/vr/ - Retro Games

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Not /vr/.

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So after intercepting the RGB and Sync signal with my powered Joytech splitter the screen looks perfect with every console. I have nfi what the joytech splitter did to the signal. I'm going to get better rca cables and see if the picture is ok w/o the splitter.

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>>2390328
That looks fantastic.

Happy Sonic looked out of place though. Shows how much attention I've paid when playing Sonic 1.

>>2390327
i had a similar dark streaky effect years ago when i hooked up a megadrive to amiga monitor.
putting some resistance on the sync wire fixed it

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>>2390328
When are you emulatorfags gonna learn that black lines on a monitor look nothing like a real CRT disp-

Oh wait.

So hey guys, I'm "new" to this (the threads, anyway), if I'm a competitive gamer, what's the highest tech CRT out there? I want the crazy high refresh rate and low latency, but I'd like decent color depth and 1080 or better. Is this feasible?

>>2390615
You talking about PC CRT monitors, or video monitors? Either way, look towards Sony gear. For PC Monitors, look at the Sony GDM series, Video, PVM or BVM.

>>2390616
PC CRT, I believe, and noted. I'll do some googling/research, thanks.

>>2390615
Check out the Eizo F9xx series.

>>2390630 pic related

Hello,
I have a Sony kd-36fs130. No matter what console I hook up (composite and component), there is visible discoloration on the right side of the image.

I can hide it through the use of sizing options via the service menu, but I lose a bit of the screen.

Any other fixes/suggestions? I'm not sure what is causing the issue.

>>2390615
Is it for modern games?

>>2390805

Does it degauss every time you turn it on? If no, tried to degauss it (if you don't have a coil, then you can try to put a CRT PC monitor in front of it and turn it on, that might do the trick)

>>2390805
rgb convergence problem
might be tweakable in service mode?

update on 240p downscaling !

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unfortunately this technique only works on 120hz displays (like my PC monitor) and it has a similar drawback to the technique used with GPU/VGA (frame doubling)

so it's probably useless for most people.

however, I was able to get a much older scaler working on my 20L5 at 240p

dump incoming

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I got a free Panasonic broadcast monitor (14 inch BT-H1390yn) today (also a free 20 inch Sony PVM-20L5, but I haven't lugged it into the house to test yet). Here's a couple hasty pics, from my NES and in light so you can see the display itself. It seems rather nice.

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Dragon Warrior

>>2392584
awesome find dude!

adjusting the focus of your camera can give us better close ups

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>>2392589
While I think these don't really show just how good it is, I'll try to get better tomorrow with chrono trigger when I'm not so tired.

>>2392598
yep, it can... but I took these in a hurry.
I'll get better pics soon :\

>>2392604
that looks really nice.

hive five bro!

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>>2392589
I should mention all of these are a composite NES, not RGB... :P
(posting a pic of the PVM-20L5)

>>2392608
Hell yeah, that's a multi format monitor.

it can do 240p/480i 480p 720p and 1080i

rock on!

>>2392607
*high fives*
Still have a love for my Apple composite monitor that I can't quite shake... I'm sure the PVM and this will be better for SNES, though.

>>2392615
:D

Thanks, I think I will. (tomorrow/when it's light out, though... it's past midnight here)

>>2392584
How the hell did you manage to get those for free? Especially the 20L5.

>>2392628
Local PBS station was upgrading to HD equipment at last, I had been a good volunteer for them in the past and knew the people kind of well, fired off an e-mail to the station engineer and asked about the monitors they were replacing, and was given them :)

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Modern and retro games, so yes, but not exclusively.

>>2391164
this. it is definitely convergence.

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Jesus, I never thought I'd see Mega Man 9 not look like complete shit. Is this done through What scaler is this exactly? I can sort of gather iScan VP50 in the last thread but I just want to be sure.

>>2392652
iScan HD+

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don't just run out and buy one yet though, I still need to do more testing to make sure this is stable. ( these things aren't technically supposed to be able to do this)

other scalars and units might be capable of this, but I have to figure out the correct mod lines.

>>2392665
mode lines?

If they work like X11 mode lines, try 'cvt'.

If you don't know what I'm talking about, I'll head back to /g/ now.

>>2392671
I have to edit these values

H – shift 56
H – size 720
H – front 15
H – sync 62
H – back 56
H – Total 853

V – shift 10
V – size 240
V – front 10
V – sync 6
V – back 20
V – Total 276


doing it by hand is kind of hard

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hooked up a VGA to component video transcoder so I can hook up the Dreamcast VGA box.

the results are pretty good.

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What's the method? I have a Sony FW900 and would love to emulate in true 240p.

>>2392996
the Sony FW900 can probably only do 240p @120hz

you'll need to use black frame insertion to avoid frame doubling ( looks like motion blur on on LCD)

for anything that you can't use black frame insertion on, you'll need to use a scanline shader or SLG, ( the best SLG ever made is built into the XRGB3 as it produces true black scanlines).

try to find a link for you so you can set your video card up appropriately... hold on ( if I don't come back I probably fell asleep)

>>2392996
>Sony FW900

that one of the best PC monitors ever made!

your super lucky!

take some pictures for us!

I just got this little 8" Panasonic broadcast monitor for free, but I have no idea what kind of input it takes. Any help? I have some BNC to RCA adapters.

Can't rotate the image on my phone, so I apologise in advance.

>>2393042
Composite w/ Mono audio

>>2393046
Neat. You get so lost in the world of RGB and component sometimes that you forget composite exists.

Thanks again, Kya.

Do you guys use something to play modern games that use sprites but are scaled up jarringly, in their native resolution or apply some kind of CRT filter. I'm talking about those lelsoretro indie games.

>>2393161
theres a program called sweetfx if you want, it might apply crt filters to indie games that are compatible

>>2393167
I couldn't get it to look like not shit.

Free Sony KV 36FV15 near me. 36" behemoth of a trinitron. Should I?

Is there something wrong with my TV? This doesn't look right

>>2393042
composite via BNC for video. Get a BNC to RCA adapter like this:
http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=104&p_id=4121
Or, if you still have radio$hack in your area, you can get one from them for a high price, too.

>>2393232
Sure, if you can check it before picking it up to test for distortion/magnetized grille/dim phosphors/other potential failures.

>>2393293
Yeah I asked about it, and regardless I'll probably test it anyways to make sure.

>>2393313
That said, I'd go for a PVM... only saying that because my 20L5 was free though.

You'll like that one, regardless, though. that's a pretty fucking huge CRT.

