/vr/ - Retro Games

My only problem with those kind of images is that it doesn't tell me anything. I dont know any of these games and even if I did, I wouldn't know exactly why you have those reactions.

But seriously, I am a shmup casual, so this might be one of those seires 'everyone should know' and Iam just being casual.

I do enjoy Einhander.

>>2363275
I just really dislike the term "shmup"

>>2363279
I've only ever heard it used online. EVeryone I know irl, including myself just call them Shooters.

>>2363279
Why do you hate the word shmup?

>>2363270
How is this game /vr/?

>>2363293
IMO, like most Toaplan games it's a little on the bland side and the levels go on forever. Some groovy tunes on the MegaDrive port, but for older Toaplan I think you're better off playing Fire Shark or maybe even Twin Hawk (which is ironic because of my complaint of blandness).

Zero Wing isn't bad and I like launching enemies at one another but it's on the lower end of the oeuvre.

>>2363270
>posts daioujou, daifukkatsu, and saidaioujou on a retro forum

how does it feel being the cancer killing stg?

>>2363279
2.5d is a worse term. You can't have half of a dimension

>>2363270
Fuck off back to /v/.

>>2363329
its already dead either way

>>2363349
>tfw

I mean has there been another cave game since akai katana? the only decent stg I've heard of since is crimzon clover... damn.

>>2363270

I like DoDonPachi and DoDonPachi Dai Ou Jou.
Being able to tate the former on a PSP and play it portably is cool as fuck.

>>2363293
Play the mega drive version and ONLY THE MEGA DRIVE VERSION, it has the best music.

>>2363350
saidaioujou was their last arcade, they are focusing on cellphones now

>>2363361
But what about the PCE version?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EMX1bYoEV0

>>2363367
aww man all your base your base

"Shmup" is a stupid fucking word, please refrain from using it. It's basically just a word Americans invented to they can talk about STG without getting all tongue-tied. Americans have this bizarre cultural phobia of enunciating things properly; I'll never understand it.

your just looking for reasons to shitpost, arent you

>>2363382
I think "shmup" is fine as slang even used in printed text, but I once heard a self-proclaimed "expert" say it phonetically in conversation, and I just couldn't take him seriously.

>>2363573
Almost forgot: he also pronounced "SNES" phonetically.

>>2363382
>Americans have this bizarre cultural phobia of enunciating things properly
I think that's mostly a southern thing.

>pronounce Louisville correctly
>someone always smugly says "ah kin tell yer not from aroun' here! It's Luhhh-v'll!"

>>2363382

>Americans have this bizarre cultural phobia of enunciating things properly; I'll never understand it.

Really? I've met more Canadians and Brits who were uptight about that sort of thing.

I don't know why any of these

>>2363575
>>2363573
>>2363382

posts care how other people say things.

>>2363582
Try Massachusetts:

Worcester
>Wuhsta
Woburn
>Wooburn
Billerica
>Bill Ricka
Peabody
>Peeb'dee
Haverhill
>Hay'vrill
Leominster
>Lemon'ster

>>2363382
The word was first coined in a British magazine if I am remembering correctly.

>>2363607

Well that's just old ass english, also you forgot gloucester.

>>2363352
>>2363382
http://youtu.be/8iWWf6KqIQw

So what kind of a ship do you usually go for? Do you use homing, spread or are you a straight shooter?

>>2363382
>STG
>Shoo Ting Game
>same # of syllables in Shoo Ting Game as Ess Tee Jee anyway
fucking awful, fails at the entire purpose of acronyms

>>2363663
The boy in the tights kind.

>>2363663
Straight>Spread>>>>>Homing

Homing is for faggots who can't aim and dodge at the same time

since this thread is pretty much just shitposting, when the fuck is the dariusburst ac crack gonna get released

Shoot Them Downs.

You guys forgot the most important subgenre.
>cute em up
>cmup
>cumup
>qtmup

>>2363718
I prefer the second one.

>>2363718
um actually they are called CTG - CuTie Game

>>2363728
But "cumup" is more hilarious, especially if you say it out loud.

>>2363382
>this faggot

"Shmup" was invented way back in the day by the british gaming press. One of the big magazines of theirs around the late-80s/early-90s or thereabouts. I'm old enough to remember long before that when they were just "spaceship flying/shooting games". Americans seem to have adopted the term from the british via the 90s internet/usenet/etc.

>>2363818
>"Shmup" was invented way back in the day by the british gaming press. One of the big magazines of theirs around the late-80s/early-90s or thereabouts.

Just to clarify, they obviously used it to shorten "shoot 'em up", the origin of which I am not even remotely aware of.

>>2363270
what is the name of the leftmost game on the bottom?

>>2363827
I think it was inspired by the beat em up genre, which I don't knew the origin of, and which I also find strange in that it doesn't have a similar contraction.

>>2363292
Because "shoot 'em up" is already a short version of "shoot them up".
You don't see people calling beat 'em ups "bmups".

>>2363857
I think the beat 'em up term hasn't been contracted because it's not universal. They're called everything from "brawlers" to "scrolling fighters" to "beltscroll action" to "beat 'em alls" depending on where you're at.

>>2363858
Thats because "bmups" doesn't roll of the tongue as well as "shmup" does. Shmup has been used for 20+ years already, get the fuck over it.

>>2363931
Shmups doesn't really roll off the tongue, either. Perhaps there needs to be fewer letters.
How about calling them "shps"? I've eliminated another two letters thus saving you even more time!

>>2363964

Maybe you should ask for people to put trigger warnings in the OP so you can avoid threads like this.

>>2363931
shmup sounds retarded, even without shortening it shoot 'em up sounds pretty retarded

>>2363964
Like I said, Shmups has been used for 20+ years. Everyone knows what shmup means. Introducing a new word to replace just because you don't like it is fucking retarded.

I really like Guwange.
It has a neat art style and novel mechanics.

By the way, is there any specific place where you can find game-specific information on danmaku regarding hitboxes, scoring systems and so forth?

>>2363275
>>2363270

I am a casual as well.

Favorites
>Vertical
Radiant Silver Gun
19XX
Ikarugua
>Horizantal
Einhander
UN Squadron
Raiden !V
>Rail
S&P2
Star Fox 64
Panzer Dragoon Orta
>Other
Bangai-O

>>2363975
shmupsforum is decent for info

>>2363964

>got rid of only vowel to make it easier to say

>>2363981
I know about it, but never thought to search through it for strategy tips.
Thank you.

>>2363971
>doing something for a long time means it's the right thing to do
>>2363984
>the joke flying over your head like Opa-Opa with a rocket engine

>>2364003

>doing something for a long time means it's the right thing to do

It does when it comes to language. Which is why everyone who intentionally pronounces "color" wrong because it was wrong 300 years ago is a cunt who deserves to die.

>>2363337
Yes you can actually
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hausdorff_dimension

>>2363382
Ah come on guys, this is a troll.
>Americans
>STG
and a damn fine one at that.

>>2363832
DoDonPachi DaiOuJou/Blissful Death

You can get it for MAME or iOS

>>2363293
A bit on the dull side but that's mostly because I think they trained new Toaplan employees by making them develop it.

Still worth playing.

>>2363607
You mean there are Americans who actually know how to pronounce Worcester correctly?

>>2363607
Also, Leominster is actually pronounced Lemster.

