/vr/ - Retro Games

AFter your OP pic broke on me

I bought a dualshock 3

>>2332675
For PC, the OP pic and Mad Catz Fight Pad SD, depending on the game.

For Wii, just the wiimote or Classic Controller.

>>2332675
SCPH-1080, charcoal.
Decent controller. I use it for almost everything.
if I need the sticks, I have a DualShock 1 as well, but I don't like the weight it has, and the d-pad on mine feels off compared to the 1080

Are there any controllers with microswitch'd d-pads?

For anything 5th gen or above, OP pic.

For anything pre-5th gen, pic related.

>>2332734
Why is gravis so based?

>>2332675
I own one of these Logitech Rumblepads and it is the worst piece of shit I've ever used. The d-pad is twice as worse as the Xbox 360, it's just a single disc plastic that sinks in if you apply too much pressure near the center.

>>2332734

That seems awful. There's a big, grating hole right where the joint of your thumb would be resting

>>2332740
A little stick screws into it. It's not grating at all it's recessed into the plastic plus machined quite smooth.

Also, why are you putting the joint of your thumb in the center of your d-pad instead of the pad of your thumb?

>>2332675
WiiMote and/or Classic Controller
All my emulators are on the Homebrew channel. I use the Wavebird GameCube controller for N64 VC games and nintendont ISOs

>>2332740
Like on pic related, it probably isn't an issue at all

Genesis 6 button / saturn controller

i get hyperkin 6 button genesis controller, its good enough and cheap as fuck
mine havnt needed to be replaced yet so build quality is good

dualshocks for anything with analog or bumper/triggers

>>2332706
pic related
but its cheap as fuck and will break on you

get a neogeo pad if you can manage to find one

I had two PlaySega! USB saturn controllers for a while, and was very happy with them. From my reading they were on the high-end of inexpensive Saturn usb's (with SLS being the "high end" of expensive Saturn usb pads).

However, recently, I am having a lot of malfunctions with their dpads. Often one of the directions stops working completely.

Now, I've opened them up, did a light cleaning and reset the little rubber thingies, which usually make it work for a while before clonking out again. This is frustrating because when I manipulate the pad itself with the rubber connectors, they function fine - it's only when I close the shell. Anyone have any ideas?

If not I might end up buying some type of Hori pad or a Wii Classic Controller Pro.

This.

A USB keyboard and a Logitech G500 or my notebook's keyboard and touchped depending on where I am.

Saturn USB pad for 2D.
Saturn 3D PAD for 3D.
also, buffalo snes for some case.

>>2332907
>Anyone have any ideas?
switch the inside with a real saturn controller.
best of both world.

xbox 360 controller

the d-pad is butt though

cheap and good for everything.

this fucking piece of garbage

>>2333110
I don't really emulate; does it have problems other than the D-pad?

>>2333138
Not that guy, but I use the 360 wired for everything on my PC that's better with a controller and it's above average. The D pad could use a little work, but mapping the inputs to the stick isn't that rough unless you're completely inaccurate with the stick. It's only a problem with emulation if your a purist, and if you are why the fuck are you emulating?

For retro game without analog sticks, accept no substitutes.

>Virtually identical to SNES
>No need for any special cables or converters.
>Brand new so no deterioration yet!

Arguably a new-quality original SNES controller with a USB cross-over would be better, but these days the vast majority of those controllers that are in circulation have taken some serious abuse. If you're just buying a controller for emulation/ retro style games then there's really no point in buying an ogSNES controller anymore.

>>2333145
>accept no subsitutes
>not a snes controller with adapter
>literally a substitute

PS3 controller with a cheap bluetooth adapter

Besides the cost it it seems like the best all around controller for most emulation.

>>2333150
You implying I should buy a piece of shit old SNES controller that some kid mashed his cheetos in, and then buy a discrete cross-over switch just to play with an SNES controller?

And if I want an SNES controller in *good* condition it's gonna cost more money.

Oooooooooooooooooooor I could just drop 12 bucks on something identical to a new SNES controller, in perfect condition, without having to worry about a cross-over.

>tl;dr ur a shit.

>>2333168
You have the right idea but I think he was pointing out you said
>accept no substitutes
then proceeded to talk about a good substitute.

I'm not sure why I needed to explain that because that is exactly what he said.

>>2333172
But it's not a substitute; but I was saying at this point an iBuffalo is a better choice than a SNES controller for emulation.

If it was a case of "Well if you can't get an SNES controller, get an iBuffalo" then yeah, he'd be right. But a brand new controller costs only a couple bucks more than an adapter, so I'm honestly saying it's a superior choice for someone shopping around.

If you already have SNES controllers, then you're not looking for a new one, substitutes or otherwise.

Just semantics. Though he was being a shithead purist just for the sake of being a purist.

>>2333138
No, but the d-pad is so bad it makes it terrible for retro games.

>>2333143
>The D pad could use a little work
It's an irredeemable piece of trash

>>2333143
>>2333183
The 360 controller is a great *analog* game controller. But the moment you want to use the dpad for anything besides in-game commands and macros it's complete shit.

Kind of pricey but you can get a conversion kit for $15 off ebay and do it yourself if you aren't a retard.

Also some of the emulators I use wont recognize both triggers simultaneously so I use xpadder with an AHK script to make sure its not running when I close the emulator as a work around.

>>2333189
The d-pad is actually so bad it isn't even good for menus.

>>2333189
It's an okay analog controller. More to your point, there are some games that you simply can't play on it, like Ninja Gaiden. It just requires really precise d pad input, so neither a stick nor a crappy d pad will suffice.

>>2333191
That seems so unnecessary or for kids that just LOVE the xbox controller.

Why not just buy a PS3 controller with a much better Dpad, face buttons, and (in my opinion) better stick placement? And you have to use a script?

>>2332734
I had one of those. The D-pad is hyper-sensitive; I remember in every side-scroller I played I'd end up crouching unintentionally all the time.

PS3 controller for 2D games and Xbox 360 controller for 3D games

>>2333202
Gonna be honest dude, I just hate the stick placement on the DualShocks. With a fiery passion. It's grown on me a little bit with the Vita, but something about staggered sticks just clicks for me.