>>2393351
Yeah I was just cruising craigslist and saw it for free, and thought I'd ask. Was burning some Saturn games after finally making some room for my old TV and... man, it's a super shit TV. Wanted something nice, saw that, figured I'd ask. PVM would be nice though.

>>2393362
yours would be good.

Also, even though it's composite only, the Apple IIe composite monitor works great for me (see >>2392616 ). They are expensive if found on ebay, but maybe you can get lucky. In any case, other old 80's computer monitors (commodore/amiga, atari, apple, etc) are often good small TV's.

>>2393362
If you feel lucky and know how to (safely) open a CRT monitor, you might want to get this and replace the power switch... I'm guessing one like the NES power switch would suffice.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Commodore-1802D-Monitor-/181604942013?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_2&hash=item2a487f80bd

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>>2393397
scratch that, this looks better.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/commodore-1702-monitor/111662605848

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Well, I mean, the reason i asked is because it's free. I do not really have much in the way of money right now (that isn't going to Splatoon, anyways). Otherwise, yes, I would go for something a little nicer.

Found this CRT at my local salvation army, Insignia NS-13CTV. Currious about the video wuality because I've heard crts with built in vcr/dvd players usually suck.

Has component (no 480p) but oddly no s-video. Guess it would be good for Wii emulation.

>>2392996

240p at 120Hz with black frame insertion
or
480p at 60Hz with every other line blacked out

Both will look close to the same, though 240p 120Hz will look brighter without black frame insertion at the expense of motion quality.

It's recommended to use a superwide horizonal resolution modeline for emulation, and set the emulator to scale to fit that to avoid issues with varying horizontal resolutions in games.

ex
3840x240 @ 120Hz
3840x480 @ 60Hz

see
http://emulation.gametechwiki.com/index.php/Display_FAQ#240p.2F480i_Emulation

>>2393452
What actually uses bfi? And what's the lag added?

>>2393450
Shit that pic was upside down, here's the back thats hopefully right side up.

>>2393450
>video wuality
Pretty much this. You will get wuality at its finest.
And with only Composite and Component you don't have much to hook it up, except you already have a scaler/converter.

Recently got a small Panasonic TV and noticed it had some issues.
You can barely see even the first layer in the picture but basically there are between 2 and 4 copies of the picture on the screen inside of the screen fully visible. They also seem to scale as one would expect inside of the CRT.
Is there a fix for this or is the tube just fucked?

>>2393457

A few things like RetroArch and MAME have BFI. It shouldn't add any latency if the black frame is shown second, though that increases the needed CPU requirements to maintain fullspeed since it has half the time to push a frame. Otherwise, it will make the latency like it is at 60Hz.

>>2393483
Any kind of software picture editing adds lag.

Software interpolation like g sync has anywhere from 2ms-10ms of lag. Sometimes more sometimes none.

>>2393490
>Any kind of software picture editing adds lag.

Only if it adds buffering. Black frame insertion does not buffer, it just blacks out half the frames. Shaders don't add any latency either because no extra buffering occurs.

>>2393492
That's if the game is running at a perfect 60 fps. And still it would probably have some lag.

Not enough to effect gameplay but you're not going to use a gun with it.


I don't know of any examples off the top of my head but not all retro games will run that great if you double the fps.

>>2393501
The swap interval is doubled when using BFI so the game runs as if it were 60Hz. Anything using Vsync is going to have slight latency, but that can be mostly mitigated by polling inputs closer to when a swap occurs. Light guns that rely on a 60Hz raster scan may not work, may need to use 480p with black lines in that case.

>>2393513
I'm not sold on any of these software methods. There's better and if I wanted to use a CRT I'd get a 480i TV.

>>2393517
I don't know why you're "not sold" when they work fine in practice.

>>2393519
They add lag and in the case of BFI only really work with games that run at 60fps.

Not sure how well BFI would work with a LCD either.

>>2393527
>They add lag

Already told you it doesn't add lag (besides what's already there from vsync and from the OS) and explained why. Doubling the refresh rate of the screen while doubling the swap interval usually reduces latency anyway.

Pretty much all games that aren't PAL or strange arcade hardware run at around 60Hz. So BFI at 120Hz would work fine. Other things would have to use 100Hz or double whatever their refresh rate was.

>>2393536
>Already told you it doesn't add lag
And I already told you that you're wrong.

>>2393541
>And I already told you that you're wrong.

You just said "Any kind of software picture editing adds lag", then I told you that it won't because it does not add buffering and it won't if it is done in the correct order. You didn't explain why this is wrong.

Please stop being obtuse.

>>2393553
I don't design the shit. I look at it from a user's point of view. And that kind of garbage has lag.

>>2393558

I guess some people will always look for lag where there isn't any. It's obvious you're not interested in listening to reason about this so we're done here.

>>2393590
What reason? Force some bullshit software garbage that will add lag and compatibility problems?

Makes total sense to go with garbage like that instead of just getting a 480i CRT TV.

>>2393594

I don't even know what you're arguing. A 480i CRT TV will not get any better results with emulation than a 480p PC CRT because they literally work the same way. One is just "more authentic" than the other but other than that there is no difference.

>>2393604
??? They look pretty different.

>>2393452
It's better to use 480p with that interlacing shader because that handles both 240p and 480i correctly.

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>>2393607

A PC crt runing at 240p-120 looks awesome (pic related)

>>2393536
if most old consoles ran at 59.94Hz, then it might be better to run games doubled at 119.88 Hz (instead of a straight 60 * 2)

could help with smoothness and any hitching.

>>2393658
>if most old consoles ran at 59.94Hz, then it might be better to run games doubled at 119.88 Hz (instead of a straight 60 * 2)

You don't have to do that if the emulator is using dynamic rate control to prevent hitching from timing differences. Though if you wanted 100% accuracy on timing you would need to do that I suppose.

>>2393536
a load of consoles run close to 59.94 but almost none at exact 59.94. Pixel clock is more important but harder to precisely obtain

>>2393403
Yeah, I don't have any to spare either... :\

That's why I was thrilled with my free PVM. :) I'd wanted one for around three or four years before I got this, though... It really is being in the right place at the right time.

>>2393471
convergence problem? maybe the phosphors are wearing thin or there's magnetization where there shouldn't be?

I'd try checking that the deflection yoke is working right, but not if you're not confident working on tubes... it might not be worth it if you aren't sure you won't hurt / kill yourself.

>>2393541
Unless frames are held in a buffer they will not produce substantial lag. If you just drop every other frame (by after a vsync sending nothing until the next vsync pulse) you should not produce any lag at all (or if you do it will be to the order of nanoseconds, and the duck hunt gun should still work.)