>>2364165

Worcester, MA is named after Worcester England so it makes sense they're pronounced the same.

New England is New England but MA especially has a strong Ye Olde England presence.

>>2363660
That shit is hilarious. I love that dude

Did folks not like DDP Maximum? I haven't played it yet. I played SDOJ and it's pretty fun other than the autobombing (eugh).

This kind of crosses the line into not retro, BUT

What are the best PC shmups retro and not retro? here's what I got so far

>>2364251
Get Tyrian, it's now free

What are your favorites on Genesis/MD?
I heard there are some cool Japan only titles.

>>2364225
boost mode has no autobomb

R-Type best type.

>>2364252
>Tyrian

>>2364251
Cho ren Sha
http://www004.upp.so-net.ne.jp/x_xgameroom/
Ether Vapor is from the same devs who made Astebreed and imo it's much better. It's also on steam.

>>2364341
How has this guy still not made any other commercial game? I'm sure it would be pretty good and he even wants to make one.

I've 1cc'd PCB Lunatic and 1-ALL'd Dodonpachi, but anything harder than bombing through those seems far above my level.

I've read stuff like the Full Extent of the Jam, but playing an STG according to a route seems completely alien. I can understand something like a speedrun route in a different video game, but strict routing for a scrolling shooter doesn't click for me at all. Is there any trick to it? I can watch superplays, but understanding and copying even a basic boss strat seems way harder than it should be. I swear I'm not retarded.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pONIGdSLd1s

What are some other groovy shmups? DoDonPachi gets thrown around a lot but it just sounds like a bdsm club to me

>>2364430
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpF1dFMXSjM

>>2364436

>guys floating through space are point pickups

Well alright

>>2364430
>Posts best game and best music
>Expects it outdone

>>2364473

Doesn't have to be outdone, adjacent or slightly below is fine

Anyone know how the scoring system works in Raiden DX? Sometimes I shoot down everything in sight and think I'm doing really well, but my score will be shit. Other times, I'll think I'm doing poorly, and then my score will be much better. What the hell?

>>2364484

You get a bonus for playing recklessly.

>>2364430
I always thought 19XX: The War Against Destiny was pretty groovy, but being a Capcom game that's to be expected I guess.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9Dbn4JFguo

>>2364492
So being closer to enemies gets you more points then?

>>2364516
This one's pretty great. Africa and Arctic was a lot of fun.

>>2364532

Not sure how it works, if you have a look at the bonus description, you will see one named Guts in english version, try and take a feel for it doing different things, it basically measures how many risks you took according to the game.

>>2363270
>Don/Dodonpachi
>reminded of Xopachi and those wonderful curvaceous babes he draws
>he even uses a similar hornet logo
>mfw

That is all.

>>2363858
>>2363931
>>2363964
Cunning linguist here. [ʃm] isn't a native cluster to English but most speakers will be acquainted with it if they've ever heard loanwords like "schmuck". [bm] is garbage though, so bmups would never work.

>>2364573
Found this break down of the scoring system as well as other hidden scoring features of the game. Apparently, you get more points the more time spent in the upper part of the screen.

http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1080

>>2363582
That's literally everywhere
>New Joisey
>New Yawk
>Balmer
>Bahston
>Chahlut(Charlotte)
>N'awlins (New Orleans)

>>2364568
Capcom shmups are underrated. Unless you play something lousy like Eco Fighters, you are likely to get a mechanically solid game with good visuals and great music. Another good shmup with good music is the earlier Varth.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxIppJmSYcY

The game is pretty long, I think clocking in at around an hour with 30 stages. Intense!

>>2365138
No one says "N'awlins" in New Orleans. No one here has that accent.

>>2365171
I'm also partial to UN Squadron, arcade or SNES version is hella fun. I'll check ouy Varth seems cool.

>>2363975
system11

>>2363697
>MUH PRIDE

>>2364367
join the dark side.

give in to your desire to dodge without memorization.

>>2364367
join the dark side.

give in to your desire to dodge without memorization.

>>2363293
It's really bland aside from the soundtrack, if it were not for that meme it probably would have been forgotten forever by most people.

>>2363270
I gotta disagree with you on DonPachi. That guy who talks to you throughout the whole game just makes my day whenever I play it.

>LOOK AT WHAT WE GOT HERE, A MULTI ASSAULT TANK! WATCH YOURSELF KID!

>>2364367

It comes naturally if you start trying to play for score instead of just survival. You'll start learning where you want to be, and what you need to do to minimize the danger of the situation while still getting points. For the really insanely tough scoring tricks, you can leave those till later and try a more survivable option.

In CAVE games, this can really benefit you since they tend to drop a couple point based extends, and the games just have really fun scoring systems in general.

>>2366607
If you want a real challenge, play the Hong Kong version. Want an impossible challenge? Play the Hong Kong version on very hard.

>>2363975
https://www.ultraimg.com/images/poster3.jpg
https://www.ultraimg.com/images/poster1.jpg
https://www.ultraimg.com/images/poster2441e7.jpg

heres a bunch of instruction strips i'm pasting on my cabinet. some are not the best quality but it's english.

>>2363270
I don't like your opinions OP

I don't like them at all

I've been playing the collections M2 made for the PSP of Konami's shooters. While the collections are great, I really wish that they would have gone the extra mile for a few of the game to include the ports and such, much like a few Sega Ages sets did.

Like Parodius Da!, the console ports added to that, didn't they?

Finally did it lads

>>2366851
>playing Gradius NES
>make it through on one life, gonna be a no-miss
>forget about the closing door before the brain
>screen scrolls foward, forcing me into the closed door
>fuck

>>2366851
is this arcade or PCE? the recent MAME updates made the color palette darker and made the two versions even harder to distinguish

>>2366876
It's such a cheapshot putting that right at the end when you're about to win. The door closes faster on NES too. But on arcade you at least have a chance to finish the game if you die after the last checkpoint. If you die before that you're just so completely fucked.

>>2366889
MAME

>>2366895
Ah, congratulations then, I've yet to beat it on MAME but I beat the PCE version several times and I'm getting more confident.

I can make it past the Moai stage now.

>>2366897
I've never played it on PCE, but I heard it was pretty much a straight port.

Moai is probably the hardest stage for me after the last one, because it's just so easy to get sniped in the back. My runs usually end on the Moai but if I get past it I'll probably at least make it to the final stage.

This game was really hard to beat for me, and it took so long, I guess because I'm pretty new to shmups, and you're pretty much allowed no mistakes in this one, since one little mistake usually means a game over.

>>2366912
It's a very straight port, with the exception of reduced difficulty which makes it great for beginners, an added stage between the inversed volcano and tentacle one and hidden bonus stages.

Anyone who wants to get into Gradius, I recommend the PCE version. Note that it has some rather odd collision detection issues though.

>>2366915
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWDXdf5TuSY
I like what they did with the music. Sounds much nicer than the tinny arcade music.

>>2366938
Yeah that's one of the reason I like it better than the arcade, too. Though it came out in 1991 so better music is a given.

MSX SCC version is also awesome.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdhM-LtE9dw
Free Flyer is my favorite track.

>>2363285
I used to call them shooters, but now when you say shooter, most people think of FPS games. Shmup isn't the nicest sounding term, but it does get across the genre of game you're talking about unambiguously so it makes sense and is fine.