I guess it's just like inverted versus non-inverted...

XBone looks like it solves the DPad issues though.

>>2333202
Yeah it took alot of work but I was going to be using the script for other reasons already so it worked for me.

I like it because it works with so many steam games and stuff without any troubleshooting so if it breaks I can just go get one of a million xbox controllers.

I had a kerfuffle a few years ago with replacing an old logitec. I life very far away from civilization.

this shit, while some stuff is in the mail

>>2332675
my usb saturn controller atm, for several years it was dualshock 2 via mayflash adapter

I was playing some Playstation earlier today, actually. It is really frustrating playing games that don't use the analog stick, because the d-pad is actually only good when compared to the completely disfunctional 360 one. It is weirdly placed and uncomfortable.

>>2332675
Dualshock 3. It's truly wonderful. Still working flawlessly after all these years thanks to all the time and money put into developing it, something you won't see in almost any third party controller. That's the only real problem with third party stuff. They can be comfy, they can come with features, but somehow there's always a build quality issue (doesn't last long, made of cheap crap, or both) because they just don't have the funding.

I've heard the DS4 is even better, but I'm not gonna go out and pay for the difference unless my DS3 starts falling apart.

I like the Xbox controller's general size and shape and the Gamecube's octagonal analog stick, but overall they're not really as nice. I can also understand how people would want to play older games with older controllers, but I'm glad those shitty, old, stiff controllers are gone. It feels way nicer to use a modern pad and buttons even with games from the 80s.

The only thing I really wish my DS3 was better at is playing N64 games just because the N64 controller was weird and nonstandard as fuck. I guess the Sega consoles kinda face that same six-button problem, but I was never a Sega person.

>>2332697
tfw have a brand new never used SPCH1080

Hard mode, all the time.

Kicks ass for After Burner, though.

>>2332675

>>2333312
I've got a collection of third-party controllers, and one of the Gamestop controllers is so cheap it has the analog sticks wired to the d-pad and face buttons. The good news is I get analog support for FFVII, the bad news is if I accidentally hit the right stick sometimes it'll open the menu or skip through dialogue.

Default PS4 controller. Whatever the fuck it's called. Dualshock 4 or whatever.

It was the Xbox 360 controller but PS4 dpad is actually not completely horrible.

I prefer to use the first-party controller for that console. Right now I only have adapters for NES, SNES, and Gamecube though. I pretty much just use whichever one has the least unused buttons for other consoles. I also have a pair of identical third-party PS3 controllers for PS1 and anything else that needs more buttons than the GCN controller, but the buttons are starting to stick.

>>2332675
>Logitech F510
Includes Rumble AND is wired but not sold in USA anymore. The D-Pad is nice but the trigger buttons are fucking stubborn and cramp my fingers in racing games that don't use binary accelation. Thumb sticks are alright.

>Saitek P2500
Dpad is amazing and comfortable for fighting games. For some reason in Windows 7 no game registers any kind of input from the right analog stick when on Windows XP it used to register everything perfectly. The sticks are not bad but it might be something to do with the deadzone that it overthrows some movements sometimes.

>Sony DualShock 2
Got 6 of these babies and feel a lot heavier than DualShock 3 controllers. D-Pads set the standard for me and Analog sticks have perfect deadzones considering how old they are.

>Sony DualShock 3
This is what I use today and I have 4 of these. Better DS3 tool makes the controller versatile since it converts it into a DirectInput, XInput, KB+Mouse and for some reason has a PCSX2 setting. Pretty much the same as DualShock 2 except it's wireless. I recomment using the USB option if playing on PC unless you don't mind recharging at potentially inconvenient times.

>Mad Catz FightPad S.D.
A MAJOR improvement of it's predecessor when it comes to ergonomics. These where made with fighting games in mind so they are not as platformer friendly as they seem or for any game that has a heavy emphasis on horizontal gameplay. D-Pad makes it really easy to execute 360 rotation movements and buttons have nice spacing so you don't press anything by accident. Plays best with Fighting/MAME games when you lay the right side on your lap while holding D-Pad side with other hand[no duh].

>Nvidia Shield Portable [built-in]
D-Pad is comfortable enough for everything BUT fighting games. Convex buttons are nice actually. Sticks, specially for PS1 and PSP emulation, feel awesome. Now I know why Xbox controller users prefer the concave style sticks but the DualShock standard placement is perfectly fine.

>>2333337
>stiff

What are you talking about; the NES controller? The 2600 stick? I mean, sure, but no one uses those to emulate. People like the SNES and Genesis pads, which aren't "stiff" at all.

>>2333689
The two I have are.

But they're also ancient.

>>2333693
My 3 button controller is stiff (though I don't mind this), but neither of my 6 buttons or my SNES controllers are. They are just as responsive as a Dual Shock; but more comfortable. Plus, 3 button is bad for emulating anyway, since it can't really play SNES games.

I had one of those and the sticks had horrible dead zones. I usually use a PS3 or Sega Saturn controller now depending on the game I'm playing. One of these days I'm gonna buy a USB converter for the Xbox huge and try playing through a bunch of random games with a Steel Battalion controller.

>>2333181
>But it's not a substitute

But it is.

>>2333723
in layman's terms it's not good enough complete replacement for the original.

>>2333723
As an outsider who hasn't been a part of the argument, I think this is all a misunderstanding.

When people say "it is a substitute", I think they're saying it relative to an actual SNES controller. In that case, yes it is. And that's what he immediately seems to be implying. But technically, he doesn't actually specify that, so what he meant was likely "accept no substitutes to this particular (third party) controller," (because) "it's almost the same and yet needs no special cables or converters, as well as being brand new, making it superior."

Maybe I'm just being way too generous here because I interpreted it the other way too at first.

>>2333685
>SteelSeries 3GC
It's the equivalent of a Saitek P2500 except a different D-Pad shape and slightly better analog sticks when it comes to movement in 3D games. I don't mess with the turbo mode in these controllers because I've had bad experiences with forgetting I have it on and fucking up settings in menus so no comment on that.