>>2393403
>I do not really have much in the way of money right now (that isn't going to Splatoon, anyways).

Does anyone know of any PC CRTs with 0.20mm pitch or less?

...do sub-0.20 monitors even exist?

all i do is take pictures of my crt now
i dont even play my games anymore
i caught autism from these generals
but i love it

Hi, looking for an opinion on this TV. The model number is KV-DR29M39. Is it a decent TV for retro gaming? Any assistance would be much appreciated!

>>2394252
The back of the set

>>2394252
Looks like an SD Trinitron, in which case it's probably pretty good. Don't pay money for it though.

>>2394269
Cheers for the reply. Been looking through these threads, but it seems US Trinitrons have different model numbers to the ones in AUS? I don't know too much about CRTs so it's been tricky finding comparable TVs (model no.) to the ones usually posted here.

>>2394294
I found a service manual, but there's not very much of use in it.

>>2394304
Found this through my searches too. You're right though, didn't really give me much to work from. Good to know it has the additional s-video i guess? haha

>>2394304
according to that it's based off the Americans/Japanese "WEGA KV-DR29" (should be exactly the same, except with some Australian only extras)

here's the user manual for it.

http://www.manualslib.com/products/Sony-Fd-Trinitron-Wega-Kv-Dr29-2057850.html

>>2393632

>interlacing shader

What interlacing shader?

>>2394304
Though it might be comparable to the Sony KV-27FV310 model, but i doubt it. I'm going off the aesthetics only.

>>2394316
nope, it's the KV-DR29.

>>2394314
it's a special shader in retroarch designed to make PC CRTs look more authentic, especially when it comes to games that use mixed resolutions

castlevania Symphony of the night

silent Hill,

sonic the hedgehog 2

I hear good things about it,

>>2394316
I was going to say the same thing for the same reason, but the KV-DX series also has the same look.

>>2394313
>Digital Reality Creation
If the difference between that model and the AUS one is just region, it could very well be an ED/HDCRT.

>>2394313
>WEGA KV-DR29
Cheers for the assistance! In that case, would it be worth it? As in a decent box to play retro on?

>>2394328

What is the name of this shader?

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>>2394331


it's called "TV out tweaks" I believe. and it's supposed to work nicely with ED/HD televisions as well.

it should be included in the retro arch package.

well according to some quick reviews I've read.

it has a both 60hz and 100hz modes. supports 480i and 480p ( so it's a ED-CRT)

and everyone seems to be generally impressed with the picture quality. ( has extremely high stripe pitch for consumer television))

most people in this thread will tell you HD CRTs are garbage for retro gaming, but this is an ED CRT (no 720p or 1080i)

so any type of processing should be very minimal especially if you make sure to keep 100 Hz mode off.

if I had the chance I would totally buy it. bring a game system with you and test it out if possible.

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was meant for
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>>2394357
Really appreciate you help with all this! I'd be running a modded NTSC SNES (superCIC) with added RGB, so i can play PAL/NTSC. Also, N64. I'd imagine this would give me what i'm looking for. He's essentially giving it away with stand/set top box/dvd, so i don't see why i won't pick it up and give it a whirl. Thanks again!

>>2394367
glad I could help you, hope everything works out.

come back here and take some pictures for us if you get a chance.

>>2394329
>Digital Reality Creation

this is a super funny read.

http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/News/Press_Archive/199705/97D-032/

>>2394387
TV from the article.

KW-32hdf9

HD in 1997? Japan was really on top stuff back then.

>>2393452

Well, I did this with my FW900, and it worked for the most part. The interlacing filter doesn't work right with Picodrive for some reason (pic related), which is a bummer because it's the only core that supports 32x.

I'm not sure I like the ridiculously sharp scanlines, but maybe I'll get used to it. The image is also noticeably darker than I'm used to.

>>2394402

Here it is working properly (I think).

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>>2394405

those scanlines don't look right... do you have all internal shader options set correctly? ( what resolution are you using?)

do you have a camera you could use to take off screen pictures?

what's your integer scale setting at?

>>2394408

Well the first screenshot definitely doesn't look right, but the last two seem fine to me.

I used all the same settings that guide said to use. Resolution is 3840x480. Integer scale is set to "ON".

I can take a picture in a but, but it mostly looks like the screenshots.

>>2394402
Picodrive is weird and seems to scale everything to 240 pixels high or something like that, which is why the scanlines look off. You can mess with the Aspect Ratio settings to fix that, though integer scaling must be turned off to make fine adjustments. Make sure to save the adjustments as a new config file solely for use with Picodrive, as that's one of the only cores that has issues with scanlines out of the box. Almost every other core I've tested works with scanlines with no need for tweaking.

As for picture brightness, the best you can do is increase brightness just high enough that blacks don't look grey (it will be obvious because they will stand out from the REAL 480p scanlines), max out or get close to max contrast, and set all colors to 100% intensity.

>>2394419
Try setting the vertical resolution to 448 pixels under Custom Ratio. Again, make sure to turn integer scaling off.

>>2394426

>Try setting the vertical resolution to 448 pixels

Any benefit to this over 480?

>make sure to turn integer scaling off

Guide says to turn it on. I turned it off and it didn't seem to have an effect.

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>>2392602
Okay, update. Still not had a chance to bring in the PVM-20L5 (because reasons), but here's a better focused pic from the panasonic.

>>2394429
Again, this is purely for use with Picodrive, which for some reason scales stuff wrong. Genesis and 32X games AFAIK all output at only 224 lines, but Picodrive scales them up to 240, hence the uneven scanlines. By adjusting the aspect ratio by lowering the vertical res down to 448, you should be able to fix the problem and get even scanlines.

>>2394435

Well, the other Genesis core (Genesis Plus GX) works just fine, so I'll just use that and sacrifice the 32x support.

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>>2392984

soul caliber in the arcade was originally a 240p game, makes sense that it would look fantastic at that resolution.

>>2394447

>posts picture of the game's title
>still spells it wrong

>>2394459
I'm using the Google voice typing feature from my phone, so of course it's probably going to make some mistakes.

only peasants use their thumbs to type

>>2394432
looks really nice, I've always wondered about those JVC monitors.

>>2394464
>only peasants use their phones for shit instead of a proper keyboard

>>2394470
Well, it's panasonic, but since they use the same tube, I suppose it'd apply to them too.

