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cyber waifu, best waifu

>>2332014
More like mistressu.

Hi, I'm a console gamer, can someone explain why this game is so well regarded?

>>2332012
That pic always reminds me of this. And the other way around.

>>2332027
>massive space station, you really feel like you're stuck in actual place
>advanced survival mechanics
>top tier sci-fi/horror writing
>memorable events and enemies
>rpg elements that affect greatly to gameplay
>10/10 soundtrack

It's one of those PC games you just have to play. It's a must have. Being a PC gamer and not playing SS2 or Deus Ex is like owning a NES without Mario and Contra.

>>2332027
It's highly overrated. Play Deus Ex instead.

>>2332343
I actually prefer deus ex.
>>2332027
Because it's incredibly immersive, and because FPS games with lots of exploration are rare. It's also a solid game on top of that.

>>2332350
Prefer SS2 I mean. Deus ex has the writing and atmosphere, but everything else is better in ss2.

>>2332296
I actually found the game far more enjoyable and atmospheric with the music turned off, but agreed otherwise

>>2332343
Play 'em both.

>>2332343
Welcome to /vr/. Retro hype matures over time, therefore everything here is equally "overrated."

Back to your home board with your buzzing now.

>>2332027
Who the fuck cares if you play a console or not?

Actually just started playing this for the first time. Instantly fell in love, a huge refresher playing a game where my over thinking decisions is rewarded.
Atmosphere and story are also a
amazing. Instantly fell in love.

>>2332012
>gameplay:
System Shock 2 > System Shock 1
>everything else
System Shock 1 > System Shock 2

>>2332397
SS2 has far better level design and atmosphere. Those are pretty important too.

>>2332397
>>everything else
>System Shock 1 > System Shock 2

Literally /v/: The Game: The Post

>>2332402
ok, i never played old school ego shooter, like doom or something, so the convulted maps od SS1 felt pretty interesting to me.
as for the atmosphere, i am willing to say, that it can/may depend on wich game you played first. i played ss1 first, a few years ago, and had a blast. ss2 didn't have so many NEW atmosphere elements for me after that. though it had more elements for building atmosphere, i guess.
that dos game felt really lonely and threateneing, and i genuinely felt mocked/scorned by showdown. like breaking the 4th wall levels, of mockery.
like when you execute the mission objectives of level two in the wrong order, and shaudown thanks you for doing in her favour before you see the game over screen.
or when you try opening a locked door/terminal, and a green, poisonous apearing image of shodun appears. on screen without any comment, other than
>the door is locked
and you think you have seen a grin on her face for a short moment, and get goosebumps because that image sort of cought you off guard, even though you saw it the third time.

god, i love that unplayable mess of a game!

>>2332407
say that to my ass and not online, and see what happens.

really, you want to fight me or discuss with me over systsem shock games? have at you! this is a systsem shock thread, and i am here to discuss syststem shock games! i fucking love ss1 and really enjoyed ss2, even though i felt a little underwhelmed by it/ had higher expectations.
you want to tell me why you consider ss2 the bestest game of all? I'm glad to listen, and compare to my reason of gusto. you want to shitpost like the litte cocksucker you are? please go back to /v/

>>2332296
>enemy just waiting for you to check inventory, so he can rape you when you not looking

>>2332412
Agreed, save that i prefer SS1 for everything. Including the cumbersome lack of mouselook.

SS2 is an awesome, amazing game. It stands head an shoulders above it's peers, but it's not as unique and creative as the first game.

>>2333280
Playing SS2 and reading the background story has been inspiring me to pick up the first one and play it. I am a little intimidated by the lack of mouse look. Tried playing my uncles Doom on his PC when I was pretty young and found it frustrating to say the least. Back then I couldn't even beat games I find a breeze now though. But I digress, how hard is it to adapt to not using a mouse when you've gotten so used to one?

>>2333368
It's a little different, especially because it's not like Doom where you shoot just where you're pointing; the on-screen interface is pretty integral part of the gameplay, so you're steering with WSAD and using a mouse pointer to open data logs, interact with objects, and aim/shoot. I really love the control scheme, learning and mastering it was fun in and of itself for me, but it's understandable that some people can't get into it.

But there's a mouselook mod packaged with SSP so you don't need to worry about it if you don't want to.

>>2332412
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>>2333368
>>2333382
Just read the little reference card that comes with SSP and use whatever keys you're the most comfortable with. No need for that mouselook mod. Personally i constantly use ASD, not even XZ and C, so I pretty much play the game with tank controls. It works really well though.

Shodan was awesome, the rest of SS2 was a disappointment though. It's a super easy game with an awful rushed ending. Is SS1 really any better?

I get >>2332343 being deleted because of obvious bait, but >>2332412 was just defending his statement. Didn't even delete the guy who said /v/: the post or the copypasta response.

Is the current janny on a power trip, or just new and retarded? Anyway back on topic.

>>2333909
You'll probably like SS1. Different feel though.

I'm about to try this for the first time ever.

I've read some tiny hints of what is and isn't essential in character progression and so on.

