/vr/ - Retro Games

===NEWS===

[03-23] Demonsteele v0.8 released: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=823467#p823467

[03-20] The /newstuff Chronicles #473: http://www.doomworld.com/php/topstory.php?id=4374

[03-18] The Golden Boner Awards: GMOTA/DemonSteele/HDoom/LOVELY.WAD/200minvr/MoAaS >>2296201 >>2296203

[03-16] Plutonia 64, a remake of Plutonia for Doom 64 EX: http://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1348501

[03-14] Another episode in the Favillesco series, by Nicholas Monti, of Eviltech fame: http://www.doomworld.com/vb/wads-mods/72083-favillesco-alpha-episode-2-desecration-on-thebe/

[03-13] As promised: Tabula Rasa, a 5-map wad for any source port, by Dewce. >>2287504 http://www.best-ever.org/download?file=tabula_rasa.wad

[03-13] Zero-Master retakes the Doom2 speed record by an astonishing 83 (eighty-three!) seconds. http://www.doomworld.com/vb/doom-speed-demos/72075-doom-2-in-2032/ https://youtu.be/ghCPOd_V-JE

[03-12] Doomed Space Wars, by Pcorf, 3rd beta release: http://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1351392

[03-11] OBLIGE v6.20 featuring monster closets: http://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1351352

[03-09] GMOTA v0.9.8 finally arrives: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=45115

[03-08] A mod for Trailblazer from the maker of BD:SE >>2279145 http://www.mediafire.com/download/5ak489t2txom92x/TB_Burst_Pistol.pk3

[03-07] A new direction for The Space Pirate http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=37064&start=359

[03-05] New E1M8 void glide speed route found by Kpa6, TASed by Looper, and recorded by JCD: http://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1349403 / >>2272227 (video)

[03-05] Crispy Doom v2.3: http://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1349499

[03-01] Romero on CNN: http://www.doomworld.com/vb/doomworld-news/71883-

[02-26] Unloved is back, but not as a Doom mod: http://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1347196

[02-24] Uplink, a four-map Boom set themed around technology: http://www.doomworld.com/vb/wads-mods/71350-

===

Please reply to this post with news.

First for
When is Samsara .31 coming out?
When is Combine_Kegan going to stop reworking the same stuff over and over and release GMOTA 1.0?
Why isn't PUSH getting updated any more, has TerminusEst13 dropped it forever just like Nakara, Metroid: Dreadnought and Buttpain?
What happened to Ijon Tichy, why did TerminusEst13 drive him away from Doom forever?
What happened to Cyberrunner?
When is The Space Pirate getting updated and is it still going to copy the sword from Demonsteele?
How come blood in Demonsteele is okay but not in Brutal Doom?
What happened with IMX and why is he not making the threads any more?
Why did TerminusEst13 intentionally disable support for Brutal Doom in Demonsteele by infinitely spawning revenants if they try to load it with Brutal Doom?
Does anybody know of a good model pack for Doom?
When is CyperPunk Showdown getting an update?
What happened to the Berserk Mod?
Does anybody know anything about that Thief mod for GZDoom?

>>2306262

>pic

...it just hit me. Pretty clever reference.

>>2306267

When some people realize their mod isn't getting internet popular, they throw a temper tantrum and start lashing out at other people.

The rest of us grew up out of kindergarten.

>>2306278
>When some people realize their mod isn't getting internet popular
Which mod is it that he's throwing the temper tantrum about?

I'm back!

>>2306279

The Samsara authenticity add-on guy has always been a dumbass from day 1.
Simply at the start he pretended to be clueless by going "wait isn't terminus a gr8 coder" and "if samsara is supposed to be 100% totally accurate in every way why do pipebombs bounce differently". The progress he's been posting has had lukewarm response at best.

If tail end of the last thread is any indication, he's incredibly angry that he isn't being named the "successor" and wants to post shit about Terminus, Ijon, and everyone.

>>2306286
That's a far more intimate embrace than the original.

>>2306286
shoo shoo skel---waitaminute, wrong post

>>2306287
Are you sure that the shitposter is actually the samsara addon guy and not someone pretending to sound like him to stir up hatred against him because they don't like him?

>>2306292

Am I 100%, beyond a shadow of a doubt, concrete and irrefutable evidence? No.
But am I sure? Yes.

Considering the shit he's done in the past, he doesn't have a lot of leeway to say otherwise.

>>2306296
But it also seems like it would be easy for someone else to pretend to be him, given that.

>>2306292

not him but nobody that i know would bother to pull a false flag against him

>>2306297

We'll find out in the future, then.

I would like to take this opportunity to remind everyone in this thread about the asshole who created Duke Nukem Eternity for EDuke32. May he rest in piss.

Thank you for your time, good citizens of DOOM.

i believe i screwed something up

>>2306313

looks good to me

>>2306313

PRAISE JAH

MORE HERB

>>2306319
Beat me to it.

What you guys use for screen to webm?

>>2306425

Fraps to record, Webm for Retards to convert to, well, webm.

>>2306439
FRAPS has given me weird issues in the past, I might try it again.

>>2306445

Generally, video recording is interchangeable and mostly dependent on "what works".
I like Fraps because it's simple, but takes up fuckhuge filesizes. Dxtory is incredibly powerful, but requires a bit of codec knowledge. Bandicam is versatile, but requires a bit of setting up and keybinds.

