/vr/ - Retro Games

Starfox 64.

>>2311470
thats rail shooter not shmup

>>2311471
also not 32bit

What the fuck do you know about RayStorm?

This game is fucking awesome. It's gorgeously colorful, lots of environmental interaction, a super-cool lock-on mechanism, two ships with different weapons systems, huge multi-part bosses, and lots of frenetic bullet dodging.

This game is and shall forever be The Shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ga1k9_9_yA

>>2311471
You move around just like a shmup. It's just like a top down shmup but instead of looking down you're looking behind.

Rail shooter usually implies no movement.
>>2311472
Part of that generation.

>>2311482
>Part of that generation.
not really

>>2311463
Zanac X Zanac. I'm pretty sure it meets those criteria. Either way it's a total blast.

>>2311519
>MUSHA
>32bit
If you say so, anon. Great game, though.

Gigawing is breddy gud

also, Radiant Silvergun, obviously

G-Darius comes to mind.
Fun shooting, interesting enemy-capturing feature, and a cool-ass counter mechanic that was a neat discovery from the manual, despite playing the shit out of the demo and thinking I knew all I was getting into.

>>2311647
Does Radiant Silvergun count? It has great looking 3D bosses, but does use sprites for your ship and most regular enemies.

>>2311482
>You move around just like a shmup. It's just like a top down shmup but instead of looking down you're looking behind.
>Rail shooter usually implies no movement.
Dafuckamireading.jpg It's an on rails shooter like sin n punishment or rez and not a shmup.

>>2311669
Also some sick ass weird music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGgJv6fpp2I

>>2311683
oh 3D only

I guess I'll say R-Type Delta then? Maybe?

Maybe you can call Omega Boost a shmup

If Radiant Silvergun doesn't count then I'd go for Thunder Force V.

>>2311463
Did square make all their boxes look the same at the time, or was just ff7?

>>2311841
I know they made all their disks look the same. The black labels had simple white discs while the greatest hits forewent the white and just inked the logo and fine print over a plain CD.

>>2311463
Isn't Einhander only 2.5D since you never actually get to use full 3D?

>>2311482
>>2311686
First guy's got a point in that you can't move in somthing like Rez, it's still not a shmup unless Zaxxon is a shmup because it's not on a 2D plane

wait

Zaxxon's not a shmup right

also you guys know Zaxxon right

>>2311987
>also you guys know Zaxxon right

Of course. We're not /v/ plebs, you're amongst friends here!

>>2311463
Fucking best remix evar rite heer (srs tho
):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljbWJkncrAQ

>>2311482
Panzer Dragoon, Star Fox, Omega Boost and Rez are not shoot 'em ups, holy shit that logic. They're good games but don't get fucking cocky.

>>2311463
There are no 3D only shmups because they all have 2D gameplay.

>>2311480
RayStorm is okay.
It's no Einhander.

R-Type Delta is a good contender. Same with G-Darius, but I think that game has issues.

>>2311526
not that guy, but to this day, I don't know why anyone says the 68k isn't a 32 bit CPU (or at least, why ANYONE says it's a 16 bit one)

native word length: 32 bits
register width: 32 bits
addressable memory: 24 bits (the upper 8 bits aren't addressable just because they aren't hooked up to pins on the CPU)

>>2311710
Omega Boost mightn't be a shmup, but it's one of the best PS1 games of all. So fucking good.

>>2313136
>I don't know why anyone says the 68k isn't a 32 bit CPU
It had a 16-bit data bus, it came out during the 16-bit console generation, and Sega marketed it as a 16-bit console.

From a technical perspective, only the first one of those is really meaningful (though it is an important distinction - a 16-bit data bus is slower than a 32-bit data bus at moving 32-bit values), but the other two have a lot to do with why most people consider it to be 16-bit, despite the CPU architecture making it look a little different.

I could also add that the SNES's CPU architecture had an 8-bit data bus and could use 8-bit registers (in addition to 16-bit ones), but we don't call it an 8-bit console either.

>>2311463
radiant silvergun

>>2312481
I like this one.

Thermosphere remix:
http://youtu.be/FGdouEqgZJY

It's Einhander, which means one-hander in German and is a Deutsche euphemism for jacking off.

wtf

>>2311850
You got that backwards. The black labels had the logos inked right onto the data layer, so a lot of the games are easily damaged. The greatest hits discs are thick white labels pressed onto the disc with simple titles printed on top.

