/vr/ - Retro Games

===NEWS===

[05-08] Another SUAB update, v0.2c
>>2391928

[05-04] Interview with Kaiser regarding Powerslave EX
https://powerslaveex.wordpress.com/2015/05/04/techraptor-interview/

[05-01] Endless Survival (Invasion with continuous spawns) v0.4
http://zandronum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=5811#pid80814

[04-30] OMG Weapons and Monsters! V3 - THE REBIRTH
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=48463

[04-30] Source model for BFG/TEKWALL/EXITDOOR/etc found
http://www.doomworld.com/vb/doom-general/72599-

[04-29] Retro Jam 3 for Quake has been released
http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61203
https://www.quaddicted.com/reviews/retrojam3.html

[04-29] GMOTA Zandronum port in preliminary stages
>>2373546

[04-29] Deterministic Doom (effects of constant RNG) now with video
http://jmtd.net/log/deterministic_doom/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvfJoy1rjmo

[04-27] Marathon Skins v0.8
http://zandronum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=5897

[04-26] HDoom techdemo 7 released
http://hdoomguy.tumblr.com/post/117443743997

[04-26] Doom / Mario crossovers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTXXOG6u3M8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPQ9kRevYUU

[04-24] The /newstuff Chronicles #475
http://www.doomworld.com/php/topstory.php?id=4402

[04-22] Romero's spring-cleaning: DoomEd source, unused maps, graphics
http://www.doomworld.com/vb/doom-general/72509-
http://www.doomworld.com/vb/doomworld-news/72504-

[04-22] Contra Doom (a new one modelling Contra III, not the one from the pastebin)
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=48392

[04-21] Push v0.7 is out. 70 maps -- /vr/ debates if the term "gigawad" is deserved.
http://zandronum.com/forum/showthread.php?pid=80536#pid80536

[04-21] TheZombieKiller's resource collection, now all in one thread
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=48386

[04-19] At Doom's Gate (E1M1) remade entirely from Mario 64 samples
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vxqtt8q8d4

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Please reply to this post with news.

first for shotguns

>>2401925
Second for Nightmare Fuel.

>>2401747
>>2401731

waitaminute what the fuck bro. are you a mind reader?

i was literally going to ask about this and his author and then two minutes later you did that post. this is some creepy shit.

what's the deal with hardcore doom wars and what was it about?

>tfw you will never be a medikit

>>2401926
>implying angles

>>2401942

>>2401937

Jeez.

Links to original posts?

>>2402013

what are you talking about?

>>2402013
>>2401937
Anybody still has those wads? Would like to
cheat through

>>2401069 >>2401084 >>2401086 (me) >>2401091 >>2401093 >>2401097 (me)

The Smelly Part of Hell (fixed version) - http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?id=1701

this map isn't very good. although there are only 99 monsters the layout is cramped and mazelike so it ends up dragging on. i liked the secret red great hall and fight in the nukage room for the red key. the room with the blue door and ledges over lava was annoying because it's easy to fall off and no way out.

I think I might keep the second stage of this rifle a railgun shot for the sake of extra utility.

So it'll go:

pew pew
rail gun
plasma rocket (I'll get a proper sprite for this)

I'll also add little graphics down there on the screen of the rifle instead of the entire gun morphing, that's just silly.

>>2402065
not sure if that's in your capacities, but a discrete but neat indicator could use these four "pins" on your gun.
maybe have them pop out as you charge, or light on, or turn red

>>2402069

I was thinking about having the pins extend, yeah.

Like the two bottom pins would first just out when you hit the railgun stage, and then the top two would stick out when you're at max.

I'd still want to add icons or something on the screen though.

>>2402071
fun, we had the same idea about those pins, just not in the same order

and yeah, icons could be good

>>2402065
are you using the railgun function or are you spawning that with acs?

>>2402201

Just a railgun function. I'm gonna either use that and maybe make it a different color, or just use a fast ripping projectile

>>2402025
Seconded

neat

>>2402245
neat indeed

Yo, I just installed Quakespasm on Ubuntu, and I have no idea where the fuck I'm supposed to put the pak files. I tried putting them in /usr/local/games/quake/id1/ as root, and I even changed the names to be all lowercase, but whenever I try to run it, it says "QUAKE ERROR: W_LoadWadFile: couldn't load gfx.wad"

What am I doing wrong?

>holy shit where am I going
>doesn't matter time to run through anyway
>trigger only every fucking enemy on the map
>AAHHHHHHHH intensifies
>found the last key
>see the door on the map
>run to the door at full speed while hundreds of revenants and cacodemons teleport in
>drill a hole through revenants with the bfg and open the door
>open faster you piece of shit
>stumble through the door while approximately one million projectiles are about to hit me
>level completed
Saved by the bell bitches

There's no better way to play wads than to incoherently stumble through at full speed like some kind of a deranged Mister Bean on cocaine.

Repostan from last thread:

So I managed to track down a grappling hook finally, but it's all ACS code. If anyone cares to take a look at it, I replaced some sprites (press X to launch it). I like how it works, but I need to know how to limit the time between launching hookshots, because right now you can spam the shit out of them. Also, I can't figure out where in the code it even picked the sprite it's using, and the spacing of the sprites (I'd want them to be spaced a little further apart).

https://www.dropbox.com/s/nhdvas2wt7bds9z/HOOKSHOTmodded.pk3?dl=0

Anybody still play ezquake? Also, any good doom wads like Hellbound out there? I like that the feel is like a whole new doom campaign.

Hey guys. I'm working on a Doom clone for Unity. Here's a sprite sheet for my game if you would like to try it out in Doom. I would like to see what it looks like in the doom engine.

>>2402203
Make it a lightning bolt, a rail shot with no rings, low sparsity and high maxdiff that is. Anyway set your particle style to "square" rather than "smooth" in your opengl preferences, I think it looks way better in doom at least.

>>2402448
That gun just looks like a piece of pipe. What is it?

>>2402471

A trench gun. Looks weird from that perspective.

>>2402474

Looks weird from that perspective too. Well, it's a shotgun.

>>2402474
It's really pretty anon, and I like the centered perspective. I always use console commands in CS:GO for example to bring the gun as close to the middle as possible, feels more realistic.

Anyway the idea that you have to bring a shotgun up a mile to pump it like in your animation as well as in Doom and most FPS games isn't really true. Example: https://youtu.be/Z3m-WNk44hI?t=81

I like it as it is, but it could be something to consider.

Just finished BTSX E2M15

Well, this was a long ass map. Took me just under 45 minutes to complete.

Now onto E2M31...

>>2402495
Bringing the shotgun upwards adds to the impact of the animation, though.
While it isn't realistic at all, it can make the gun feel more powerful by accentuating the pumping movement.

Basically, you know that curved line you had to look at in English class? The rising and falling action thing? It applies to animations, too. The tension rises as the character pumps the shotgun, the climax is the actual shot, and the falling action is the return to center from the recoil.

>>2402507
>While it isn't realistic at all, it can make the gun feel more powerful by accentuating the pumping movement.

Yes, this is what i was going for. I'm aware that it's not a realistic motion, it's just more "visceral" and makes it more satisfying to shoot.

