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Clone console discussion time

>> No.2312934

>>2312696
https://youtu.be/KiP_IRS2RPA?list=UUmWw4QbLgrF5BetJtwAsYtg

>> No.2312940

>>2312934

www.youtube.com/watch?v=kne6AKyYUuM

>> No.2314575
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>>2312696
Chinese friend had this when growing up. Had like two cartridges with like 100 games on them each. We called it "chinese nintendo." Then his parents bought him a Genesis and we played Mutant League all day everyday.

>> No.2314596

the retron v is my personal recommendation, great for gaming with my wife

>> No.2314602

I have a South African Dendy branded 'Reggie's Entertainment System'

>> No.2314751

a.k.a slavshit discussion time

>> No.2314779

Have retron 3. And I kind of like it after hating it for a while.

>> No.2314814

>>2314751

You just jelly that you missed on all them great japan-only titles.
I'm actually glad I had a Famiclone as a kid instead of a NES.
Multicarts like >>2314575 were great.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poz3yzcYPfo

I've always found video related to be interesting.

>> No.2314845

>>2314596
The wife and I love our retron.

We have an open relationship and have been considering some retron swapping, with the right couple of course!

Interested?

>> No.2314849 [DELETED] 

oh lord.

>> No.2314856

>>2314837
>tfw RGT doesn't put up any videos anymore
feels bad man ;_:

>> No.2314863

>>2314856
Yeah he is probably at that point to where he has everything he wants so not much point in putting up more videos.

I just wish he would continue to restore old systems and fix broken ones so that more people would be able to get the consoles they need.

>> No.2314867

don't think I can handle the power of a retron 5. I'm not ready. I might get blasted out the window.

>> No.2315219
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>>2314575
>>2314814
I've been shopping around for famiclone stuff recently and I've come to the conclusion that China still must be making multicarts, because this "400-in-1 Coolboy" card is widely available and I bought it brand new on aliexpress.

The only difference from this one and older multicarts is that there actually IS 400 games on there, that more or less all are different.

A portion of the games are original (crappy) mini-games and others are weird romhacks.

>> No.2315225

>>2315219

Yes, they still produce multicarts.

The new ones are pretty popular among Famiclone collectors because, as you said, they actually include 400 games without repeating any, and they include stuff like Megaman, Castlevania and other "big" games that usually old multicarts didn't have.
These chinese multicarts are a good, cheaper alternative to famicom everdrives.

>> No.2315229

>>2315225
I wonder why Super Famicom multicarts never seemed to become a thing...

>> No.2315307

>>2315229
Mostly because the original famicom doesn't have the NES10 chip in it. That was only for the NA and EU Toaster style NES.

So because there isn't a lockout chip for carts, famicom games become very easy to manufacture.

The super famicom does have a lockout chip that requires a chip in the cart to play the game.

To my knowledge there was only one unofficial game released for the north american super nintendo and that was some bible game by wisdom tree which requires you to have a retail game inserted on top.

>> No.2316701

>>2315307
SNES games took up more memory, and it didn't have nearly the number of off-brand clones as the NES did; but I think the Genesis had a few.

>> No.2319319

I don't understand how illegal clone consoles were so allowed. Seriously, in China they even had Jackie Chan advertise them.

Is it like emulation where it's legal to make them, just not the games?

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Since this thread is very related, I'll link my own post answering an anon

>>2319375

Here's a link with all the Brazilian Nes clones, there are many other from different consoles, but the NES clones thrived a lot because Nintendo neglected the Brazilian market thus creating a legal loophole that allowed for enterprises to manufacture their own version for profit.

http://www.nesarchive.net/v1/brasil/clones.htm

>> No.2319489

>>2319319
It's that Nintendo didn't think anything of poor people buying ancient hardware in countries they wouldn't enter. But I heard that Nintendo actually notice how popular the Dendy was and allowed its company, Steepler, to distribute the SNES in Russia on the grounds that they didn't sell Sega products.

>> No.2321197

>>2314751

The last thread was very interesting as an American

>> No.2321226

>>2319319
It also seemed less weird then because it was normal for various companies to all make the same device. It would be like if now there was a Panasonic Playstation, a Samsung Playstation and an Apple Playstation, or something. Nowadays, even if it was legit, it would seem incredibly weird.

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Took a picture of my collection today, it's small but growing fast.