>>2369995
Space Ship Shooters.

>>2366876
Welp, time to practice and get past the damned Moai Stage.

Also, for accident I discovered the warp to the Moai Stage playing the Famicom version.

Don't mind me, just being the greatest shmup of all time.

>>2365171
I can't play that game for shit. Other capcom shooters are similar. Everything on screen is so tiny I have to squint to see. The game is fun, and the PS2 port lets you change the sound mix to crank the music way up over the SFX. But give me huge Toaplan ships and bullets instead please.

>>2363672
"Shoo-Ting Game" is not what STG stands for.

STG = Shoot (the) Target Game

>>2363270
>not liking Batsugun most
>liking post-Ketsui CAVE
top pleb

>>2370000
Too long to mutter every time you mention the genre. Shmups is fine. Not the most elegant word, but it fits and isn't easily confused with other genre markers.

>>2370276
Then why did you post a picture of something other than Giares?

So now that I've beaten Gradius, I'm trying to figure out some strats for recovering after I die.
I started with the last stage, since it's been such a problem, and I guess as long as you memorise exactly what to do and how to move, it isn't completely impossible like I thought it was, but it's still really easy to screw things up. So far, I've been able to survive long enough to get missile and double back, which should make things less painful from then on. I'm more worried about the stage 6 boss, and its bullet spam. Dodging all that shit on the fly seems pretty unreliable, unless I can find a safe spot somewhere.

>>2370921
The most important thing is to always have a power up capsule, that way if you die you get a free speed up, and you can build up from there.

>>2371028
True, sometimes if you die and you don't have one, you just have to live long enough to get one and then die to start over. So a death can cost you two lives.

I think I can handle most of the checkpoints in stage 7 now. The second one is probably the hardest with bullets raining down on you the whole way through, thanks to those guys that shoot in rings.

Finally made 700k+ on Metal Black, WR is at 742k so I'm not too far, although it's definitely out of reach for me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zwlc-Xjp3w0

Anyone else love Siter Skain games, such as KAMUI and REFLEX? They're my favourite.

>>2374479
Kamui is fucking brilliant.
it's been a while since I've played RefleX and that's not /vr/

>>2364516
19XX is pretty great. Tons of style and a load of fun.

>>2365171
I'm not a fan of Varth. Feels like a damn slog.

>>2366607
The DonPachi announcer is the best thing in the known universe.

>>2363607
blame England itself for that
like
>Worcester
>Wuhsta
is actually correct and I hate it

>>2363778
>cumup
okay, I giggled

Feels like Shmup forum in here.

>>2374479
Played KAMUI for the first time a while back and loved it, haven't tried REFLEX yet though.

Wait, what's wrong with Donpachi? I fucking love Dodonpachi and it seemed really good from just the first couple of stages.

>>2374479
I'm a big fan.

>>2364252
I fucking love Tyrian 2000. I still play it.
It's the only shoot em up i'm good at and actually beat multiple times on all difficulties.
I keep trying to get better at the genre, I just have trouble with keeping at it. I tried beating Super R-Type...furthest i got is 4th stage ( after many game overs ). I want to get better damn it, I want to beat something other than Tyrian!

>>2364315
Tyrian is fun, anon. Has some decent music too. It may be too easy for people who regularly play shoot em ups, but it's still really fun.

>>2375215
You should give Hydorah a try. It's free, not too difficult, has a lot of levels and allows (very limited) saving.

>>2375228
Hydorah, eh? I'll look it up. I'll play it while havin' some drinks tonight.

Can you guys tell me what game this is from? Thanks.

>>2375475
Judging by the designs it must be a Darius game, I'm not too fond of them except for the awesome music so I can't tell you more than that.

>>2375498
Seems you are right. Maybe from Gaiden. I'm sure with a bit of digging I can find it. Thanks

>>2375475
Darius II.

>>2375971
thank you

Raiden IV on PSN is on sale, so I might as well ask: how is it?

>>2375993

Best Raiden game after II/DX.

If you don't have much experience with the series, a very good place to start.

>>2375993
I don't like it. The graphics are super distracting and the music is weak. I have Raiden 4 and Raiden Fighter Aces on the 360, and I vastly prefer Fighter Aces.

>>2376012
How is it weak? Wasn't most of it pretty much remastered Raiden II music?

>>2363663
>So what kind of a ship do you usually go for?
Straight-shot on first play when learning the game's systems. Good baseline for learning patterns when popcorns are bursting everywhere.
Spread or sway-spread when good enough to play for score. By then enemy patterns are well-known and I can tweak timing to extend combos. Experimental period.
Then back to straight-shot for quick runs. Focused fire tends to take down larger craft faster, just enjoy that kind of play more.

How come N64 never really had shoot 'em ups?

(I think there's one well-known one, and a few JP exclusives).

I can picture it being done well on that console in my head, but I'm no expert on the hardware limitations, maybe it would've sucked.

>>2376312
N64 missed several genres. Development of 2D games was not friendly on that console. I'm sure it could have been done, but it was easier and cheaper (and had a larger install base) on the CD-based consoles, these reasons are well known. That is the answer to every "why wasn't ______ on the N64?"

>>2376312
>>2376316
Any sort of genre that was mainly popular in Japan is not to be found on the N64, which was a hit mainly in North America.

The N64 has way more processing power than the Playstation. The reason there are only a handful of 2d games on the system is because Nintendo didn't let developers make them for it.

>>2376337
Can the N64 hardware do 2d sprite games?

This might be bullshit, but I've heard that it was "too advanced" for proper 2D, and games like "Yoshi's Story" are actually 3D polygons designed to look like 2D.

>>2376345
That doesn't make a whole lot of sense. It doesn't have any specialized hardware for it, but the processor is fast enough to handle any sort of fancy effects.

The only fully 2d game I can think of is Mortal Kombat Trilogy, but that's only because Nintendo mostly forced devs to put 3d stuff in the games. Ogre Battle 64 and Mischief makers are mostly, though not entirely, 2d.

Also, Nintendo's own games are full of sprites. Mario, Zelda 64, and Mario Kart 64 all have tons of them.

>>2376357
As does Paper Mario.

>>2366947
What about the ps1 version? It kinda feels different to both.

>>2376630
Huh? Seems like a very straight port of the arcade game to me.

>>2363279
I call them shmups or shoot-em-ups IRL.

So after playing around with RAM watch a little, it turns out that the rank in Gradius increases on its own just from surviving. It looks like it goes up by 1 every ~32 seconds the player doesn't die. It also increments after each stage, and it's capped at 15. So it turns out limiting your options etc doesn't do a whole lot except leave you underpowered. The best way to do rank control in the first game is to kill yourself.
Then it goes back down to the base level for that difficulty setting, between 0 and 3.

Also +1 for Missile, +1 for each Option you have, and +2 each for Laser and Shield. For some reason having Double doesn't increase the rank. Nor does speed.

>>2363663
Straight, hands down.

>>2363270
The only thing I liked about SaiDaiOuJou is the ability to unlock an AI 2P. Gets less lonely.

>tfw killed by power-up

i decided to pick silver surfer as my first shmup
i have no idea what im doing

Do you guys know if r-type delta is pal optimised?

are there any shmup music based gachimuchi videos on youtube?

The only shmups I've ever played are 2hu and Ikaruga.