>SteelSeries Free
[not to be confused with the SteelSeries Stratus which I have no experience using]
Not a terrible little controller which I gave away a long time ago. D-Pad can be better. Analog sticks work as intended but have not tried using it in 3D games emulated and native. This entire controller falls under the `it's better than nothing' category when it comes to Android. I remember there was a PC software that would let you change settings but I cannot remember what.

>Nyko Playpad
Got it for my dad since it's cheap and he looses stuff sometimes. Last time I used it the inputs were decent enough. Newer equivalent of SteelSeries Free except analog stick placement and way better D-pad. Can't comment further on it since I only tested it when I set it up.

>Nyko Playpad Pro
They are also cheap and bought 4 of these back before Nvidia released their stand-alone Shield controller. These are amazing for Android gaming even though it took me a while to get used to stick placement. RetroArch picks them up nicely when you set the controllers to EMU. Back when I used these there were no multiplayer-on-single-device android games that I knew of so can't say for sure how good they are for that.

>Nvidia Shield Controller [Stand-alone]
This is pretty much the perfected version of the Portable's build-in controller. Having 4 of these is essential now that Nvidia Grid supports 4 players. A bar below the DualShock family of controllers because of D-Pad but the concave analogs beat the DualShock convex analogs by so much.

All of these controllers work on PC.

Does anybody have any experience with the MOGA controller family?

>>2333145
I use this myself. Feels just like the original controller. Only thing is that I've had to clean it out and rough up the contact pads more than once. If I had a set of original contact pads it'd be perfection.

>>2332675
Rogitek Duar Action

>>2333616
people need to stop posting this

>>2334132
agree

DS3 for almost everything because I like the dpad
Fightstick for anything where it feels good using

I use my keyboard for 2d games, 360 controller for 3d games.

>>2332675
PS2 controller via USB adapter.

>>2332675
That's actually the controller i'm using now. Borrowed it from a friend.

The controller i've had since about 2002 or 2003 is a bit fucked up, the bottom button ( would be B on a SNES controller ) is pretty much pushed in. The right analog stick is fucked ( comes out of place constantly ).
Let's see...it's called "Axis pad colors" or something. Wonder if I can fix the right analog and the b button, it's a nice comfy controller, I really like it.

>>2335317
>Sticky button
Tear apart, clean the button with soap water, wipe down the inside of the button on the shell.
>Analog that pops up on its stick (if that's what you mean)
Superglue or a new tighter joystick cap

>>2335338
it's not that it's sticky, it's pushed in. like, stuck like that, I have to press it pretty hard.
As for the right analog stick i think something might've broke on the inside, I dunno. I'll take it apart tomorrow night maybe and give it a look.

While here, guess i could ask, on my ps2's left analog, there's a little dead spot, think it's the upper-left. Would there be any way to fix that?
Thinking of just getting a new controller anyway, now and then the controller fucks up and i have to take it out and plug it back in.

>>2333616

Last night I tried to play Super Monaco GP with the 360 controller...

> manual shift
> turn left/right
> shift up/down/up/down/up/down/down/up
> mfw

Do all wireless formats for controllers create input delay? Bluetooth/IR/RF/etc...

>>2335403
>wii classic controller pro

It literally does not get better than that. Well, if it had a USB connector instead of the retarded wiichuck proprietary garbage connector it'd be better, but you know what I mean.

>>2333616
>Wii U Pro
>bad
Literally why?
It's so comfy and solid.

Huh.
I thought of getting the Sabrent one. But
>no start/select button

Nowadays I just use my 360 controller with the Xbox adapter thing since it's the actual 360 version and not the for windows version

What's the controller with the most buttons, /vr/? I don't care about quality.
I want AT LEAST a start button, and if possible a select one.
>two bumpers and one trigger on the back, left and right so 3 buttons each
≥two sticks, dpad
>6 to 9 buttons on the pad
>turbo button
Would be literal sex

I want to use a SNES controller for emulation.
are the USB ones good quality? The pictures look accurate but I don't know how they'd feel, you know?

>>2337283
I had one, Retrolink brand
do not buy

It works for my small girl-hands. Also it has that grippy grabby surface.

It serves a purpose. It works alright. Meh.

360 controller for anything analogue, keyboard for everything else. I intend to change that though; it gets confusing as hell on anything with complex controls.

>>2337326
it looks anorexic

>>2333232

XBone d-pad is quite good, it has a nice clicky feel to it like the GBA SP, but with more of a throw.

>>2337283
I have an iBuffalo one. Fucking love it. It could be argued that the D-pad is the tiniest bit sticky, but I think I've broken it in with a couple weeks of use. Same with their Famicom model. I don't own a Famicom, but I have a SNES, so I'm able to compare that one. The OEMs I have and the iBuffalo are equally great, largely because despite whatever differences they have, my OEMs are aged and beaten up. The feeling of new, crisp SNESness in my hands is pretty fucking awesome.

Can any y'all niggaz compare the Cirka SNES controller to the iBuffalo USB one?

>>2332675
I used to rely on a Wii Classic Controller Pro, but I haven't been able to connect it anymore. The d-pad is really good on it. Does anyone know of a USB controller with the same layout and d-pad feel?

>>2335461
Wireless anything inherently means input delay. Technically, even wired things have input delay, but wireless always has even more.

>>2334132
>>2334642
No. It a good infographic.

>>2332675

>>2333498
I remember having a slightly different model of that as my only PC joystick for years (got it in '99 or 2000), came with the computer I got around then. Had the little gameport->USB attachment too.
I tried to play fighting games with it (mine had a POV hat), it was hilariously bad.

really, all I ended up doing with the thing was play YSFlight

>>2332675
It feels bretty gud and the battery life is goddamn amazing. And now that one program is out for it that turns the pro controller into an xinput device on PC, it's been great for me on a lot of games and not just emulators.

>>2338571
Also, both the sticks and the dpad/face buttons are horizontal from each other so it's perfect. I don't understand the reasoning on >>2335403 because it's not even less comfortable. Just think of a reverse dualshock 3 with the ergonomics of the 360 controller and better battery life. It's amazing. I feel like whoever wrote that didn't use it.

>>2338571

The only disadvantage of the Pro controller is that it doesn't have analog triggers, but those are mostly only useful for certain modern games. For retro/emulation it's literally perfect.

