/vr/ - Retro Games

Agreed. I'm a fan of the two character system and level design. I was pleasantly surprised by the title. Just wish it had a PC version.

>>2388487
>Just wish it had a PC version.
Apparently Night Dive Studios own the IP for the Turok games, and are going to publish Turok EX. I hope and dream that not only will Turok 3 get the EX treatment, but we'll be given proper SDK access so the game can be modded to have some of the ideas scrapped during development. Co-op, for example. And the cool scripted events that were cut for no apparent reason.

Night Dive Studios does not own the IP. They just licensed it from Classic Media, which is a subsidiary of DreamWorks.

>>2388487
>game ends with a cliffhanger
>next game is a prequel
>game after that is a remake

We're never gonna see evil Adon

unrelated but is her nip visible

>>2388780
>We're never gonna see evil Adon
You mean Yvree, the new Speaker chosen by the Council of Voices?

My guess is maybe Acclaim intended Adon to be the main character for Turok 4 with Yvree the antagonist.

>>2388516
I'd be happy with just proper mouse aiming alone

>>2389487
>I'd be happy with just proper mouse aiming alone
Turok 3 handles fairly well with emulator mouse aiming because unlike the other three N64 titles, look spring can actually be disabled.

>SP
1 = 2 > Evolution > 3 > shit > reboot

>MP
RW > Evolution > 3 all are good though

>>2390139
But Evolution is like watching paint dry. How can it be better than anything, much less the so-so reboot?

Obligatory Turok archive file.

https://mega.co.nz/#F!rkx3WbZC!elr6cn_6PQahPNJFzxutow

Now on a related note, and I hope the Turok fanboi still lurks /vr/, but does anyone know where I might find the Turok 3 tie-in comic online?

http://www.comicvine.com/turok-3-shadow-of-oblivion/4050-34146/

>>2390401
Unless of course the comic I'm looking for is included in the archive. I'm still downloading these files. But it only seems to be Turok 2 comics?

I can get this game for $9 and as a huge fan of the first two games would you guys say its worth it?

>>2390453
sure, exploration is still in there for the chronocepter pieces, the levels just got a lot more linear
enemy hitscan is completely fucked though, they are really aggressive and accurate even in lower difficulties

In the earliest prototype, from around May 2000, there is a police walker just sitting there after you exit the sewers. The two police officers in charge of it get killed -- they are replaced by two goofy looking civilian models in the later beta\final version. The walker is also removed in later builds. (There is also a patrolling police walker in this area that is removed in all later builds.)

Now what is very odd is that if you pick up the assault rifle laying on the ground nearby (which is removed in later builds) and walk up to the police walker, the Acclaim intro cutscene triggers - meaning that Acclaim had placed a broken event trigger on that walker.

I can't help but speculate that the police walkers were originally meant to be usable by the player. I would dearly love if someone would pull Turok 3 apart and get a look at its scripting. I'm sure there is all sorts of stuff buried in the betas.

>>2390453
>I can get this game for $9 and as a huge fan of the first two games would you guys say its worth it?
Look at it this way, anon. Turok 3 is a game the average FPS gamer can finish. The same can't be said for Turok "jumping puzzles" Dinosaur Hunter, and Turok "Lair of the Blind Ones" Seeds of Evil. As >>2390456 mentioned, it has some bad bugs and broken behavior - the worst of which is the fact any monster that throws acid at you will hit you EVERY SINGLE TIME NO MATTER HOW FAST YOU STRAFE. Plus the game itself is riddled with odd glitches.

But overall, it's a genuinely good, shamefully forgotten entry in the Turok series that is worth playing twice because each character gets unique paths through the maps.

When people describe Turok 3 as Half Life with Dinosaurs, they're not exaggerating.

Another thing worth noting is that Turok 3 has much more responsive controls than the other games. It also allows you to disable look spring and invert aiming, something that was very annoying in Turok 2.

There is something very bonkers about Turok 3's weapon coding.

>Turok 2 shotgun.
>Ejects shell casings.
>Shell casings are silent.

>Turok 3 shotgun.
>No shell casings are ejected.
>THE NON-EXISTENT SHELL CASINGS MAKE "SHOTGUN SHELL ROLL ON FLOOR NOISES".

How the hell does that happen? Same thing with the assault rifle - unique SOUND of shell casings hitting the ground, but no shell casings rendered. Somebody needs to dissect the game to see whether there's a bug preventing the shell casings from rendering.

On a similar note, in one of the later betas, bullet casings splash when they hit water, making a noise. This was removed from final build - possibly because all the beta versions tended to overload and spam error messages about running out of audio channels.

If Turok 3 ever gets remade\remastered, this music should be in every elevator, not just the first one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjnDTdsEmgA

>>2388487
no way I loved the massive levels of turok 1 and 2

>>2388487
is that CG promo art for real holy tits

>>2393020
It is, I have a poster of it that I got from the game box way back when.

>>2392945
>no way I loved the massive levels of turok 1 and 2
I'm pretty sure Turok 3's levels are way bigger in size.

Turok 3's "code monkey" was a man named Andy O’Neil.

Most people know him as the lead engineer on Metroid Prime, Metroid Prime 2, and the President of Bluepoint Games, the team behind God of War Collection, The Ico & Shadow of the Colossus Collection, Metal Gear Solid HD Collection, and the Xbox 360 port of Titanfall. Coincidentally, a few of Turok 3's audio designers also worked on the Xbox 360 port of Titanfall.

>>2390408
>>2390401
The comic is included along the rest of the T2 comics in a different folder in the same archive.

Same with The T:Evolution comic tie in.

>>2393020
There's more.

Gonna dump a few things Turok related, hope you enjoy.

>>2397721
2/?

>>2397724
3/?

>>2397726
4/?