>>2402507
>>2402516
Yes, I'm aware of the stylistic aspect. I just mean the animator should be conscious of how it works in real life. Apparently he is in this case and that's good.

Recoil, sound and muzzle flash is the most important part for it to feel visceral anyway, and I that's that's where most games fail to make their shotguns feel strong. F.E.A.R did it well.

>>2402531

>Recoil, sound and muzzle flash is the most important part for it to feel visceral anyway

I 100% agree, Killing Floor 2 did a good job on this as well. Does anyone know where i can download a meaty shotgun sound file?

>>2402474
Oh OK, I love trench guns, just the sprite looked flat black, like there was no surface detail.

>>2402541
Try googling up some Counterstrike: Source soundpacks or skins containing sound files. I remember hearing gunshot recordings of marvelous quality in those back in the day.

>>2402498
>Now onto E2M31...

Well, this is certainly hectic as fuck. Feels like a Poison Ivy map, and I like that the midi even shares some similarities to sod23's midi.

What is the best map? and why is it Deimos Anomaly?

>>2402498

Pack your bags, you're going to die.

>>2402605
e2m2 Containment Area or e1m3 Toxin Refinery are amazingly well designed maps.

>>2402605
E2M5: Command Center is easily the best map Sandy Petersen made (that wasnt a Tom Hall touch up) for the Dooms.

A nonlinear layout, with no keys, and two exits. Whats not to love?

>>2402605
The community had a vote about this. E2M2 is objectively the best map.

>>2402625
Also a pretty good map

I am working on Doom 1-styled animated intermission screens for Extermination Day (that will also be used on the Starter Pack). Currently working on the episode 2 screen. Does anybody know where to find a good smoke pillar sprite that will fit this image's angle?

>>2402636

Render your own in Blender.

>>2402605
I like E2M2 and E2M7 much better, by far the best maps in the game.

>>2402636
>sim city 2000 buildings
Kek.

The perspective of that image seems kind of... uneven sort of.

>>2402636
Maybe replace that sky with water or something. It looks odd.

>>2401159
>tfw someone saves something you made.

>>2402669

Or preferably replace the entire image with something suitable for Doom, rather than a post-apocalyptic sim game.

>>2402692
>Or preferably replace the entire image

No. Thats being rude. The rest of it looks perfectly fine for a D1 styled intermission screen.

>>2402636
Maybe stop stealing assets from SC2K.

I want to make some reaction images.
So who wants some impse ?

>>2402704
>stealing.

>>2402702
>The rest of it looks perfectly fine

It really doesn't.

It's not being rude, being rude would be saying that what he's doing is absolutely pointless, or that this is a retarded idea, or he has absolutely no talent in design or art and that he has to rely on resources nicked from other ill-fitting games to pretend to make up for these complete gaps in any sort of meritable skills.

>>2402710
>It really doesn't.

Sorry, but I'm not seeing it.

>>2402712

Fair enough, then. Different strokes for different folks.

Satanic + Hellbound is a fun combination.

>>2402669
Tried this. Looks better?

>>2402710
>>2402702
Yeah, maybe I should give up on this, take a shot from Google Earth, add some photoshop filters to it, and call it original work like somebody else did. Surely this will look 110% more doom-ish.
There is no such as thing as "Doomish" resources. Doom used a mix of pics of real places, pics of toy guns, clay model stop motion, a dev's hairy chubby arm, and even a pic of a real wound. Stop being an ass.

>>2402613
This is certainly the biggest difficulty spike so far. Understandably so, since its a secret map.

It certainly does a good job at what it was aiming for. E1's secret slaughter was underwhelmingly easy, on the other hand.

>>2402723
>Yeah, maybe I should give up on this, take a shot from Google Earth, add some photoshop filters to it, and call it original work like somebody else did. Surely this will look 110% more doom-ish.

Actually, yes.

>>2402723
I like that when you're trying to be sarcastic, you come up with better ideas than your actual one.

>>2402723
that sounds like it would be leagues better

>>2402723
>people are criticizing my flawless work! stop being an ass!

M8 if you think they were being an ass then you have the thinnest fucking skin in the world

>>2402723
Loving the boat that's the size of a city block.
Also resources from other games were not used in doom, but images were, so your sarcastic idea is not only better but more valid.

Currently playing Project: MSX. It strikes me how incredibly cohesive and thought through both gameplay aspects and visuals are. It's a great mix of modern and classic fps styles, kind of reminds me a little of RTCW in that aspect.

>>2402729
I will not bite it.

>>2402730
>resources from other games were not used in doom

Good. So let's all start removing every sprite and texture taken from Heretic, Duke Nukem, Shadow Warrior, Hexen, and any other game ever used in any other mod ever made because an anon thinks that ripping stuff from other games is shit.

>>2402723
I like the sprites; they should stay. Water looks way better than sky, but it' should be a smooth gradient like in this example image:http://www.enjoyourholiday.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/cocoa-island-air-view.jpg

The water you have now is a closeup and gives no feeling of depth. I get that it may be a mockup though.

As for the smoke pillars, do you have after effects?

>>2402735
>I am working on Doom 1-styled intermission screen
>that doesn't look like Doom
>stop being an ass!
>resources from other games were not used in doom
>So let's all start removing every sprite and texture taken from any other game ever used in any other mod ever made

Holy shit, dude.
If you're going for Doom 1 style, then accept it when people say it doesn't fucking look like Doom 1 instead of throwing a temper tantrum.

>>2402741
Like this?
Yes, I have After Effects installed, but I never used it.

>>2402743
When I said Doom 1 style, I mean't the intermission screen system itself, not the art style. I am not even remotely trying to do something that resembles Doom 1's art style. Then sorry if I didn't explained it better.

>>2402748
>Like this?
Much better, but you see that webbing of lighter areas that represents highlighting on waves? They're accurate enough for water seen at the distance of a few feet, from a high altitude view like that they'd only be visible as faint lines or noise.

>Yes, I have After Effects installed, but I never used it.
Making a simple animated smoke effect is very easy in it, and you can have it render it as a series of alpha png's. There are tons of guides for smoke and simple effects like that. I learned it to make this very water effect.

>>2402743
>If you're going for Doom 1 style, then accept it when people say it doesn't fucking look like Doom 1

I'm pretty sure he meant the intermission screen style. Not the art style.

>busy renaming dark side of phobos so that zdoom plays it
>realise there's no e2m3
>realise it's the intermission
>listen to intermission
>oh hell no

not for an entire map

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ieu9QKLUm0U

>>2402780
That doesnt even remotely sound like Doom's intermission. What were they thinking?

>>2402775
Interesting. I will surely take a look at it.

Insert your own Power Glove joke here.

>>2402780
I like dark side of phobos, but very few tracks would actually work in the context of the game.

>>2402748

Dude, that looks great. Don't worry about the haters.

>>2402786
New character for Demonsteele?

Is it another girl?

>>2402786
We Raiden now.
ALIBABAEYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

>>2402795
JOHNNYS IN THE CAAAAAAR

>>2402786
irso bad I wanna get it nao.

Are you going to add skeletons for every monster? I wonder how pinky would look like.

>>2402795
>>2402801

Webbum related.
This move probably will not actually be in.

