/vr/ - Retro Games

All the communities of retro online game are basically just browns from 3rd world because the game is free.

>>2355773
that's not true at all with PC games...

>>2355859
You're joking?

>>2355864
no, but you are most likely

>>2355867
What communities are you playing on still?

You haven't heard of worlds.com?

Basically it was a Second Life clone that was semi-popular in the 90s and died off pretty quick, but there's a very small but very dedicated community that keeps shit alive.

It's got some serious Uncanny Valley shit going on in the user generated content though

>>2355952
>gay hummingbird
Yep, that's some weird shit.

>>2355952
>a Second Life clone
but it predates Second Life...It's been around since 1995, second life has only been around since 2003

>>2355773

Are you the same anon that was against piracy and kept calling people "poncho" ?

I remember playing worlds on my Compaq back in 1998. Shit was weird.

>>2355974
I'm not against piracy. Assuming you mean like downloading roms and not stealing a design.
>>2355965
Just because something invented something doesn't mean that invention takes precedent.

>>2355974
haha, are you talking about that same guy that kept on saying piracy didn't exist in the US until recently and that only "brown people and sandniggers in 3rd world countries" did it? I had the same thought when I saw that post.

>>2355952
>tfw a true Metaverse will never exist
>tfw even if it does, people on the Internet are too shit not to fuck it up

>>2355962
I don't know what's real and what's a game anymore

>>2355982
I was in that thread. The guy was talking about bootleg NES cartridges. Which he is right about btw. Americans never really got those nor the clone consoles.

>>2355982

Being such a small community make people stand out.

>>2355979
a clone is a copy of something else, something can not be a copy of something that was made in the future, it's as simple as that. "Precedent" plays not factor here.

>>2355987
yeah, he was technically correct, but he was still a huge douchebag.

>>2356043
>a clone is a copy of something else, something can not be a copy of something that was made in the future, it's as simple as that. "Precedent" plays not factor here.
That's not true. Games are called clone when a specific gameplay or style is used.

Second life is the game that is know to have started that genre.

Similar to Animal crossing. There's the Jap version that came before. But no one cares about that version. People know Animal Crossing not Dōbutsu no Mori.

>>2356050
>Games are called clone when a specific gameplay or style is used.
but only if that game was made after the other game
though I know you are just trolling

>>2356049
Meh. For the this thread having someone from a different part of the world is a big deal. Not being able to communicate can lead to a very bad experience in a game that requires communication.

>>2356053
what does that have to do with the guy from the other thread that we are talking about at all, but that being said, there are other ways to put it than "fucking browns"

>>2356052
It's not trolling. And there are other examples.

Like "WoW clones". WoW didn't invent anything and there are multiple mmos that came before it.

Another example is "CoD clone". Same as above that game did not invent anything.

>>2356057
I'm talking about this thread. I get where someone comes from when they dislike south americans. I believe it's the same as Europeans disliking Russians.

>>2356059
not really, people dislike south americans for racist reasons, well outside of them being annoying in video games. Russians are disliked because they come off as cunts that want the entire world to conform to their backwards politics.

>>2356064
Now you're just picking and choosing what's racist.
If I'm playing an online game I and I see "jajajaja" in the chat I know I'm in for a bad time. I can't communicate with that person and for some reason or another that person queued for an American server. So that leaves me with the opinion that the person is an idiot and doesn't know where South American server is or that person is going to American servers to troll.

You can see where the dislike comes from and it's not based on racism. They guy could be purple for all I know. What's effecting me is he's not speaking English and he has the option of not fucking my game up but chooses not to.

>>2356071
>well outside of them being annoying in video games
read an entire post before you let your jimmies get rustled plz

>>2356080
It goes beyond being annoying in video games.

South Americans have a long history of blaming America for everything. And if they're not blaming America they're blaming Britain for some war that happened like 30 years ago.

>>2356059

The problem is the disliking of a group of people, i don't dislike russians, i dislike asshole and retarded people from russia; and the same goes for all countries.