>>2397728
5/?

>all these food captchas

Damn it google, I won't fall for your tricks.

>>2397731
6/?

>>2397734
7/?

>>2397735
8/?

>>2397738

>>2397741
10/10

>>2397745
Tal'Set best Turok.

An old ad/teaser for Turok 3

>>2397747
Well, he WAS the best chronologically.

>>2397748
THE CHILD IS THE KEY

>>2397752
Sorry, no keys here.

>>2397759

>>2397761

>>2397763
Best chapter coming through.

>>2397764
The early beta versions for Turok 3 had Lords of the Flesh fully modeled and textured in this chapter.

Too bad they don't do anything.

>>2397773
That's it for now.

Ask and you shall receive.

I rember getting nostalg-y a while back and watching a lets play of the turok 1's final level. it was 45 minutes long and you could assume the player knew exactly where he was going.

>45 minutes
>single level
>expert player

1st was the best imo. I just hope it doesn't get the Red Faction treatment and stay dead.

Enjoy a webm of an early build of Turok 2.

A special ad/teaser for the Turok 2 comics, webm with sound is below.

http://a.pomf.se/ysoqub.webm

>>2397769
The last chapter was barely functional mere months before release. I would love to talk with members of the Turok 3 team to find out what exactly went on during the final stretch of development.

The big problem with Turok 3 is how the levels feel awkwardly strung together. You reach the Lost Land from the Junkyard by... falling down a hole.

Wait... how does that work? The building you were in doesn't even align with that area of the Lost Land.

Also, I remember in the betas, the first level displays an error about a missing cutscene right at the start. Which kinda makes sense since the game fails to explain how you reached the top of that building. It's almost as if they just silenced the error message and said, "FUCK IT! NOBODY WILL NOTICE THIS GAPING PLOT HOLE BECAUSE THEY'LL BE DISTRACTED BY THE FACT THE ELEVATOR DOORWAY BLEEDS IF YOU STAB IT!"

>>2399592
Well, this is the best we can get.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xW8uPx_JG5M

I'm more interested in the earliest builds for Turok 3, because they wanted to implement the plasma rifle and the pulse rifle, really curious how those worked.

>>2390487
Thanks for the in depth response anon. I bought the game a few days ago and should be receiving it shortly. I can't wait to play it!

>>2400412
Be aware that the first level is really glitchy, sometimes the cops will shoot you when you're not even close to them (these guys are meant to prevent you from going off the predetermined path), acid enemies will OHK at times, you might fall to your death because the next section failed to load and there's a section where zombies just constantly respawn.

>>2388516

I thought Turok EX was just another side project by that guy who did Doom 64 EX.

Except the frame rate or controls, I might agree. Seeds of evil was better

>>2400560
I did some googling and found nothing.

Perhaps someone can chime in and explain.

I also was under the impression the guy who did DOOMEX was working on TurokEX.

>>2400560
>I thought Turok EX was just another side project by that guy who did Doom 64 EX.
The guy who made Doom 64 EX is teaming up with Night Dive to publish Turok EX. For money, presumably. They've apparently licensed the Turok IP from current owner, Dreamworks.

May sherries

It's not as bad as a lot of whiners make it out to be, but Seeds of Evil is still by far the better game.

OBLIVION IS AT HAND

>>2404063
>It's not as bad as a lot of whiners make it out to be, but Seeds of Evil is still by far the better game.
Seeds of Evil has better gunplay. Seeds of Evil has better non-dinosaur enemies. (Reminder that Turok 3 has dinosaurs and they're just as good as Turok 2's, largely because they seem to be cut-pasted from Turok 2.) Shadow of Oblivion has better level design. Words can't quite encapsulate just how awful Turok 2's level design is.

>WOO! ANOTHER CORRIDOR WHICH LOOKS EXACTLY LIKE THE LAST CORRIDOR! AND THE ONE BEFORE THAT! AND THE ONE BEFORE THE ONE BEFORE THAT ONE! MAN, IT'S SO FUN WALKING AROUND THESE FOGGY CORRIDORS! LOOKING FOR KEYS AND SHIT FOR NO REAL PLOT-JUSTIFIED REASON!

Turok 2's salvation comes from the interplay of punchy weapons and genuinely interesting enemies. Shotgunning an enemy and watching them flop to the ground spraying blood is an integral part of the experience. (Something Turok 3 ruined with its instantly fading enemies.)

Also, Turok 2's N64 controls are sloppy and springy. Turok 3 was a huge improvement in that regard.

>>2404179
>THE SONS OF STONE WILL FAIL. THE CHILD WILL DIE. CHAOS WILL COMMENCE.
>Who are you?
>WE ARE THE SONS AND DAUGHTERS OF DARKNESS. WE ARE THE CHILDREN OF OBLIVION.
>You're helping it?
>WE ARE PART OF IT. WE WERE ANCIENT BEFORE THE BIRTH OF YOUR INSIGNIFICANT UNIVERSE. ONCE, THE DARKNESS THAT IS OBLIVION DESTROYED ALL THAT STOOD BEFORE IT. WE DEVOURED ENTIRE WORLDS, FED UPON THE SUFFERING, REVELLED IN THE GLORY OF OUR OMNIPOTENCE. THE BIRTH OF THIS UNIVERSE NEARLY DESTROYED US. NOW THE TIME OF OUR RETURN HAS COME! OBLIVION IS AT HAND!
>The hell it is! You were nearly destroyed once - we can stop you!
>WE SHALL SEE...

>>2404298
>SONS AND DAUGHTERS

It's fathers, or at least that's how I remember it.

>>2404286
>foggy corridors
>same corridors

Only two levels can be considered same corridors, and I don't remember any foggy corridors.

Rank the N64 Turoks

>>2404536
They're all good.

Fuck the reboot though