>>2333337

>I've heard the DS4 is even better

I use a DS4 for everything

Best gamepad I've used. I hear the Wii U Pro Controller is really good but haven't used it

>>2338679
Functionally DS4 is the best controller, but its construction feels slightly shoddy. Interested to see how it fares in durability.

The high regard for DS3 in that graphic is off-base. Just like any Dualshock prior, you need little nip/girl hands to appreciate it.

>>2333143
The D-pad isn't even adequate for navigating menus. Otherwise the 360 controller is robust, but the out-of-line sticks are annoying for anything where the right stick is as important as the left

>>2332675
The one you posted.

>>2332675
Shit's the best.

>>2337907
Bought 60 RumblePad 2 controllers from CL that I have slowly been able to sell. It's nice that Gang Beast recognizes it immediately. I have also been playing 4-Player PS1 games like Sled Storm, Crash Team Racing and WWF Smackdown! 2. Too bad I never got to play these using a real multi-tap for PS1 but I did for PS2.

the one i can afford

Are the logitech controllers actually good? I got a 360 instead because they looked cheap, but it seems some people here like them.

>>2339846
They have a "floating" d-pad, which is a matter of personal taste. Also, the analog triggers on the Xinput-style pads are strange - it feels like their hinge is in the wrong plane. You need to push downwards (rather than just squeezing) to move them.

(On the plus side, you can crack an Xbox 360 so that it recognizes the Logitech controllers, despite not having the Microsoft-required crypto.)

Depends on what I'm emulating. Generally a SNES USB for retro and a wired X360 for any game with analog controls.

I've tried using a wiimote as a zapper for an arcade shooter too.

Wii classic controller pro + Mayflash adapter.

>>2339873
>I've tried using a wiimote as a zapper for an arcade shooter too.
I tried that exactly once. Never again.

I've never found anything as reliable and precise as a real light gun on a raster display. Even purpose-built stuff like the GunCon 3 is laggy shit.

>>2333616
I wonder if their is one of these charts for cellphones.

>>2333616
>retrolink
>shit

okay, I've never had issues with the ones I have.

>>2333138
it's pretty much the perfect controller aside from the d-pad, but a good d-pad is pretty essential
the xbone controller has a slightly better d-pad, but it's clicky

>>2339873
Is a SNES controller "good enough" for Genesis games? Didn't have a preference either way back in the day, and now it's easier/cheaper to get set up with decent SNES ones on PC

>>2333224
I had the same issue. Fighting games were impossible.

I've been a big fan of pic related for a lot of years. Comes in handy with n64 thanks to the triggers and 6 face buttons.

>>2333202
Dual shock controllers cramp my hands up something awful.

>>2341305
>pic

pig disgusting

>>2341318
Ok

>>2334132
>>2334642
Why? Are you one of those retards who claim the 360 controller is one of the greatest of all time and got offended?

This. Sometimes i use my 360 gamepad with analog, but dpad is more retro, so..

>>2341404
Dpads only came up in 1982. Analog joysticks are older than that.

>>2341305
How much back buttons?

SNES controller with a USB adapter.

>>2341508
Very much.

Oh so very, very much.

>>2341305

I use the Saitek P2500 myself for Sega and N64 emulation.

>>2333685

>>2333110
Am i the only one who actually likes the 360 dpad?

Or maybe im just so accustomed to it that i think i like it

>>2333616
>Do not use motionjoy
Why? I've used it for years now and had zero problems.

>>2342394
It's riddled with adware.

>>2342403
I haven't experienced any unwanted adds while using it.

>>2342394
MotioninJoy has malware (adaware? don't remember specifically what) packaged in with it.
I think BetterDS3 is better too.

I still use my trusty Airflo EX. The only problem it has is a jiggle in the shoulder buttons that accidentally triggers them once in a blue moon, when the stars align just right, but it still works wonders for most everything I play, and when it doesn't, x360ce fools the games into making it work.

>>2333616
What's wrong with etekcity? I think I use that (same controller but w/ a different logo at the top) and it's worked fine for emulating and indie games.

>>2333616
what is the best adapter for Wii pro controller?

should i go wired or wireless?

I have this red Snakebyte controller. A clone PS3 controller that plugs perfectly into my USBs. The handles are a little awkward at first, and the analogs aren't the best, but for most games and emulators, it's pretty good.

>>2342732
Pic related or the Wii U one? This one is wired only, it plugs into a Wii remote. There's a USB adapter by Mayflash. I haven't used one, but I have the Gamecube one and works well.

As for the Wii U one, I'm pretty sure it's wireless only. It connects with Bluetooth, so (unless you already have it) you need a Bluetooth dongle. They're ~$20.

>>2342774
the wii one

>>2342790
http://www.amazon.com/Wii-Classic-Controller-Adapter-PC/dp/B0089O4EB0/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1428887029&sr=8-2&keywords=wii+classic+controller+usb

360 controller for 3D. Buffalo SNES USB for 2D. Arcade stick for fighters

>>2342796
bought
thanks nigga

>>2342805
this, esp Buffalo. Classic D-pad is best D-pad

>>2333337
Why then, have I had two DS3's fail on me on account of Sony's cheap-ass button ribbon, which doesn't even properly "connect", it's just placed on a spoke and propped up against the circuit board?

Sorry, but I couldn't let that comment go by without pointing out modern shab construction. I never had problems with controllers until the PS3.

>>2343423
I'm not sure. I've never heard of that. Mine has been working great since I got it some 5-7ish years ago and hasn't yet showed signs of aging. I haven't been using it everyday or anything though. Older console controller fell apart quickly for me and I never mishandled them or anything.

>>2333337

I second this. Amazing controller and the dualshock is easily on of my favorites of all time.

>>2342406
Doesn't BetterDS3 rely on MotioninJoy being installed, though?

>>2343440
Yes, it does as Better DS3 tool is only a front end.

>>2333145
Are these good? Just ordered one yesterday

>>2333106
>Thrustmaster
Oh boy.

I got a third party PS2 controller. Can I just use an adapter to USB and it'll work?

>>2343664
Yes.

Why there is not a single 360 like controller with 6 buttons?..

