/vr/ - Retro Games

If you're not getting it on a group buy its probably not worth it. Though the extra features are nice a Super Everdrive will play all the games you listed just as well. But if you do decide to go through with it I can say that I've had 0 issues with mine.

I have a everidrive 64 v3. Plan to get a SNES one soon.

It's not emulation. They're very easy to use.

Buy straight from krikzz.

I kinda don't get the draw of the flash carts for the SNES and older systems. The emulators for them are perfect or damn near it depending on the system you're talking about, so I don't know why you don't just go that way. The Everdrive 64 I get though, since N64 emulation is a mess.

Why do people buy from Stone Age Gamer?
They charge way more money just to include stickers and a bunch of other useless crap.

>>2395624
Why settle for almost perfect when you can get the real deal? Plus depending on the setup getting a good picture to CRT can be annoying.

>>2395631
Some people are terrified of international shipping for whatever odd reason.

>>2395631
Advertising. They gave a bunch of review units to popular retro YouTube personalities and that pretty much put the word out.

>>2395607
My wife and I had an sd2snes - very disappointing. The saves aren't reliable, the actual build of the cartridge seems weak and wobbles about when inserted into the snes, and it just generally reeks of poor workmanship.

The RetroN V however is original hardware and will also give you several other consoles, for free. So you can sell your tired old hardware, upgrade to a sleek new machine and hold your head up high again, kiddo. Did I mention the hd capabilities?

>>2395607

Get a Retron 5. The wives love them.

>>2395632
>Why settle for almost perfect
NES and SNES emulation are perfect
>when you can get the real deal
A flash cart is no more the real deal than an emulator, and also has no guarantee of being perfect.
>Plus depending on the setup getting a good picture to CRT can be annoying.
Annoying maybe, but cheaper and/or more versatile than a single quality flashcart.

Meh, I don't see much point in these. I softmodded my Wii and use that to emulate SNES and other old games if I feel the urge to play them on a TV. The emulation is flawless for SNES on the Wii. Don't waste your money on these, just mod a Wii or Xbox or something and emulate them on your TV.

>>2395624
>>2395652
>NES and SNES emulation are perfect
No emulation is perfect.

Lag is a big issue.

>>2395660
>Lag is a big issue.
Do you have any empirical data to show that there's any significant lag?

>>2395661
Comes with using windows.

>>2395662
That's what Linux in DRM/KMS mode is for.

>>2395660
I haven't experienced emulation lag in 10+ years, especially for SNES and NES emulation, including memory intensive games like Star Ocean and Seiken Densetsu 3.

>>2395664
I learned a long time ago to ignore any comment about lag and just stick to facts.
>>2395663
Good luck with that.

>>2395668
>Good luck with that.
Why would I need luck? It's great.

>>2395671
Not sure if an emulator has that. With the lag numbers I've seen I'd doubt it or it doesn't matter.

>>2395678
>Not sure if an emulator has that. With the lag numbers I've seen I'd doubt it or it doesn't matter.
What the fuck are you even talking about? DRM/KMS is a feature of the Linux kernel, not any emulator.

>>2395684
Like I said good fucking luck. I thought you were talking about something different.
I have no idea what kind of lag a VM causes on top of that.

>>2395689
>I have no idea what kind of lag a VM causes on top of that.
Who said anything about virtual machines? Are you high? If so, can I have some of what you're on?

>>2395695
You want me to run Linux not in a vm?

>>2395697
Yes.

>>2395636
Over the years I've had a lot of stuff shipped from chongland never make it, way more than domestically. I can understand the fears. Now I really only chance it for something that's really great.

Like flashcarts.

>>2395702
No thanks.

>>2395659
I have missed my wii but the input lag is noticeable on games like Mario 3 where I am used to speed running it. The same goes for super metroid.

>>2395617
>>2395631
What is the best website to buy from for North America? (Canada to be specific). Again, money is not an issue I just want something reliable and well made.

>>2395709
Your loss.

>>2395716
Hahaha
>>2395713
The guy is in the Ukraine.
Not sure if there's any place in Canada that has them. If you're afraid of international shipping Places in America like Stoneage gamer ham em. But they're much more expensive.

http://shop.krikzz.com/

>>2395718
Man, I'm not that guy lookign for one but yeah I can see why people would be afraid, I'd rather buy from africa than eastern europe

>>2395725
Meh I haven't had a problem. Bought a few things from the Ukraine and Poland. The guy making the Rhea/GDEmu is from poland.

>>2395684
No lag on a RetroN V and the kernel is great

>>2395718
>http://shop.krikzz.com/

It's still 199$ and will take a lot longer to get here.

So after all the reliable info posted here I think buying from StoneAgeGamer is the best way to go and I'll place my order.

>>2395730
Well you're going to be paying at least $50-$100+ more for it.
I can understand the concern. I wanted to support the guy actually making them so. I live in America too btw. Only took a week to get here.But some people have it get caught up in customs and then you're looking at a month.

>>2395736
Krikzz is still selling them to StoneAgeGamer though right? It's not like they are just copying his format and selling it without him getting a cut from the sales?

I'm not sure if I should spend the extra 20 dollars to get the shell included because that's expensive for some plastic but I don't have any carts to use as a donor shell at the moment.

>>2395746
Including a shell and shipping it is cheaper from Krikzz.

StoneAgeGamer is $225.09
EverDrive Store is $204.00

And it's the same shipping time, so I will be going with the cheaper solution. The European/Jap cart also looks a lot nicer.