I know Ikaruga's supposed to be a classic, but are the 2hus any good? I ask because I have no reference point.

>>2381391
People like to shit on them because of the cancerous fanbase. The scoring systems are usually pretty neat, and I like the thought that goes into making aesthetically pleasing symmetrical patterns rather than just throwing clusterfucks at you. They're often more about predictive dodging than reaction. The bullets are also usually pretty slow. As someone trying to get into Cave, I find the speed of some of those patterns hard to adjust to, even if a lot of it breaks down to 'go left, go right, go left, go right'.

>>2381391
I wouldn't consider 2hu a shmup. It hardly has anything to do with shooting.
It's only about dodging slowly travelling bullet patterns.

>>2381391
Every Touhou game I've played is great. Ignore the fanbase and ignore the people who shit on the games.

>>2381464
Do you consider Ikaruga to be a shmup?

>>2381468
2hu are shmups, but very good ones.
Ikaruga is on a whole different level than these games.

>>2381473
*not very good

>>2381473
I wasn't contesting that point. The guy who deleted his post said
>I wouldn't consider 2hu a shmup. It hardly has anything to do with shooting.
>It's only about dodging slowly travelling bullet patterns.

Which... describes Ikaruga.

>>2381481
Ikaruga has much more emphasis on shooting than 2hu
If you wouldn't enemies there you would often just crash into them.

>>2366613
Thanks for the advice, man. I started trying to casually score in CCWI, and just got my first score that's better than a regular clear.

It's not a big score, but it's the best clear I've ever gotten in an STG so I'm pretty happy.

>>2381391
Touhou games are too hard for me even for survival play and scoring is equally if not more arcane than CAVE depending on the game.

The puzzle STGs are pretty neat, especially the latest one, Impossible Spell Card, which is a lot better than the photography games.

>>2381485
*shoot enemies

>>2381485
I completely agree. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrYvpFUWXyQ

>>2381493
Ok, I forgot about that this is possible there.
But that's also not how you normally play this game.
It is an option to play it like this. This is something totally different than in 2hu.

>>2381504
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EC2K9hbP3e8

>>2381508
Both are bullethells yes, but in Ikaruga it is still a much better mix between dodging and shooting.

>>2381391
Sounds pretty hardcore for your first SHMUPs.

I might try something simpler like a 1940, Gradius, Aero Wings2.

>>2381549
Gradius if we are talking arcade is not simpler. More bullets doesn't = harder game.

>>2381473
>Ikaruga is on a whole different level than these games.
Ikaruga is so violently over rated and i want to know how many of the people who love the game have even played it to a decent level because that game gets barely any attention in the actual shmups community.

>>2373906
Congrats that's quite the feat, nice to see someone actually plays these games around here. Great game to.

>>2381594
I haven't played Ikaruga yet, but I can tell from vids that it isn't overrated at all.
It is clearly one of the best shmups ever created.

>>2366851
Good work man, you'l find gradius 2 a breeze now im sure (if you plan on doing it). 1cced to 2-7 on Gradius gaiden today and 2-4 on Gradius 2 both being pb's and both ending to concentration lapses unfortunately...

>>2381606
>>2381606
>I haven't played Ikaruga yet, but I can tell from vids that it isn't overrated at all.

Proving you judge games solely on aesthetics where as I actually play them extensively before making a conclusion, maybe you'l like it but it's not for me at all... wouldn't even make my top 25. It's literally as famous as it is because it has a simple gimmick that anyone can understand.

>>2381623
Who said I judge games merely on aesthetics?
You also can get grasp of the gameplay without playing it you know.
Not everyone is so retarded to have to play a game for umpteens of hours to finally be able to see if they like it or not.

>>2381486
I thought that ISC was a lot worse than the photo games. My personal favorite is Fairy Wars though.

>>2363382
The first thing I think about when I see STG (regardless of capitalization) is a MP44 so lol.

Concentrated fire or Homing. Spread feels weak, wasteful and distracting.

>>2381696
ffs, meant to reply to >>2363663

Pic unrelated.

>>2363270

Lemme guess:

>Truxton

Because it's a 'meme game' thanks to Classic Game Room?

>the last two on the list

Oh? Do the anime girls trigger your 'WEEBSHIT' knee-jerk reaction? Fuck off back to /v/.

>>2365201

It's more like

>Noo Wahlins

But that's more from the other side of the swamp that thankfully separates that toilet of a "city" from what makes Louisiana good.

>>2381705
is this bait, the image implies he likes daioujou but hates the latest two, which were pretty shit im not gonna lie

>>2381391
best way to answer this is to create your own reference points. check out bulletmagnet's "shmups 101" article in racketboy and scroll down to "developers of note". pick out a couple or three top-rated ones from each dev and play a few credits on each. try a shmup a day; will take a month or so to complete, but afterward you'll have a much better idea of the quality and variety of what's out there.

that's more or less what i did a few years back, although it took a lot more research as as that article didn't exist at the time. coincidentally, the first shmups that hooked me were ikaruga and eosd, but my tastes have changed considerably after putting in a couple thousand hours into the genre.

and toho is a series. some games are good, some aren't so good. more people should try podd, though, that's for sure.

>>2381631
>You also can get grasp of the gameplay without playing it you know.

If you play at a poor level maybe but anything beyond that requires first hand experience.

>>2381795
If you are a complete retard perhaps, yea, which is exactly what you sound like.

>>2381614
I started 2, the crystal stage is being a bit of a shit. I guess it's like the Moai from the first game, it gets much more manageable when you make a consistent route through it.

I did get pretty far in the Famicom port, at least until a certain boss rush, where one of them tried as hard as it possibly could to give me a seizure. I died trying to minimalize my looking at it, and it still made my head hurt for a while afterwards. Some of these older games tend to have that problem. Holy Diver is another game that REALLY wants you to have a seizure.

I've also been playing Gradius III SNES, but the high speed stage kicks my shit in every time. I usually die to the plant boss from losing track of his bullets when they go behind him.
And I can't even get past stage 2 in the arcade one. There's one point where there are just too many bubbles to deal with, and I can't get rid of them in time.

>>2382125
Again you just prove you know nothing about decent level play. No good player ever draws conclusions like you without playing and learning the system to an extent, there are always nuances you just can't see/feel from watching a play on youtube and to call a shmup "one of best of all time" based on a youtube viewing? absolutely ridiculous, you are no player.

>>2382313
>I started 2, the crystal stage is being a bit of a shit.
Use either type 3 or 4 and the ripple laser will hold u in good stead, destroy all the big crystals asap. The crystals are actually programmed to explode into trajectories based on your current position.

>>2382584
Cheers m8, I'll give it some practice.

I'm considering to try for loop 2 in the first game. I was able to scrape through the first stage after some trying, but I can see it taking a ton of memorisation.

Has anyone ever compiled a lot of shmup soundtracks in one convenient dropbox?

I can't get enough of these things, I'm going crazy. Feels like a global rule to have a really great OST, or at the very least something tolerable.

>playing in tate for the first time

>>2381705

He posted Truxton as a game that's only so-so.

He values two weebart games.

I got into the red digits, woohoo. Too bad I died on the final boss, but it's a start.

>>2382587
yeah every gradius ramps up considerably in the 2nd loop, real hard shit.