I was wondering how difficult the game is on Normal setting? Is it too easy? I've played games like stalker, metro and such on the hardest from the get go.

>>2333909
I felt somewhat disappointed by SS2, and SS1 is in my top 5 favorite games. I felt that there was too much stress placed on becoming a living god through cybermodules and not enough on tight, compact, and well-designed levels.

Google System Shock portable. It's a packaged DOSBox version with an optional mouselook mod

Gonna toot my own horn a bit, but as far as I know I'm the speedrun WR holder for System Shock I'm also the only serious runner. If you've ever wondered what the game looks like played quickly with default controls and difficulty, here's a link to my PB
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zr0F5kL9I1U

System Shock
>Cyberpunk as hell
>Hardcore techno soundtrack
>Focus on weapons and equipment for progression
>The levels and player freedom are the focuses of the game. The two interact and create situations unique to each player
>Runs on fucking miracles because holy shit for a game from 1994, before dedicated graphical hardware, and being one of the first 3D games ever it's amazing all the stuff that the game could render
>An exploration game with FPS and RPG elements

System Shock 2
>Still cyberpunk but more of a focus on narrative
>Trance/DnB soundtrack
>Focus is on creating a character build through upgrades and gear for progression. Want to go through with the game as a monkey wrench master who pack-rats everything? Go ahead, but don't complain when you want to become a hacker stormtrooper later on and you can't re-spec
>The player is the star of the game. You're given cool environments to stomp around in
>Thief engine. Been there, done that
>FPS/RPG hybrid. It's Deus Ex with less dialogue

>>2334794
SS2 felt more like generic sci-fi than Cyberpunk.

>>2334760
Damn, 32:58 is very good.

I never got under 5-6 hours myself.

>>2334715
System Shock 2 is very hard, but mostly because it's from different era of video games. Just don't go shootan all over the place like cowadoody Rambo and expect to live.

>>2335754
so first playthrough on hard is ok?

I usually play really carefully and progress slowly and it's not very rewarding if the game gets too easy halfway through.

I watched this movie called Virus (1999) last night and it reminded me of System Shock very much with it's evil computer virus and people being merged with machines. Not the best movie ever, but the special effects were really neat.

>>2335979
That one's some good old late 90s shlock there. Saw that, Deep Rising, and Event Horizon all around the same time.

Just started my second round of SS2 after beating it in co-op few years ago, but this time I'm doing it alone and with mods.

>>2335959
Too bad they go down with a single swing of the laser rapier

Okay quick question what is the best way to map out joytokey with this game

>>2336597
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There are no enough lesser than's in this world.

System Shock > System Shock 2

fight me

>>2336675
okay fine you can go back to sucking Gordon Freeman dick

>>2336769
>Does not even try to make arguments
>>>/v/

>>2336704
Why would I fight someone who was correct?

>>2336704
i'm a 6 foot 4 navy seal who benches 500 pounds and eats punks like you for breakfast. think about what you're getting into, friend

Shock 1 gets so much more respect than Shock 2 here, and almost nowhere else. There are some people on that Shock fansite that I forgot the name of, and some on TTLG, but almost nobody out of here even registers Shock 1 as a blip on the radar. It's sad.

>>2336769
There is absolutely no way to fit all of either Shock's functions to any existing joystick, and yes, all of them are essential. Play Bioshock if you want to use a controller.

>>2336817
if you were you would not be trying to Bragg about that here squid

>>2336834
stop being a pussy about it. a real man dose things because they can or are you telling me you can't because your pathetic

>>2336839
It's like you try to be ironically stupid and forget the ironically part.

>>2336893
Bioshock is a better game and fuck you and your cake is a lie bullshit

>>2336962
This .but honestly bioshock was made in 2007 where system shock was made in 1994 . As much as i like the game I'm not big in the entire space ship scifi. Bioshock whit its 1960 theme going on, was easier to relate, atleas for me. Do you kindly agree?

spent the time did it myself enjoy. Two notes I switched in-game Prev Weapon ( [ ) and Next Weapon ( ] ) and psy hypo to ( J)

SUCK MY WIZARD NUTS!!-Gandalf the grey

I've actually been wanting to play this for a while, but I've heard that the controls can be annoying to get used to. Is this true? Any recommended adjustments to make? I don't care about older graphics at all, just want to make sure I'm getting the most out of the game.

>controls can be annoying
In ss2? As long as you are using mouse and rebind keys a little, its golden.
I didn't play ss1 enough to give an opinion.

>>2338141
I just rebinded movement to WASD and forced V-sync on so that there won't be mouse lag. Everything else is fine.

>>2332397
Where's that screenshot from?

>>2339563
/v/

I've been playing SS2 lately for the first time in years, but this time with enhanced graphics etc. Space looks great in HD, and the early game crew quarters look very comfy.

Also, the game became much more enjoyable when I stopped thinking it as shooter and started to think it as adventure game instead.

>mfw all the little details
>mfw reaching to chemical/auxiliary storage and pretty much every object is up to take