/vr/ - Retro Games

Another of my favorites.

I played the first metroid on NES before this so I shit bricks when this happened.

>>2358294
Yeah, that got me too. I was expecting to nuke a brain in a jar then escape, not have to fight a mutant T-Rex.

Lavos

>>2358286
Kefka easily. Rising above the clouds to fight an insane clown god was pretty mind blowing.

Kool-aid never tasted better

>>2358286
man I was gonna make a thread about FF8 but specifically about the gameplay and the infamous junction system among other stuff... don't wanna start derailing the thread so early so I'll talk about this boss.

First time I finished this game was some days ago, I played VII many years ago, and only some hours of IX; I've played all "tactics" the retro and the others. As climax goes, yeah it puts you in the mood. She surprises you by taking away your junctioned magic, or important ones such as aura, and can basically leave you worthless and prolonging your moment of death if she happens to take your critical ones and you can't compensate with other stuff... like having leveled up stats such as strength and magic and have +60% damage, stuff like that... mixed feelings with the part that she fights the whole party, since the game pushes you all the way in creating 3 profiles to switch between your party members, so the first time you go into the fight, you most likely have 3 naked characters that just go to their deaths... it gives it a certain dramatic touch though lmao...

>>2358308

>>2358309
You just missed a pretty huge one that was around for weeks.

>>2358308
Not /vr/

>>2358318
yeah I saw that thread, but that was something such as "FF8 vs Chrono Cross, which story is the worse".

>>2358298
Cool the first time.
Tedious as fuck any time you replay it.

>>2358323
Ohh no not that thread, there was an FFVIII dedicated thread that 404'd a little while back but that was active for quite a long time. Many interesting discussions were had. It remains a very divisive game, but does have it's fans. Personally I love the junction and draw system. It's just a shame about the story and characters.

>>2358309
Yeah, the meta-game for VIII was really interesting. Probably my favorite game to exploit and dick around with.
Too bad the dropped the ball with pretty much everything else.

>>2358327
damn... well yeah, I had good times and bad times playing the game... some stuff was really tedious and frustrating to do, but other stuff was really cool and fun.

I beat megaman x4 recently on saturn, that final boss was intense as all fucking hell. got to be one of the hardest i've ever beaten

>>2358330
Same here. I always find it odd when people say the systems in that game discouraged using magic, because for me it was the opposite. Between draw casting, collection points and spell pools you don't have junctioned, I used magic more than almost any other FF. Only in FFII where if you have a mage they're literally casting something every round did I use it more often.

I just played ffx and it's boss is shit compaired to 8. Even if ulticema was kind of a shit character, the 4 form's were really good. Each one felt like a large ramp up from the last. The music was great as well. I wish sephoroph had a third stage and was as well done. I'm playing 6 right now and I have pretty high hopes for kefka from what i've read on this board.

>>2358464
Kefka is stupid easy, especially given how powerful you get in VI, but the way the final fight progresses and the music is top notch.

>>2358468
I one shot the last 3 forms of ulticima with irvines limit and one shot both forms in 7 with knights on w-summon so it's ok. I'm not looking up any ultimate weapon stuff this time so i'm sure it'll be harder.

I have another one, the last boss in spyro 1 was awful, super easy. It was just like a chase level. I forget how 2 went, but all the bosses in 3 were pretty good. The ufo thing for the last one was pretty funny and they were all decently hard, at least when I first played them.

>>2358305
Don't forget the incredibly awesome Dancing Mad track that went along with it. Uematsu composed four movements for it! I personally think of it as the best FF song from a technical standpoint. I'd like to hear it recorded with faithful live instrumentation.

>dat dire version of the main theme

>>2358891
>best piece of FF music from a technical standpoint
>not FF6's ending music, or any of FF6's opera tracks

Hm.

The game was utter crap but this boss battle was pretty entertaining.
Probably the only fun part of the game (except for the emulated DK arcade).

Phantasy Star 4.

Just go in without being overleveled and try to beat it with Gryz in the party (or no one).

Epic.

Quake 2.

You literally blow up the top half of the makron to expose the little guy that makes up his legs with a railgun for a face.

Then you shoot him in half.

>>2359046
...You actually liked the boss battle? It was 90% memorization of his attack patterns.

obligatory

>>2359205
>has his own name tattooed on his arm

Guess that's one way to not end up fucked in the head like Cloud.

>>2358891
Check out Distant Worlds. It has a full orchestral version of that song with no stupid looping like on all the youtube vids of the in-game version.