>>2402815

Ideally, yes. I'm still a bad artist, though, so I'll have to try with a more unorthodox monster. I'll try the Nobles next.
At the moment (and probably for the test build), only the humanoid monsters have skeletons. Everyone else just flashes and lights up like a Christmas party parade.

>>2402791

Who knows?

Yes.

>>2402834
I was aboit to ask if this character could keep up with Hae Lin somehow.

I am interested in seeing more on how this develops

>>2402474
I prefer the slightly offset one myself. still thing the high res is going to look weird without a stylistic approach though.

Here's hoping it's fun if nothing else.

>>2402834
I can't help but notice the inspiration from Ocean going on here.

I LOVE IT!

>>2402715
>Zandronum 3.0
>Satanic co-op

yo what the fuck?

>>2402923
"Ocean"? I kno one Doom-related "Ocean" and it was a pretty fail-y marathon-wannabe

>>2402952
Magic. Satanic Magic

>>2402952
Probably a fake.

>>2402923
Isn't that the thing where you kill people by guarding your face?

>>2402636
Use Distort under Transform in Photoshop.

>>2402748
That looks miles better, the water looks a bit odd, in that it looks like water up close, also, it looks like it tiles a bit, but other than this, it looks really good.

>>2402834
If you need some sprite help, I don't mind lending a hand. I like Demon Steele enough. I can do the missing skelly parts you need probably.

>>2403045
Same goes for you Mark. I like BD enough that if you need some sprite work or whatever, shoot me an email.

>>2403045

I would sincerely appreciate that. I could definitely use a hand for this.
What's your e-mail?

>>2403048
I wonder what would Caco's skellie look like. Pretty sure it's different from normal skull =D

inb4 Skellington Doom where every character is an undead skeleton of a vanilla one, demons included.
Or better yet - an iteration on "fractal" - when you defeat a demon, there is a high chance that it's skeleton would get out of the flesh (in a gory way) and attack you.

>>2402789
Some of them are pretty great, but a lot of them... eh.

>>2403061
Should be in the name field, but if not it's artofjohnblaze at gmail

>>2403169
What do you mean?
Isn't it genius that somebody turned one of the most frantic tracks in Doom's soundtrack into elevator music?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41tfDuWzO4M

>>2403103
>2spooky4u.wad
>A SKELETON POPPED OUT

>>2403175
From a technical point of view?
Yes.

Would I actually want to listen it while playing?
Never.

>>2403175
>d_e1m9

wow big loss

>>2402715
You seem to be using a newer version. Where'd you get it?

>>2402987
Nope.

>>2403323
I asked the devs to test it. It's a massive leap forward in ZDoom functionality. Not quite 100% up-to-date, but very close.
You can even play normal Project MSX in it.

>>2403363
No, I mean the version of Satanic that you're using. It looks new. Newer than the version I found in the idgames archives, anyway.

>>2403363
>You can even play normal Project MSX in it.
What
Prove it

Post webm

>>2403378
Uh. Okay.
Give me a mapset.

>>2403385
http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/index.php?file=levels/doom2/Ports/megawads/dwmmp1.zip

Here's a mapset that nobody in their right mind would have recorded before
Spin around to the left twice, then jump

Did anybody noticed the new nightmare monsters with Doom 64 EX?

It's a decently old feature ( a few months I think ) but there's an option where you can select a nightmare version of a monster, which replaces it with a pretty beefed up and nearly invisible pallet swap.

Left is a knight, right is an imp.

>>2403407

whoops

>>2403407
wow they are invisible

>>2403395

Here.
Also featured, Zandronum-only in-game commands, spectate, join, and summoning the sphere for the Terminator game mode.

>>2403407
I see the knight, but I can't see the imp

is there STILL no news on DOOM4/DOOM-reboot?

I just want to see that footage so badly...

>>2403437

No. There isn't footage. Stop asking.

>>2403437

Juuuuuuuuust wait till E3 my friend. June isn't that far away.

They were thinking of this, most likely.
Just for some context, it comes in the middle of metal album.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSvtGQUqldA

Oops. Heh
>>2403480
.>>2402781

How would a Doom may cry work?
Has it been done before?

>>2403581
>he hasn't played DemonSteele

>>2403581
Demonsteele is probably the closest thing despite the author not actually playing DMC before

>>2401920
>no brutal doom

>>2403581
In a more literal sense, Psychic lifts several of its gun designs and sounds directly from DMC. Demonsteele is a closer relative in terms of gameplay, though, with crazy sword+gun action, ranking systems, and all that fun stuff.

>>2403596
Close as in how?

>>2403604
Sword is always available, guns are a side item.
Style meter is present; damage goes up as style goes up.
Your character is fragile, but fast and strong; run is replaced with a quick dash that can be used in midair.

>>2403604
Fast-paced action alternating between gun and sword, crazy special moves that do massive damage, ranking system that rates you as you go along, gotta constantly be aware of your environment because enemies are fast (but with telegraphed attacks) and can cut you down.
Also can launch dudes into the air to juggle them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RElfXigIe4c

>>2401747
Why do people find it funny to take text already in the image and enlarge it at random spots along with reaction images everywhere?

>>2403632
There aren't any reaction images in that though.

>>2403645
I just mentioned them for the sake of completion cause I'm a loser and find that shit annoying. The Doomguy faces in that image were actually fitting though, it's the random bits of text that are enlarged for no reason that's annoying me.

>>2403604

Are there doom textures for Marathon...?

>>2403596
>despite the author not actually playing DMC before

are you serious? I mean, what other game has the same combo system that ranks you in C, B, A, S, etc?

>>2403103

Yo, Reworking the weapons so they're more coop friendly (Changing weapons from hitscan to projectiles so it passes through friendly players)

The picture included is the revolver spread; Left is hitscan shots, right are the fast projectiles. Which one seems best to you guys? (Tested damage, both seem to kill Turmoils in ~5 shots.)

>>2403667

According to C, B, A, S? I'm not sure. But practically every later-era arcade beat-'em-up ranked you according to your combos, and a massive amount of fighting games do too.

It's not really unique to DMC. In fact, aside from the titles, Demonsteele's system is practically the exact same as Sengoku 3's, down to giving you a damage bonus for more hits.

>>2403682
>The picture included is the revolver spread; Left is hitscan shots, right are the fast projectiles. Which one seems best to you guys?
mate, there are a whole bunch of things to ask for opinions on
revolver spread is not one of them

there are a whole bunch of ways to provide data to offer a comparison of averages on
one screenshot is not one of them

>>2403681
[dukevoice]: Cool.
Now for other 7 rotations.

>>2403742
for the caco you only need 4, the monster is symetrical

which reminds me
>Nobody makes the full 8 rotations for soldier enemies
>Chaingunner actually had the 8 rotations for all the sprites
>r667 chaingunner major only has 5 rotations
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

Sooo... Here's a question for the DECORATE/ACS savvy

What are the best ways to implement variably Firerate and reload speed?

I can think of several decorate ways: Rate and Reload are representated as numbers, firerate is aproximated down to tenths of a second , reload is tics.

For fire rate: make a Fire state do check each tics for the Rate, and if Rate is somethingsomething, jump back to refire/ready. Now, the consistent firerate in ZDoom is only possible for following ROFs that are 35 divided by integer (35 / 17,5 / 11,6 / 8,75 / 7 etc), so to make it account for ROF's inbetween, we'd have to make it inconsistent by adding additional counter that would increment in each Firing, and make it skip/play additional frame when it reaches the required ammount. That requires precalculation, and the code will be bloated with constant checks.

