/vr/ - Retro Games

>>2397361
Was it?

I mean X-Treme was the project forever. Then Jam's 3D parts had apparently some elements of Adventure. Was this ever actually planned for Saturn?

That aside, I like the screenshots on that art.

>>2397361
that'd xplain the shitty ass graphics

>3D Sonic
kill it with fire

>>2397404
Yeah but it's adventure

>>2397404
I'll bring the gasoline, you bring the matches.

>>2397361
I seriously don't think this is real.

I remember during Sonic Adventure there were scenes where they deliberately reduced Sonic's polygon count, maybe due to performance or something. I remember it specifically happening during the aerial combat stuff.

Screenshots 1 and 3 probably had same thing going on, but happened so fast I didn't notice.

Screen 4 is so vague it's hard to tell.

I don't know why you would intentionally want a game on weaker hardware given the choice.

>>2397365

Sonic World in Sonic Jam was supposed to be a sort of demo of what a Saturn Sonic would have been like, but since Naka had to choose whether to make another Sonic game or a new IP (NiGHTS), he went for the later.
And yes, I believe he called Sonic World a sort of proto-Adventure, but in reality they're nothing alike.

I actually think a full game using Sonic World's controls would have been great and better than Sonic Adventure, it feels more like a proper 3D Sonic instead of a rollercoaster kind of game

>>2397516
Honestly I love the 32-bit era Sonic model because of how rough it looks, but that's just me. His smoother modern (DC and beyond) look just isn't as cool.

Wonder what kind of music it would've had. Definitely not the rolling around in the speed of sound kind.

It would've been bad. It's been said that some of the stuff they wanted to do just wasn't possible, or harder to do so on the Saturn compared to the Dreamcast

>>2397432
the draw distance of the slope in picture three is way too far for the saturn and when they started developing sonic adventure the dreamcast was already in development.
if anything, sonic adventure was going to be a bit more like an rpg (it appeared listed as sonic rpg in some magazine or list i think) but that may have popped up when they were designing the hub worlds for the game.

>>2397408
that was the end of the end. everything after it was the raping of sonic's corpse after digging him up.

>>2397537
This, i always liked low poly sonic.

I loved that SADX hack that turned characters into their saturn designs

>>2397520
Some additions like curling momentum would have made Sonic World, and a potential 3D Sonic based on it, even more fun.

>>2397582
Tomoko Sasaki could have led the soundtrack instead of Senoue, maybe? Her work on Ristar and NiGHTs was and is just the best.

>>2398092
>Tomoko Sasaki
If she ever got to direct a Sonic OST, it would be pretty good

Even Shiratsu and Nanba (Chaotix music team) have had more shots at Sonic games, but to my knowledge she hasn't touched one aside from doing the Chao voice

An interesting note is that Naka was interested in making Sonic 3 a full 3D game on the Genesis using the SVP chip used in Virtua Racing. But that never went any farther than the idea.

>>2397404
I didn't like Sonic Adventure but I loved Sonic World. It wasn't about going fadst and had great controls and environment. What a shame that Sonic has to be about fadst, it's just a clusterfuck in 3D.

>>2398092
>curling momentum
Please no

>>2398329
>14 fps 3D Sonic
I won't lie, I'd love looking at it just for the sheer oddity, but that shit wouldn't be any fun to play

>>2398329
>Sonic on the SVP chip
>But that never went any farther than the idea.
I see Naka partakes in fine smokables.

I'm glad it didn't, honestly. Xtreme looked like ass from what we have and the only other sonic gmaes are a godawful racing game and a port of a godawful genesis game. and sonic jam I guess but that's just a bunch of roms with a okay-ish minigame.

>>2398590
No roms, they're ports.

>>2397520
is this playable somehow thru emulation?
i love how it looks, even if it's a demo, if it runs at 15 fps, tell me it can be played

>>2397404
Have fun with a mind stuck in the past!

>>2398927
Name one good 3D Sonic game.

And no, the Adventure games are not good.

>>2397361
Photoshop and resize the image only to think is real. Cri... Cri... Cri...

>>2399028
Sonic Robo Blast.

>>2399028
Yes they are, you fucking douche. If you don't like them/don't like the direction that the series is going in, STOP PLAYING THEM and leave the fandom.