The unit in the top right is a keyboard clone for typing games.

>> No.2321930

Last week I bought a famicom clone console with 3 pistols (2 of them actually work) and two family carts.

4 bucks. Oh, and the console has games inside of it too.

Makes me wish I could dump the motherfuckers. Wish I knew how to dump carts at all.

>> No.2321938

>>2321930
It is complicated from what I understand. I have dumped a few carts, but that was just using scripts that someone else wrote. In all you need either a Kazzo or a CopyNES or similar, know how to write instructions for said device, and know how the cartridge in question functions.

>> No.2322860

bump

>> No.2324104

Clones exist in many forms for the Atari 2600, NES/Famicom, Colecovision, Intellivision, Sega Sg-1000, Original Game Boy, SMS, and even the PC Engine and Mega Drive. However, for some reason there are next to no actual clones of the Super Famicom/SNES, GBC Playstation, N64, Sega Saturn, or Sega Dreamcast. At most there are like 2 clones of the Sega Saturn, Playstation, and Dreamcast.
,

>> No.2324408

>>2322860
There are also clones of Home computers that exist. Examples are numerous IBM PC DOS clones. 8-bit apple ][ series such as the laser 128 or Banana. ZX Spectrum clones such as the Buna 48k, CZ spectrum, Sam Cope, and the Brazilian TK 90X.

>> No.2324409

>>2324408
*Dubna 48k, Sam coupe.

>> No.2324450

>>2324409
Bumping for justice.

>> No.2324458

I just got a retrobit NES since I'm sick of my famicom deleting my Zelda saves everytime I frustratingly wiggle the adapter and cartridge around.

So far so good. The colour palette favours yellow too much and the cymbal sounds are cheap, but it's still £30 cheaper than importing an NTSC-U NES.

>> No.2324467

>>2324458
Also I had a polystation (PS2 famiclone) that burst into flames one day. They saturate the circuit boards with glue by going gung-ho on the components.

>> No.2324476

>>2324104
Only clones of the dreamcast that I know of are the Treamcast, made in Hong Kong, and a Korean clone.

>> No.2324518

>>2324104
I think that's because how the parts for those are custom made. Probably anyone could build an Atari 2600.

>> No.2324539
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Technically, this is a clone console...

>> No.2325615

>>2324539
It makes me wonder why nintendo never made an official NES adapter for the Super Famicom/SNES, while Atari did make one for the 5200 that let it play VCS games.

>> No.2325620

>>2325615
I imagine they never really saw the need. The NES was still selling like crazy worldwide, it would have cut into profits. Most of the systems with backwards compatibility had it built in in some way.

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>>2325620
clone BUMP! SAVE THE THREAD!

>> No.2327579

I got my first ever console at a really young age and it was a clone console that I can barely remember. All I remember about it is that the controller was blue, and it had some 2d side scrolling skateboarding game where you could gather points by picking up bottles
Anyone know what I'm talking about?

>> No.2327628

>>2324476

Treamcast isn't a clone, is it?

>>2324539

Where does that cable plug into?

>> No.2327702

>>2327628
The back of the SNES.

>> No.2327712

>>2327702

Obviously, but where? Is it an AV passthrough?

>> No.2327715

>>2327712
You plug the AV adapter into the back of the Super 8, and then plug that into the Super Nintendo. It's a passthrough for the Super Nintendo portion, the Super 8 outputs the video for the Famicom/NES games.

>> No.2327721
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>>2312696
>>2312696
Another clone.

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>>2327721

>> No.2327748

>>2327628
Treamcast is in fact a Sega Dreamcast clone from Hong Kong.

>> No.2327756

>>2327748

I thought they were made out of real Dreamcasts.

>> No.2328023

>>2327756
Citation needed.

>> No.2328148

>>2327721
Gotta love how they put katakana on it to make look more Japanese and "authentic," like how Chinese cartoons try to copy anime to the point of just taking designs wholesale [e.g. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbv6Ci1iPCE .])

>> No.2328220

>>2328148
There are also quite a few clones of the TRS-80 computer.

>> No.2328848

>>2328220
Bumping for justice.

>> No.2329249
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>>2328848
Bumping with another Famiclone.

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>>2329249

>> No.2329353

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJQr3tnjHlg

>> No.2329396
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>>2329353
The sega Scorpion XVI from Taiwan.