Probably the oldest game I play where there is an active community is Myth 2. Players literally took over patching and server hosting when the official servers shut down. Pity everyone online is so good that they push my shit it. Still fun to play coop with.

>>2356104
Well if you're Russian or South American and you que on an American server with out speaking English,I throw you into the retard group automatically.

>>2356119

Unless it's a mmorpg (which i don't play) i couldn't care less.

>>2356064
I hate Russians because they're always laggy as shit

>>2355765
>>2356064
Thing is, most Russians playing online on the western servers (especially CS, DOTA and LOL) are 12-17 year olds, that in Russia itself are called "Shkololo" - a degragatory combo of schoolkid and "lol". They are the cunts that like to make life harder to people, and piss people off the most in the netgames (russian community included).

Regular Russian players usually know and speak english, as well as rarely come out as Russian (they usually present themselves as Romanian or Ukrainian) for the fear of being kicked from servers because of the usual racism.

>>2356156
Just because you profile a people doesn't mean you're racist.

>>2356168
Kicking a dude just because he's russian, when he does nothing wrong in the game itself, speaks english, and abide by the rules...
What would I call it?
Oh, yes. Racism.
Unfortunatelly russian players (and russian people) get it a lot when dealing with westerners, all because of the shitty politics of the leaders they didn't chose and vocal minority they can't shut up.

>>2356175
It's not racist. It's profiling.
1. Guy connected from peru
*I know most peru players don't speak english- FACT
*from my experience most peru players are laggy - FACT
*from my experience most peru players aren't that great - Opinion

Based off that I'd kick someone for connecting from Peru.

Would I kick someone for being Peruvian? Probably not. But connected from Peru? As fast as I can get a vote started.

>>2356058
Yeah, but games that came before WoW aren't called WoW clones. Get your brain checked mate.

http://www.deltatao.com/clanlord/index.html

This MMO was apparently launched in 1994 and is still developed and played.

>>2355952
There's no online community anymore, it's all the nexialist and curious people from 4chan.

>>2356186
1)Guy connected from the west
I know most westerners are foolish devotees to consumerism-FACT
*From my experience most westerners are ignorant,obnoxious, arrogant, and rude.
*From my experience most westerners are underage cowadooty kids, are incompetent players,and are thoroughly incapable of teamwork of any sort
*From my experience,players from the west are spoilsports and horrible at losing gracefully,and therefore ruin the game for everyone

Based off that I'd kick someone for being from a western country.

This Profiling business is great fun.

>>2355765
It's a couple years away from being actually retro, but is close and the story is sad enough that it bears telling.

I have a friend who got FFXI on launch day and has been playing ever since. We haven't been able to do anything with him on Tuesdays or Thursdays in over a decade now because that's Dynamis raid night! He spent two years (YEARS) farming for a single pair of boots.

>>2356362
>Based off that I'd kick someone for being from a western country.

Which you're more than welcome to do if you want to. I don't see the problem here.

>>2355765
>ctrl + f "Doom"
>zero results found

FUCKING DOOM!

I'm not sure, but I think that the official Ultima Online is still up and last time I checked (3 years ago) there was still a bunch of people playing. Shit was great, even without the full pvp stuff.

I heard UO Renaissance (an unofficial shard) has a very active community, but I'm trying to find the time to check it out.

heroes 3
diablo 2

I remember playing online in the late 90s, and all the servers were small enough with the same people frequenting them enough that people knew each other. People minded their manners, there was a "community" among people for lack of a better word, and generally you wound up with a reputation as you played. It was all sort of a gentleman's agreement between each other, don't rock the boat, don't shit the place up, everyone's welcome here so long as you're not an asshat.