>>2399130
of course they are not good games. whatcha gonna do? are you gonna kill me with your naruto kid mind powers? there are no good 3d sonic games. the concept was never translated successfully from 2d.

>>2398092
mostly anyone could have done a better job than senoue did. he singlehandedly destroyed sonic music-wise.

>>2399169
I personally disagree, I think Senoue was and still is doing decent as a musical director for Sonic. What's your reasoning? Do you not like the style?

>>2398927
we're on /vr/

>>2399164
based anon

>>2398927
Where do you think we are?

>>2398921
It's Sonic Jam for Saturn. I imagine it's playable on a Saturn emulator.

>pic related...

>>2399416
This phrase is thrown around a lot here lately but it applies here: go back to /v/.

>>2399310
>>2399164
Nice Taunt, not! If you hate the 3d sonic games so much, fine then. Like I said, you could always leave the sonic fandom and distance yourself from sonic altogether if you are so mad.

>Naruto kid mind powers
Oh Sod OFF! I don't even like naruto like I did back in my middle school. Early High school years.

>>2399431
Every sonic gamer ever...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQhjJ0BLxT0

>>2399435
Naruto...
>pic related...

>>2399164
^this...

>>2399446
Ah, I see that the Stick-in-the-mud asshole fans tat BITCH AND COMPLAIN about how "HURRR DURRR SONIC SHOULD ONLY BE IN 2D! ARRRRRRRGHH!"

>>2399459
He's right tho.

>>2399436
Fuck off back to /v/ underage.

>>2399459
No... Just not an autist...

>>2399462
I was born in 83... sega is for the blacks and the poorfags...

>>2399465
Kek...
> mfw never had a white friend with a sega growing up.

is /vr/ dying?

>>2399468
>>2399465
>Citation needed.
Also, hello /b/.

>>2399462
No, its an opinion, you damn pompous ass.

>>2399130
"fandom"?...you fucking faggot

>>2399474
>>2399468
>>2399465
>>2399463
>>2399459
>>2399436
>>2399435
>>2399416

I can't tell which of these two is a bigger faggot.

>>2397361
It's a shame there wasn't a major Sonic for Saturn. Sonic World and R looked pretty good.

>>2399484
What if we're the same person? Would the faggotry be too immense to imagine?
>we're the same person...

>>2399493
We are not!!!! The same person.

>>2399496
Oh yes we are...

By looking at those images, I can already see the choppy 20fps frame rate, the back grounds flashing and screwing up due to the saturn's limitations. I can hear the jumbled compressed sound effects and music. And all of that makes me want to play it more...

>>2399523
So you're a masochist?

>>2399130
>fandom

>>2399435
you are the worst part of the sonic fanbase. i bet you have an account at sonicretro with your anime waifu as your avatar.

Fuck. This looks like a /v/ thread.

>>2399650
Sonic autist detected. Begin purge procedures.

>>2399465
>mfw now that I think about it all my poor friends(myself included) had a Genesis and all my friends I considered well off owned a SNES.....

>>2399654

I actually haven't played any Sonic game post-&Knuckles.
The whole autism level is pure 6th genner stuff with Adventure games.

But this thread really smells like /v/ teenagers.

idk I can see sa1 on saturn pretty easily. imagine only sonic being playable and remove like half the auto-movement sections along with most of the the more complicated camera work.

basically sonic world's engine tossed into linear and longer sonic r levels and throw in spindash.

>>2399679
There's been a lot more of this shit recently unfortunately. /vr/'s best days are behind it.

>>2399436
I wanna slit that kid's throat.

>>2399481
>>2399496
>>2399539
Piss off you fuckface shitbag.
>>2399583
NOPE! I do not. have anything of the sort. I do go to Atariage, tho.

>>2399710
No way you're over 11. Please go away.

>>2399710
Pish where you limey?

>>2399719
>>2399714
Try harder.

>>2399727
so you are a limey...

>>2399741
NOPE! I am not British. Also,

>Northern Africa
>AIDS

>>2397361
If only Sonic Extreme were completed...

>>2401204
It looked like shit. It probably would have sold a few Saturns tho, which is good.