>>2359316
Second volume specifically, my version has both but I forgot they are also available individually.

>Boss: I am Ultimecia
>Emo: Whatever...

>>2358286
looks like ragyo

>>2358286
>FF8 final boss
I just wanted this shit to end already.

>>2358336
>that final boss was intense as all fucking hell
>got to be one of the hardest i've ever beaten
Eh.

https://youtu.be/UyDc1H0GrPw

>>2359610
Thank god Sonic 3 Complete restored it.

Also Sonic Triple Trouble finale.

>>2359205
>blows up entire solar system to drag out the fight and the boss theme just sinks in

HOLY FUCK YOU'RE THE BEST BOSS EVER
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Vw2d3_aEC8

I absolutely ADORE Ultimecia's final form's design, I want fan art and porn of her.

>>2359624
He couldn't blow up the entire solar system if the planet you're fighting on still exists. Also, if he could do that, why even bother with the black materia?

>>2359624
>blows up entire solar system
>with an attack that can't even kill you

I first played ff8 without any metagame or ultimate weapons and that fight was pretty intense.

Cant have a multistage boss thread without mentioning motherfuckering SEVEN FORCE

>>2359624
>>2359828
>>2359854
>attack that destroys our solar system somehow manages hurts people on FFVII's planet "Gaia" which isn't on
>our solar system can be destroyed multiple times
This sure makes a perfect sense.

>>2359624
>>2359828
>>2359854
>attack that destroys our solar system somehow manages hurts people on FFVII's planet "Gaia" which isn't on it
>our solar system can be destroyed multiple times
This sure makes a perfect sense.

>>2359885
Was just playing this today, Eagle Force can go fuck itself.

>>2359868
I usually have the problem of being over leveled for final bosses, but this was one that I wasn't. Enjoyed it a lot but it was pretty tough.

>>2359905
>that image

The best part is that having all characters at max level will make the battle a little harder, since the final boss levels with you.

>>2360820
I believe he also got an extra 80000 health if you used the Knights of Round on Jenova earlier.

>>2360820

>The final boss levels with you

lol

>>2359046
I kind of enjoyed it too. While it was only a chain of minigames and not really a fight, Diddy's and Chunky's parts were kind of fun.

>>2359905
*lvl 99
Capping all your characters in VII permanently renders them immune to L4 Suicide, L4 Break, L2 Frog/Silence(?), and L5 Death, unlike VIII where your ass is fucked at 100.

>>2359905
>FFVII's planet "Gaia"
I don't beleive FF7's planet is ever named.

>>2361010
>>2360987
>>2360820

http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Safer%E2%88%99Sephiroth

An explanation on Sephiroth's final boss stats.

>>2362739
you could junction to make yourself immune to instant death at least

>>2359606
For the longest time I thought the final-boss's name was Dethl, like some sort of fantasy sinister-sounding name which to my young mind sounded cool.

Over a decade later I learn it's a lame pun that I misread due to ambiguous typeface:

Dethl = Deth I = Death Eye GET IT IT'S A BIG EYE

A BIG EYE FOR YOU

This damn fight right here is the epitome of "this isn't even my final form" in any JRPG.

Six generations, and four boss fights with cut scenes after every transition. I remember this fight taking as long as one hour to complete.

>>2359606
The one thing I hated about this fight was that the FINAL form shared the same music as the mini-bosses from the game. Not even the regular bosses, the mini-bosses.

I always thought Omega from Mega Man Zero 3 was bad ass. His first form is big and his attacks are simple. Second form this guy gets even bigger like he takes up half the screen and due to the GBA's limitations they weren't able to program him to do any crazy attacks. His final form is Zero's (the main protagonists original body from the Mega Man X games) which is crazy he goes all over the place trying to cut you down.

http://megaman.wikia.com/wiki/Omega

Pic related its his first form.

>all these RPG bosses
I came here to wiggle my eyebrows at you.
Wiggle my eyebrows and refill my energy meter everytime you think I'm dead.

>>2358327
>>2358330
VIII easily had the best gameplay/system but worst story and characters of the Ps1 era

I still don't think the story was horrible. Just not nearly as good compared to other FF games, and most of the characters were completely pointless.

>>2359624
One theory is that Super Nova is an illusory attack.

The more likely one is that the developers simply didn't think that one through.

>>2363127
In FFVII itself it is only referred as "the planet" but it is retroactively named Gaia when the complation of FFVII stuff came out.