(the station engineer I got it from also had a JVC one but there's no way I'd be able to take 3 more CRT's)

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>>2394478
Here, take a frame from the Blues Brothers on the panasonic/JVC.
Sorry it's low-res, had forgotten to fix my camera settings when I took it.

>>2394432
>Still not had a chance to bring in the PVM-20L5 (because reasons)
If you don't bring it in soon, it may not be there when you go looking for it.

>>2394505
No, I have it. it's in the trunk of my car.
I just need to decide what I'm getting rid of before I bring it in.

BTW, car is a sedan so it won't be seen.

>>2394508
I hope you haven't been driving around with it in there, or if you have that it's at least very well cushioned.
Letting it get jostled around in there could throw it out of whack.

>>2394536
>>2393932

are these shots 480p?

>>2394536
yep, I'm being careful with it and haven't driven since i got it home. When I do I'll take it easy :\

And yes, it is somewhat cushioned.

>>2394551
Nope, 240p.

Sue photo is taken from the Retroarch's NXEngine on the Wii.
Fusion is from the recent VBAGX fork.

The OP photo technically is though./spoiler]

Know what's fun? Making DOS games run at 200p.

>>2394571
You know what's NOT fun? Trying to make some DOS games run.

>>2394574
Yeah, tell me about it. Alien Carnage works just fine on DOSBox, but refuses to run on my old DOS/Windows rig.

Some off-screen shots of my FW900 in psuedo-240p.

The scanlines are a bit ridiculous if I sit where I normally do, but if I back up a couple of feet it looks nice.

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>>2394613

Whoa, didn't notice that screen tear before.

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>>2394614
This is completely optional, especially if you're happy with the results, but if you're using TVOutTweaks, try setting the resolution setting to 768. It gives pixels a very slight roundness while keeping the image nice and sharp.

Maybe it's just me, but with CRTs, there is such a thing as TOO sharp. Without any horizontal blur, 240p on super sharp displays like CRT monitors looks barely any different than just nearest neighbor scaling on an LCD with black lines added on top.

>>2394623

>try setting the resolution setting to 768

Do you mean the resolution setting in the shader file itself?

I was using interlacing.cg but I'll check out TVOutTweaks.

>>2394626
There's a shader preset that combines the Interlacing, TVOutTweaks, and Image Adjustment shaders. Check that one out, as it has all the relevant options you could possibly want, including gamma adjustments and TV color levels to get as close to a CRT TV as possible on a monitor.

>>2394627

What's it called?

>>2394628
tvout+interlacing.cgp

>>2394630

Looks pretty similar, honestly. Maybe they're a little rounder.

>>2394648
you might like "crt-interlaced-halation" better, give it a shot.

>>2394653

I've tried that at high resolution, but it doesn't work right at 480p.

>>2394658
that's ok, just use it at the native (recommended) resolution of your monitor.

>>2394660

The whole point of this exercise was to get as close to a true 240p signal as possible. I'm pretty pleased with how it turned out.

>>2394623
set TVOUT_RESOLUTION = "768.000000"
in tvout+interlacing.cgp instead of TVOUT_RESOLUTION = "320.000000" ?

>>2394726

I did that. That's what produced this image: >>2394648

>>2394571
Are you using the retroarch dosbox core for that?
The scanline setting in normal dosbox looks like ass. I never managed to load a game in retroarch dosbox because it doesn't take my keyboard input.

>>2394728
Yeah but I'm asking the guy I replied to. Because I tried that and am not seeing a difference.

>>2394676
yes but that doesn't matter because crt-interlaced-halation is keeping the game at the proper resolution internally

the resolution setting you need to worry about when using it is the resolution of emulating conditions of a monitor ( the resolution of the actual pixels of the simulated screen)

it's a different way of simulating a lower resolution screen, with scanlines that are softer and closer to something like an 600 line PVM

>>2394735
People keep saying that if I am to use something like this on a CRT monitor I should disable phosphor emulation. How would I go about doing that?

>>2394734

It just introduces a bit of horizontal blur.

>>2394737
personally I like the phosphor glow, but if want to turn it down/off it should be in the shader's own settings menu. (shader parameters)

some pics I took of my tests,

>>2394750
you could also try CRT-royal

(just bi-liner)

>>2394756

(CRT-royal)

>>2394750
I mean doesn't the CRT monitor have its own phosphor glow? Isn't that why they tell you to disable it?

>>2394759

(crt-interlaced-halation)

>>2394762
some crts aren't as "bloomy" as others. it depends on the model.

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>>2392434
>>2394676
>>2394764

just make it look good, for "you".

>>2394769

>>2394762
>>2394764

sometime adding "inaccurate" effects can be neat.

Do you people apply CRT filters to GBA games as well or do you go for some kind of LCD filter instead?

>>2394791
people do both, but I prefer crt.

>>2394793

Since when is this thread the filter general?

>>2394609

>FW900

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>>2394614

I demand more images of that FW900!

>>2394781
this looks better than most of the emulated crt pictures posted.

>>2394821
I really pity you if your CRT looks anything like that.

>>2390324
What game is this?

>>2394837
Dragon Ball Z Super Butôden 2

>>2394834
what is wrong with it exactly?

>>2394931
That bloom looks like absolute shit.

>>2390327
>>2390328
Same TV different camera. Sorry about the shakyness

>>2394978

>>2394981

>>2394990

>>2394993

>>2394934
I thought that was just the camera effect, maybe not

Does /crt/ have some approved component switches?

>>2395036
just get off the couch and switch the plugs fat boy

>>2395039
____No.

>thinking of plugging my Dreamcast into my computer monitor to play them sweet games on my second screen
>Bangai-O isn't compatible

I found some FUNAI TV manufactured in 2003 I was quite surprised at how good it was because apparently FUNAI is horseshit il post some pictures later.

>>2394801
Eyy I've got a CRT but it doesn't do 240p, filters is all I have. Also yuro CRT TVs cant run shit above 50fps.

>>2395060
>Also yuro CRT TVs cant run shit above 50fps.
I got some old ass TELEFUNKEN from 1989 and even it can do NTSC.

>>2395041
If this pic reminds you of SWAT 3's expo level, you are my nigga..

>>2393983

Anyone?

>>2395060

> Also yuro CRT TVs cant run shit above 50fps

Nope, they can display 60fps and more. If your console output a 60Hz RGB signal, it takes it as it is. Most of the time, what they don't like are either NTSC composite signals and the likes.

>>2395060
many yurop tv can do 60hz, even some old ass with push buttons and screw tuning.