>>2395652
emufag go home

>>2395763
reseller shill commit sudoku

>>2395607
>Emulation Carts
is this bait ?
>>2395652
>>2395660
>NES and SNES emulation are perfect
>higan is definitely the most accurate emulator by orders of magnitude, but you have to understand that this is not something to praise higan for:
>it's a testament to how terribly awful everything else is.
>We still have a very, very long way to go in SNES emulation.
-byuu , author of the most acurrate SNES emulator.

>>2395652
>A flash cart is no more the real deal than an emulator
>A flash cart is no more the real deal than an emulator
>A flash cart is no more the real deal than an emulator
>A flash cart is no more the real deal than an emulator

I refuse to belive that people with this level of stupidity exist in this world

>>2395841
The only "real deal" is the original console and the original game cart. Anything else is an imitation, especially when you're talking about systems that have special chips that have to be EMULATED in the flash cart.

>>2395854
>The only "real deal" is the original console and the original game cart.
If I install my game in the HDD instead of loading it from the DVD is not the same experience?
You have a point with the special chips , but
an special chip IMPLEMENTED on a FPGA ( not emulated) + original hardware is miles better than an emulator.

>>2395868
>HDD
>DVD
I'm sorry, I thought we were in /vr/, not /v/
>special chip IMPLEMENTED on a FPGA ( not emulated
It's emulation with hardware, not software. The term emulation has existed for a long time before computers were even invented, so the way you commonly see the word used is not the only way it can be used.
>better than an emulator.
Do you have empirical data you can show me to prove this?

>>2395885
>>2395841
Virtualization=/= emulation.

>>2395887
Nothing is being virtualized though, we're not talking about flashcarts running on the fucking cloud.

>>2395889
>2015
>Not running your flashcart on the fucking cloud
Go to bed, grandpa.

>>2395889
What does the cloud have to do with virtualization?
All visualization does is allow software to work.
Emulation creates an environment. Basically another system that's a slave to an existing one.

>>2395660
Some emulators are close enough to perfect for me to not bother buying a flash cart for those system, like the nes\snes\genesis.

Id love a Everdrive 64 though since emulation for that is shit.

>>2395897
I'm not anti emulation. I just don't think it'll ever be close to being perfect.
From what I've just about everything but Saturn and N64 is emulated pretty well. Retro console anyway.

>>2395894
>What does the cloud have to do with virtualization?
Broadly speaking, "the cloud" is a collection of servers that run in virtual machines.
>All visualization [sic] does is allow software to work.
Uh, no. WINE isn't virtualization just because it lets you use windows software in a UNIX-like environment.
"Emulators" = implementing hardware with software
flashcarts/clones = implementing hardware with hardware

>>2395906
I stick with Computer World's defination.

Emulation is what we do when we try to make one system behave like or imitate a different system. We want to take System A (something we already have) and give it the inputs we would normally use for System B (which we may not have) and have System A produce the same results as System B.

Virtualization is a technique for using computing resources and devices in a completely functional manner regardless of their physical layout or location. This includes splitting a single physical computer into multiple "virtual" servers, making it appear as though each virtual machine is running on its own dedicated hardware and allowing each to be rebooted independently.


By that Flashcarts aren't emulation. They're virtualization.

>>2395910
>Emulation is what we do when we try to make one system behave like or imitate a different system. We want to take System A (something we already have) and give it the inputs we would normally use for System B (which we may not have) and have System A produce the same results as System B.
This sounds like flashcarts to me, since the SD card has to be presented as a ROM chip on some level.

>>2395917
The flashcart is a virtual cartridge though. Far as the console is concerned you're just putting in a normal game.

>>2395652
byuu himself says that SNES emulation is far from perfect, and he's the autist that writes the most accurate SNES emulator in existence

NES emulation is also slightly suspect, but acceptable for the vast majority

that said, neither of these would qualify as "perfect"

>>2395727
i've bought multiple flash carts from krikkz (Ukraine) and Chinese resellers and _never_ had a problem

Buy straight from Krikzz, fuck SAG

>>2395648
>>2395651
Every time

>>2396018
OP here, I didn't realize it was a troll until halfway through. I was worried that if I bought this thing I would be losing save files or it would be cheaply made. I've already made my purchase and it will be here in a week.

If you guys and gals wanna keep talking about flash carts then keep talking but if it just turns into trolls I'll delete the thread.

>-Does anybody here have one?
Yo i've got an SD2SNES, i'm in europe. I bought it off of a dutch guy on eBay for a little less that usual price (140euro/155usd). I use it to play games on my Super Famicom.


>-Where is the best place to buy it?
If you google there's some websites that sell it, although I got mine on ebay


>-How easy/reliable is it to use?
Pretty fuckin' easy, just copy your roms to a memory card that should come with the cart and the card fits into the top of the cartridge.


>-Please tell me every possible problem you have had with it so I'm not disappointed.
SOMETIMES i have some strange issues with video output not working on certain games (only had it happen on earthbound and FF6), to fix this i just had to load up a random game and then reset my snes and play the game i wanted to. I don't know if this is a problem with my snes or SD2SNES though.

>>2395651
get the fuck out of here with that cheaply made shit.
>>2395660
Amen brother.

>>2395607
>SNES Emulation Carts

>>2395885
No, this is clearly /v/. You can tell because there's kids who think HDDs and DVDs didn't exist before 1999.

Emulation is better than real hardware, when you get down to it.