Reload is simpler (if there are 5-6 frames like in classic) , or harder - if we go for a smooth ride (helped by extensive use of offset commands). Simpler route would have a check and an incremental counter after each frame that would bounce animation back to that frame until the frames "quota" is fulfilled. Smoother route would require to make a reload animation of maximum length then smother it with jump states allover the place after each tic for every possible value from max to min - loads on loads of checks on that one.


I have little experience with optimisation as you can see, so my code ideas are pretty straightforward, and probbably resourcehoggy. If you know of a better way of doing such things please tell me.

>>2403774
No, you pretty much nailed it with the rate of fire thing; it's what wildweasel and others have used to achieve a given fire rate in their mods.

http://gunlabs.blogspot.ca/2013/04/tutorial-explanation-of-half-tic-trick.html

It's not really intensive, but it can get ugly.

Are there any Doom mods with Blood weapons that are good? I want a Doom mod that really gets the feel/satisfaction of Blood's weapons down, complete with secondary fire of course.

>>2403103
...sunnuvabitch I want this so badly now.
I wonder how this mod would handle revenants. Would they just strip off their armor?

>>2402625
toxin refinery is better

Guns.

>>2403869
sweet.
red will be for the altfire, no?

>>2403774
>What are the best ways to implement variably Firerate and reload speed?
How do you want to implement them? Like just random, based upon player stats or something?

Don't listen to >>2403815, just because a lot of the gunlabs stuff is outdated; it will work but you'll have giant code.

>>2403901

Red is the cooldown, so it's blue when it's idle/charging up, and then it turns red after shooting as a cooldown state, with the pins sliding back in into the gun.

Altfire will probably be blue with all pins extended and lightning or some shit.

>>2403869
Can I use these sprites in a project?

Enjoying the new smooth doom version, its just enough vanilla to satisfy me.

>>2403910

These are just crude edits of a pre-existing gun, the UAC plasmatic rifle, go check Realm667

>>2403651
This is one of those cases when it's done incorrectly.

>>2403926
Yeah, seems a bit redundant. I liked pic related, though

>>2403856

It would just be another bonejangles. forever.

It's gonna be much faster in game. But... yeah.

working on maps again, made a cool elevator effect

>>2404021
>>2404039

TIGHT

Which WH40k faction would be more interesting to implement into Doom's gameplay?

>>2404070

Angry Marines.

Or Lazy Marines

>>2404070
>>2404073

EVERSOR ASSASSIN
they are literally the closest thing to doomguy

>>2402723
Honestly? The city sprites look fine, really. You just need to learn to ignore people when they are trying to piss you off.

>>2404073
>Not the Reasonable Marines

Still would like to see a practical to use Angry Marine launcher for co-op shenanigans though

I know a Imperial Guard-themed mod would practically be Hideous Destructor, what about xenos? Could a non-shit Fire Warrior game be sculpted from Doom?

>>2403681
That's amazing anon.

>>2404087
>they are literally the closest thing to doomguy
Nah in power, speed, and survivability it's the clan raukaan chapter master on a bike with thunderhammer, lightning claw, and chains of gorgon. Like the doomguy he's absurdly fast, nearly impossible to kill, and can single-handedly slaughter anything except for a select few named characters in the game.

>>2404093
>when they are trying to piss you off.

There's whiteknighting, and then there's "the people giving you criticism are all secretly trying to troll you!!!".

>>2403869

>>2403103
>I wonder what would Caco's skellie look like.
i always thought they were more like jellyfish with horns. the way they collapse on death suggests a lack of bone structure, anyway. (disclaimer: i know next to nothing of biology)

>>2404161
Probably not jellyfish but an echinoderm

>>2402605
did you really mean e2m1.

it's not without charm or redeeming quality. but the best map...?

>>2404129
rainbow gun, fueled by real unicorn juice

>>2402605
E4M6: Against Thee Wickedly

>>2404129

This upsets me for certain reasons.

>>2404186
sorry. i just really like hue rotation.

>>2404187

I'm colorblind, so a lot of these colors look the same to me. It does look cool though

fuck cyan, fuck it hard

>>2404070
Orks, because all of that Dakka.

Damn man, I surprised myself here

>>2404203
What've you got against Cyan, dude?

>>2404237

Capn.J model rip

>>2404240

Uh. Okay?

>>2404203
fascinating. what do you see for each of these colors?

>>2404245
and the same thing with the halfway points

>>2404245
>>2404246
actually never mind this is too off topic for a doom thread.

>>2404238
he has a masked biker on his chest

>>2402625
>The community had a vote about this. E2M2 is objectively the best map.

i disagree that the best map can be decided by a knockout tournament.

looking at the results:

http://doomwiki.org/wiki/April_Agitation

e2m2 defeated e2m3, map10, map15, e1m1, e1m7, and map29.

while that is an impressive list of victories, it avoided several others that could have been strong contenders because of the way the draw panned out.

this is the inherent problem of using a knockout tournament to decide the overall best.

also it is important to note that many of e2m2's victories were achieved by less than a single percentage point of the vote. the results do not take this into account.

this is an inherent problem of a first-past-the-post voting system.

there is no completely fair voting system (this has been proven mathematically, i believe). but there are better systems than a knockout tournament.

- for example a league, where every map faces off against every other map.

- or a voting system where the candidates are ranked for preference instead of picking a single winner for each round.

a knockout is simply the easiest to administrate (simplicity of vote counting) and has the shortest time to completion (compared with a league) and i imagine Linguica didn't want to spend all that much time on it. nevertheless the result of a more long term contest would be very interesting.

>>2404267

I was mostly being facetious. I hate E2M2.

>>2404270
oh. well, shucks.

i don't think that invalidates my point, but it does seem like i was blustering for nothing.

heh. never mind, carry on...

>>2404280
No, if anything your point is stronger.
E2m2 just isn't the best. It had a limited opposition, and since it only won by one vote each time it was struggling uphill the whole time.

I've decided that i'll allow myself to use saves during BTSX E2M31. I highly doubt I'll ever finish it, without them.

I'll resume back to my pistol restarts after this, though.

>>2404285
>only won by one vote each time it was struggling uphill the whole time.

This smells like it was rigged.

>>2404291
i don't blame you, i don't see how to get through it in one sitting, it's such a long slog and there's too many places where it can go horribly wrong and who'd want to start all over again after that?

>>2404316
So much arch-viles traps. Theres like 75 arch-viles in the map (87 if you count multiplayer)

>>2404231
>Z& mod
>Players are different types of Orks who have to salvage materials from enemies and around the map to survive against waves of enemies
>Weapons are modified like in DoomRL Arsenal

>>2403906
Based on both guns and player stats.

I'm fiddling with borderland-esque system where guns can have different ROFs, with increments of 0.1 rps.

