/vr/ - Retro Games

>>2361140
You just posted it.

>>2361140
sure, why not

>>2361140
It's pretty good and I'm annoyed my friend fucking stole it from me.

Took me years to figure out it wasn't just lost.

A CHALLENGER APPEARS!

>>2361223
As an owner of that game, I have to say that 64 is better.

>>2361223
Why is he carrying a bucket of elves?

>>2361248
Doesn't everybody?

>>2361248
Gotta feed the dwarf

>>2361248
Look at them. They're tiny.
Jack can carry them across a longer distance a lot faster than they could ever walk themselves.

What makes the N64 game better than the PS1 game?

>>2361217
My friend swore up and down that I stole her Harvest Moon game, but I didn't, I returned it after she let me borrow a different Harvest Moon game.
How do you know your friend stole it?

>>2361763
The creator of the harvest moon series even said he hated the ps1 version. When they made the SNES version, they didnt have enough time and good enough hardware to fulfill his vision of the game he wanted. When the 64 version was made, he stated that this was exactly what he originally has in his mind and what he wanted to make in the first place for the SNES.

But who care what some Jap thinks right? The PS1 version did some things right like better festivals, ordering shit from the shopping channel, hiring elves to work for you etc. But the whole feel of the game is off, the characters are in different roles, the town is big and the loading times are atrocious so exploring the town is tedious and annoying. Theres a few more things that personally bugged me about it, I arent coming to mind right now, I have played it in some time. Anyway its not a bad game at all, but its no HM64

>>2361763
>>2361140
1. 64
2. Friends of Mineral Town
3. Back to Nature

After all the shitty PS2/GC games I stopped playing. The Rune Factory games were pretty cool though. I heard Harvest Moon DS was pretty good, but I've never played it. Don't know anything about the newer 3DS games.

>>2361789
I agree with the loading times thing, but the personalities and such are just preference. It would have had loading times if it was a direct port of 64 like it was going to be anyway because cartridges are solid-state and CD-roms are not.

Why no love for the original?

>>2361140
Yes. Excellent game.

>>2362513
As >>2361789 said. It was a decent game, but it was almost canceled, got its team reduced from 10 to 3, was missing things the creator wanted to add, etc. The 64 version is pretty much the original vision for the series.

If you simply want a sprite based version of HM then Friends of Mineral Town is great and better than the original as well.

>>2362554
I enjoy the simplicity of the original, though once you get married and your house expanded, etc, it admittedly gets a bit boring. In some of the later games there's just so much shit going on it's overwhelming.

>>2361223
I like the fact that with proper bribes, you can have the elves do all the farmwork for you. I had like 98% of my field tilled at the end of year 1 and those guys continually watered and shipped everything out each day, making me filthy rich.

I don't even really feel bad because really, money loses its value quickly since most of HM is about town interactions.

The newer ones. Harvest Moon is the rare example where games generally got better as time went on.

>>2361140
this is the best one. PS1 game comes right after.

>>2361789
I agree it feels a bit off. And there are a lot more traps in terms of trial and error.

Like if you work too long, you'll end up so exhausted they send him to the hospital.

And some stuff is just fucking bullshit in this game like the small backpack that you can only upgrade once and it still doesn't hold as much as the backpack in the N64 game.

Karen is a completely different person in the PS1 game. Way more mature and balanced.
the moment where she took that NPC with her to go "play in the woods" like they used to as children was fucking weird. not only because it seemed sexual but because they just vanish behind the house and into the woods and you are standing there wondering what the point of that narrative just was. you can't even go after them.

the town is too vast, hard to navigate and looks like a trainwreck.

the mayor is a complete asshole since he tells you right off the bat you need to make this farm florish within 2 (or was it 3?) years or you have to leave and go back to the city.
pretty sure this isn't how property rights work, Mayor, you tribal cocksucker.