>> No.2329734

>>2312696

Do Supe Famiclones exist?

>> No.2329826

>>2329734
Very few.

>> No.2331501

>>2328023
Not who you're replying to but this is common knowledge. First result on google is probably wikipedia which can learn ya.

>> No.2331647

>>2329734
Nothing /vr/ like the Dendy or Micro Genius, but modern SoC clones exist like the FC Twin.

>> No.2331798

>>2329734
Yes. I've seen clones of SFC, MD and PCE.

>>2331647
Wrong. I've seen all of the above in the 90's

>> No.2332603

>>2331798
The only /vr/ super famiclones are the Super Comboy, made for Republic of Korea market, as well as a similar one that has cartridge ports for both Famicom and SFC games. There is also the SNES CD station, which is quite rare.

>> No.2333052

>>2332603
Anyone here got pictures of the Korean N64 clone, the Comboy 64?

>> No.2333116

>>2332603
>>2333052
The Comboy line was officially licensed by Nintendo. Korea banned Japanese companies from selling products within the country so Nintendo teamed up with Hyundai (unrelated to the car company) sell their wares; Sega had Samsung do the same.

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2333132

The Gamerz Tek nes console isn't half bad for $24. The two controllers it came with though were kinda shit. I ended up simply buying Nintendo brand ones.

>> No.2333136

>>2312696
I really don't know much about clone consoles, not my jam, so this might be a super stupid question. What "upscales" the graphics in the retron 5? I've read reviews that said the graphics were "upscaled"...is there a scaler built in? Is it just copying the ROM and emulating it?

>> No.2333149

>>2312696
i had one of those. it look way more comfier that nes, at least for cartridge insertion

>> No.2333154

>>2333136
The Retron 5 is literally an Android box that dumps your cartridges as ROMs and then just plays them on an emulator. So the 'upscaling' is just the emulator outputting at whatever resolution you pick, just like on a PC.

>> No.2333158

>>2333136
Retron 5 isn't a clone machine, it's a discrete emulation machine that basically downloads the ROM from the cartridge and runs it in-software. It upscales the same way any other emulator does.

>> No.2333243

>>2333154
>>2333158
Now I get why people don't like it. So it's $200 for a slicker version of what you already have.

>> No.2333246

>>2333243
Yeah pretty much. The retron5 would be much cooler if it actually ran games on real hardware but it doesn't.

Its just a small android based design with stolen emu code.

>> No.2333259

>>2333243
"slicker" is a strong word

>outdated stolen emulation code
Keep in mind; this is early android emulation software. Way out of date.
>forced to use cartridge on a system that doesn't even use the hardware.
>Cheap build quality
>Poor upscaling and other features.
>Inability to load up an entire library
>Not modular

You could honestly build something way better for the same amount of money. For an emulation machine it's terrible.

Honestly the same amount of money could just go to an Nvidia Shield... and that would both be portable and would work on a TV.

>> No.2333771

Is there any 'fake console' out there that can not only take old real cartridges, but also has usb slots or something for roms? I'd like something I could just load a flashdrive or sd card into.

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Has anyone experienced the Subor SB-926? I think is pretty interesting how they turned a Famiclone into a computer.

>> No.2333814

>>2333771
1. Buy console
2. Buy Everdrive

>> No.2334030
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Continue?
>Yes
>No

>> No.2334041
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>Yes

>> No.2334043
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>> No.2334046
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2334046

Its a Famiclone in a Mega Drive 2 shell, heres the MCD port

>> No.2334047
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If you didnt know what it is

>> No.2334048
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I also have this mini NES clone that sadliy no longer works

>> No.2334049

>>2333132
cheap upscaler
mah nigga

>> No.2334050
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>> No.2334057

>>2333259
I meant slicker as in it looks like a retro console with a paint job

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>>2334030
>You have selected: "No"

>> No.2334175

>>2334057
Well, it's not a slicker version of what you already have since what you already have is objectively better... The Retron 5 is total shit.

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>>2312696

>> No.2336560

>>2333806
Nintendo originally wanted to release the NES as a C64-esque computer, and Japan had the Family BASIC add-on; it's not too surprising.

>> No.2336607
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>>2336043
Bump with more clones

>> No.2336640

>>2336560
I honestly wish we would've had that. Would've been so cool. Kind of unfair for the Japanese though.