ROF is affected by both player stats and gun stats. When player gets a gun ready, ACS does calculation based on gun parts and produces a series of variables that are actual weapon stats, which are being further influenced by player skills (like +10% rof +15 to reload speed, stuff like that)

>>2404335
yes. that is a huge number but by itself isn't such a big deal; i think the problem is more that it makes you fight anything up to a dozen of the wretched things, plus a horde of other monsters (which act as meat shields and keep getting resurrected), at once. too much for me to deal with. i haven't even managed to pistol start the map on HNTR.

>>2404373
>but by itself isn't such a big deal

Its a slaughtermap. This point is irrelevant.

>>2404369
Aight.

Then whenever you have something that should have a duration based upon acs, run a script that gives X number of counters, where X is how many tics you want it to take. Then have the state it goes to be like this

ThisState:
GUN1 A 1 A_TakeInventory("Counter",1)
TNT1 A 0 A_JumpIfInventory("Counter",1,"ThisState")
Goto StateAfterThisOne

Okay, just need some sounds for the pins sliding out, new plasma rocket sounds, and get around to making that lightning beam altfire, and this weapon'll be ready

>>2404435
i really like how it looks

and for the pin sounds, i'd say a "click" followed by some low humming

>>2404435
>Self damage
Not sure how to feel about that.

Really cool weapon besides that.

>>2404437

Yeah, I can probably cobble together some nice stuff from TF2 for that, I still can't believe how good those icons turned out all things considered.

>>2404438

Yeah I was just thinking that, the default projectiles this rifle originally had have splash damage that hurt -you-, I'm gonna remove that, and fine tune the rocket a little more to make it worth the cell cost.

>>2402025
>>2402206
I may be a little bit late and it may not be the correct version, but here's a mediafire link, don't tell anyone where you got this.

http://www.mediafire.com/download/zzv7ajezlx207hd/HARDCORE_DOOM_WARS_0_1_ZAN122_v3_5.pk3

ARE YOU READY TO RIP????
LOAD WITH BRUTAL DOOM V19 TO BEGIN YOUR JOURNEY INTO COOL DOOM :D

MAPS, MONSTERS, MASSIVELY MAMMARY BUSTING WEAPONS

>>2404413
>reads that one gunlabs article
>There's A_SetTics function that I haven't seen used anywhere yet
>tfw POSSIBILITIES
>immediately think of SUPERHOT doom

>Frazetta styled doom fan cover art made with actual oil paint and a canvas.
It's over, we have reached the limit of fan art. Everyone go home.
Could the OP make this the image for the next thread, please?

What are some good wads for co-op? Any good "horde mode" type ones?
And to play them over LAN I would just use the create a game thing in Doomseeker and set the Game mode to Cooperative? If I play with no additional wads can I just straight up play though Doom or Doom 2 coop in this way?
I am going to be finally introducing a friend to the game.

>>2403632
It's part of this culture. It's a meme. People find it funny. It's just accentuating certain parts someone has written for humorous effect.
It's kind of like a laugh track now that I think about it.

>>2404267
E2M2's win in April Agitation is about as legitimate is a New England Super Bowl win.

>>2404652

yooooooooooo

A couple of threads ago I asked whether anyone had an iso of a shovelware CD called Supercharged Xpansion. I couldn't find one.

So I bought a copy.

If anyone wants a copy, I'll upload it to some filehost.

Should I upload it to the internet archive? Are there any copyrights I have to sort out?

>>2404270
>i hate E2M2

>>2404435
are you gonna use that acs script for lightning or something else?

>>2404670

>>2404783
Really? I just think it's such a good level, it's large and sprawling, it has some quasi realistic elements to it while also being abstract, the pacing is good, the atmosphere is amazing (especially thanks to the music), I love the secrets.

I think E2M7 is just way better though. I wish there was a 32map megawad rife with E2 style levels like those.

http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=37064&start=345
I... what? He's alive? When it'll come out?

>>2404932

Marty's last post in the topic was over two months ago and last content post was over three months.
You're acting like this is a new development.

is the black marine a random spawn in colourfulhell or a bug?

>>2405168
nevermind answered my own question

Sorry to ask a bunch of questions, but,
How does Samsara handle the weapons when playing in Hexen? I know that game usually only has 4 choices, so are you stuck with only 4 weapons, or are the pieces of the ultimate weapon their own weapons?

Also, how would one go about starting to make their own gameplay mod? Specifically to replace weapons.

>>2405219
>I know that game usually only has 4 choices, so are you stuck with only 4 weapons
keyconfig I imagine

Though they might do things differently these days.

>>2403602
this
who has a link to the fixed may 9th test version? I saw it get released but i forgot to download it then

>>2405219
>or are the pieces of the ultimate weapon their own weapons?

Yes.

>>2405345
nevermind, I did download it and here's marks trip for anyone who wants to search the archive

!!7AmZzMETkut

>>2405345
http://www.mediafire.com/download/xjs4h7gnuwb8ann/brutal20test-may9.zip
Be careful when you try to knock a barrel over; doing so awakens a long-forgotten hatred towards barrels in your marine allies.

>>2405219
>How does Samsara handle the weapons when playing in Hexen?
The weapon pieces and each of the class-specific weapon spawns are replaced. For instance, Timon's Axe is replaced by Slot 2, the hammer is replaced by Slot 4, Firestorm is Slot 3, and the first weapon piece is slot 5.

>Also, how would one go about starting to make their own gameplay mod? Specifically to replace weapons.
Crack open other mods and see how they work and what happens when you change things. It's the best way to learn. Just avoid using Brutal Doom as a reference, because under the hood it's a real spaghetti fuckfest. And obviously don't release any modifications you make to other people's mods unless you have permission from the author.

Dicking around with post-processing. I think I've finally found a nice balance with the Bloom effect. Levels does a lot too.

>>2405367
It doesn't even go ballistic in ridiculously white areas.

>>2405367
>>2405372

That looks interesting.
What's your settings?

>>2405379
MasterEffects with:
Levels
>#define Levels_black_point 9
>#define Levels_white_point 230

Bloom
>#define iBloomMixmode 4
>#define fBloomThreshold 0.65
>#define fBloomAmount 0.4
>#define fBloomSaturation 1.6
>#define fBloomTint float3(1.0,1.0,1.0)

Next step would be some sort of color grading I think, preferrably tinting dark pixels ever so slightly blue.

Major update

Some part of the map now has some areas from alpha 0.4 doom fully recreated

>>2405413

also the lights are the only added while the rest is faithful

>>2405417

meant to say only added part

>>2405419

>>2405420

here's the file

https://www.dropbox.com/s/5ph7u3dz3fj2xa5/gbadmplus_Map01and02.wad?dl=0

Each map will have some areas from early versions of doom recreated (maybe make the early weapons playable)

The first map is mostly complete while the second map is WIP

>>2405426

>>2405432

>>2405436

and here's some shots of the second map (with no linedef)

>>2405440

>>2405441
and here's the sky

>>2404759

Nah. It's gonna shoot lightning beams that hit monsters and then spray outward. Real simple

>>2404670
Mad cratefucker detected

>>2405372
What WAD(s)?

>>2405761
CaH.

>>2405769
CaH? I've been living under a rock for a little while, Anon.

>>2405771
http://zdoom.org/wiki/Cold_as_Hell

>>2405367
i want to get into post process lighitng with gzdoom because there is no lighting setting that by default works satisfactory for me 100% of the time. when standard annoys me i go to software. when software annoys me i go to legacy. when legacy annoys me i go to doom, etc etc...