>>2362579
>proper bribes

Wasn't just bread? I think almost ever elf loved that

>>2362493
You'd better not be talking shit about Magical Melody.

>>2363195
Yeah Magical Melody was pretty good. I bought Save the Homeland though... Fucking garbage game.

>>2361140
This.

>>2363283
I didnt like save the Homeland either never palyed magical melody because I thought it looked gay.

>>2363314
Save The Homeland is the kind of game that looks cool at first but you very quickly realize its ass. No replayability, cant get married, theres more. In fact the only cool thing about that game at the time was that you could pick from about 6 different horses that you could keep.

Magical Melody is an interesting case. Its actually quite good, despite how "gay" it might look. If you liked HM64 then you will like MM, its very similar in graphics and gameplay, except the story and characters are different. Apart from building a prospering farm, you must find 100 notes within the game to save the goddess. And these notes can be very tricky, such as The Note of standing still for 5 minutes. You wouldnt know to get that unless you went afk and got it by accident!

You can now buy land within the town and grow crops in different areas of the town. There is sort of a Animal Crossing feel to it all; take that however you want to, but all in all MM is worth a try if you are a HM fan, its really quite good.

Hey guys, you forgot. No discussion of non retro games unless it's Mother 3.

>>2363341
LOL well you sold it well.

>>2363341
And I will have to try it.

1. Harvest moon (SNES)
2. Everything else

But then again I have played every Harvest moon except the n64 snd psx ones

>>2363341
yeah that was a lot of fun, it was almost like getting achievements for different things before achievements were a thing but for that game it was necessary get them to beat the game. like catch a certain sized fish etc.

>>2364650
How are DS and Animal Parade?

Story of Seasons

But more /vr/ related, I wager one of the GBC games. 2 and 3 were fun time killers, even now.

>>2361140
They need to make more harvest moon games!

>>2361140
Yep, it just needed a couple of fixes to make the menu system and dumping the harvest into the bin easier. Too many resets due to throwing stuff on the ground instead of in the saddlebags accidentally.

But yeah, you can do whatever you want in this game and still not get a game over technically. I once did the whole two years with nothing but fishing and mining and woodcutting.

I hated raising animals aside from chickens. I loved collecting recipies.

What did you guys do in this game?

>>2364865
One was just fucking released.

>>2361789
That's why Friends of Mineral Town is better.

>>2362827
Flour. Every harvest sprite loved the shit out of flour.

>>2365021

i thought harvest sprites ended up being kinda dumb.

like once every other day u go to give them flour and they do all your shit for you. at that point, manual harvesting and most of animal care becomes inefficient.

i still loved the game but yeah.

n64 is best btw.
followed by snes

>>2362493
The newer harvest moon games on the 3DS try to include animal crossing stuff in them. There was also that minecraft one that I've heard is terrible. Heard the newest one is great though.

>>2365097
>There was also that minecraft one
That's not a Harvest Moon game.
I mean, it is, but it's Natsume's very own Harvest Moon game and not a Bokujou Monogatari game.

>>2365007
I don't like that art style.

>>2365493
What adult has time to play Harvest Moon?

>>2365551
Didn't mean to respond to >>2365493
But yeah, loved these games before I had responsibilities but I cannot fathom how I could afford the time to commit to em now.

>>2365553
If you have enough time to post nonsense on 4chan, you have enough time to play video games.

>>2365016
I was replaying the n64 one, to compare it with my fav FOMT. Some of the reasons I think Fomt is superior are:
> more balanced game speed. In n64 the time just goes WAY faster, you have very little time before it gets dark.
>No tools upgrade. Finding all the cursed tools and blessing them for maximum fermerizm feels good.
> Parades are clock based. If you come to late you gonna miss most of it.
> Moder slavery, have harvest midgets work for weeks on your farm for honey and flower.
>fishing dunno if i am doing something wrong but i cannot catch shit in n64
>graphics don't care that much about this but GBA is still good looking
>harvest goddes as wife. Than again the requirements for marring her are redicules and she is a terrible mother so fuck it.
>this is completely, my personal preference but the fomt priest is way better than the fat child molester.
>basket for crops, were you can put shit load of stuff
The way n64 version has better cut scenes, festivals and more chars. Also to remove the big stones on the farm you dont need the level 3 hammer which is nice, aldough not much of a issue

>>2361763
Better writing.