>>2394402

Increase contrast or brightness to compensate that, though increasing brightness only makes the blacks wash out in my case. I don't know if FW900 can do this, but you could also boost the color channels to max intensity, though that has an impact on color temperature (it will probably be closer to 9300K instead of 6500K, but you can adjust down to compensate.). This Dell e771p monitor is quite bright with these settings even with the half brightness from black lines or black frames with either pseudo-240p method.

>>2395060
You've already been corrected, but I would chime in and say that most of yuro TV's I've seen support NTSC as well. The big ones like Sony or Panasonic have the 60hz support most often than not. And even those that are just 50hz can take RGB from a NTSC console. Of course stuff like AV Famicom or a US NES require a TV that supports 60hz in composite.

I've got this widescreen sony trinitron the model of which i can't recall right now. Whenever I run it in 60hz 1/5th of the screen gets this weird ghosting where every second line stays behind longer than the rest of the screen. Doesn't occur when running it 50hz.

Someone I know has this, its a Zenith Space Command, just collecting dust in their basement. Its basically a table with a tv, should I let it keep collecting dust or take it off their hands?

>>2395720
just leave it alone.

>>2395720
mite b cool. but will only hrave rf input. It might die at any minute too because of dust & age.

>>2395060
if you get rgb scart cables they will do NTSC at 60hz, they just don't do it over composite

this is the case with my trinni, anyways

>>2395720
I found an old console tv similar to that that was in much nicer shape and in a more Dutch/mid-century style. It had a turntable on the side, as well as two speakers that swung out from the side. I restored it and sold it at antique shop for about $300. That thing was heavy as fuck, though.

But yeah, don't ever use one of those for anything but furniture.

>>2395710
You probably have some auto color correction option on that does it

>>2395720
Get it and put a pvm tube in it

Holy fuck a 36" trinitron is the heaviest fucking thing ever I'm gonna need some moving straps for this shitdick.

>>2392584
>Free H1390Y
>Free fucking 20L5

Fuck you.

>>2395493
>tfw SuperBright mode on Mitsubishi monitor deals with this problem perfectly

Is there any difference between ntsc and pal official SNES composite cables?

>>2396293
http://gamesx.com/wiki/doku.php?id=av:nintendomultiav
PAL composite should have a resistor to ground, according to this.

>>2396227
At least it's not the 40XBR. That thing comes in at a over 300lbs.

>>2396310
Holy fuck that's a big ass nigger. Glad I just got this trinitron I guess, I better like it because once we get that fuckhead set up I ain't moving that shit. Though really anything's better than the pile I've been using.

>>2395720
Zenith TV's are all pretty much bottom of the barrel when it comes to video quality. I have a 13 inch RF only Space Command and it's picture quality is in horrific shape, especially because it was heavily used. I have to have the brightness and contrast knobs turned all the way up to see anything.

>>2395720

If you have RF-only consoles, your might as well get it, though you'd need to have a tube rejuvenation kit because of how old it might be.

>>2396526
I'd agree if it could make for a good set piece as well, but it look a bit rough and beat up.
Wonder why they had the door duct taped shut.

>>2396537

It's made of wood, so applying wood wax, and maybe some paint and varnish will do the thing.
The hardest thing to do will be finding a rejuvenation kit so that the picture tube can be nice and all again.

>>2395047
I think Bangai-O can be forced into VGA Box mod, (with the game shark or other boot disk)

but it will output at 240p @60hz and your computer monitor likely won't be able to support that resolution.

only an RGB Monitor/TV or component video enabled television could probably take that signal

you would probably have to use a VGA to component transcoder though for the television.

>>2396592
or, you could just play the N64 version...

>>2395493
how do you set your resolution like that?

because when I use the Nvidia control panel, it just scan doubles every 240p resolution I set no matter what timings I use.

>>2396592
If you're forcing VGA mode, it'll either output 480p or nothing at all.
Well, you'd probably still get audio, but that's it.
Something else that is stupid as shit is another one of the DC's 240p compatible titles, SFIII Third Strike, supports 240p and VGA output, but not RGB SCART.
You can patch the ISO, but it's still retarded.

do you guys prefer high resolution images like this?
>>2392436

or resized lower-res images like the one I'm posting now?

>>2396621
>Something else that is stupid as shit is another one of the DC's 240p compatible titles, SFIII Third Strike, supports 240p and VGA output, but not RGB SCART.

What? Does that mean that you're forced to use composite or does it still allow you to play in 480i in RGB SCART? Because my Dreamcast didn't come with a composite cable.

>>2396621
kind of off topic, but does anybody really like Hugo?

I don't really like the way he plays, and I don't really like him as character ( I prefer Q as far as monster men go)

Poison is cool I guess, but I don't understand why her and Hugo are always joined at the hip in games ( I know they were both enemies in final fight).

Kya, could you get a picture of this pose from one of your CRTs?

>>2393734
>>2393669

I wonder if certain games even run at different refresh rates.

when I play Mega Man X or Streets of rage 1 on retroarch wii, I've noticed they both have scrolling hitches that don't occur on real hardware.

those are the only games I've noticed so far that have syncing issues, and MMX seems run fine from the official virtual console emulator, however SOR1 has the same problem even on the official VC.

and I haven't tested these games out on the PC version of RA

>>2396631
Dreamcast has three video modes.
Standard(Composite/S-Video, 240p or 480i)
RGB(240p or 480i)
and VGA(480p)
Third Strike supports Standard and VGA, but not RGB.
Enabling RGB mode is a very simple hex edit, but it's still frustrating that it's not enabled by default.

>>2396627
Smaller resolution is nice for eye candy, but makes it easy to hide defects in the image, be it convergence or otherwise.
Also, depending on the photo in question, you can get nasty moire patterns from the downscaling.

>>2396634
I'll can see what I can do. All the cabling for SCART is connected to the PVM, so if you're interested in a 240p shot, that's what it'll be on. Refresh my memory, is that from his stage intro or...?

Can't really speak on him as a character though. I don't really play many fighting games, and when I do, it's usually as cute/girl characters. All I can say is that he repeatedly beat the shit out of me last time I played.

This is better with audio.

>>2396634
I like Hugo. I liked his crazy facial expressions and part of me just wanted to play as the biggest motherfucker in the series. I got decent with him in 3S but he mystifies me in USF4. I have no idea how to use him effectively in that game because he seems to be even slower and the lack of parry makes navigating the fireball maze a nightmare for his huge ass.

>>2396634
>kind of off topic, but does anybody really like Hugo?

Are you joking?