>>2381141
>silver surfer
Possibly the worst choice for 1st shmup ever. Silver Surfer has a reputation of being difficult to play and frustrating. Difficult to distinguish between foreground and background, no autofire, etc. Drop that shit and try Parodius (SNES).

>>2383050
If something blocks your shot you can't touch it. If your shot goes through it's just part of the background.

But there's still some luck based shit in that game that's probably going to make you mad, and the rest is memorisation and hoping you don't die. I could only beat the 'first' stage. If you die in any of the other ones you're about as fucked as you would be in Gradius, and for similar reasons.

>>2382581
I bet you are one of these retards who buy every shit on Steam only whine about the game in the comments afterwards.
Listen kid, not everyone is so dumb as you. Back then all I had to do was looking at tiny pictures on the backcover of games, and I already knew if I liked them or not.

>>2383195
>looking at the back cover
Looks like somebody's too retarded to judge from cover art

Is Mamorukun any good?

Personally I'm not really into bullethells and girl shooters but it's on sale now. Also, is it really related to old Ikaruga devs as they claim?

>>2383209
Big deal. Back in MY day, we could tell if a game was good or not just from the title.

>>2383195
No i do have alot of 1ccs and decent scores in various shmups though.

>>2383195
>and I already knew if I liked them or not.
Of course because like i already said and you now prove with out any doubt you judge games by aesthetics because you are NO shmup player.

>>2383050

Nah silver surfers rep is almost 100% down to AVGNs retard review and not particularly accurate, it's honestly not that hard a game at all, i'l go as far as saying any shmup player of a semi decent standard can beat it in under 10 hrs.

Best exclusive shoot them ups on the PC Engine? Already played:
>Gradius
>Blazing Lasers
>Truxton
>Air Zonk
Sadly, I don't have any of the CD systems.

What are some easy to get into shooters on Steam and PSN? My current favourite is Reflex, I'm loving that game - it's right on the border of how much I can manage

>>2383530
>you now prove with out any doubt you judge games by aesthetics because you are NO shmup player
And you prove to be a total full retard, who absolutely have no idea about buying games. Must be pretty sad to constantly stand there like dumb not being able to buy anything without having played it first.

>>2373906

Is that the replay that was for this last STG Weekly? If so, great playing and great episode.

>>2383743
Is RayForce on PSN? If yes then get that. Not the easiest game around but it's simple and fun. If not then Dodonpachi.

>>2383743
try Suguri and QP shooting, you can beat each stage individually if Arcade mode is too hard for you
If you like the RefleX mechanic of reflective shielding in particular, try Samidare and Giga Wing

>>2383778
I'd get that just by using the shmupmame pack

>>2381631
>>2382125
>>2383195
>>2383756

Now that is some shitposting.

Shmups can be pretty deep affairs. You can spend months playing the same game, learning it, and refining your play for a high score. Many of the games have lots of subtle mechanics to the scoring or gameplay that aren't apparent unless you've gotten pretty familiar with them.

When I was first starting out, one of the biggest surprises I had was finding out that I was completely awful at predicting the games I really ended up loving. I learned that there was a lot of nuance to STG games, and for many of them you have to play quite a few hours for things to "click" and get the scoring or gameplay systems to make sense. For a lot of shmups, you just have to straight up be good at the games in order to effectively evaluate the gameplay systems; sucking prevents you from scoring, meaning you need some skill in the game in order to even experiment with the higher level mechanics.

That just takes time, and everyone's tastes are different. Some people will find high-level Ikaruga play to be an infuriating exercise in exact repetition and dislike it strongly. Others consider it fascinating puzzle to be worked out that demands the best a player can give, and love the game. The point is, is that you can't figure out which side you sit on until you've actually put in the hours and tried to crack a game.

Can somebody explain to me what's wrong with Dodonpachi Resurrection?

>>2383798
>I was completely awful at predicting the games I really ended up loving
Sucks to be a retard, but not everyone is this dumb.

>>2383878
Go play Hellsinker, come back and explain to me in detail how the scoring works.

What are some good shmups for the following:

NES
SNES
Genesis
PS1

>>2383247
Grev helped tighten up the graphics. Iuchi also made Kokuga while employed by them.

>>2383961
>SNES
>good

But seriously, R-Type III is fantastic. I also like Cotton and whatever that Macross game is.

>>2383891
Stop pirating games, and buy something for a change.
Oh I forgot, you are completely unable to decide what to buy.

>>2363702
Never.
Some guy made a thread on system11 saying he heard from a source that a PS4 version would be announced later this year. In response:
>It was actually planned to be released like... this week. But it's been canceled since this came to light. Good thing too, would've gotten lawyers on them faster than bees to a picnic. The PC version is probably canceled forever now.

>>2383961
PS1 has GradiusGaiden, a Darius Gaiden port and the Raiden Project (only way to play II on console)

>>2383961

>>2383961
Pic related is really cool for PS1. Nothing special but nice sprites and very solid.

Also R-Type Delta of course.

>>2383961
>NES
Recca.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6oB-ytKhVI

>>2384034
It's got some pretty neato music too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KB_PgHXwxLY

>>2384034
I read that like 3 times as "Gundam Seed" and was really confused that there was a PS1 Gundam Seed game...

>>2383050
Silver Surfer is the easiest shmup I think I have played. Definitely the easiest to 1cc.

>>2384007
Fuck man. I wonder if that is the same guy on bemanisows.

>>2370349
Came in the thread to post this.
For shame, OP.

>>2384186
Has something happened since the death of PSun?

>>2384217
psun is still up m8

>>2384220
PSun has had nothing but a splash screen since PWorld died. I did mean PWorld though, so I'll ask again. Has anything happened since the death of PWorld?

>>2384225
As in any new service or anything? No. Seems everyone is now scared of Konami though so I hope Pendual and other Bemani games still get released.

>>2384227
Well then what is
>>2384186
talking about?

>>2384253
That post is talking about DariusBirst AC. Some guy on sows said he cracked it and was going to release it after he cleaned some stuff up. I posted wondering if that was the same guy posting on shmupsforum.

>>2384262
Oh, I didn't think there'd be any discussion of shmups on sows. Mystery solved.

That image sure puts the aspect ratio into perspective. If there was ever a game I'd buy a second monitor for, Dariusburst AC would be it.

>dying on purpose can raise your score

Can you loop R-Type Delta?
I fucking it a good shmup has no loops.

>>2383247
>Mamorukun
>girl

ohhohohoho

It's pretty good if you like the Pocky & Rocky.

What are some of your favorite songs from shmups? I love the name entry song from R-Type.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzZcPfjzflk

>>2384176
And the absurdly long surfboard-shaped hitbox didn't bother you at any point? I find that unusual.

Any other games that have the same I don't know "gamefeel" as U.N. Squadron?

>>2384537
Once you know the hitbox you adapt to it, what's the mystery?

>>2384545
You should try the spiritual sequel, Carrier Airwing.

>>2384515
I'd list Dariusburst songs but they all get taken down from jewtube.
Now that I think about it, my favourite soundtracks are all from non-retro shmups. G-Darius is the only one that comes to mind for me otherwise.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-UR-VfK4io

>>2384515
Gradius III has the best music of the series, imho.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLohFhobgjE

>>2384553
It's awkward as fuck, and some of the gaps the game forces you through are stupidly precise with a hitbox like that. The game is 100% IWBTG-tier memoshit anyway. Enemies take way too long to kill at low power, so you just have to remember how to position yourself the whole way through so they don't fly into you, and most of them have ridiculous movement patterns that aren't easy to remember.