Harvest Moon 64 is a lot more mature then later HM games.

>>2361140
Is this on Virtual Console?

I played a lot Harvest Moon when i was a child, in the N64, Wii, GB and NDS, and no game as Friends of Mineral town is way good as him.

>>2365751
It really feels that all the mechanics that were meh in n64 have been adressed in GBA, making a overall better experience

>>2361768
Because he stole other shit from my sister, which she found in his house.

>>2361763
It feels more cohesive to me but that might just be because I played it before BtN/FoMT. I know that BtN/FoMT is factually the more robust game but it just feels like some weird fanfic to me and I could honestly do without most of the extra features. No idea why they didn't just create new characters for the game instead of copy and pasting 64's characters, I think I would have liked it more if it were like that.

I do prefer FoMT to BtN though, and I really wish that the HM64 version got remade for mobile.

>>2366103
Harvest Moon 64 of the 3DS would be cool as fuck.

I'll tell you the worst one: Wonderful Life.

>>2365742
Sadly, no. I've been hoping they'll bring it out for the VC soon, but probably won't happen, Anon.

>>2361223
A report for not retro appears!

Is the GBC Harvest Moon worth investing time in?

>>2366834
That movie makes me cry like a bitch every time.

>>2367095
It's a remake of a retro game, Hitler. That's not against the rules, unlike announcing reports.

>>2362493
>shitty gamecube titles
I liked Magical Melody though...

>>2367692
>That's not against the rules,

Yes it is if it's on a non retro platform.

I liked Back to Nature.

Maybe it's just because it's a nice comfy game I can play on my Vita.

I don't know how I'd compare it to 64. Some things are better, some things worse. It has it's flaws, like any other game.

I probably just suck but I think the days in 64 goes too fast. It feels like you don't have time to do anything. I understand it's an element of strategy to the game. But from HM I also want some relaxation along with it as well and it doesn't feel like it has much.

>>2368907
And then you have the other side of the spectrum. A Wonderful Life which the days just drag on for what seems like an eternity, and you find yourself literally going to bed in the afternoon.

>>2361763
Rather than reflecting an idyllic agricultural fantasy, Harvest Moon 64 takes a far more compelling and artist road by emphasizing the subdued realistic qualities of rural life by emphasizes the quiet human struggles of a communal setting in a fashion reminiscent of novels like Haruko's World.

Its a depressed village seemingly trapped in time where every villager has a story of happiness and woe to share. The characters all carry their own hopes, dreams, tragedies, and anxieties that weave together a portrait of the community and perfectly capture the soft-spoken yet very human dramas that surround everyday life. It gives the game a very faintly melancholic personality.

Which in turn is what makes the whole experience so memorable. Learning the different characters stories, engaging in the day to day routines of the village, growing up and getting married, having children, improving your farm, taking part in the festivals, and even solving some of the villages problems, all take on a very special quality that just isn't quite present in any of the other games in the franchise. Back to Nature doesn't feel as mature due to the inferior quality of the characters and setting, and It's a Wonderful life feels too restricted and storybook. The rest of the later games are all overly saccharine idyllic farm fantasies that feel more like a formula than experiences with anything meaningful to share.

When I think of HM64 in particular, I think of that little desolate beach tucked away at the bottom of the steep hill and cliffs and how such a subdued little beach with almost nothing to do could possibly feel so real. If the English translation was better and the game shipped without bugs, I think it would be one of the greatest games of all time.

>>2369028
The perfect example of this of course is the Vineyard and Karen's plot which is by far my favorite side-story in the game.