I like Hugo. I think a lot of the SF3 characters were natural evolutions of their SF2 counterparts, but never really took off because people held a soft spot for the SF2 characters. That being said, I think Hugo is a much more fun grappler than Zangief ever was.

>>2396663
>Dreamcast has three video modes.
>VGA(480p)

does that mean you can't do the 240p trick when the VGA box is hooked up?

>Refresh my memory, is that from his stage intro?

I believe so, but it's also been a while since I played.

>but he mystifies me in USF4

that's interesting, all have to give it a shot when I finally get a chance to play that game.

>I think Hugo is a much more fun grappler than Zangief ever was.

I think you feel that way because Zangief never made it into SFIII and Hugo has so many zany animations.

if Zangief had gotten the SFIII, treatment I'm sure his Sprite would've been on par with the rest of the craziness in that game.

So for me I would pick Zangief over Hugo, and that's purely based on play preference. because I don't really like either one of them is characters ( although sometimes I think Zangief can be funny when he makes cameos in other games)

this also just reminds me how much I would love to see a new pocket fighter. (do you have any shots of that game Kya?)

>>2396663
>Dreamcast has three video modes.
>VGA(480p)

does that mean you can't do the 240p trick when the VGA box is hooked up?

>Refresh my memory, is that from his stage intro?

I believe so, but it's also been a while since I played.

>>2396664
>but he mystifies me in USF4

that's interesting, all have to give it a shot when I finally get a chance to play that game.

>>2396668
>I think Hugo is a much more fun grappler than Zangief ever was.

I think you feel that way because Zangief never made it into SFIII and Hugo has so many zany animations.

if Zangief had gotten the SFIII, treatment I'm sure his Sprite would've been on par with the rest of the craziness in that game.

So for me I would pick Zangief over Hugo, and that's purely based on play preference. because I don't really like either one of them as characters ( although sometimes I think Zangief can be funny when he makes cameos in other games)

this also just reminds me how much I would love to see a new pocket fighter. (do you have any shots of that game Kya?)

>>2396680
What 240p trick? You mean enabling it on games that support it?

VGA mode is just for 31khz(+) screens; 480p or bust.

>do you have any shots of that game
I actually believe I tried to get it to load in RetroarchWii a few days ago with no success, along with just about every other CPS I and II game I tried. I'm thinking it might just be the versions I'm downloading are just fucked.
Any big differences between the arcade and PS1 versions?

>>2396685
Actually, scratch that.

A quick test seems to show it loaded up fine. Tempted to see if some of the other troublesome games want to load as well, but with my luck, everything would stop loading.

>>2396685
>What 240p trick? You mean enabling it on games that support it?

yeah that's what I'm, that button combination thing I've seen people post.

> might just be the versions I'm downloading are just fucked

are you downloading FBA-Wii compatible versions?

>Any big differences between the arcade and PS1 versions?

from what I remember, the arcade version has more frames of animation and of course no load times. (but only the PlayStation version has that that special endless mode with the breath of fire character cameos)

>>2396685
>What 240p trick? You mean enabling it on games that support it?

yeah that's what I'm thinking, that button combination thing I've seen people post.

> might just be the versions I'm downloading are just fucked

are you downloading FBA-Wii compatible versions?

>Any big differences between the arcade and PS1 versions?

from what I remember, the arcade version has more frames of animation and of course no load times. (but only the PlayStation version has that that special endless mode with the breath of fire character cameos)

>>2396686
>>2396693

I have ROM sets that work 100% with retroarch wii. cps1 cps2 NegGeo and all the other nonstandard arcade games that FBA supports.

I could upload some specific games for you, or my entire set if you want later.

just tell me which option you would like

>>2396705
meant to say, "or my entire set" (it's 8gb)

>>2396519
I like my crappy Zenith. It does composite pretty okay.

>>2396705
>>2396707
all the Capcom games are only about 1gb

>60+ photos
>maybe one without moire and the correct exposure

>>2396693
>are you downloading FBA-Wii compatible versions
I'll admit, I'm not terribly well versed on the intricacies of arcade emulation. Some of the games I download work where others don't.
They're from emuparadise.

>special endless mode with the breath of fire character cameos
In that case, I might have to download the PS1 version anyway.

>>2396705
>>2396715
I'll probably end up picking through and deleting a large number of them, but the full set would be pretty cool.
The Capcom and NeoGeo games are the ones I'm mainly interested in, but I'd likely regret missing some stuff from the general arcade folder.

>>2396719
so cute, and colorful! ( what kind of controller set of you have? are you using the "classic" controller?)

>I'll probably end up picking through and deleting a large number of them, but the full set would be pretty cool.
The Capcom and NeoGeo games are the ones I'm mainly interested in, but I'd likely regret missing some stuff from the general arcade folder.

okay I'll post an upload link when I get a chance after a little nap.

personally I think every single game in this collection is pretty awesome.

>>2396730
>what kind of controller set of you have? are you using the "classic" controller?
I don't know if it's just the ones that I have, but I'm not a fan of the d-pads on both of my CCPs.

>>2396747
that looks like a Super Nintendo controller mixed with a gamecube, how does it feel when playing?

does it have the same amount of buttons a Super NES pad does?

>>2396747
I know what you mean, the classic controllers are okay but I prefer my original Super Nintendo pad from 1992, that's why I bought the adapter for it and it works great on the wii e

>>2396753
GC face buttons feel the same as any other first party GC controller, start/select and shoulder buttons feel the same as an SNES controller.
D-pad is slightly firmer than my go-to SNES controller, but this is in all likelihood just from age and wear on the latter.

Same number of usable buttons as an SNES controller, Select is an additional Y.

>>2396747
this is probably one of the stupidest controllers I've ever laid eyes on, I don't know what hori was thinking. in truth, they should have come up with something closer to the wii classic pro controller, but with Z mapped to L1/R and L2/R2 as GC like analog triggers. and it's really not a hindsight in 20/20 thing, using the gamecube face button layout was retarded then too.

How the fuck do I move a 36" Trinitron down a flight of narrow stairs? Me and my brother together can barely lift it.

>>2397068
>Don't b wimps.

>>2397068
>Me and my brother together can barely lift it.

Then you guys should lift some weights.

>>2396519
some zeniths are decent... especially the ones that are actually heathkits in disguise.

>>2397068
find two manly men to take the place of you and your brother.

and for my helpful answer:
hold the tv: screen-down, this distributes the weight evenly for an easier carry.

my friend and i just moved my 27" trinny up super narrow attic-like stairs. there was half an inch clearance to the walls on either side.

it's staying up there when i move, that's for sure.