Can't be the only one thinking of one..

>>2343734
There's this, but I guess it's more similar to the Dualshock in layout. I don't know if it's any good. I've used the older version and it was shit.

>>2343752

I'm actually thinking of buying an Xbox One one and mod it...

>>2343764
>le cancer man meme
please go

>>2343781

xbone/360 for 3d and nintendo for 2-D.

Simple and it's hard to get better than this

anyone else here use a retrolink gc controller

>>2332736
Agreed. I use a Wii classic for 2d and a dshock 2 for 3d

>>2343453
>generic
Anon...

if you're not using an original Super Famicom controller, what's the point?

>>2344921
>emulating at all
>not just buying the systems
Poorfags gonna poor

I just bought pic related and it's perfect for the WiiU Pro controller.

Very comfy.

>>2345031
I was sort of thinking on getting one

No input problems?

>mfw just bought a F310 and it should be here in a week

So excited to finally play emulators with a controller.

>>2345067
I hated emulators until I got a controller. Then they instantly became better than the actual consoles.

>>2345073
I can't wait to play shit like Ape Escape and Resident Evil with it. Also pretty excited to play Dark Souls with it.

>>2345075
It's not even just an analog thing. The buttons themselves truly feel much more suitable for the application. That's really the worst thing about keyboards.

>>2345082
Yeah I'm really looking forward to actually having an input method that's normal for the console I'm emulating instead of using the keyboard like a pleb. I heard that the F310 is like a marriage of the PS3's mold and the 360's buttons with a better D-Pad then both of them.

>>2345067
>mfw just bought a F310 and it should be here in a wee
im sorry

>>2345086
The DPad is definitely better, but not great. It's super floaty and doesn't feel all that precise.

>>2345082
Best "d-pad" is the arrow keys, but it's the only aspect of keyboards that maps well to console controllers. Buttons are a nightmare, especially if the game uses shoulder buttons.

>>2332675
Dualshock 3, great for all purposes including emulation, requires scpdriver to work on windows, but who the fuck cares?

>>2344975
I knew perfectly what was going to appear when Ii clicked that pic

clicked it anyway

still laffed

Owned this since christmas and it still works.

>>2345219
Mah nigga. I fucking love the dpad on that controller.

>>2345031
mah cracka

What's a good kit to fix the 360 shit tacular dpad? I've been looking at this

http://www.quickdrawmods.com/Transforming-D-Pad-Conversion-Kit-for-all-Xbox-360-Controllers_p_488.html

>>2345342
A new controller.
Even with those mods the d-pad is still pretty much a stick and sucks for anything that requires precise movement.

>>2345367
What's wrong with sticks?

>>2345378
They're imprecise.

>>2345378
They're fine for 3d movement, but in the case of the 360 pad, it's not even a real stick. If you ever had one of those NES attachments that went over the d-pad then you know what I'm talking about.

>>2345067
You will fucking love that controller for ever.

Make sure all your emulators have XInput support which makes it easier to get into the game. Congrats, guy.

>>2343453
No. You should have gone with the iBuffalo variant. I don't know how much you paid for that thing, but I guarantee you'll wish you spent the $12 on the recommended pad.

>>2345056
It maps the Wii U Pro controller to xinput, emulating the 360 controller. Only problem is that it maps ABXY to ABXY despite the different button locations.
Although if you personally map your controls it's not an issue.

>>2339884
I have heard of aimtrack. I haven't used them. So I don't know if there are any good.

http://www.ultimarc.com/aimtrak.html

>>2345067
Just got mine today. Works pretty well, used it to play some MGS.

Why is it so rare to use this controller?

Works for everything (except PS1), D-Pad isn't even inconvenient, feels great, etc etc

>>2348217
The D-pad is in a dumb place & is way too small, the analog shoulder buttons are unnecessary for most games, and the face button layout is a catastrophe.

>>2348217
>Why is it so rare to use this controller?

Because it's substandard for any non-Gamecube game, and even then it isn't always necessarily the best choice for Gamecube games.

It's like asking why people don't use rock hammers in carpentry.

>>2348217
Umm, what sort of games could you use THAT THING for? Older arcades? NES and PCE? DOS?!? Amiga? Really...

>>2333616
>classic controller pro
>above okay tier
the d-pad is a gummy piece of shit only slightly better than the dualshock 2 it's copying

>>2348217
Nonstandard button layout.

>>2348217
I use it for N64 and sometimes Genesis because of the way B A and C are positioned but nothing else besides Gamecube itself. I really like the controller but the button layout just doesn't work for most games. The D-pad is ok for an analog controller but that's not saying much. I use my NES and SNES controllers when I want a good D-pad. Sometimes I use it for PSX for rumble because it's currently the only controller that has rumble support but I'm probably going to end up getting a PS1 controller anyway.

Retcon 5 wireless shittin on these broke niggas

>>2348217
I use that for N64, GC and Wii games. DualShock 2 controller for everything else.

>>2343460

+1 for iBuffallo. Got one super cheap on eBay, and it's been great.

dual shock 2. the vibration doesn't work on it tho, and it actually took me like a year of using it before i realized that.

>>2350119
force feedback is one of the most impotent yet widespread gimmicks in gayming

>>2332675
>F310
Fucking disgusting OP, literally everything that could've gone wrong went wrong with that controller. The fucking Xbox 360 controller is better for emulation than that piece of shit.

>>2333616
>Xbone at the top
>DS4 being higher than the DS3 or DS2

Bought an F-310, it bricked the emulator, almost bricked the entire computer. Returned it that day.

Little sister got me a G-Tron controller for Christmas, it's decent but the d-pad is too sensitive and it'll overwrite L/R inputs with U/D too often for platforming. Dropped the money for a buffalo and never looked back.

>>2350501
The dpad on the F310 is miles better and is actually pretty good. Buttons are a little stiff though.

>>2345067
>>2350501
>>2350615
I've been using an F310 for ages. The buttons are fine, the Dpad can be gotten used to, but I've actually realized in the last year that its huge thumbstick deadzones have been pretty much my main problem in 3D games.