>>2369049
You just know domestic abuse is going on in that house.

Karen was my first and only waifu

>>2369696
Actually that's not true, my other waifus were Rogue from X-Men Evolution and Caitlin from Caitlin's Way (guess I really liked those troubled girls)

>>2369706
Emotionaly damaged girl five!
>high five

>>2369706
>other waifus

slut!!

>>2369849
Forgive me, I was 10

>>2362697
>the mayor is a complete asshole since he tells you right off the bat you need to make this farm florish within 2 (or was it 3?) years or you have to leave and go back to the city.
>pretty sure this isn't how property rights work, Mayor, you tribal cocksucker.

Well, he just told him if the city-dweller was to become a fat-ass autist lazy fuck browsing /b/ 24/7 instead of working on the farm, they'd have to prey on another would-be slave to work on this big ass farm for a pittance with just 500$ to start.

The farm seems to make up the major part of mineral town's staple diet:

>popuri's mom is too ill to run a proper farm, her husband was fed up with those hillbillies and left, and Popuri is too lazy to work walking all around the town till midnight.
>Barley is too old and her grandchildren are too young; they'd probably leave for another relative in a different town as soon as barley is dead and forget about that place.
>Duke is an alcohol and refuses to waste any of his grapes on sales to customers for the sake of his addiction.
>Gregg cannot work on farms because 1865 and most of the villagers don't seem to like fish.

Their only hope is to palm the farm off to some clueless naive young, and obviously unemployed (maybe homeless), lad who is blackmailed by the villagers, they'd take everything he has recently gotten if he'd be unwilling to have himself enslaved and exploited - his last chance to live a fine life without crime and drugs in the city...at least they need to, because otherwise they'd all starve in their remote little village with no trading route or harbour outside. There are only three children in town and it is on the verge of dying out. The only fun thing you can do is going to a pub alone run by a grumpy old man. You won't meet anybody there and interestingly, they play music at the church all day and all night, while you never hear any in this lonely pub.

This is what Thomas the major was trying to convey to the player.

>>2367626
Not really, unless you have plenty of time to invest and you are really interested in having played every HM game at least once.

Harvest Moon GB actually was my first HM right after GBC release. I used to replay it often as a young teenager, but never thought of it again after I had played 'modern' non-handheld titles such as Back to Nature. There were only two games at that time, the other one on SNES, which I had never played.

It's not like SMB or other titles you enjoy to replay because they are somewhat different with every single part having its own features. Harvest Moon GB is rather like you won't go back to it - an extremely slimmed versions - when you could have (pretty much) the same game in a better version with all the features that should be available in a HM game that isn't in GB:

>You cannot walk around the town, just select a shop
>There is no real socializing, just some short dialogues in the morning after leaving your house, with simples yes/no answers that affect your invisible 'fortune' level that are helpful, but not essential to beat the game (grandpa is a ghost watching you working on your farm and decides every year whether you do a good job or not)
>no natural resources except for three mushrooms in the cave behind your tool shack (why the fuck is there a cave anyway?) - you should not sell them though, but give them to the harvest elves, unless you don't want them to improve your tools and, trust me, you DO want them to improve your tools.
>it's a game boy game so controls are awkward as fuck and you can only carry around two items and once.
>You don't have a backpack; you can only carry one piece of crop at once

These aren't even spoilers. All of these information can be found out right at the beginning of the game and even in the instruction manual.

Work on the farm, till your fields and feed your livestock is the same as in every othe HM games. This gets very tedious though after a short while, because no change.

>>2363308

Oh hey! Didn't see you there. ~moi

Reminder never to play the PS2 version of A Wonderful Life, it has horrible slowdown and ugly textures.

Also, I just saw that this was on PSN and I've never tried it. Is it worth a buy?

>>2372294
No its probably the worst HM there is.

