/vr/ - Retro Games

>>2362470
Master System did very well in Brazil relative to other consoles, so brand loyalty carried over.

>>2362471
Still they didn't gave a shit about Saturn.

>Why are brazilians still so obsessed with Sega Genesis/Mega Drive?
Probably because SEGA wanted the Genesis to be as diversified as possible. Meaning thrown into every market possible.
Nintendo along with most other countries don't mess with monkies and their terrible copyright laws.

Brazil has shit taste.

>>2362497
Funny thing is that Sega didn't made much marketing at Master System era like they did later with Mega Drive. Still Master System got more popular in Brazil and Europe. In Europe because Nintendo did a shitty job at capitalizing the european market.

Extreme poverty.

All I know is that my uncle and older brothers had a Mega Drive and I played a lot, because we all were poor and there was nothing else to do

>>2362524
this and high tariffs on electronics.

go read for like 10 mins about brazil and electronics importation and it will become plainly obvious why they are obsessed with old tech.

For a long time it was basically their only choice. The Brazilian Master System made by Tectoy had a ton of Brazilian exclusives and stayed alive and popular for ages after it had become obsolete everywhere else.

>>2362526
Coulda read books

>>2362567
Not him but that even gets expensive too, unless you have access to a good public libraries like in the US, which I'm guessing is not the case in a lot of places in Brazil.

>>2362567
We're talking about brown people, anon.

>>2362569
I was just being a dick. Honestly, life in Brazil sound pretty fucked unless you're one of the rich ones.

People are not obssessed with Genesis/Master System anymore. Most people don't even know what a MS is.You are all wrong in various aspects. The master system was strongly advertised here in Brazil by Sega and Tectoy. With Tectoy producing it in national level and the launch of brazilian exclusive games, like the great Mônica no Castelo do Dragão, it was a huge success in sales and reception. Life in brazil is not like you imagine. You guys sound like the ignorants on /b/. I tought /vr/ had a better public.

TecToy (AtGames in the USA) manufactured licensed clone Sega consoles within Brazil and therefore avoided the import taxes. There were other clone consoles but since TecToy was actually licensed they were able to have a bigger operation than their competitors in the clone console market. TecToy is STILL manufacturing them to this day and even importing them to the USA as you've probably seen.

>>2362482
Nobody gave a shit about the Saturn except Japan, and barely that.

>>2362597
You know you're on an weeb American image board right?

>>2362567

I played it before I could even read. Besides, my hometown was all ignorant and rural, literally nothing to do but drink beer or harvest coffe (when adult)

>>2362597
>Not obsessed with Genesis anymore
>Tectoy still releasing Mega Drive consoles

>>2362614
Aren't those just modern computer boards with emulators?

>>2362567
Books are for nerds.

>>2362470
Could ask me the same same thing. And ny answer would be; those games are slick as fuck, nigger.

>>2362614
No real mega drive console is still being made, just shitty consoles with various games alredy built in and no cartdrige support. Several similar products like this are made in the US and worlwide, like the Atari Flashback consoles. You don't know what you are talking about and should keep quiet.

>>2362643
Damn you just shot that guy down like the bitch that he is!

>>2362597
Um, this is 4chan, what do you expect? /vr/ still has its fair share of weebs, waifufags, trolls, and random idiots just like every other board on here.

>>2362482
>Still they didn't gave a shit about Saturn.

Because the saturn cost 500 dollars. SMS was cheap as fuck when they got it

>>2362569
>>2362574
Brazilian here. Can confirm. Libraries are hard to come by. Most depend on "donations", which essentially are old-ass books from the fucking 70's or so.
Also, education is shit, from elementary school all the way to college.

>>2362620
>Where do you think you are?

>>2362597
Can you talk/show us that brazilian games and why are they popular?

>>2362839
A place full of nerds for me to bash.

Brazilian here, i don't know what the fuck you are talking about.

No one here except a small group of very loyal sega fans are "obsessed" with the genesis, and most people don't even know what a master system is. This makes absolutely no sense and i don't know where did you get this idea from, it's like asking "why are new zealanders so obsessed with the famicon?"

The console wars is still alive among retro gamers here though, to this day people still argue in groups and forums dedicated to old systems about which is better, snes or genesis.

Tariffs, poverty, marketing.

Also, brazilians are insanely nostalgic about everything. They like to watch and play the same things again and again, like childrens. Brazilians discuss in game forums like if Sega vs Nintendo still was a thing.
Brazilians aren't discovering forgotten gems, but talking about how they loved crap like Altered Beast during their "good times". And due to extreme poverty they see shitty cash-grabs ports, like Mortal Kombat for Master System, as a blessing, because sometimes was the only thing they had to play if they wanted to experienced "new" famous games

But Master System is starting to be forgotten. Kids don't even know what it is, as they're busy playing the new generic FPS of the week. Brazilians love violent and dumb games.

>>2362597
Monica no Castelo do Dragao is a Wonder Boy hack. Sitio do Picapau Amarelo and Castelo Ra-tim-bum are exclusive games, like that awful Woody Woodpecker game.

>>2362528
well sega was actually smart enough to open a factory in brazil so they got around that shit. That's a huge reason right there.

>>2362497
Our copyright laws are the same as everyone else's, we just don't enforce them.

>>2362974
You'd expect big Woody fans such as BRs to do an acceptable job at making a game for him, but noooo. They didn't even include a waterfall level!

>>2363009

>>2362470
Why are Americans so obsessed with NES/SNES?

Market domination.