Going from it to a Gamecube controller hooked up through my new mayflash PC/WiiU adapter has felt so fucking good and I didn't even know what I was missing. Racing games, looking controls, 3D platformers, Smash Bros, basically everything that uses even any subtle analog movement in its gameplay suddenly feels MASSIVELY easier.

Thinking of buying a Wii Classic Controller Pro with a USB adapter. But I'd have to pay 40 euros on Amazon. Any other place where I could buy these for cheap?

>>2333145
my nigga

>>2333616
>logitech controllers
>bad

Fucking love my F310 man

>>2345082
Keyboards are wonderful for videogames that are designed for them.

Dualshock 4 for games that mostly use the d-pad, Xbox 360 controller for games that primarily use analog sticks. I use an actual N64 controller with an adapter when emulatimg that cosole, since the N64 layout can be tough to translate to a Playstation-style controller.

>>2348217

>>2348217
>Why is it so rare to use this controller?
I'd probably guess the interface, a lot of people use USB controllers since they already own them and they just have to plug it in. I really should get an adapter, the gamecube controller is really good.

Best controller for PS1 emulation is obviously the best PS1 controller.

Hey /vr/, I have a question that doesn't deserve it's own thread.

I recently bought a dualshock2 + adapter online and I noticed that some buttons don't work (up, left, left triggers...). Upon closer inspection, I noticed that pin number 8 is missing.

Shop claims to test everything they sell (it's second-hand), they are full of shit right? Is this the behavior you would expect from that pin missing or is there a chance it might still be a software problem?

>>2332675
The sticks aren't that bad but the D-Pad is trash. The ability to switch between X and D inputs is pretty good and it has native Steam support. Not a completely shit department-store controller.

>>2356280

Both my Dualshock 2 and the PS1 DS don't have the 8th pin, and they all work normally on the PS1/2 and on the PC through the adapter. The first time I saw the pin was missing was when the pad fells on the ground, I thought it was broken but then I realized it was normal. Maybe your problem is with the controller itself, one of my old DS died and when I opened it up I saw a broken wire inside.

>>2356307

Thanks, that helped. The controller was sent to me with the cord violently wound around it, and some googling revealed that that can damage the wire, especially if it's old.

The wire damage theory would be consistent with the buttons not working, since they are the ones that go first with damaged wire (up on the d-pad, other buttons on the left side).

Will try to screw around with the drivers before I demand a refund and probably buy myself a brand new dualshock2.

>>2356280
Had the same problem
What shop?

>>2356328
Tightly wrapping cords is a terrible idea, and should never be done.

Right now, it's the Hori Fighting Commander 3 Pro, unless I'm playing Robotron 2084, Smash TV, or Total Carnage. For those games, I just use a USB Xbox 360 controller.

>>2332675
Dualshock 3.

>>2348217
handles are ridiculously small and I don't even have hands that big.

>>2332943
What do you personally use for a usb adapter? Im interested in using this controller as well

I am currently using two of these for emulation. They have been working perfectly, no buttons are broken, and they were really cheap. They are actually PS2 controllers but have a usb connector as well. One problem i had was that on the back of the controller is a turbo switch (starts spamming Start when you push it) and you'd end up accidently pushing the button when playing. I solved that by sanding down the turbo buttons, now you don't accidentally hit them while playing any more. On one of the controllers, one analog stick is slightly off-centered and tilted to one side, but still works flawlessly. The D-pad is okay, not god-tier, if you're not used to the controller you may end up going up-right or up-left when you are trying to go just up, for example. But it's not the worst dpad i've used to be honest. Really a good gamepad for the price, would recommend it.

>>2342394
It connects to some weird chinese website which makes you vulnerable to getting malware. From personal experience I can tell you it fucks with your bluetooth drivers and causes BSODs when you unplug a controller.
If you're going to use a Dualshock 3 controller, use this instead of Motionjoy: http://forums.pcsx2.net/Thread-XInput-Wrapper-for-DS3-and-Play-com-USB-Dual-DS2-Controller

>>2333616
>Dualshock 4
>3rd party support
You don't need to install anything to get a DS4 to work with most emulators. It works out of the box. DS4windows and inputmapper are both great tools but you don't really need them.

>>2332676
DualShock 1, 2, or 3

>>2358915
I also use an SCPH-1080 when playing games that don't require analog controls

>>2348217
Weird ABXY button layout that doesn't translate very well to more standard button layouts, tiny ass C-stick while the left stick has a normal size, no select button.

Don't get me wrong. I love that controller. The clacking sounds when using L and R get my dick hard. But you can't really use the controller for anything other than Wii, GC, N64 and SNES games.

>>2343453
I had one of those, after about a week or so, the buttons felt flimsy and some didn't work especially the d-pad, I threw it out and bought my the Buffalo snes controller. Was worth it!

>>2333145
100/10 best controller!

>>2339337

>but its construction feels slightly shoddy

Really? I've never had that problem.

Did you maybe get one of the first run ones? A lot of the initial batch had some issues

I use this. Bought it long ago. Lost it for awhile, then recently found it a few months ago.

It has quite possibly the worst d-pad I've ever used in my life, worse than the 360 pad. But, it works completely fine and I'm too cheap to buy a new controller anytime soon so this will have to do. Analog sticks work good for PS2 emulation and that's what I often play anyway.

>>2343734
http://www.amazon.com/Xbox-360-Pad-EX-Turbo-Black/dp/B002LT9PXQ

>>2332675
My problem is that controllers are always so small and have so few buttons. My non-KBM go to device is the Saitek X45

What is a good controller for ps1 and n64?

>>2362089
ps1 and n64 controllers

>>2333616
>DualShock 4
>better than DualShock 3
This infographic is shit

>>2363358
The DS4 doesn't require malware to work. DS4 is plug-and-play unless if you're after XInput or touchpad support.

>>2363358

I disagree

>>2363596
DS3 doesn't either. OS X natively supports it, wired and wirelessly, including the motion sensitivity.

>>2343752
I own this controller and use it for N64 and Genesis. It works, but dat clunky feel tho...

>>2363605
Seconding this. DS3 is plug-n-play/bluetooth-n-play on OS X (and I imagine other *nix systems).

>>2363605
>>2363649
>osx

You have a bigger problem there.