>>2371050
although this all makes sense a lot of sense I was only trying to point out that it's just weird when you compare it to how reality usually works but I know really well that since it's a video game it has its own secluded ruleset, social simulation narrative and what not and so forth.

>>2372294
It's horrible. I hated its geometry. Characters are nice and cute but trees, ground, it all seems like made while saying "meh I guess".
Worst HM game I played so far.

>>2372294
Ignore the haters. It's my favorite HM game because it's the only one besides the original game (barring the GBC pseudoport) that has a time limit and story-driven villager interaction beyond marriage. You can't get married, you just investigate the area looking for something good that will, er, save the homeland. Your farm stats stack after each playthrough, which means there IS a sense of progression while you go through the different scenarios.

Way better tan bullshit like Wonderful Life and at least there's a point to it, unlike stuff like Mineral Town which gets boring after your second year tops.

There's a reason Save the Homeland is the only numbered HM in Japan after 64.

>>2374650
What do you mean by numbered?

I have STH for PS2 but I haven't played it yet. I've been waiting until I have a good week or two where I can sink some time into it and not get distracted and forget what I was doing. How long on average would say I need to invest in it to have a fun playthrough for the first time?

I Hated HM64 because of the Really fast days, so I gave it to a guy on Instagram with the box for free because it was just sitting in my drawer collecting dust and he really wanted it to play.

>>2374683
In Japan:
Bokujō Monogatari = Harvest Moon
Bokujō Monogatari 2 = Harvest Moon 64
Bokujō Monogatari 3: Heart ni Hi o Tsukete = Harvest Moon: Save the Homeland

Everything else = everything else, no numbers.

>How long on average would say I need to invest in it to have a fun playthrough for the first time?
It really depends on how you play it. The game's about a farmland about to become a casino or something unless someone finds something historically or economically relevant enough to preserve it. Once it starts you can do and explore anything you want, and soon you will find various leads as to what may save the land. Just pick the story you feel is the most interesting. You can pick as many as you want, but you have to finish at least one within a year. Days go by not extremely fast but not as annoyingly slow as Wonderful Life. Just try to see if the flow's right for you.

Once you save the homeland once, you can start over with your farm stats intact, letting you tackle more daunting storylines. So it's kinda nonlinear in that way while still having a clear objective. I thought it was a great change of pace to be honest. See if you enjoy it too.

>>2374650
>ignore the haters
Legit HM fans hate STH. It has nice art style, but is boring beyond belief. There are two buildings which I assume is supposed to be the town? Since they are shops. There are other buildings but just where people live. Speaking of those people, they are dull and uninteresting. Oh and theres some QT girls in this game but whatever cuz theres no relationship mechanic like in the other games, just talk to them and thats it, while they repeat themselves. Forget about getting married, if im not mistaken the game is over after the first year. I forget, since I never played it again after the first time, and I regret even that.

The only redeeming thing about STH that I found remotely interesting was that you could do a part time job to earn some money, by taking care of this guys horses, and eventually picking one for yourself. Thats it.

I want to marry karen and have my dog mount her every night

>>2375745
Ann>Karen

I like this better than Harvest Moon DS because I was able to marry my witch waifu without some major bullshit requirements. I played Harvest Moon DS longer though. Haven't like a Harvest moon game since.

>>2375745
Karen really likes men with dogs.

>>2375865
Did you try to marry Harvest goddess FOMT? Her requirements are truly wow....

>>2376089
Shes such a bitch too, you do everything to win her over, eventually marry a goddess! WOW! Then she turns around and says, "well sweetie I have to go now and do my goddess duties, bye!" Leaving you alone to take care of the kid. Talk about a deadbeat mom...

>>2376131
That's pretty much how a relationship with a god works. You get a kid to raise alone who ends up being some of kind of Legendary Hero.

>>2374787
>Legit HM fans hate STH.
>no true scotsman

>There are two buildings which I assume is supposed to be the town? Since they are shops. There are other buildings but just where people live
You mean like every single other Harvest Moon where you have shops and residences?