>>2381141
check out gunnac on the nes, it's a quality title that's also easy as fuck

So I've been using shmupmame 2.2 for years, and only got around to checking for a new version. I'm now setting up 4.2, but I cannot for the life of me find any way to change the controls.
Please advise.

>>2384576
Should be under tab menus. It is for me.

>>2384591
Had no idea such a menu existed until now. Cheers.

Well this is shit, turns out most of my old roms don't work with the updated mameshmup version.

Is there some place that has the whole Cave ROM Set? Everything I can find is offline.

>>2384624
Get your roms from retroroms, as for neo geo roms they never show but boot anyway.

Can't we also talk about non-retro shmups here?
On /v/ noone cares about shmups to talk about them.

>>2384897
It'd be nice to include them.
Maybe it'd be better if this thread moved to /vg/. I'm sure you all have a problem with that, though.

>>2384905
>Maybe it'd be better if this thread moved to /vg/
Yea, that really would be awesome imo. Otherwise you just have no way to talk about non-retro shmups here.

>>2363663
I like homing, so I can focus on dodging, but it really depends on the game. Sometimes I go for lasers if the popcorn aren't a threat, but there are tons of hard to kill enemies who like to linger on the screen.

>>2383247
I imported it before it was localized, and it's peculiar for a shmup because you're on the ground walking around and there's obstacles and various paths to take. I wouldn't call it a bullet hell, either. It can get intense, but the screen coverage is somewhere in between. Definitely fun. Multiple characters and modes. The temple stage is bullshit though. Too many stage hazards.

>>2384905
>>2384923
I would love an /stg/ general, we could have scoring tables, weekly games and our own memes, but I doubt it would be active enough to survive on /vg/.

>>2384953
Wasn't there one on /vg/ a few years ago? As I recall, it was terrible and plagued by an infamous tripfag posting hundreds of replies in every thread. This thread is much better by comparison.

What do you guys think of Side Arms? I played it again for the first time in like 20 years, and it's a lot less fun than I remember. The first couple of areas are pretty easy, but once they start spamming you with the centipede things (which are really tedious to kill) it all went to shit. The fact that you continue where you died doesn't help much, since the invincibility period is so short you're almost sure to respawn in the middle of a bullet or enemy. That, and facing that one boss about six times was kind of lame.

>>2384961
I'm new, what's so bad about Tripfags?

There have been generals on /vg/ but they are always dead. There are sometimes shmups generals on /jp/ too.

>>2385118
are you playing the arcade version? play the pc engine one instead, it lets you switch weapons
you might want to check out forgotten realms, battlemania daiginjou, deathsmiles

>>2384940
>game gear games the worst
I'll fight you.
Seriously, what's so bad about them besides the cramped playfield?

>>2385136
I'm ashamed I never played that, I'll have to see how that one plays in comparison.

Also those are good recommendations, I like those a lot (although the renders are kind of creepy in Deathsmiles).

>>2384720
I have them and I'm not helping you, fuck you.

>>2385154
Don't worry fagget, got what I needed.

>>2384897
It's not all bad, there was a whole 10 response thread earlier.

>>2385172
How many of these run half decently?

Why is mame such a shit emulator? The fuck you need different version roms for.

>>2385226
Did a quick check on DDP DF, Mushihime-sama and DeathSmiles. All worked really well for at least the first 4 stages/game.

>>2385127
>/jp/


Shooters threads there are dead due to faggot mods raping the entire board.

>>2385240
I tried mushi, the music starts skipping pretty badly during explosions or lots of bullets, but it could be my computer being too toaster for it.

>>2385260
Is there a Mame version that supports the newer games and has the input latency fixes similar to shmupmame? The ones I've tried have that signature latency which is no fun.

>>2385269
No, from what I hear that's going to be a long time coming.

>>2382592
Shmups forum did this youtube playlist which is pretty good:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLUZn8CCbtsBaAMaU1sMysHZwsUIA67y7e


Has anyone here played Air Gallet? I want to know if it blows your socks off because I'm considering trying it out.

>>2385291
It's good fun m8, very Raiden Fighters-esque

>>2385251
These threads have always seemed better than the ones on /jp/ anyway.

/jp/ shooter threads almost always devolve into CAVEfag-touhoufag shitflinging and "POST YOUR SCORES FAGGOT".

>>2385303
I'm sorry you live in a world where people have different opinions than you. It must be so hard.

>>2385260
I'm on a 2500k@4,3GHz, didn't have audio or fps problems.

Reminder that bullet hells are not real shmups.

shmups/STG's = dubstep
bullet hells/danmakus = brostep

>>2385382
shmups/STG's = Ambient
bullet hells/danmakus = Noise

>>2385384
shmups/STG's = Chamber music
bullet hells/danmakus = Impressionist music

>>2385382
shmups = deep house
danmaku = tech house

>>2385328
I'm not sure what you're talking about. Difference in opinion doesn't bother me, endless shitflinging over stuff that doesn't really matter probably bothers most people.

>>2385296
Just tried it. Of course I haven't played the whole game yet but the first three stages are great and the graphics are beautiful. Thanks for the recommendation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsiIc2Rby0o
why was this port so shit

>>2385382
Yeah, they're better in every way

>>2384897
No. If you use the excuse of /v/ not wanting to talk about something then damn near anything that isn't twitter drama would be allowed here. It sucks but this place shouldn't just be a dumping ground for topics that are hard to discuss on /v/.

>trying to cave
>tfw dying without even realising I was going to get hit

It gets easier right?

>>2384897
you could try cripplecuckchan.

>>2385727
but then you have to deal with people forcing that shit STD meme

>>2384897
very first durrhurrpatchy is retro, just talk about that

>>2385291
I never played it, but I just read on Gazelle's history, they are actually formed by ex-toaplan employers.
So essentially air gallet is another toaplan shooter ie retro CAVE shooter. So you know it's gotta be good.

>>2385723
no

>>2385753
I'm not the biggest big fan of these bullethell shmups.
And playing vertis makes worrisome. I'm always afraid my laptop goes to shit when putting it on the site.

>>2385769
>Gazelle
Wasn't this the name of the studio where many of Irem went? I think it had a similar name.

>>2384897
All the best shmups are retro anyways, so who gives a fuck.

Shmups stay on /vr/.

>>2385778
what the hell do you want to talk about, them?

>>2385784
doesn't seem to be them, that would be either NAZCA or AICOM.

>>2385785
>All the best shmups are retro anyways
I wouldn't say that. I fnd the best shmups are on the PS2.

>>2385789
I would love to talk about R-Type Final for example.

>>2385801
Aside from V, which was a step down from Gaiden to me, what was so great about the PS2 shmups?

>>2385801
that's interesting, because people bring up darius burst, gradius V, contra shattered soldier, ikaruga and r-type final all the time in their respective series threads and no one seemed to bat an eye
I say just talk about whatever and if the janitor deletes your posts don't stress over it

>>2385804
v was still way better than iv

>>2385796
I remember the name now. Granzella was the name of the studio where a lot of Irem went.

They even said in an interview recently that they are actually still interested in making another R-Type game.