>>2398590
X-Treme, in actuality, never had any completed levels, or at least what would be considered an "act". All the material that exists (even from the leaked level pack) resembles nothing more than a tech demo. Besides, when Senn&Ofer's project was dropped for good the reworked game (called "Project Condor"), had "Sonic X-Treme" been finished, would've been what was officially released, not what is popularly known as Sonic X-Treme.

>>2401724
Also, one of POV's version of the engine was recently fixed up and now runs on a real Saturn. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIhckKWN5ZU&t=2m1s
Pretty neat stuff. As it stands though, the game was never anything more than a barely realized concept.

>>2401724
>dat gif
da fuck?

Sonic was always shit.

>>2397520
While Sonic World always had me hoping for more, and I teeter on agreeing with you about this over adventure; Sonic World is too much like Sonic in Christmas NiGHTS. A bit floaty, and no real speed mechanic.

This actually plays a lot closer to Mario64 than either Adventure, 3D Blast, or classic Sonic.

And the sad fact is, Sonic really needs rails in 3D to have both 'fast' and platforming. Is it a limitation of world design? Possibly.

But I don't think it'd have mattered what Yuji Naka made. He was clearly tired of Sonic. Threw a shitfit when X-Treme was using his engine. And NiGHTS is as on rails as you can fucking get. It's a 2D Rail game in 3D.

>>2399439
>this webm


I... I love you.

>>2402430

I actually think they got the speed right on Sonic World. it feels fast, but not uncontrolable. Just like the 16 bit Sonics. It just didn't have any FAST section but I think it could have worked, but yeah, I like that it plays more like Mario 64 than Adventure.
I agree about the floaty jump though, then again Sonic's jump was always a bit floaty. Sonic World's jump needed to be tweated a little bit more and as >>2398092 a curling momentum/spindash could have improved it a lot.
But anyway it's just a tech demo more than anything. It was promising, but alas.

Sonic adventure is a buggy mess of a terrible game. I'm glad other people agree

>>2402492
What version did you play? If you hate it, fine. But STOP projecting your opinion as fact! Just because some people agree with your views doesn't make it a fact.

>>2402606
#rekt

>>2402492
Fag

You know /vr/'s gone to shit when people actually defend a 3D Sonic game.

>>2399465
Any kid I knew who had a Master System lived in a filthy home full of smoke, animal hair, and despair.

>>2403014
Adventure fans were naturally going to move in after Dreamcast discussion was allowed.
I'm glad there's a home for the system now but it opened a giant can of worms.

>>2402606
Anon stop crying about it. Bring an actual argument in the games defense, stay silent, greentext a quote from his post but with stuttering and a smug reaction image, whatever the fuck you want.
But don't post in caps going "LEAVE THIS GAME ALONE."

And the game being riddled with bugs isn't an opinion. The game has its fair share of glitches regardless of your feelings on the gameplay.

I recently replayed Adventure and Sonic's gameplay was the second least enjoyable of every character, right behind Big. He was just too fast and too slippery and the level design didn't help. Every other character played much better.

>>2402295
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdEqYplS6v8

>>2403014
Fuck you, Sonic R owns.

Adventure a shit though

>>2403050
>me
>crying

Please do try harder, shitbag who is stuck in the 2d gaming world.
>>2403050 Which one did you play? I seriously doubt that all versions are equally glitchy. Every game has at least a small set of glitches, and its not something that can't, especially nowadays, especially with patch programs. Also, if you hate Dreamcaswt counting as /vr/, then at least email this site via the contact page.

Sonic Adventure confirmed for best game ever

>>2403140
A game with Big the Cat in it can't be best ever.

>>2403157
Big by himself isn't a bad character, the fishing just sucked.

>>2403132
>Please do try harder, shitbag who is stuck in the 2d gaming world.
I actually think Generations is pretty good and that the Lost World gameplay style has potential if Sega decides to not be fucking idiotic and try to reinvent the wheel again next game.
I liked the Adventure games when I was ten years old like everyone else but replaying them now they're not very good at all.

>>2403162
Oh yeah, because a cat that represnts an overweight man-child with down syndrome sounds sooo appealing... How about you stop being such a weeboo sonic fuccboii.

I remember when I first saw a commercial for Adventure, there was the part with the tunnel in Speed Highway, and I mistook it for Hydrocity Zone, and I thought they were making a Sonic 1-3 3D remake.