Silvergun, no fucking contest. Also Einhander isn't a 3D game you fucktard. It's a 2D game that uses polygon models.

>>2314260
Why are you so angry?

>>2313530
Wow, I haven't heard an old-school trance mix like that in a long time. Enjoyed it, thanks.

>>2311471
>being this new
it's obviously a rooty mc'shooty

anybody have the chart?

>>2311463
Einhander is the "cinematic experience" of the shmups genre but the gameplay is bland and the game is piss easy. Difficulty for a shmup or any arcade game in general is an important element, i am not asking for something inhuman like Gradius 3 But a real challenge.
>money grabber
If you think it's not, go play those always win ufo catchers.

Anyway
Raystorm.
R-type delta.
G-darius.
Thunderforce V.

Grow some balls and hairs and go challenge a 1cc on R-type delta or Raystorm and it rank system and cry a river like the bitch you are.
And don't trow stupid shit like it have flaws our it not Einhander, give me the list of the issues and flaws with those games.

Or you can continue to kid yourself about that with your Biased fanboy opinion.

>>2315901
>easy
wat
I could never beat it.

>>2315908
Then Congratulation you failed at shmups.

>>2311463
OP, you should also look into G-Darius. It uses a weapon capture system that's similar to einhander.

>>2315909
I'm ok with that. I still love the genre even if I'm terrible at them.

>>2315912
sorry anon i was a little bit harsh with you.

Well yeah to improve your skills Try to play UN squadron/area 88(ARC),Hotdog storm(ARC) or shienryu (PS1) .
But don't go coin feeding. Play one credit a time to learn and memorize a route and the enemies/boss/bullets patterns.

Godspeed.

>>2311489

She said "64" not "SNES"

>>2311463
R-Type Delta, not even a contest.

G Fucking Darius. Though TFV is pretty good too.

>>2315910
gdarius is literally impossible

>>2315924
>Hotdog storm
Wat

>>2316869
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Efum8FuBoFA

Enjoy.

The game is not piss easy but not that hard too an average challenge if you ask me, just don't fuck yourself by grabbing every power up on screen but instead choose what you think would help you the best.
And No more then 1 credit at a time, after some time playing like this trust me your skill will improve alot.

>>2316896
really doesn't live up to the title's promise

>>2311879

Ever use the Wasp? That weapon hits things in the background or foreground that your other weapons can't. In that respect, the game is 3D. Kinda like Rayforce/Raystorm/Raycrisis, without the crosshairs.

>>2311480

I share your love of raystorm, it's a lot of fun (in 2-player mode as well).

If you haven't tried it, I also recommend raycrisis. It's much clumsier, but ... DAT FINAL BOSS RUSH

>>2311697

fuck yes, darius music is delightfully bizarre

>>2315901

Yo, I'm a big fan of raystorm, but it's one of the easiest shmups I've ever played.

Thunderforce V, for instance, is vastly more difficult.

Difficulty I'd say:

thunderforce > g-darius > raystorm > r-type delta

>>2316896
0/10, no actual storm of hotdogs

Hot Dog Storm is a real game?

I thought it was just some shmup-player injoke I had been hearing for years. Wow.

>>2317327
Glad to see another anon who love the Ray series.
But i disagreed with you, Even if the ray games are not unbearable challenges, raystorm is clearly not the easiest game to 1CC cause the rank system is kind of brutal after a time, add to that the game say fuck you for extend so suicide is tricky to manage.

I 1cc garrega and finished 2all of cyvern and the original Strikers so yeah the challenge of the ray games definitely not the hardest i done. But for a neophyte he will definitely cry a river before 1CC the game.

Shienryu or Darius 2 for example are one of the easiest i played to the point the games are boring for me. (even if i love the Darius games)

>>2317621
>>2317629
>>2316904
Sorry for disappointing you guys, i redeem myself with Space bomber.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3bQWFnj5VQ

what about raycrisis?

Philosoma

Raiden-DX

Is this game full of moonrunes?

>Good-looking game
>full of moonrunes
>fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu...

>>2320097
Everything but mission titles and the names of VFs and weapons.