>>2385804
I know it gets a lot of flag for its level design/pacing/enemy placements, but I find Final to be pretty awesome.

>>2385818
cool, they seem to be a really young company, I never heard about them.

>>2385775
It's so draining. No matter how long I play I never feel like I'm getting any better.

>>2385854

>>2363279
"STG" is what I have come to prefer after straight up "shoot em up."

it's pure cringe to actually hear someone unironically say "shmup" when talking about these games.

>>2363292
Because he gets to look like a special snowflake for hating on widely used word.

>>2385382
so who are the Burial and Skrillex of STGs and Danmakus respectively

R-Type and Touhou?

>>2385854

Busting through a plateau in anything is hard. You always get to a point where you can't make any progress, or seem to be getting worse. It's really, really hard to get past that.

First off, not shmup but just in general try to make sure you're getting enough sleep/nutrition and some exercise. Basic stuff but it makes a huge difference in motivation, consistency, etc.

Two things really help. First is just to track and log your progress. It's easy to just fire up a game and go, but keeping some sort of brief log and taking a note or two on a replay will give you a ton more insight into where you're really having trouble.

Second is to just try to narrow your focus and aim for small goals every session. Its so easy to get overwhelmed and say something like "stage 4 just murders me", when the real problem might be 3 or 4 specific patterns. If one seems too complicated, you can still make progress in a practice session ("I need to start over here on the screen" or "I need to be moving in this general direction while dodging" for example). Eventually all those little things add up into a whole stage.

It takes a lot of work to 1cc a game, but the feeling of clearing for the first time is indescribable. Just stay consistent, and focus on your one little goal per session. Take notes, especially for full runs, and generally try to not get emotional about stuff. Eventually it does come.

>>2384897
In my opinion everything should go here whats the point splitting such a tiny fanbased in pieces anyway.

>>2386238
Ok, then what is your opinion of R-Type Final? Is it really that bad as many people say?
It gets a flak for its pacing, but I find the game challenging as hell. It's the best shmup imo.

soreyuke burunyanman HARDCORE

>>2385723
It does. You'll learn when enemies shoot, how they shoot, where they come from and how you can take them out quickly. After a while reading the mess of bullets becomes second nature, it's just a matter of sticking with it.

R-Type or R-Type 2?

R-Type seems hopeless but I assume if I give up and go to 2 it will be no more merciful.

>>2386238
Get the fuck out PS2fag, and take your collection of mediocre shmups with you back to /v/.

>>2387342
Sorry faggot, nice try , but I don't play console ports.

>the only shmup i've ever played was Gradius III on the snes

What's a good place for someone to start that can only beat Gradius III because of the slowdown that happens?

>>2387351
jikkyo oshaberi parodius on SNES

>>2387337
R-Type II is harder. R-Type I is actually quite easy for an R-Type game.

>>2385723
The Chump's Guide to CAVE: https://docs.google.com/uc?id=0B8covFKz7cxjYmU1NmZhZmMtMzMzMi00ZjZhLTljOTktZjFlNzdlMzRjZGJl

>>2387337
R-Type II Is a nightmare; don't even attempt it if you're hopeless at the original game. Try III or Delta.

Is it ok to turn a laptop sideways to play verticals or is this rather a bad idea?

>>2387997
>Is it ok to turn a laptop sideways to play verticals or is this rather a bad idea?

Depends on the make of the laptop, but generally they are built to vent heat properly while sitting level.

Does anyone have a rar of shmupmame with all the roms or something because I'm getting pissed off here. I have been trying forever to get all these games working, but it either will not even read that the game is in the rom and when it does it says it's missing files in the rom, like for example. I have Daioujou, and the Black Label, I have both in the folder, but Black Label will not run.

What the hell am I doing wrong? It's pissing me the hell off, and I also have the Dai-Fukkastu roms in there too but those don't even show up in the list. I have no idea what I'm doing wrong, there's like no explanation.

>>2388060
>What the hell am I doing wrong?
Blame the retards who develop mame

>>2388065
I know they run, I've seen them on youtube and people talking about them, I just don't understand why it doesn't even show up. I wish there didn't have to be a damn list, and you could just do file open rom and choose it

>>2388071
Did you audit the games? If not do that. If it wont run or gives an error you might need to find another rom dump or try a different version of mame. Also make sure the rar file are in the rom folder. I can run daioujou on shmupemame4.2

>>2388071
Nevermind, I found out whats wrong. Shmupmame is a piece of shit and everything works in the regular release of mame. What the hell man

>>2363270
I'm once play shmup in NES,the plane is shaped like winged capsule,anyone knows the title?
we could buy a lot of upgrade for it

>>2388096
Fantasy Zone.

The arcade version is superior, go play that.

>>2387354
That game just goes by Parodius right, or is that a different game? Also how hard is it compared to SNES Gradius III?

>>2388060
I fucking already told you dipshit get the roms from retromroms as they're always the most updated and always work in shmupmame.

>>2388071
Don't forget the bios files btw.

>>2385804
Agreed V was honestly overly long and boring I really don't get it's hype. Gaiden allday.

Hey guys, I'm looking to get more into shmups. I've finished Ikaruga, the odd R-type/Darius/parodius and that but mostly console stuff like Mars Matrix (I've burned most of the DC library) and I'm looking to getting into MAME stuff.

Besides recommendations are there any preferred mame emulators, setups and romsets kinda thing? Currently playing DoDonPachi on shmupmame. But I've been enjoying this thread so much I just wanted to say hey.

>>2388071
ur missing universe bios. romsites cant provide them because the company that makes them is still active and holds the copyright
go to the official site and download all of them there, them put them inside neogeo.zip

>>2388308
thanks, i've bookmark that mame site now

I'M A BIG GUY 4 UY

>>2388428
i recommend getting the cheats file from pugsy and placing it in your mame root directory. enable cheats in default game options
depending on the game they might give you invincibility or constant max power ups which might help plan out your routes, they might unlock new ships, modes, stage select, display ranking in yagawa games, and so on

Thoughts on the Rayxanber series?

>>2389000
they are pretty great

>>2388124
>That game just goes by Parodius right, or is that a different game?
What?

>Also how hard is it compared to SNES Gradius III?
Much more forgiving, and you can turn off checkpoint respawns if those things bother you.

>>2388124
there are three parodius sequels on snes:
parodius da!, gokujou parodius and oshaberi parodius

And they are entirely different from each other.

>>2363270
I actually think Daifukkatsu is great. Vanilla is so-so but Black Label is awesome as is Arrange L or whatever that thing was called.

>Not playing a credit of Dangun Feveron every day

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xss2CZv5QTM

>>2389062
shame bl will never be on mame

>>2389079
I have a 360 just for Cave games and Eschatos. Surprisingly they're still expensive as fuck new. I don't know why.

>>2389000
>>2389000
II was meh
III is GOAT

haven't played I yet but I've heard it borders on kusoge quality, anyone know if this is true?

>>2389081
You best have Ginga Force m8

>>2382947
I now got 1.39 trillion with a game over on the last boss just before making it to 1.4. I feel like

I feel like I'm starting to get some sort of hang of scoring, I had my best stage 3 ever with 0.45 trillion points.

>>2389081
I could get a PAL 360 for not much but the J ones on ebay are always too expensive for a poorfag. They're like three times as much, what the fuck.