>>2364392
Nice meme

>>2364398
Nah, it's the truth.

>>2364635
Huh, that's odd because I use it daily and find it to be better than Linux and Windows

>>2364792
Oh, you.

>>2364635
>>2364392
>>2364914
OS X vs. other *nix distros is a matter of legitimate debate. But the superiority of *nix over Windows is obvious.

>>2365075
This

>>2364792

God has smiled on you. Let your light show the others the way.

>>2365089
Wait, so mac users are worse than hitler? I see.

Got my iBuffalos in the mail today. Feel good, work well. Gonna enjoy breaking them in.

>>2361918
It doesn't feel rigid enough, compared to DS3 or the 360 controller. Dunno how much that's down to the specific plastic in use or the way it's put together. The ones I've used were definitely first-run.

>>2365093
No, the blind anti-Apple luddites are.

>>2332675
It probably would be the DS4 but Sony thoroughly fucked the analog sticks. Till I get around to installing DS3 analog sticks in a DS4 I'll stick with the DS3

>>2365125
dude you are the one who posted hitler.

>>2365140
No I'm not, I'm the one the guy who posted Hitler was replying to.

>>2365140
No, I am the one who posted Hitler.

>>2365125
And yes. Anyone who thinks that OS X is inferior to anything is a fool. Fact.

>>2365145
>>2365145
*I'm the guy the guy who posted Hitler was replying to

>>2365147
This I disagree with you on, anon >>2365075 hit the nail on the head

>>2365147

Hell, I'd take OS9 over the completely broken Windows 8 or some shite version of Linux like Ubuntu.

Except for XP...XP was admittedly a good operating system. Puma and Tiger were miles ahead, though.

>>2365125
>No, the blind anti-Apple luddites are.

You have that backwards. Apple is like a cult.

>>2365158
It is, but not everybody who uses their devices is a member. This is a big part that a lot of you fail to understand.

>>2365164
>It is, but not everybody who uses their devices is a member

Just most of them. Also there are tons of reasons not to use apple. Like Deleting Competition's Music and Unwanted/Harmful Downloads.

>>2333616
>DS3 not God Tier
Into the trash it goes.

>>2365167
>Deleting Competition's Music and Unwanted/Harmful Downloads.
What? I've used 10.0-10.5.8 and 10.9.0-10.10.4 and never had any of those issues, nor have I ever heard of them.

>>2365175
http://www.techtimes.com/articles/21551/20141205/unholy-war-apple-secretly-deleted-non-itunes-songs-from-ipod-to-kill-competition.htm

>>2332675

>>2365186
I wish sega would bring back the usb controllers.

>>2333110
>>2333138
>>2333143
>>2333183
>>2333189
>>2339337
>>2333191
the dpad isn't so bad, after you FIX it.

>>2365190
we all do.

>>2365194
Why bother with all the trouble? DualShock controllers fit much better and don't come broken like 360 controllers

Xbox 360.

I like the Dualshock's D-pad more though.

>>2365207
Reminded me of this mod.

Dual Shock 2

A++

>>2365206
>DualShock controllers fit much better
cool story bro. too bad the dualshock1-3 molding is inferior to a 360 controller.

>>2365232
>molding is inferior
The process or the shape? Because the shape is far better and I've never had any issues with DS quality

Well that's it, looks like I'm buying DS3. I already have a 360 pad but I need another controller for emulating and playing DoA versus

>>2333110
>>2333110
>>2333183
>>2333191
So.....what would be so bad about using an Xbone controller? Thats what I use, 20 bucks on amazon. Wish microsoft would make damn wireless drivers for it though.

>>2365246
BOTH, depending on model. sixaxis was a paper thin piece of shit, that easily twisted in your hands. and the circuitry design for the dualshock2 was pure shit. those stupid plastic tracing sheets don't hold up. the classic dualshock molding is not even close to being better, I can't even take someone serious, that thinks it is.

>>2365791
actually they did. they just stopped selling the receiver under their own brand. try "wireless usb receiver", they make them for 360 and One controllers.

>>2332675
Keyboard only for any game ever.

>>2343734
Xfat controllers had six buttons.

I'm extremely fond of this USB Neo-Geo pad. It saddens me that clicky d-pads aren't more popular, they're so satisfying to use.

>>2361965
I have this controller. Goddamn does it suck.
Its uncomfortable, the d pad barely works, and the sticks have huge dead zones.
Its not possible to play any game that requires any sort of precision with it.
Because of that, I mostly just play RPGs.

>>2332675
i use the one you posted for ps1 emulation and a snes controller thru usb for all my other emulators

>>2365928
Oh....neat. Im sick of using micro usb's that fall out during intense moments of gameplay, I actually had to use gorilla tape just so it didnt happen, felt white trash as fuck. Ill get one of those.

>>2332943
Not guy who posted original, but I know of a reputable adapter maker here for not too much.
http://raphnet.com/products/atari2usb/index.php

PS2 controller with USB adapter.

Most games either use exactly or less than the controls the dual shock has. I have a dual shock adapter and controllers but since the ds1 is hard and the ds2 has analog face buttons that require deep pressing to register I've since adopted the wii classic pro with two port adapter for USB. It has good button action and dpad and works pretty much perfectly for most things, I'd prefer a better quality analog sticks but it's still on par with the dual shock 1 & 2. Not many controllers have great sticks, most are merely adequate.

>>2332676
>>2332697
>>2333616
>>2333685
>>2333696
>>2334696
>>2335309
>>2335403
>>2339337
>>2350119
>>2350514
>>2363358
>DualShock d-pad design
Like with every d-pad, you need to get accustomed to its quirks before being comfortable with it.

That said, as a person who plays d-pad intensive games and expects reliability, I'm not satisfied with a DS3 version of the DualShock d-pads.

The reason for that is how inconsistent is its floaty design. As you might know the d-pad in question is actually a molded pad that slides around where it's placed, and it is NOT properly fitted for the controller nor is it fixed in place. That causes a number of annoyances, but most importantly stiffness and an inconsistent feel to the d-pad. Sometimes you will feel a click after each press, sometimes you won't, but the worst situation is when the previously mentioned stiffness occurs due to the plastic pad moving closer to the side.