>> No.2336642

>>2334068

I suggest "Gentle Tap"

>> No.2336643
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>>2336640
Forgot pic, even the design is cooler in my opinion.

Pretty reminiscent of MSX computers. I wonder if it would've had a big indie dev scene seeing as it seems to have a tape reader?

>> No.2336658

>>2336643
I can understand why they abandoned the whole computer scene, but why did they also scrap the Tape recorder peripheral? You could use it to not only save stuff on excitebike and the Mario demolition game, but also used it to program music with the right tools.

>> No.2336673

>>2336658
I think Family BASIC had little to no success in Japan. Think about it, the Famicom came out in 1983, Family Basic in 1984 and the NES in 1985. They had plenty of time to evaluate how it worked out in Japan.

>tfw no big NES demoscene

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Anyone has one of those? the buttons look untrustworthy

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>>2336674
I was told they were OK except the rounded d-pad which felt a bit odd.

And hey, if you want to see nice bootleg stuff, follow bootleggames wiki on twitter.

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>>2336779
Run-of-the-mill famiclone.

>> No.2338175

>>2336674
At least it has a back lit screen.

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Have you guys ever heard of Retron 5?

>> No.2338275

>>2338202
Closest I'll ever get to buying that is buying a Retron 3.

>> No.2338367

>>2338202
We're talking about older clones (i.e. from the '80s and '90s) or those from poorer countries, not your glorified Ouya crap.

>> No.2338395

>>2338202

We're talking clone consoles, not emulation boxes.

>> No.2339892

>>2312696
>Clone console discussion time

did us have actual clones

>> No.2339895

>>2338202
My gf and I got a retron 5. It got her into retro gaming. We're going to play Castlevania 1 tonight. I haven't beaten it in quite a while, and I have a feeling it's going to piss her off, but hey Castlevania is awesome.

>> No.2339898

>>2339892
Every flea market in the US will have one or two people selling "Super Joy" type systems. They're typically $15-$30.

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>> No.2341671
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>>2340092
Nasa hor 91 from france.

>> No.2341692

>>2341671

>> No.2341693
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>>2341692
Forgot pic of AV opera station.

>> No.2341731
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>>2341693
A clone of the Gamecube, from Panasonic.

>> No.2341736

>>2341731
First off, not /vr/
secondly that's official and is just expensive with added features.

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>>2341736
Well, thanks for the heads-up. Here is a Russian Mega Drive clone.

>> No.2342181

>>2341693
Why would they create a knock-off of the PSone when VCDs were still around; wouldn't it be too expensive? Does it play PSone games at all?

>> No.2342196

I have a generation nex (NES clone), it works well aside from the death grip it clutches your carts with

seriously feel like I'm breaking them every time I pull one out

>> No.2342250

>>2342181
It plays Audio CD's VCD's and Mp3 CD's. You can burn NES-famicom games onto the CD's.

>> No.2342463

>>2336642
It's "feather touch"

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I can't believe there is a clone for the Dreamcast, let alone one that is "Portable".

>> No.2342995

>>2342250
But it's billing itself as PSOne compatible, not as a Nintendo player.

>> No.2343003

>>2341815
>genesis with saturn controllers
this is the greatest idea of all time

>> No.2343808
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>>2342196
Officially licensed clone of the Sega Master system 1 for the South Korean market.

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>>2343808
Bump Is anybody still here?

>> No.2345821

>>2342987
It's not really a clone. It's a regular off-the-shelves Dreamcast in a new custom shell.

I wonder if the screen is using RGB though.

>> No.2346496

>>2345821
The screen uses composite. So does the treamstation.

>> No.2346972

The plystation can play official games?

>> No.2346973

>>2346972
*polystation

>> No.2348337

>>2346972
It can. That's pretty much the whole point of a clone.

>> No.2348392

>>2343808
>>2345795
It's not a fucking clone, do your research

>> No.2348393

>>2346973
>>2348337

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_a6lxiB1b_I

>> No.2348793

>>2348393
not sure if trolling or just really stupid

>> No.2349880

Someone save all those yellow cards and we get dumped from here: http://cah4e3.shedevr.org.ru/fceultra.php

It have the missing cards we all needs to be in rom.

http://cah4e3.shedevr.org.ru/cartsbase.php