>>2397195
We managed to muscle it once we got a better grip and some gloves.

Now the problem is calibrating it and getting the remote to work.

>>2392584
>>2392636
>>2394432
>>2394508
Alright. Brought the PVM-20L5 inside at last... gave a friend my old 27 inch toshiba CRT to make room. It had decent YpBpR component, so he was happy (fellow gamer!) :D

Have a sample pic. I like it.
a couple more to follow.

>>2396259
>fuck you
Yeah, I know, right?
Just keep trying and don't be afraid to ask people in professional areas if they have it. I got a free oscilloscope and about 50 feet of cat5e cable that way.

>>2397225
Here, have another pic.

>>2397096
I just lifted a 20 inch PVM down a single flight of stairs - it weighs 60% of what _I_ weigh. At a certain point you need to just get a third person :\

>>2397225
>>2397230
pics of pixels and scanlines :D

>>2396747
out of curiosity, what PVM/BVM is that?

>>2397225
>>2397230
>>2397231
...one more pic.

So I want to build a Mame cabinet for arcade and consoles up to the 5th gen. What type of CRT should I get, a PC monitor or TV? I don't want to spend more than $100 on the display and it should be at least 25in (I plan on having two players).

>>2396604
Make sure you use "CVT" or "GTF" timings and not "automatic".

>>2397245
PVM 20M2MDU/E

Got one on a desk next to me.

>>2396820
It was intended to be a digital only pad, for shit like the GBPlayer. Including analog controls just sours that.
I personally like the GC face buttons, but switching them to the SNES layout could work too.

>>2397394
>>2397245
20M2MDU

>>2397293
Above 22-23'', you're pretty much limited to TVs.

I went to the thrift store And i found this should i buy it?

>>2397539
How much, and is there anyway to connect anything up to it to see how it looks?

Could be a PMCS17A.
https://objects.eanixter.com/PD392766.PDF
If so, it claims to have composite and s-video, but with an oddly high line count considering.

>>2397563
Its about 25 bucks

>>2397581
If it's in good condition, it'd probably make for a nice monitor.

The thing that worries me is they seem to be intended for security use, so it could have some burn in.

>>2396709
Ado threw me for a loop back in the day. I was pretty damn sure she was a boy, but then that pic happened and let's just say my preteen dick was quite confused.

>>2397225
Looks very similar to my Diamondtron with fake 240p.

>>2397683
How does one fake 240p?

Also, this registers as 480i, so it does not appear it actually goes down to 240p. But it still looks great further away from the monitor

>>2397914
(actually, it might go down to 240p on RGB - just not composite.)

>>2397916
By turning overscan on, you can get the scanlines closer, too, just so you know.

>>2397924
*underscan

>>2397230
Never had a problem moving a TV pvm or otherwise by myself until I got the bvm2010p. That thing is a two man job

>>2397683
...pretty sure that's actually 240p. the lines are evenly spaced, as they should be. It's just noticeable on large monitors.

>>2397942
When my back goes bad at 35, I'll be able to blame PVM's and BVM's.

>>2397914
240p is not an actual standard, rather a modification of the way the existing 480i one worked and displayed an image.
The monitor seeing it as and reporting it as 480i is normal.

>>2397283
Nice, anon :)

Anyone know if there are any downsides to the 'L5 series? Are they as good as 480i-only models at 480i/240p?

>>2398065
If huge scanlines are a bother to you, there's that, I guess.

>>2397581
>https://objects.eanixter.com/PD392766.PDF
Yeah, looks like it might be alright. Test if at all possible.

>>2398070
Yeah, that counts as a downside, at least potentially.

thx

>>2397942
>>2397957
Hah, I'm 40 and... oh wait, my back is fucked.

>>2398156
The L4, M4, and any of the other sets with 20'' 800 line tubes would all probably suffer from the same "problem".

>>2392992
Pvm-14m2u, DC VGA to component.

>>2398468

>>2398468
Wait, if you run VGA through the RGB/Component ports of an m2u, what do you get? 480i?

I assumed it wouldn't work if it's putting out a 480p signal, you'd get that weird half image split.

>>2398493

you're absolutely right.

that's why I'm down converting 480p VGA into 240p RGB

Current setup focus: 16bit.

Mk1 PAL Mega Drive, official RGB cable.
SNES Mini, THS7314 RGB mod, 220uF 6.3V caps on 7805 and RGB chip 5V lines, official PAL GameCube cable.
Duo R, THS7314 RGB mod, Turbo EverDrive.

Plan to get a Mega EverDrive v2 and sd2snes next month.

>>2398709
i always feel like i'm you, just a year or two in the past...

my dur r waiting for me to find time to do a THS7314 RGB mod and my PVM-1390 that i still haven't been able to fix.

>>2398759
and my PVM-1390's issues:
wavy shit, looks like magnetic interference but i'm no expert.
the issue occurs on all inputs.

reposting the webm in case someone has an idea.

>>2398762
Hmm, I'm not 100% but isn't that a sync issue?

What systems are you using?

>>2398759
>>2398709
Hello

>>2398776
Aw, yours is in better condition than mine.

Your SNES is modded I hope!

>>2398709
Should add I hard modded the Mega Drive from English/50Hz to Japanese/60Hz.

>>2398779
Not yet. I just got it recently when my old SNES died ;_;

>>2398762
>>2398772
>sync issue?

it happens on every input regardless of what i have hooked up to it.
(it does composite, svideo and rgb through CMPTR DB25)

the video is of some racing game on a genesis model 2 via RGB SCART-->DB25 adapter from retrowhatevercables

I bought a scart cable for my wii but I'm noticing no difference over composite.

>>2398850
Is it an RGB SCART cable?

>>2398856
Pretty sure, it's third party though.

>>2398860
it might be lacking power on pin 16. I've seen shitty PS2 and GC 3rd party cables without it, and the tv won't switch to RGB if it's not there.

>>2398872
Oh fuck, I know my TV supports it, so that's not an issue. Guess I'll buy a new one and return the cable. Thanks.

>>2398876
is pin 16 present on the plug ? If no, well, you have your answer, if yes you can check if there's voltage on it.
You could also wire a resistor from pin 8 to get the required voltage.

>>2398889
>is pin 16 present on the plug ?

Yep, it's there.

>>2398898
did you open the plug to see if it's wired to something ?

>>2398930
You were right, pin 16(and a few others) wasn't connected.

It's neotechs, it says it "Allows TV to receive clear RGB signals through it's Scart socket" what a load of crap.