The DS1 d-pad seems to be different in that regard, but the design is awfully similar, so I would expect similar issues.

Avoid DualShock style d-pads.

Thread reminds me, I need to dick around with Wii U Pro controller drivers and finally go shopping around for an arcade stick for shmups.

Wii U Pro use bluetooth or will I need a dumb adapter?

People using dualshock controllers should be wary.
>>2368415
Think it's proprietary drivers.
Wish it was made to work with PC. One the best controllers I've held.

>>2368421
Buh. Ah well, I'll dick around with it eventually. And yeah, controller's surprisingly good, even though it looks retarded on first glance. The 50000 hour battery life is nice too. (In strange contrast to the 10 minutes you get with the fucking gamepad)

>>2367075
I've had zero issues with the dualshock d-pad. You just sound like a retard. I've literally used the same controller for almost 20 years. Pic related

>>2368429
I always have them connected anyway.

>>2368451
More recently, on my android TV box with retroarch I've used a combination of dualshock 3/4's. Again with no issues. Me and my friends get together and usually play arcade games/goldeneye. Or just you know whatever. No one ever complains even in the more intense games we play. You people are too fucking picky about the dumbest shit.

PlaySega swapped with a real Saturn PAD.

Nothing beats the Nintendo dpads.

except the textured dpads on the 3d controllers

>>2366634
They're not popular because they break in 5 minutes.

>>2347530
I bought into the hype and got one a while back.

If you want to play with an on-screen cursor, it's pretty decent. More responsive than a Wiimote. It's very slightly better than the EMS topgun in terms of sensing, but the recoil and cheaper price of the EMS make it a far better choice for the casual gamer.

If you have any interest in any kind of real fun or accuracy, the only choice is a CRT solution. Using an aimtrak without a cursor is one of the most painful experiences in gaming, it's ridiculously slow and only works when you can adjust for the delay. Because the entire market has abandoned CRTs, and most mame kiddies, it's quite a hassle to get working guns for PC these days. Documentation is incredibly sparse, you just stick shit together and hope it holds together with legacy drivers.

360 for 3d games. It just werks.
Saturn ps2 edition for 2d games. Gotta love that select button.

>>2342805
>not using your arcade stick for arcade 2d

>>2332675

This bad boy.
I was just looking for a not too expensive pad when starting emulate 3D games (for 2D games I have a simple no name "G series 800" pad in nice metallic blue), and now it's grown on me.

>>2368458
>>2368451
You have no argument. You're pretty much saying "I played these few games casually on this controller, and I haven't had problems". AND NEITHER HAD I, THAT ISN'T THE POINT - NOT IN CASUAL PLAYTHROUGHS.

Go back and spend 500 hours on a d-pad intensive game to try and master it. Then you'll KNOW what I'm talking about.

I use a CD-R King USB DualShock here (Philippines company that makes CD-Rs, Gamepads, etc...), works like an actual PS2 DualShock but is so cheap looking and actually not that study. It is still an OK controller though.

WiiU Pro mostly.

I don't emulate often though.

Might buy an iBuffalo

DS4. Literally the best controller ever made.

I don't even own a PS4.

These are my two shitty controllers. The gigaware I bought at radio shack for $29 back in 2010 when i didn't know anything about controllers for pc; it has proven to be functional over the years but the most-pressed buttons are starting to stick. I'm amazed it's lasted as long as it has, it feels really lightweight and cheap in the hand. I bought he Gravis Destroyer for $2 at a thrift store. It feels a lot more solid but unfortunately doesn't have enough buttons for SNES despite appearing to have been made for it. The middle 'button' isn't even a control button of any kind.

So yeah, I want a better controller. There's no controller I love more than PlayStation ones, so which converters are good? Are the chinese converters I see on ebay shit?

I have a report now, do not buy any bootleg Chinese or CD-R King controllers, their analog sticks are prone to breaking, now my CD-R King controller's analog sticks are broken. I only use them to play non-analog games, at least the vibration still works!

Kind of depends on the game.

>>2372229
Dual Shock 3's (and probably 4's, but don't quote me) don't require converters. They have a USB connector for charging, and with 3rd party programs, can be painlessly set up to work.

>>2365232
>>>/v/

How does a PS4 controller compare to a PS3 controller for the PC? I have 4 ps3 controllers and a ps3 which works great with my computer but is the move to a PS4 controller worth it if I don't have or plan on having a PS4?

>>2372952
If you've already got DS3s then you may as well stick with them. DS4s are better, but not that much better.
And DS4 compatibility with PS3 kinda sucks, so you wont be replacing your DS3s there.

>>2373007
>>2372952
I'm really curious what people will think of the ds4 a few years from now. I really don't like it and the pro controller is better for me. I prefer the original dualshock.

>>2332675
had a PS2 style Logitech controller, similar to OP pic but with DirectInput only and no rumble. cord broke and i had to buy a 360-style Thrustmaster controller
any recommendations for a gamepad with decent D-PAD ? i would rather just use the stick on my xbox controller than this god-awful unresponsive D-PAD

>>2333106
mine's pretty similar. I just wish the triggers weren't so awful.

>>2372930
How are the converters, anyway? Just curious. Does a DS1/2 with converter still require a program?

>>2373163
the Mayflash converters and those transparent blue ones don't

well, those transparent blue ones are a bit of a gamble (EXTREMELY variable make, there's like, 4 or so different models that all look the same and behave mostly the same but different), and the cord WILL fray, so solder/tape on a new USB cable ASAP (had mine for over two, maybe three years with a replacement cable and it works fine, it got stepped on but it's still ticking, taped up and all -- bought two more just in case, the cables are shot on them already, I'll pull the cable off of my current one when that box fails and put it on one of the spares)

>>2373173
>>2373163
None of the adapters supply the correct voltage either,

>>2372950
someone's mad. can't handle the truth, huh? too bad. classic dualshock molding is small & awkwardly shaped. sony knew it, and they tried to fix it before ps3 came out. but autistic manbabies like you couldn't handle change. so everyone had to suffer for another 8 years til ps4.

>>2373176
>usb uses 5volts
>rumble needs 9volts
>everything works fine
moot point, really