>>2358286

this was the stupidest final boss fight ever.

>ultimecia skill that puts everyone at 1hp
>irvine's final break duration dependent on his hp
>aura allows nonstop final break activation
>irvine fires like 25 9999dmg bullets
>squall nonstop final break
>rinoa heals and revives

>>2363437
non-RPG example. This guy is one of my favorites

[image]https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CAcQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.giantbomb.com%2Fphoenix-gamma%2F3055-4125%2F&ei=2tY6VYydGa3nsATEkYHACA&bvm=bv.91665533,d.cWc&psig=AFQjCNHu4xZfJsSbxwmrGOBmKFX7Lk1VEA&ust=1430005847072983[/image]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SydGBKB5G3c

I think by the fourth time he says IT'S NOT OVAH YET SNAKE it passed from being stupid to being amazing.

>>2364393
You forgot:
>Final form literally cannot die until you eat an apocalypse
>Its completely possible depending on your level and junctions to be able be one shot by Apocalypse, and Grievers Shockwave Pulsar

Doing a low level run I basically had to time using Hero's to be invincible for the shockwave pulsar and apocalypse.

>>2359885
BASED TREASURE

The Alien Soldier one is a pain too.

>>2365005
>FF8
>low level run

>>2363478
>>2358327
>>2363478
>>2364393
>>2365005
>>2365871
I'm gonna make another thread strictly about the gameplay of FF8 cos there are things I want to get off my chest... hope you can join.

>>2365894
>>2365894
>>2365894

>>2363229
>Katsuya Terada Marin

>>2365867
I fucking love alien soldier

>>2359205

>yfw you will never be so metal, your dick becomes an acorn and your ass becomes a plum.

>>2365871
it's the only way to play FF8


>monsters level with you
>junctioning break the game without leveling

>>2363508
Just like all anime attacks they operate on rule of cool and are basically 9001% bullshit.

>>2367048
Yeah but that makes the game easier. I've never actually played FF8 without levelling, I ought to give it a go. I wonder how the flow is with Enc-None permanently equipped.

>>2367453
I hope you like triple triad.

>>2367453
As someone who did his one and only playthrough of it as 'low level' as I could get. It was boring and I wouldn't recommend it. You smash everything, and it isn't difficult at all to get overpowered if you're willing to do some Triple Triad, the most boring minigame in the world, or drawing your ass off. It's completely discouraged me from ever playing the game again.

>>2358286

MEGAMAN 7 (SEVEN) FINAL BOSS.

I still can't dodge those fucking orbs, but the first form is so good, like it just feels very right, you go "yeah, that IS a FUCKING FIRST FORM of Willy", that's how you do it, you know? The second one is good because:
1. Hard as fuck
2. Requires obscure weapon, staying classy
3. This weapon actually requires skill to use it
4. There is an alternative special weapon tactic with damaging via ice cubes and skipping his orbs via lightning sphere - show me other megaman boss whose pattern you can legitimately skip like that, together with responsive animation of him being electrocuted

In MEGAMAN 8 (EIGHT) they kinda stole the idea of this second form and fuck that game in general for having to rely on the dog to heal, instead of just consuming tanks. I'm doing King 3 in MEGAMAN & BASS right now as a matter of fact and that fucking Burnman fucks my arse like I'm some met whore. I tried to use Eddie at least 4 times but every time he would kill me right before the energy orb reaches me.

>>2367461
>>2367489
Why is everyone hellbend on having to play Triple Triad for ages when doing a low level game in FFVIII? I did a low level game few years ago and I didn't spend any time playing triple triad or drawing for magic, I simply refined all the useless you get as drops from enemies to magic instead. To make it even clearer I'm NOT talking about cards but shit like m-stone pieces, fish fins and stuff that you can buy from stores.

Which final boss has most phases?

IIRC the final bosses of Legend of Dragoon and Wild Arms 3 have like 10 forms but I might be wrong as it has been ages since I played either games.

>>2367651
Lavos has a fuckin ton, there's the outer shell and then maybe a dozen forms during the boss rush, and one final.

>>2367651
Estark (from DQ4) has seven different phases, if I remember right.

>>2367489
I only really enjoyed playing FF8 again to see how much I could exploit the broken combat system

>>2367680
That was Necrosaro, anon.

>>2367671
I wanted to disagree with you for some reason, but this is probably the correct answer.

>>2364989
BRUTHA