>>2399312
the quick way is to put a resistor between 8 and 16 but value depends of voltage provided by pin 8.

>>2399335

whoops, forgot to delete the quote sorry anon

>>2396730

>>2398850
the Wii outputs really decent composite. If everything else checks out it's *possible* you're just not noticing the difference on an LCD or consumer CRT. A PVM should be a little sharper, but i'm led to conclude you're not using one of those.

Is your TV giving any acknowledgement that something is feeding it RGB?

>>2399335
yeah, if the other pins are even wired correctly...

He should just throw that shit back in the seller's face.

>>2399970
soz, didn't read down. Sounds like your cable is wired for composite not RGB

is there any way to fix this? my crt is tilted and there is no tilt correction option.

>>2400087
tilted on every input?

>>2400094
it only has one input but every console I've tried is tilted.

>>2399892
Hi, i'm still here.

Just making sure I do it right.

been awhile since I used mega

>>2400098
or I might use google drive

>>2400098
>>2400101
No need to rush. Was just worried something might have gotten to you in your sleep.

Whichever you decide on is fine with me.

>>2396730
>>2400098
>>2400207
What Roms are we talking about here? MAME, or something else/in addition?

>>2400225
see
>>2396705

>>2398762
have you tried checking the power supply?

or plugging it into a different outlet?

>>2398709
>>2398776

What is this monitor? It looks amazing.

>>2400097
What model is it?

>>2400305
KX-14CP1

PVM-1390 shares the same design.

Why doesn't my Trinitron have scanlines? It's a KV-1442ESP. The source on this pic is a SFC through RGB SCART, but it doesn't have scanlines on composite either.

>>2400429
It looks fine to me. The reason they're not massively visible is the size of the tube.

Looking at your photo, you can pick them out relatively clearly on the background as well as the mountain on the left.

>>2400446
Oh, so it is because of the size. Nice to know, thanks! I actually like these fine scanlines better tahn what I've seen on larger sets. This set sure was worth the €10 I paid for it, even though I needed to mod it to display 60Hz signals properly (It didn't have V-size correction).

It's the guy with the KV-1442ESP again. I have found a manual for the KV-1440ME2, which is based on the same chassis (XE-5). The main video IC (IC301, CXA1001A) is the same as on my TV.
http://elektrotanya.com/sony_kv-1440me2_sch.pdf/download.html
I had a few questions about this IC:
1. Can I feed it S-video on pins 2 and 31? They are marked as Y. IN and C. IN.
2. There's a pin called PAL/NT(Pin 21), which is tied to 12V. If I put a switch on my TV to switch this pin between 12V and GND, will it be able to display NTSC composite signals in color?
Thanks in advance.

>>2398872
I'm not seeing a difference either and my cable is first party. I also seem to have the pin 17 on the cable which is not marked on your schematic. I wonder what it does?
I'm >>2395710 btw.

>>2400536
17 is video ground.
do you have multiple scart inputs ? Is it connected to scart 1 ? Only scart port 1 is guaranteed to support RGB.

>>2400536
It's a ground pin, which your cable seems to have very few of.

>>2396634
Imgur refuses to take these so..
http://pastebin.com/THNq32ea

>>2400575
nintendo seems to like wiring only video ground. Snes cable is the same, not even 21 shielding is connected....

>>2400491
Nobody?

>>2400568
It does have multiple scart inputs, I guess I could try them 1 by 1 but would it be difficult telling if RGB kicked in that way?

>>2400589
just connect it to number 1, your tv should autoswitch and the tv OSD should tell you if you're not sure.

>>2400589
>>2400592
and you should see the difference right away. Stuff like thin lines should be clear

>>2400592
I can't even tell which one is 1, the TV is in a cramped location and really big. I have to plug it in blind with only my hand going behind it.

>>2400606
look for a manual then.
or just try them until the osd tells you it's AV1 or EXT1 or WHTVR1

>>2400608
>WHTVR1
I need to label an input that at some point.

>>2395710
>>2396052
I have no such option, here's an image of the scroll test of 240p test suite. Also this is supposed to be 240p but it looks upscaled. The model of my Sony Trinitron is KV-32LS65E

>>2400585
If it's wired like that on the other set and everything else is there, I'd say probably.

Can't think of a reason why not, actually, besides that you'd need a way to select the S-video input.

>>2400728
I forgot the image.

>>2398156
That guy wasn't who posted the image. I am.

BTW, here's one from further away. You definitely have to sit further away with a 20 inch. I'd recommend after using my 14 inch panasonic that you get a 14 inch one if you want to play with it right in front of your face.

From further away, the 20 is quite nice. I'm about 3 or four feet (around a meter) away from the TV and the scanlines are, while noticeable, not annoying like they are at one or two feet (maybe half a meter or less).

>>2400729
I have just tried the NTSC/PAL switch. Doesn't work.
The composite input is wired to the Y and C inputs so it should just be a matter of putting in a simple switch.

>>2400749
In that case, probably. Though you'd have to be sure you actually cut off whatever's splitting the composite from the S-video input, so it doesn't interfere.

I can't believe this is an unshielded RGB cable.

I found a nice sony pvm with those weird bnc hookups. would you guys recommend pic related for my ntsc snes?

PVM 2030 w/ speakers. Would cost $50 + whatever a VGA-to-CMPTR cable costs, if one exists. Worth picking up if I already have a 14"?

>>2400984
retrogamingcables is legit. whether or not that cable is the one you need depends on your setup, but it probably is.

This is a cable I got for my Megadrive 2. The colours come out wrong on my PVM and I'm assuming this is because there are no caps on the RGB wires?

>>2401134
Here's what it looks like when used.

>>2401138
Congratulations, you created your very own ORIGINAL CHARACTER DONUT STEEL fan mod.

>>2401138
>>2401134
Think they need a 75 Ohm resister and 220 uF cap.

>>2401150
This is my thought, too. There's already a resistor in there so adding a cap should do the trick. From what I understand, any cap over 100uF will work, higher the better (220 seems to be the common choice).

>>2401138
Yup. Stuff of childhood nightmares, there.

>>2401156
Ya I don't have enough understanding to know why but 220 uF seems to be the choice. Like $10 from mouser and you enough for like 15 cables.

Here's a stupid question for you. Where exactly do I stick a 75 ohm terminator on the video out line? is it just between the video line and ground?
(Sony PVM)

>>2401186
(BTW I am not the same guy, I'm a different guy with a different problem. video is too bright when I connect a BNC cable between video out and my oscilloscope)