Anyone else not able to see the crosshair in Hideous Destructor? Also, is the HUD cut off for you too?

>>2405819

Crosshair is disabled in HD.

>>2405776
Many thanks, Anon.

Well, fuck. Looks like CaH isn't working too well with my GZDoom install.

And trying to install the git version doesn't work, at least not through the AUR.
>tfw linux
>tfw repos fail me

Okay, Cold As Hell is segfaulting every time I load it up.
What the fuck is going on.

GZDoom is segfaulting every time I launch it, period.

What the FUCK.

>>2405925
You do have Mesa installed, right?

>>2405426
that is an impressively poorly-maintained wad directory, there are 8 headerless maps in it. you have clearly tried to delete some old maps and only removed the labels -- the THINGS, LINEDEFS etc. lumps remain.

>>2405934
I *should* have it installed. Might not be updated, though.

>>2405942
Always make sure Mesa is completely up to date. Another thing to be sure of is your kernel architecture, so you get the right FMOD installation.
uname -a should tell you the kernel version, and you might have to get fmod's .so files manually if they aren't in the repo.

>>2405946
Well, Mesa is updated.
Kernel is 4.0.2.1-ARCH.
fmod is installed, and up-to-date, near as I can tell, from the official repos.
The console output is hilariously tiny.

GZDoom g2.0.05 - 2014-12-27 15:57:09 +0100 - SDL version
Compiled on May 16 2015
Using video driver x11

M_LoadDefaults: Load system defaults.
Gameinfo scan took 0 ms


*** Fatal Error ***
!!! Failed to exec debug process
[1] 21386 segmentation fault (core dumped) gzdoom

>>2405949
That is quite amazing.
I'd try it myself since I do an Arch-Windows-Debian tripleboot and haven't used GZDoom on Arch in a while, but that does sound like Graf balls'd something up on Linux (he is a very big Windows fanboy) and nobody's reported it yet.
I'd recommend you try compiling ZDoom and see if it works. If it does, go to the DRDTeam forums (graf's gzdoom lair, essentially) and ask about it there.

>>2405426
>>2405937
gameboy deathmatch levels? makes sense given the wad's filename

>>2405949
I too am running Arch Linux.
I found that appending the -iwad parameter allows it to launch.

Example

gzdoom any_pwad_you_want.wad -iwad DOOM2.WAD

I'm running the 1.9 branch before the whole OpenGL version fiasco, which generally works better.

I think the problem is that FMOD, being proprietary, was compiled on a system with a differing configuration than Arch. While Arch uses a specific kernel configuration, a newer version of GCC and GNU utilities, the latest systemd to manage daemons/services/etc., Ubuntu LTS has a different kernel config, upstart as its init system, and older GNU tools.
These minute changes can have effects on the libraries an executable binary dynamically links to and shit.

Also, Zandronum seems to work fine if all you need is GL rendering. If its ZDOOM SVN changes you need, you may be out of luck unless you figure out what needs patching

Did Heretic or Hexen get any interesting mods? I know Hexen has that Wrath of Cronus mod but i wasn't too impressed when I tried it.

will gzdoom run normally with this radeon r7 260x card in my new build?

>>2406016
I don't see why not.

>>2401920
Find me a better model pack.
>You can't.

>>2406031

>not this shittu againu

>>2406031

>>2406031
While it ain't good, i'm intrigued, where do I get this?

>>2406038
DOOMSDAY Doom model pack
>Google it. Stat.

>>2405949

HOLYSHIT
I'm this guy:
>>2405973

Within the last month, several major commits have been made both by Graf Zahl and edward-san that have fixed fucking everything.

Just compiled the latest master from the git repo (https://github.com/coelckers/gzdoom)), last commit 9 days ago.

No problems, not a single compiler warning even. Also, FMOD is no longer required, and can use OpenAL to connect with ALSA under Linux instead.

I'm fucking stoked. Pic related, working fine.

>>2406040
>FMOD is no longer required
wow. if that's true, i'm impressed.

>>2406031
That is actually pretty good, I know most model packs tend to change things but that's pretty nice.

>>2406046
Happy to say it is true, friend.
Although you can still have FMOD support compiled in if you want.

There is a new setting in sound options, "Sound Backend," which allows you to change the Audio API used, as shown in this pic. GZDoom will automatically choose one your system has upon launch, too.

I'm really happy with the way GZDoom is turning out. Still kind of dumb it requires the newer OpenGL API it doesn't really take advantage of, but Graf Zahl seems to be more open to merging stuff from other devs lately.

>>2404664
doit
MEGA

>>2404664
>Should I upload it to the internet archive? Are there any copyrights I have to sort out?
For shovelware stuff? Likely not and guessing the company that put out the CD is long out of business too. Besides, Archive.org has special exemption from DMCA and whatnot.

>>2405937

Forgot to get rid of them since I convert them Doom to UDMF format, thanks for telling me.

here's the fix version

http://www.best-ever.org/download?file=gbadmplusv1c.wad

>>2405972

I really have no idea how that got fucked up

>>2406082

>>2406082
sorry for confusing you, i had restored the partially deleted levels and ran them in my own prboom-based engine to look at them. it is likely there were some texture incompatibilities, i saw some errors in the console. since you're doing zdoom-specific work, you can ignore my screenshot.

>>2406090

its fine

I deleted the levels since I'm doing one at a time.

I just linked the wad that got rid of them.

Gameboy version is the only version worth playing on my phone... Wish a port would take advantage of the xperia plays pad... though noone but be uses one anyway.

>>2406031
You're right I can't find you a model pack better than that steaming pile of donkey shit. You win.

Asking here too on the off-chance that anyone knows: Is there a way to align custom actors spawned instead of particles from a railgun attack?

>>2405825
Isn't there the crosshair for weapons that appears when you stand still? The grey one?

What are the best oblige settings for some permadeath DoomRLA + oblige sessions?

>>2405413
What's the name of your project? I've seen it once but then kinda forgot it.

>>2406246
Wait, how do you enable permadeath?

>>2406312
No permadeath feature Im afraid, just some self-discipline my friend.

>>2406312
self-discipline

Zandronum 3.0 is amazing. Just played TUTNT with marrub, and it was completely playable, for both of us, despite me being in Australia.

>>2406325
great, can't wait four and a half years for it to come out!!

[weren't you the guy porting zandronum netcode to modern gzdoom?]

>>2406329
Yeah, but I gave up because the Zandronum team are doing a much better (and faster) job themselves, at this rate, Zan 3.0 will be out much sooner than you'd expect.

>>2406325
Also note that the server was an impromptu local server I set up in 2 minutes.
I don't really want to fuel the flame of Zandronum versus ZDoom netplay, but...
The last time I tried doing an impromptu game of ZDoom with a friend, it resulted in about an hour of setup, and despite him being not but a town over, we had absolutely horrid lag, and many strange issues.

Alrighty, all necessary coordinate goes where it should, and there's a neat debug window to show it. Next step is simply to write some conditional statements for the mouse clicking script.

There's a problem when two interactable actors enters the players range of interaction at the same tic and one of them gets left out though.

