/vr/ - Retro Games

Not all dreamcasts play backups.
Make sure yours does before burning more.

>>2408715
>DiscJuggler

There's your problem right there.

>>2408720
Mine has the '1 Pal E' on the back, which I think supports it. Or am I wrong? Can't find much information on which ones do and don't

>>2408715
OP, try using ImgBurn instead.

>>2408737
I have, again to no success :(
I was thinking it could be something wrong with the laser? but surely it wouldn't play normal games either.

Try also with using the boot disc first. I still use the boot disc before playing my images of HotD2 and DOA2.

>>2408746
Problem is I can't even get the boot disc to run :/
I have no idea what I'm doing wrong here...

>>2408750

Which one are you using?

http://www.theisozone.com/downloads/dreamcast/homebrew-apps/all-dreamcast-boot/

I use 1.3 (or 1.2). Used Discj and put and burned it on a disc. I don't think 1.5 was working for me back then.

Okay, stop everything you are doing.

>Get alcohol120% so you can burn shit in Dreamcast mode
>Make sure you are opening the cdi and not just burning it to a disc


Also, shocked nobody has asked: How EXACTLY are you burning these discs?

>>2408761
Think I've tried 1.1 and 1.5

>>2408764
I used tutorials

http://theisozone.com/tutorials/dreamcast/burning-and-backup/dreamcast-burning-cdi-2012-style/

and

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WwqK_illlE

>>2408769
Okay, sorry if I came off as an ass. The most common thing people tend to do is burn the cdi to the disc as a file.

>>2408774
It no problem :)
Are those methods good? As its a pain trying to find the root of the problem lol. I don't know if im burning them incorrectly of if my Dreamcast is shit or if the cdi's I'm downloading are naff

>>2408782
http://www.emuparadise.me/Sega_Dreamcast_ISOs/1

Try an ISO instead.

What brand are your discs? SUPPOSEDLY Dreamcasts are picky with what brand you get as far as discs.

>>2408792
I'm using a relatively cheap disc, the make is Signalex (700mb, 52x)

>>2408797
>Signalex
It's your media more than likely.

>>2408803
That would be typical aha. Any you can recommend?

>>2408817
Sony, and Memorex.

>>2408817
Even panasonic or something like that.

>>2408824
>>2408831
Thank you, and would use recommend using Alchohol120% instead of DJ and Imgburn?

>>2408839
I personally would, but that's only because Alcohol120% actually has a Dreamcast burning mode so you KNOW it's set up right.

>>2408850
I didn't no that. Sorry to keep pestering but how would I get that mode, is it done automatically or is there something I have to set up first?

>>2408860
You'll come to a page where you pick disc at once/track at once, data type, et cetera. Click data type and there should be a Dreamcast mode.

>>2408860
pretty sure I used imgburn and crappy CDs from the pound shop on my pal (1)

burn slow i guess, and what are you trying to burn? is the game not over 700mb?

I know there is a certain file structure to dreamcast games on the disk, that may be a problem.

>>2408881
The problem is Dreamcast uses GIG-discs, not CD-ROM. They are actually 1 gig.

>>2408727
I have the same version and mine plays backups just fine.

>>2408883
If you don't know the first thing abuot GD-ROMs,

THEN DON'T TALK IN THIS THREAD

>>2408881
Multiple, Crazy Taxi which is 691mb, JGR 736mb (Using overburn), several Utopia discs

>>2408874
Thanks, I'll give it a shot

>>2408889
Cherish it, my friend

It's also entirely possible someone changed the shell of the dreamcast before selling it (if you bought it used)

Could it be that your laser is somehow damaged so that it can't read backups anymore? I've heard that some Playstation 2 lasers may get damaged so that they're not able to read DVD's anymore but normal CDs and PS1 games work fine.

Do original games work fine? Does it play backup music CDs?

>>2408890
Okay? Am I wrong or something?

>>2408908
Yeah, it play my legit games fine, also tested cds on it and they played fine too.

Update.

Out of interest I burned a music CD to see if that would play. It did not, starting to think it may be the discs I'm using. As it plays normal cd's just fine.

>>2410559
It sounds like it's your Dreamcast then if it's not reading any burned CDs at all.

>>2408910
Yes. You are. You're also a shitty namefag posting in every thread. Go back to whatever shitty website you came from that required you need a name. If you don't know what names and trips are for, you shouldn't be fucking posting.

>>2410806
What exactly am I wrong about? The capacity of the disc? That Dreamcasts use them?

>>2411945
I dont like name fags either, but that guy is a piece of shit. just ignore him.

>>2410559
http://shibathedog.1emu.net/gd_rom_align.htm

Mark Henry in /vr/

feels right anon

>>2411970
Absolute best of luck to you if you choose to try adjusting the laser. I never had much luck and have ended up frying them.

>>2412337
Can you tell me how you did it? I've heard several people say the same thing but after years of adjusting the odd laser when it starts acting up I've never managed to fuck it up. I've even tried turning the pot large amounts in each direction and the laser worked just fine when I got it in the right position.

>>2412550
No idea. I've spent hours trying to get it to work. I don't know what you mean by "large amount" but it was only about a 1/4 turn to fry it.

>>2412337
>>2412550
Anon who linked it here. I did it just fine several years ago. I just kept tinkering with it in very tiny amounts, powering it back on, seeing if it booted, and repeating.

>>2412657
It's quite possible that I just don't have the patience for it. If I was smarter I would have just waited until I had a multimeter. Right now I'm trying to find info on using an oscilloscope to adjust it back to perfect.

>>2408715
Make sure your Dreamcast can do it. After the initial release they did some copyright protection.

Burn at 1x
I used to use DiskJuggler and it worked like a charm.

>>2412627
>quarter turn
that sounds like way too much
it's a very, very, very slight adjustment

Had to do it a while back when my games would have skipping music/wouldn't load properly.

Use Alcohol 120%
plus get your games from theisozone, most games there are self bootable, no utopia required

And still no program to auto convert GD-ROM to .cdi and burn on a CD-ROM.

>>2408745
Did you download the Dreamcast drivers?

>>2416983
You know GD-Roms hold more data than CD-Roms right? You can't just easily convert it like that.

>>2408737
>OP, try using ImgBurn instead.

bad advice, Imgburn sucks for anything that isn't a completely vanilla data disc. Any protection, multisession, subcodes, or multi-track formats, and it is a toss-up if it works or not.

>>2416983
>And still no program to auto convert GD-ROM to .cdi and burn on a CD-ROM.

How stupid can you get? GD-ROM dumps physically have more data on the disc, you have to downsize all of them manually on a case-by-case basis.

It really may just be the laser. When I finally got high-speed internet back in the ancient past I downloaded quite a bit of Dreamcast games only to find I could no longer read any new media I burned. That specific Dreamcast was just kinda fucked. My others read the media just fine. Try out the laser adjustment. Most of these weird tutorials for burning are unneeded. I think I ended up using CDI2NRG for my shit and it all works just fine. Just burn as slow as you can. Most drives/applications will no longer burn at 1x.

>>2417012
This. It's why most pirated DC games have lower quality FMVs

OP Update.

I've now got it playing CDR's :), I opened it up and adjusted the laser now its running all the games I've burned in the past.

Just want to say a thank you to everyone that gave advice. Now I'm off to play some Jet Set Radio!

>>2417012
So people must able to create a program to downsize the disc right? 64-bit don´t have programs running 100% by 32 or 16 bits.

>>2418327
No, they don't downsize the disc per-say, they downgrade the video/audio quality or in extreme cases cut out extra content like demos

>>2418421
So, a new tool show able to do it.