and some bloom
b) you have texture and sprite filtering on - look at how the lamps to the right are smoothly shaded in your pick. Personally I don't like that.
c)I have the standard Lights.pk3 and Brightmaps.pk3 loaded, you don't

>>2418980
>>2418997
>>2419000
What map?

>>2418994

>>2418991
$1000 rig here (i7/660Ti) >>2419000
2000+fps vanilla
700-800 fps with mods
400-500 fps Turdal Boom
300-400 fps GZDoom feature-heavy maps.

>>2419005
...
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>>2419005
You kiddin me right?

>>2419005

>>2419005

Boku no Hangar.

>>2418979
An automatic wad to level conversion would be great. It would save a lot of time for porting existing maps, all you'd need to do is add in the more detailed art and it should be okay.

>>2419003
ops, I took out the filtering now, gee, how, disgusting, say thought, how do I set them to autoload, I am quite surprised that Gzdoom does not seem to have a sort of launcher or manager, I mean, doesnt your Doom folder end up looking a mess of pk, wads and png? Heck, not even a screenshot folder.

>>2419016
There's something like that for Quake long time ago
There's also something like that for GMod and therefore Source engine. Might be dead now though.

>>2419005
heh. i too have completely failed to recognise original game maps when they are smothered in the glitz and bling of the modern source port. although the screenshots in question were slightly more glitzed than that...

>>2419017
>I am quite surprised that Gzdoom does not seem to have a sort of launcher or manager
Download ZDL, it's exactly what you want.
> I mean, doesnt your Doom folder end up looking a mess of pk, wads and png?
You can have a separate wad folder if you use ZDL instead of drag-and-drop.

I am sure somebody must have mapped this, imagine a labyrinth, with the Cyberdemon, various traps in it and some monsters too, walls to open and walls that would trigger every X minutes.