It's hard to like a platform which doesn't exist in your country, that's why murrikans don't have so much love for TG16 or european computers. But if you are talking about the nowadays TecToy ripoffs from SMS or GEN, I really don't know what they're thinking. People on my age (about 30) know the shitty quality from the products only by seeing, and kids will probably prefer a mobile to play their games as the consoles still kinda expansive in comparison to our minimum wage.

>>2363074
fuck, mauricio!

>>2362497
Nintendo was shitty when it comes to Europe and it's always off-putting to me the amount of fanboyism for them I see on american sites.
I don't think most people here have even heard of Legend of Zelda, for instance.

>>2363552
I've heard that Nintendo even went out of it's way to block people from the UK from importing. That's fucking scummy as hell

>>2363579
Even if you imported you'd be left with the PAL issue.
Clone consoles and Genesis were the only option, and from there most people pretty much jumped on to Playstation, though I know a few people with a Dreamcast.

/br/azilian vidya collector here. The answers are all in this htread already, but let me put it in order:

>Sega licensed their stuff to be made by TecToy
>Without having to deal with import charges, vidya was still expensive, but some of the middle class kids started getting vidya at this point
>Most people only owned the console and one or two games, everyone rented almost everything exclusively
>Sega consoles were the dominating vidya powerhouse in Brazil for a good while, until Playtronic came along and introduced the Nintendo vidya side of things
>Sega already had a good chunk of market loyalty up until the 4th gen
>5th gen hits, nobody is really interested in the Saturn because of no-games and being crazy expensive
>Everyone from that point forward had a N64 and/or Playstation, and became loyal to that brand from that point forward
>Exception to that were the people still clinging to their SMSs and MDs, which became more and more affordable. People could actually buy games for it at this point.

As for why we're obsessed with it:

>Brazilians love vidya
>Brazilians are huge nostalgia-fags, about everything
>Brazilians are obnoxious motherfuckers, which makes it easy to overlap with the Sonic fandom

There isn't much to explain about it, really. There are people who go apeshit over old Nintendo shit like Donkey Kong, but they're in much smaller number around.

There's also a bunch of groups dedicated to retro-vidya. One of my friends from highschool is also a collector, and he belongs to some circles and goes to retro-vidya cons and stuff.

>>2363615
On a side note, the guy I take all my consoles to for fixing and modding is a former TecToy tech support guy. He's been working on vidya since the early '90s. Met him while I was going around every shop in São Paulo, looking for someone who had a Saturn modchip. It was the last shop I was going to check before I gave up and went home. He installed it for me on the spot, and included a region-bypass switch on the reset button.

Too bad current TecToy is a joke. They sell "Mega Drives" and "Master Systems", that are actually just plastic shells with emulation machines on the inside.

I am not sure about the controllers, perhaps they'd work. And the cases don't look so bad, actually.

>>2363647
Are you sure that's an emulation machine and not an all-in-one asic? Sega had one that looked very similar to that one, used in their late Genesis 2 and early Genesis 3 consoles.

>>2363687
I am 100% certain that this is not a variation of the MD's real hardware. Notice how everything is missing, including the CARTDRIGE PORT.

It's an emulation machine.

>>2363692
>Notice how everything is missing, including the CARTDRIGE PORT.

Lack of cart port means nothing. The machine could have a mask rom pre-wired to the pins. As for anything else that is "missing", look at the Genny 3: it's official Sega hardware, and has the full Megadrive in just one ASIC, all it needs is I/O, memory, and a video encoder. Hell, those later 6-in-1 Radica mini-megadrives had all of this, RAM included, shrank down to a single epoxy blob - but it was still running real MD hardware, with a mask rom soldered on to the board.

I'm not saying that that tectoy machine is not an emulation machine, I'm just saying that it might not be one. We'd need higher res shots of the board, or at least the proper names of each chip in there, to be able to tell for sure.

>>2363720
Aren't those Genny 3s incompatible with the 32X and have no port for the Sega CD? I am pretty sure they're not real hardware, even if they're legit Sega hardware.

>>2363552
>Europeans have never heard of Zelda

What the actual fuck am I reading, I live in shithole Bulgaria and every I know knows what zelda is

>>2363734
They are a cut-down cost efficient version of the real hardware. But they are still real hardware. Same way the 1-chip SNES is still a real SNES, etc.

Lack of 32x and Sega CD compatibility just comes from lack of I/o and some design fuckups anyway. 32x compatibility can be re-added, and the same chip was also in some Genny 2s which did have Sega CD compatibility.

See picture: late Genesis 2 boards, using Sega 315-5990, compared to...

>>2363762
>Sega 315-5990
I mean 315-5960, eh. See the chip on the picture.


Compared to VA1 Genesis 3, using the exact same 315-5960 chip. Only the board layout is different, which is what makes the genny 3 incompatible with the Sega CD.

>>2363647
>Mains cable inside the console, so close to the controller ports
Holy fuck, you don't have any security normatives over there, do you?
>>2363687
It's clearly an emulation machine. Just look at the topology of the board: Two ram chips (GOACS don't use external ram chips and SEGA's ASICs only need one ram chip), one ASIC and one crystal. That's it.

>>2363762
>>2363769
Genny 3s are not compatible with all games and peripherals released for the Mega Drive. By result, it is absolutely not original hardware.

If you took a Xbox 360 and made it cheaper while removing Kinect compatibility, it would not be original hardware anymore because it couldn't run 100% of the game's library and its available peripherals. Saying that "We can put stuff back in it and it would work" is not an argument on whether something is original hardware or not.

It doesn't fulfill a basic requirement for being considered original in the first place.

>>2364343
Of course it's not original hardware it's a hardware revision. But it's still real hardware.

Just like every other console which had hardware revisions.