>>2406349
I found your problem

>>2402636
hey mark, when are you go back to this again?

http://www.moddb.com/mods/brutal-doom/news/ultimate-brutal-arsenal-expansion-pack-first-beta-november-30th

>>2406286

GBA DOOM PLUS

I posted the link

Still trying to run Cold As Hell.

As soon as I get to MAP02, it crashes. Immediately. Segfault.
Installing ZDoom, gonna try and use that.

Let's test this shit out

GBA Doom Deathmatch Plus Testing (only one map completed)

keep in mind since MAP02 has no linedef you might wanna votemap back to MAP01

>>2406574
Update: Zandronum does it. Woo!

>>2406610
>finally get to play Cold As Hell
>fail miserably at it
dammit

What are some good HUDs for GZDoom, bros?

>>2406325
>>2402715
>>2403323
>>2403363

So, it's a sooper sekrit build, huh?

Makes a lot of sense taking into account what just recently happened. HEH.

>>2406648
What?
It's a public test build. Watakid is providing up-to-date links.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/fbzeig6b802cc6z/zandronum-3.0-150516-1553-abdac7b-windows.zip?dl=0
You could have just asked instead of being a snarky asshole.

>>2406654
>You could have just asked

At least two different guys asked for a link yesterday.

>>2406654
Actually, sorry, just looked at the posts you linked. That warrants being a snarky asshole.

>>2406639
I don't feel like any of them suit my tastes. I want a minimal amount of clutter, and small but readable health/ammo etc. counters very close to the crosshair. Used to play quake live with a hud like that and it was amazing.

>>2406663
Uh, no. There were people asking what it was, but nobody was asking for a link.

>>2406664
Uh, no. There's nothing "sooper sekrit" about it. They're playing Zandro with mods. If you feel excluded, you can get in or fuck off.

>>2406654
>You could have just asked instead of being a snarky asshole.

That would require logic, which has no place in a shitposter's world.

>>2406670
>Uh, no. There's nothing "sooper sekrit" about it. They're playing Zandro with mods. If you feel excluded, you can get in or fuck off.
I think you misread my post, Anon. I've been testing Zandronum 3.0 as well.

>>2406672

Then how does it "warrant" being a snarky asshole?

>>2406679
Because he had asked before for a link (unspecifically) and gotten a vague reply.
To clarify, I've only made these posts in this thread:
>>2406349
>>2406654
>>2406664
>>2406672

>>2406683
>Because he had asked before for a link (unspecifically)

Please point out where he asked for a link to download and play.

>>2406684
This post right here:
>>2403323
As I said, he wasn't specific, but his intent was more or less obvious to me given the current context.

>>2406686
Anon...
See >>2403375

pls no bully guise ;_;

>>2406695
Oh, that clarifies a lot. Sorry.

>>2406648
what just recently happened?

>>2406686

That's not really a vague reply. If anything, saying "The devs gave it to me" is a very specific reply.
Even then he wasn't even talking about Zandro 3.0, but he's already gotten the derail he wanted. Good job.

Responding to shitposters LITERALLY KILLS THREADS.

>>2406705

I really hope you're not who I think you are.

>>2406705

>overreacting this much over something you will forget the day after

>>2406708
I'm not, thankfully. I'm just sad that person tainted basic advice so bad, people actually believe following it makes them like him.

>>2406714
>I'm just sad that person tainted basic advice so bad...

I wasn't talking about THAT guy...

>>2406654
>https://www.dropbox.com/s/fbzeig6b802cc6z/zandronum-3.0-150516-1553-abdac7b-windows.zip?dl=0

So is this based on 2.6 or...

>>2406746
2.7.0

>>2406746
2.7.0 as of now. They're still working on 2.7.1, and will stop there.

>>2406749
>>2406750

fucking LIES!

I mean, I should've expected it since Terminus became part of Zandro's staff, but jumping straight to the most recent stable ZDoom version?

#rare

>>2406749
>>2406750
>>2406752

so wait, Reelism should be playable as-is, right?

>>2406753

Yes.

>>2406749
>>2406750
impressive, and i had been led to believe it was supposed to be hard to make zdoom gameplay features work correctly over client/server.

>>2406752
turns out zandronum has its own alex jones

>AND IVE SEEN THROUGH YOUR LIES, BARRY TERMINUS, YOU WICKED, WICKED DEVIL! *screams like a revenant*

>>2406780
>turns out zandronum has its own alex jones

one_Two?

>>2406775

Why do you think it's taken this long to do it?

>>2406639
>>2406668
http://www.moddb.com/mods/brutal-doom/addons/simple-hud-v1
My go to HUD, simple, not the default microscopic text, and more importantly: Doomguy's face

Is there a mod that makes the invulnerability power up not eye killing? Or is there a ZDoom option?

>>2406794
to go from the release of 2.0 to a playable 3.0? seems like only a couple of months.

>>2406794
to go from the release of 2.0 (based on zdoom 2.5) to a playable 3.0 (based on zdoom 2.7)? seems like only a couple of months.

>>2406828
i don't think there's an option but i know it's possible to change because mods change it. maybe you can edit something in zdoom.pk3?

the definition of InvulnerabilitySphere is in doomartifacts.txt, try changing Powerup.Color from InverseMap to a color/alpha tuple

>>2406828 >>2406854
and some additional information here
http://zdoom.org/wiki/Powerup_properties
also, maybe its better to create an autoloaded add-on, instead of hacking your zdoom.pk3. i don't know really, i don't use zdoom much.

>>2406854
>edit something in zdoom.pk3?

reactionface/greentext posters to leave, please. you contribute nothing.

>>2406871
And I thought I was the one who was triggered here.

>>2406854
>>2406863

If you give me five minutes I can make a patch mod for that.
One moment.

>>2406871

fine, whatever

What is the worst WAD you have ever played? Preferably ones that are more than one level.

>>2406886

Okay so it took a little longer than five minutes WHOOPS

http://www.best-ever.org/download?file=altinvuln.wad

>>2406865
>>2406880
>trigger /v/ meme

not him but this is not, was not and will never be welcome on /vr/

>>2406928

Shut the fuck up cyber__demon

>>2406923
That reminds me, does anyone have the youtube link of the .wad where the level is a womb and the player gets attacked by a fetus? Truely the most magnificent pottery of our time.

>>2406923
OCEAN.
Term did a playthrough on it. Check it.
Basically EVERYTHING that is wrong with ZDoom modding and mapping condensed into one thing, while being completely serious non-mockawad.

>>2406930
>LOOK GUYS I MEME'D A NAMEDROP

Looking forward to seeing your meth lab explode.

>>2406928

>>2406865
GIGGERED

>>2406940
>I MEME'D A NAMEDROP

"Meme'd a namedrop"? Seriously?
Get out.

Can we ever get a special layer for the player hands (like we have for FLASH)? It would be really nice to have Classes with same weapons without making different weapon copies for each class to have different hands.

DMSEWER.WAD - http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?id=13031

has an unusually large number of moving parts for a first wad; crushers, annoyingly slow lifts, even a stair builder, which seemed a little broken. one of the crushers was rather a surprise and killed me.

much of the map is unfortunately cramped and maze-like. it appears to have an area inspired by the lost soul maze on E2M3, which if you are going to copy part of the IWAD that is a strange choice of which part to mimic.

quite a few bugs too, BSP errors causing walls you can see through, use of transparent textures on single-sided lines, which i suppose is excusable given the age, but still, this isn't a map i can really recommend, not even to those who appreciate the really early stuff.