And then one year, the crowds started rolling in. At first, it was the server browser being popularized, where anyone could quickly and easily jump into a game with just a short search. Suddenly, instead of having a saved or in some cases handwritten list of servers one liked to frequent, people were using server browsers to search for their favorite maps and just joining whenever. There were at first dozens and dozens, and then hundreds, and then thousands, and then tens of thousands of servers available for anyone to join, and with improvements in the infrastructure of the internet and lowering of pings to anywhere, you weren't even limited to the same geographical area, or even the same state. Hell, after a while you weren't even limited to the same continent. People could come and go as they pleased, and if you were kicked from one server, it was easy to find a home somewhere else.

This further broke down once a new sub-culture began to form among denizens of the internet. Suddenly, we were a tiny individual in a massive world, completely insignificant, and we began to notice no matter what our actions were, they were completely without consequence. Instead of having a community like the days of yore, we instead became parasites, a generation bent on sucking up every last bit of fun from others for our own enjoyment, just like locusts in a swarm.

>>2356824
People still formed communities though. You just had to go out of your way a little more, it didn't happen as automatically.

I met people on Tribes and Descent Free Space servers that I still talk to. I met people in Ragnarok Online that I became actual friends with. I think it's more a case that online gaming became more like the real world and at least for me sort of coincided with growing up in general.

As a little kid, my friends were the other kids on my block. We all got along because we didn't have a ton of choice. I started going to school and most of the friends I made were the ones in my class. By the time highschool rolls around you're still making friends with the people around your age, but there are many more and most people gravitated towards groups of like minded people. By the time you're in and then done with university, your pool of friends is probably very diverse.

Online communities went kind of the same way, though for me at least they started later in life.

>>2356860
>>2356824
Not gonna to lie I spend most of my time just trolling in online games.

Not worth it with the amount of browns that join and can't speak English and people that can not take a critique at all.

Like I remember being taught how to bunny hop in quake and being grateful. I learned from it and wasn't an ass.
You tell a modern gamer how to do a technique and you get "quit being salty I'm playing the game how I want" "you're just toxic." "I hope you get cancer" "insert monkey speak here" as the usual responses.

>>2357073
>You tell a modern gamer
The thing is they're being dead serious when they say it
Faggots!

Anyway phantasy star online is still just about alive, the official is ded but the fan servers are around possibly not ded

On multiple platforms also!

>>2357090
schthack's PC servers for ep. 1&2 downloads spyware for their 'anti-cheat' system. I noped the fuck out of their when I saw that.

>>2357196
It's harmless.

>>2357073
I find it really depends on the game. There are games that encourage learning. I will give people tips in Monster Hunter when people ask and they're usually pretty appreciative. But I should note that I do usually wait to be asked or open with something like "can I show you something?"

Fighting games seem to be near the opposite though. On forums there are always people talking about technique and whatnot, but online even when you beat someone there's a good chance they'll call you a shitscrub. Those are the people I blare music over the mic at the next time I get matched with them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nx2JdJhAL94

>>2355765
ESR is full of old people who play quake 3

>>2358259
everyone on the internet is an expert on fighting games, but no one has the time to actually play them

>>2356567
Quake too. There'd be Wolf3D stuff as well if the game and engine just weren't too simplistic for further modification.

>>2357073
Man, assuming you're the same person every time, you come off as extremely jaded. Out of curiosity, what kinds of games have you played that have made you develop this seemingly blanket dislike for people based on where they connect from or (as you seem to enjoy pointing out) what their skin color is?

Also, I find it interesting that when I play online with Russians, they'll often start out randomly calling me 'noob' until I demonstrate I can actually play, at which point they either stop or actually become friendly. They're probably just stupid shit kids, but I find it interesting that you can 'tame the beast', so to speak.

Back onto the topic at hand, there's still servers for old MMOs, like Ultima Online for example.

Red Orchestra 2 is a decent example of a modern game with a good community. Since its a more realistic WW2 game, most of the players are well over 20. A few kids play, and they are either shitheads who get banned, or are actually genuinely nice and want to learn, but at worst just have to be told to speak more quietly so their shrill child voices don't ruin anybody's ears.

I think good FPS games are pretty easy to find matches with, in regards to /vr/. Quake, Doom, Wolfenstein, Tribes, etc. The communities pretty much just keep on modding and living off the fact the games are great from the start, so interest is easier to keep.