Then there's plugging the damn thing in without blowing it up.

>>2388428
>I've finished...
You only really finish them if you 1cc them

>>2389197
>tfw you bought muchi muchi pork/pink sweets brands new foe $50 a couple weeks before the price shot up into the hundreds

Guise? can we speak about more modern danmakus?

>>2389017
Worded it very poorly, but i meant to ask if there was just 1 Parodius, which this anon >>2389036
answered

>>2389239
Nigga whaaaaat.
I Pre-Ordered the game from YesAsia (or something like that) for the PO Bonus. Of course I never got it, they send another copy - of course without the PO "yeah to late mate". Was fucking angry because I paid like 60€ back then. Played both MMP / Ibara once, didn't like them. Now I check Ebay and yeah... gotta sell this fast. Why didn't I keep it sealed, I even have a X360 with LT+ FW.
Thanks mate, I could have fucked up selling the game for like 10€.

>>2389269
If you make an STG thread on /v/ or general on /vg/, sure, but they're not /vr/.

>>2389269
go ahead, worst that could happen are your posts getting deleted

>>2389287

I guess I can make it more retro by just asking for a similar retro game.

Deathsmiles, gimme something similar.

>>2389290
battlemania daiginjou, side arms dyne, forgotten realms

>>2389269
No you newfag shit, shmup threads are for manic and traditional shmups, not danmaku.

>>2389290
burai fighter, magical chase

>>2389290
not retro but trouble witches, akai katana, progear

what do you think of this game

>>2389310
I think it's more of a maze and action game, just like ecco.
Only the scrolling stages play like a shmup. Pushing rocks was particularly very annoying and ecco-like.

>>2389310
Beautiful sprite art.

>>2389290
did you know someone cracked deathsmiles 2 to run on windows?

>>2389310
The greatest game starring a hummingbird for the 32X of all time.

Akai Katana and DoDonPachi Saidaioujou on MAME will be released only on 2022.
Thank you and Fuck you Haze!

>>2389531
why? someone could still dump the roms earlier, right?

>>2389531
oh shit, they just added daifukkatsu black label

>>2389531
Is there an official announcement? I don't get it, daifukkatsu black label is a 2010 game.
Also is there an arcade version of pink sweets 1.05 or is it xbox 360 exclusive?

>>2389336

Yes, I was aware, haven't found the dl however, honestly Im just interested in the first one for the moment.

>>2363883
I have heard brawlers and beat 'em ups, but not the others.

>>2389581
if you find me a host i could upload the game for you

>>2389604

Nah thanks, I'm happy with the first one.

>>2389604
i have the game but not the crack. can you up it to mega?

>>2389620
i made a free account, uploading should be done in an hour and half

>>2389632
>>2389620
it's done
https://mega.co.nz/#!9xEhSA6D!E0GifY-OxAeJTK7uYjlOfpKOk1eBFXgBSIgfCK5Tryk
use ds2_config.exe to change keys
game.bat to run
close and open again if graphics glitch out

>>2389768
Thanks m8

>>2363279
Wife calls 'em shumps, which I like, since it's like mispronouncing names on purpose to annoy.

>>2389604
Any chance you could put the game on mega? Unless there's a torrent somewhere I could jump on

>>2389884
Doe your wife like photography?

>>2389953
Oops, I'm a dumbass. Thanks anon, you made my night.

>>2389967
Wink wink, nudge nudge! A nod's as good as a wink to a blind bat, ay? Ay?

>>2381389
pls respond

>>2389967
, he asked him knowingly

reminder that ikaruga is shit.

garbage scoring game

>>2390219
>being a pleb who cant s rank

Is there any way to enable autofire on shmupmame 2.2?

>>2390219
>garbage scoring game


Guess every game ever made with a score counter is piece of shit.

>>2390219
reminder that you are a hipster

>>2390226
a cheap solution would be to put the same button on two different keys, say z and x, then just do the track and field method where you alternate pressing them really fast

>>2390365
This would be even more exhausting. And if I press them together it would just get recognized as one shot.

>>2390387
works for me
whether its recognized as one shot or not depends on the game

>>2390387
btw this is the method that people who play garegga, ibara use
it's where i get the idea from

>>2389083
I is decent for an FM Towns shmup.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqrrDfwMkd8
Quality port

>>2390310
I think he meant that Ikaruga is boring to play for survival, but overly tedious and autistic to play for score. Everything is too static and it relies too much on memorization to execute. It's just not very enjoyable to play for anything, unless you're a casual who's easily impressed by neat art and good music.

Why did Donpachi suddenly go all weeaboo on us in the later games?

>>2390885
cashing in on mushihime's success

>>2390885
Otakus only play danmaku.
What do otakus love?
Anime girls.

>>2390851
i actually find the third stage of urrkurruga with the lasers harder than the third stage of most bullet hells
and yeah it really is a memorization fest
people just like hating on it because it's popular

>>2390897
Dodonpachi is popular too but you don't see people shitting on it like you do with Ikaruga

>>2390893
not even otakus are interested in that shit anymore, they moved on to cellphone games with boat lolis

>>2390902
yes they do, after daioujou there's a lot of controversy with caving casualizing them up by adding autobombs, long ass hypers and the counter rolling back instead of resetting and not carrying on after every stage

>>2390902
>>2390913
i mean, i know a lot of people who would rather play the original on ps1 or daioujou on ps2 than buy a japanese xbox 360 for the latter games

>>2390893
Makes sense but I used to play shmups in general because I liked oldschool video games where you dodge things and blow things up and I do not understand the anime shit at all

Then again I grew up in the 90s where shmups were all futuristic, military, fantasy or cyberpunk themed

>>2390923
everything was better back in the 90s, shmups were a mainstream genre that sold consoles not some niche masochistic ritual for autists
the selling points of the pc engine and the sega genesis were all about their awesome shmup ports from the arcade. That would never happen now.
btw look up the toaplan ports on the genesis, it's cave before they became cave

>>2390929
>niche masochistic ritual for autists
This makes sense

Yeah I know Taoplan, I've played some of their games on MAME. Might give Dogyuun and Batsugun another blast. Do you prefer the original arcade versions of say Truxton or the ports?

also Battle Garegga was like the balance between oldschool and this "bullet hell" shit, that was a beautiful game

Even G-Darius was fairly popular on PSX iirc. ps2 was pretty much the death of that genre aside from nostalgia purposes

(Gradius III and IV as a launch title? wtf were they thinking)

>>2390935
why do people love garegga but never talk about bakraid?

>>2390929
Now that's just an insult to Toaplan. The only Cave-like Toaplan shmups are Batsugun and maybe V-V.

>>2390946
and air gallet

>>2390943
Battle Bakraid was good but Garegga was the first in that particular series of Raizing shmups plus I preferred it's wartorn quasi-steampunk aesthetic compared to Bakraid which seemed a lot lighter in tone

>>2390923
The anime characters are rarely seen in the games, and a lot of 90's shmups like had anime characters piloting the ships, the style was just different because of the time period. I have no idea why people keep making a big deal out of this when it's a non-issue.

>>2390946
their stages go on for too long, you know :^)

>>2390953
Maybe because not everyone is a closeted homo with relationship issues.

>>2390959
ebin

>>2390960
Faggot.

>>2390954
the shark games are literally perfect
slap fight is good too