>>2406940

None of our business if you get triggered (BECAUSE THAT'S THE FUCKING WORD FOR IT) over stuff you have absolutely no control of. Someone found your twitter by mere accident and you overreacted to all hell and back, it's your fault for exposing yourself this hard on the internet.

If you don't like this place the door is completely open. It's the best for both sides, honestly.

>>2406952
I overreacted because I thought certain individuals would dox me. I like /vr/ and it legit fucking pisses me off to see /v/'s refuge leaking into it. Any element of /v/shit

>gratuitous console war bullshit (I'm aware this was very prevalent in the old days but I've seen nintenyearold used before on this board, sadly)
>/v/ culture like Chris-chan or Anthony B.
>needless /pol/ false flag feminism or muh heritage nigger nigger nigger nigger bullshit
>unrelated shit that only gets by because of either /v/ literally bribing it's mods or being technically vidya related like cringe threads or LOL threads

needs to be dealt with immediately lest it spreads and take over the board. It's already happened to /sp/, /v/ and /pol/ leakage have literally damaged that board beyond repair.

Don't give me that BUT WE CAME FROM /v/ bullshit, you came here to get away from their fucking filth and you fucking know it.

Too bad I'll be talked down for speaking the truth. Certain people don't like it when you tell the truth, in fact it has such an ill effect on them, they actually feel ill when they hear truth!

>>2406959

>Certain people don't like it when you tell the truth, in fact it has such an ill effect on them, they actually feel ill when they hear truth!

you tell me

>"AHAHAHAHAH THE MEME HAS FINLALLY BAOEVN PAOSETNE ADSIOFH AHHAHAHAHA HIT HAS MEMED NOW AHOAHHAHAHAHAH PARASIE JESSWU"

https://twitter.com/cyber__demon/status/597564046498537472

>>2406959
>Don't give me that BUT WE CAME FROM /v/ bullshit, you came here to get away from their fucking filth and you fucking know it.

I still post in /v/ from time to time. Sue me.

Label me for posting in places you don't like.

>>2406959
>>2406963
wait what the hell

i just wanted to call out bad practice

this wasn't supposed to happen :^(

>>2406959
I do not understand why you're getting upset over this.

>>2406973
>this wasn't supposed to happen :^(

his existence wasn't supposed to happen too, but hey, shit happens.

now we have to deal with losing his support over our mods.

>>2406959
>Too bad I'll be talked down for speaking the truth.

No, you'll be talked down by being a knee-jerk overreactionary, nonsensical, paranoid and shitposting cuck.
/vr/ is /vr/. /v/ is /v/. We're both 4chan. Hell, we're sibling boards.
Whining about what you don't like on one board is DARING to seep into another board is the height of autism.

If you really want there to be a change, don't sperg out to other people over what you think they're doing wrong. That's just going to piss them off and make you look retarded. You're not the police. You're not the mods.
You know how much everyone fucking hates backseat drivers? You do not dictate how the conversation fucking goes. You do not dictate what words are okay or not okay to use. You do not fucking dictate anything.

If you want to change things, be an example. Post the way you want. If people like it, they'll latch on and follow suit.
Whining about how people aren't posting the way you like on an anonymous message board in a topic that's going to die in maybe two days (in a conversation that's going to be deleted in maybe ten minutes) is only going to make you look like a tumblrina.

And yeah, I'm intentionally using "meme buzzwords" just to trigger you. Are you going to latch on to them and dismiss the entire point because of it? Or are you going to be the bigger man and look past them at the point I'm making?

>>2406968
i think the important point is to keep X in X. like if you post on $WEBSITE or in $FORUM and have fun doing it then go ahead, but please don't post like you're on $WEBSITE or $FORUM here.

this works the other way round too, e.g. people trying to greentext on doomworld or in an IRC channel. it just makes you look like a clown so don't do it.

>>2406981
>You know how much everyone fucking hates backseat drivers? You do not dictate how the conversation fucking goes. You do not dictate what words are okay or not okay to use. You do not fucking dictate anything.

The amount of perfectly fine conversations killed because he got triggered, man...

>WAAAHH, DELETE THE REST OF THE CRAP, MODS
>WAAAHH FINISH THE JOB

Thanks for calling him out on that, thank you so much.

>>2406963
That was just me taking the piss.


>>2406968
>imfuckingplying I can control who posts where

Hell you could point out a nice gem in that shithole.

>>2406973
Shit happens bro. I don't think any less of you I'm just pissed.


>>2406981
You don't need to worry about me. I just want /vr/ to be a better place. I've been in these threads for years and braved DKG's shit posting and bortal doem drama and the increasing laziness of the mods. If you want me to stop being a cunt I'll stop.

>>2406985
This. Keep /v/ in /v/, it's that simple.

>>2406993
>I've been in these threads for years and braved DKG's shit posting and bortal doem drama and the increasing laziness of the mods.

And guess what, nobody cares.
And they never will.

You only have control over what YOU post in this website. You won't get a medal for backseat moderation. You're not even entitled to GOOD moderation.

You can start making this a better place by minding your own business
Or you can yiff in SJW hell for all I care

>>2407001
I guess you're right. Very sorry to cause any trouble.

On another note, I thought you were trying to use memes to piss me off and not unironically use them?

>>2407001
>You can start making this a better place by minding your own business
i don't think this is true at all, i think all nondysfunctional communities self-police and i think if you do something and a lot of people tell you it's not appropriate behaviour and ask you to stop, then you stop. this is normal, unless you are a sociopath.

>>2407029

Different anon.

>>2407056
Oh, oops. Could've let me know.

>>2406936

I can't find OCEAN on either /idgames or Youtube.

>>2407095
http://www.moddb.com/games/sergei-savenkos-ocean
http://oceanhub.wikia.com/

Here you go, anon.
It's pretty fucking bad.

>>2407105
>Her facial expression is always upbeat and smiley, which depending on the situation may endear or creep out. Her ears look like tiny pointy fins ('io-mimi'). 75DD breast size.
what the fuck

I'm a huge moron that cant figure out how to pickup armor or boots in RL Arsenal, being able to switch out modpacks would be nice.

>>2407113
What is this monstrosity.

>>2407105
>>2406936
>Basically EVERYTHING that is wrong with ZDoom modding and mapping

stolen resources?

last thing I knew half of his stuff was self-made.

>>2407115
when trying to drop armor it says I am not wearing any despite the fact that im am clearly wearing armor

>>2407105
yeah, that looks like a shovelware FPS from the mid 90s

but it's an ambitious one man project so i'm not going to give it too much guff.

>>2407126
is that Murdoc?

>>2407118

nobody?

>>2407113

>75DD breast size.

That's not how bra sizes work.

>>2407113
There you go.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ivk5T_UJpmc
Term plays OCEAN
I hope some day he would do stream of PRODOOMER.
PD is not THAT bad, but it's pretty damn bad, regardless of how much effort went into it, it's just a disjuncted mess of content(both mobs and textures) from various games and ridiculously boring key-fetch maps