/vr/ - Retro Games

PS1 worships Satan
that's why

so that's why they're called Sonyggers

Can somebody please give me a straight answer?

I need to know.

they printed the image on the wrong side.

I see your shitty troll threads all about the place with your trip fuck off.

http://www.nme.com/news/marilyn-manson/84921

>>2385202
no, you're a tripfag

I happen to know that in the 90's CD-roms with cleard backs existed, so it's obvious that this was a conscious decision by Sony and Playstation. So why...? Why make the back of the discs black?

No reason, other than a cosmetic gimmick.

>>2385228
maximum edge like the userbase

Maybe because Sony is a bunch of cucks.

I heard it was copy protection.

>>2385229
Now that I don't accept. There must have been an advantage.

>>2385238
The Sony Playstation had a specific kind of lazer reader, and the dark surface helped read the data at a faster bitrate due to less refraction on the surface of the disk.

>>2385238
It makes them look fucking wicked, Idiot.

>>2385238
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6ek2bKW22A
style and also copy protection.

>>2385237
this is also what i've heard, makes it impossible for a normal system to read or something like that

https://youtu.be/L6ek2bKW22A

The dark surface was actually easier for the PS1's laser to read compared to a traditional disk.

>>2385243
>>2385237
It wasn't copy protection, it was only for looking edgier than a normal CD. But it was easier to explain to the masses that the same thing also acts as copy protection.

The copy protection part was a wobble in the groove of the pits on the cd, that the drive firmware checked for. It was applied during printing of the disc, and it cannot be burned as it would require special discs that have the wobble pre-built into their spiral groove.

>>2385272
>edgier
Would you cut out with that meme already? Just because something's black doesn't mean it's fucking edgy.

>>2385276
>https://youtu.be/L6ek2bKW22A
>1:03
>distinctive cool playstation only look

absolutely the appropriate use of 'edgy'

>>2385276
It wasn't edgy because it was black, it was edgy because it looked different from a regular CD. Which made it special, which made it desirable.

For scanning purposes

>>2385164
>black
actually they're dark violet. hold one up against a light and you'll see they're not really black. that said, was just another primitive anti-piracy measure, to combat commercial piracy known as "hongkong silvers", in which counterfeit games are produced exactly how sony, etc does it and then packaged as legitimate goods.

>>2385243

Fucking powerslave cd's man. Righteous.

>>2385272

I dont think they're talking about that kind of protection, more like.... Chinese manufacturers wouldnt go through the trouble of making black cd's just for the playstation so counterfeit games would really stick out.

>>2385437
this. it was just to make it obvious when a game is pirated or not.

"silvers" (or pressed, counterfeit Playstation (and Saturn!)) games were referred to as such because the bottom of the disc was silver, instead of black (like an official disc).

>>2385164
>Why are the back of PS1 discs black

Because they steal your evening

I remember when most early PS2 disks were dark blue, but later changed to the regular silver color.

>>2385568
There were official silvers too, mind you. Usually press disks or magazine pre-release demos.

>>2385663
wasn't that because early PS2 games came on CDs, but they switched to DVDs aggressively because, early on, they were more difficult to copy?

>>2385672
sony also pressed games onto silver discs way near the end too. If you got a copy of chrono cross from the sony store online recently (which was still being sold last time I checked) I am sure it was a silver disc.

>>2385276
You're a fucking idiot. Sony ripped Sega's "extreme" marketing and it permeated
everything about Playstation 1

>>2385276
Mid 90s were all about that edge bro.

>>2385663
blue means its on a regular old CD and not a DVD. Half Life comes on a blue disc.

>>2385672
>>2385676
"Silvers" was a convenience term from the 90s and early 2000s, referring specifically to Hong Kong produced bootlegs (Which were of higher quality than regular old CD-Rs) that were pressed like standard CDs. I'm actually kind of surprised to even see it spoken of again. Official silver PSX discs (Which were only produced way, way, way late into production, like 2008-ish) definitely look more proprietary than standard silver audio CDs.

>>2385724
Yeah my final fantasy anthology which I bought a couple years ago brand new is on a silver disc. It was pretty cool buying a brand new playstation game in 2013 though haha.

>>2385724
not only hong kong did this, there was also a pirate PS1 boom in Russia as well.

For those saying PS1 discs aren't edgy

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/why-marilyn-manson-released-his-new-album-on-old-p/1100-6427016/

>>2385724
>Which were only produced way, way, way late into production, like 2008-ish

A ton of magazine press discs were on silvers.

Really it is just a coincidence term for those bootlegs, since most CDs were either silver or golden. They are "ordinary" pressed discs with no artwork. Hong Kong bootlegs were like that because they copied discs in disc pressing plants as opposed to owning twenty CDR drives (back in the 90s, that was way more economic, given that a 1x burner could fetch a thousand dollars)

>>2385885
>with thermal layer that turns white as they heat up from playing
Neat

>>2385164
Back in the day, black CDRs were said to be highly reflective.

>>2385404
>"hongkong silvers", in which counterfeit games are produced exactly how sony, etc does it
Sounds very reminiscent of "DVD-9s" from Kuala Lumpur (or perhaps that was Jakarta).

>>2385164
Some say that it was a form of copy protection, but as it's able to run standard silver discs it's an invalid theory. Most likely it was just to look cool.

Fucking Edgar the tripfag POS is at it again
Dude, just get the fuck off this board

>>2385696
Rinse and repeat
Here's to late 90s edginess
I pre-ordered this album

>>2385164

Looks mostly. Product differentiation is important in marketing so the black underside of the game software set it apart from other CD game systems at the time.

>>2385243

This is where Sony truly set itself apart from other software media production industries at the time. Before Playstation's arrival both NEC and Sega were still using the same Shoshinkai wholesaler system for CDs as they were doing for mask roms. This gave Sony the upper hand with 3rd parties by significantly reducing production lead-times, risk and costs.

>>2385672
>>2385676
right, it's a generalization but the vast vast majority of official releases were black discs and it doesn't change the fact that most people who were around/into the scene at the time called the pressed bootleg discs "silvers"

even the resellers from hong kong, thailand, malaysia etc. called them silvers.

>>2386120

Leaving aside the average fan, SOAD had a really good sound.

>>2386054
You dont get to silence me.