Ultima still has shards running.

>>2356186
>It's not being a faggot to people based on where they live, is being an asshat to people based on where they live!
Great logic man, how do you call your dogs, canines?
That a lot of people where I live are huge faggots? yeah, but that applies to USA too, the diference is that they feel entitled to their estupidity.
Kick someone for being laggy? I understand. Kick someone for living on Peru? that's racism, no matter how you put it.

>>2361283
Nice memetext. Did you click on the wrong board?
>>2361259
Think my first experience was WO. That was like 07 or 08. Wasn't anything negative nor was it widespread. Was just a "wow there's a group of people speaking Spanish on an American server for some reason". Never really saw that before then.

I didn't become negative about it till DOTA2. Those motherfuckers are just bad. Just god damn terrible.

A game like TF2 I can tell you is far easier to troll on the RU servers than it is the American servers.

Maybe someone can translate wtf "ctm" means? Maybe "rat"? I see that typed nonstop by the South Americans.

The American players aren't much better now and nobody takes criticism or tips. For example in DOTA2 I remember trying to explain to someone how the instances of damage works and how percentage can't just be added. At some point you just lose faith and troll away.
That kind of shit didn't happen when I was playing Unreal and Quake. At least not on the scale it does today. Even CS 1.6 and source was pretty good overall for learning new things. I don't really know when it went to shit.

And another note wtf happened to pub servers? I remember people didn't tell you to fuck off for playing too well. It's like modern players just want a hugbox for their server now.

>>2361285
>I don't like it, I'll call it a meme! That will show him!
And ctm means "Concha de tu madre", I don't think there is a equivalent swear but it means "Vagina of your mother". It's mostly used by Chilenos.
Also
>Tries to use memes as an argument
>Keeps saying troll and wtf outside a game chat.

>I don't really know when it went to shit.
When faggots like you started to act like entitled faggots.

>>2361295
Ok kid. Here's you go.
I have a server that just banns people connecting from peru.
I'm taking a vacation in Peru.
I connect to my server.
I get banned
My server is racist?

No it's not banning by race it's banning by location.

>>2361304
I know this may seem like a mistery to you, anon-baka, but You could just ban people based on ping
And you are still racist, even if you made an automatic mechanism to do it for you.
Also nice ignoring points and going for run of the mill 4chan insults.

>>2361309
>racist

Its profiling. Peruvians are not a race.

>>2361309
Damn you called me entitled and racist. Guess you win the PC argument. Those buzzwords are too big for me.
>Also nice ignoring points and going for run of the mill 4chan insults.
Coming from the guy using the memetext. I didn't ignore anything. Point out what I ignored?

>I know this may seem like a mistery to you, anon-baka, but You could just ban people based on ping
Yes and that on top of ip range bans is probably the most effective solution.

Oh wait a min. Ip range bans are racist aren't they? Damn probably made by some entitled old white guy...

>>2361315
>"It's not painting, is drawing with oilled pigments!"
>>2361317
>Point out what I ignored?
My first point? Calling something a meme doesn't prove you right, I could call the memes thing a meme. Hell, do you even know the definition of meme? Search memetic on wikipedia, that should elucidate you.
>Yes and that on top of ip range bans is probably the most effective solution.
If you have autoban on high pings all Peruanos that lag would be, take a guess, baned automatically. Adding rangebans is beating a dead horse.

>>2361325
>Adding rangebans is beating a dead horse.
I like a fail safe.

And it's a better system because on a patch day serverd can be extremely laggy so having it just kick for high ping would be problematic.

You seem to think ip range bans are somehow racist. Makes no sense to me since they're just a series a numbers.

>>2361309
>implying anyone here cares about being racist.

>>2356557
I have been enthralled by Final Fantasy XI for years without ever actually playing it. It's like I'm nostalgic for a game I never had the chance to get into at the right time. Does this make any sense to anyone?