>those people, they are dull and uninteresting.
Opinions, man, but it's a fact that Save the Homeland features the only cast with actual relevance to the overall story of the game besides marrying. Speaking of...

>Oh and theres some QT girls in this game but whatever cuz theres no relationship mechanic like in the other games,
>muh waifus

That's the entirety of your argument. There's no waifus.

Well sorry, but Harvest Moon is also about farming and in Save the Homeland it's also about finding long lost legends so that your farm isn't turned into a fucking seven eleven. Way more involved that "let's marry some waifu, now she won't do anything for the rest o the game, also there's a baby, and there's no point to it all so let's just bribe elves into working so I don't have to do menial shit over and over."

Save the Homeland is the natural progression from half of SNES Harvest Moon was about. 64 was that other half. And they're both great games.

And way better than shit like Mineral Town which is just waifu: the game. If you want waifus, just play a VN. It'll save you time.

>>2376067
>Cum dripping down legs

Spoiler that shit anon! This is a blue board!

>>2376754
wtf is wrong with you, this is 4chan

>>2376067
i just fapped to this thanks anon.
Got anymore?

>>2374650
>Way better tan bullshit like Wonderful Life
Whoa, I was with you until that part. Fuck you

>>2361763
>comic sans

>>2377093
Wonderful Life is literally nothing Happens: the game (waifuheart and babysoul versions).

>>2376678

>Save the Homeland is the natural progression from half of SNES Harvest Moon was about. 64 was that other half.

I don't see how getting rid of almost every aspect that made the series what is was is "natural progression". In fact its the other way around. Its regressive. Everything that made the series great was cut away to focus on some generic plot shit.

Alright, what's the best way to emulate Harvest Moon 64? I tried project 64 and the sprite quality is utter shit. Wiggly with black bits around the edges.

>>2378454
Whoops, meant to post this image

>>2378352
The only single thing Save the Homeland got rid of was marriage.

The only single thing.

If you think Harvest Moon is a dating sim, then of course you'll feel it's "regressive". But Harvest Moon (SNES) was a game about building up a farm within a time limit, and Harvest Moon 64 was about building up a farm and interacting with villagers. Save the Homeland emphasizes the time limit and ditches dating sim bullshit. Unless you really think that showing your dog to Karen all day long is what "made" the series.

>>2378482
I'm not arguing either way, but does Save the Homeland noticeably expand upon the farming/ranching in any way?

>>2361763
>What makes the N64 game better than the PS1 game?

it's less depressing and more forgiving.
also, that damn river isn't full of garbage when you go fishing like in the PS1 game where the whole ocean is a junkyard.

>>2376976
Nope sorry. It was from a drawthread.

>>2375908
I have a DS and I really enjoy harvest moon but its a shame all the DS games suck dick. I find myself playing FoMT on my PC instead because no Supercard. Sunshine Islands is ok but the whole weather system is retarded

>>2378454
>>2378457
pls respond
I don't want to settle for BTN or FoMT

>>2372294
was it actually this game or the expanded psp remake, leaf valley or whatever?

>>2369559
I don't think locking your daughter in a dark cellar whilst drunk can be interpreted another way

>>2378454
>>2382614
No idea, I'm using P64 myself.
Only advice I can give is.... just play it?
Like, get so immersed into game that you stop noticing it?
I can't really help you.

>>2361763
I think they,re both good. My favorite is 64, but after playing BtN on an emulator, I just can,t go back to the lower quality character portraits and visuals of the 64 version. If only there were a way to have the best of both worlds.

>>2382652
Never mind, I dug around and found a video plugin that looks fine.

It's called "Shunyuan's SoftGraphic 1.5.0"

>>2383920
I was wondering if? PlayStation one has shortcuts like taking items from a bag without going into it. It was in FOMT but not in n64 which is annoying as fuuuucjk