>>2306453
>Dxtory is incredibly powerful, but requires a bit of codec knowledge.
Have never really had an issue with "codec knowledge" but last time I tried Dxtory with latest GZDoom (with that new OpenGL) it couldn't hook onto it and therefore couldn't record. Then again I am using an older version of the software. You can also use FRAPS' codec with Dxtory if you want to as well.

>>2306425
I used Open Broadcaster Software because it's free. You do have to manually change OBS from sending data to twitch or livestream to record as file, and once you are done use WebM for Retards on the .mp4 file.

>>2306267
Holy dramatic shit, why do you shitpost like this?

Theres like 2 legitimate concerns in this post, the rest is just stirring shit that isn't even like, a thing.

Stahp

>>2306445
>>2306453
FRAPS, Dxtory, Shadowplay, even OBS isn't bad for capturing and recording nowadays.

>>2306313
Royal Painbow?

>>2306159
>Just gonna ask before the new thread if anyone has had a chance to run through map05 of Tabula Rasa and can comment on the final encounter.
>I know one anon said the process for opening the exit was a little vague, and with all the pressure I've added, if that's the case then I'd like to make it a bit clearer.

that was me. to be blunt i hate monster spawners and i really wish you hadn't added one. sorry, that's probably not what you wanted to hear. perhaps you should wait for more opinions, because mine is overwhelmingly negative.

the first time (if you didn't manage to get my demo to play back or couldn't be bothered to sit through nearly 40 minutes) i cleared the area before pressing on the demon face that i correctly guessed was the exit door. finding that locked, i looked around for a switch that turned out to reveal the two boss monsters on their split platform inside the central pillar. i killed them from below, with the BFG. it wasn't immediately apparent from that angle that there were switches up there too. i noticed the switches, but it took a while more - i thought they were maybe shootable - no - or should i strafejump from the side - no, too far - before i thought to jump off the high platform by the exit door.

now with a monster spawner up there too, it's annoying because the high platform is permanently crowded. i think if i didn't know there were switches on the boss platforms i would be more likely to miss them due to running around panicking going "shit there's a monster spawner, have to exit before it renders the area unplayable".

>>2306459
Unfortunately for now, Dxtory can't detect OpenGL 4.0 which is what the GZDoom past 2.x uses. Officially, at least.

http://forum.exkode.com/index.php?topic=1075.0
I'm on 2.0.126 and it picks up GZDoom 2.x just fine.

Secondly I'd recommend Lagarith set on YV12 + multithreading with 2 threads over FRAPS codec any day. A tad slower, but compresses better.

>>2306538
i thought it was a satire, both of shitposting, and all the currently common once-per-thread questions whose answers never change. in other words, a joke, but then there is no tangible difference between a jokepost and a shitpost other than the subjective impression of the reader, if he gets it or he doesn't.

>>2306557
whaaaaat.

>>2306557
im starting to unironically enjoy this hipster retro shit

>>2306564
>using hipster in 2015

>>2306538

What're the two concerns?

>>2306580

I dunno, it seems pretty hip to me.

>>2306583

When is Cyberpunk Showdown and TSP getting an update.

>>2306557
Could be gud, depending on how much the gameplay changes and if it comes with it's own maps.

>>2306583
This post features opinions so beware...

I think Terminus' long list of promising but incomplete abandoned mods is worthy of inquiry (not harassment, or shit stirring, mind you)...

And the borderline bizarre anti-brutaldoom crowd... Mocking them and telling them to fuck off is great in my opinion.

>inb4
I played vanilla Doom when it was current (as a minor, I played it with pc speaker and and 320x240, oh yes... actually beat the damn game that way)
I have revisited doom in its original glory, it's a great game and holds up well. BD is a fantastic mod/addition to the game, plain and simple. Some of it is janky, some of it is unnecessary, but the majority of it genuinely adds to the game/fun factor.

God, what was intended as a short reply turned into a brutal rant. Myyyy baaaad.

>>2306605
pretty sure the first is dead

the second is in a throw-everything-away-and-start-again state. which is never a good sign, how many projects survive a full restart.

>>2306580
Is that actual simulated fluid dynamics, just to make a shit gif? I've seen it before, but I've never sat down and thought about the implications thereof, that someone actually made accurately modeled fluid, to simulate diarrhea... *shiver*, lawd, Hell is quite welcoming compared to these thoughts.

>>2306612
>320x240
kek

>>2306615
>the second is in a throw-everything-away-and-start-again state. which is never a good sign, how many projects survive a full restart.
Marty's a competent modder that has amassed like 4 or 5 completed mods under his belt over the years. It'll be completed.

>>2306623
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLKnCeeAW48

>>2306629

I've always wondered, what ARE Marty's other projects?

>>2306624
Also, didn't play with a mouse until much later, like, 2 pcs and a generation or 2 of games later (quake, et al)... God I wish I could go back and tell young me the glory of mouse aiming and strafing...

>>2306612
>Terminus' long list of promising but incomplete abandoned mods is worthy of inquiry

Not really much to say, honestly, but here.

>Ranger: Finished and released
>ZDoom Wars: Not actually mine, finished and released two extra factions, did graphics for main mod
>Samsara: No longer under development
>Cyberrunner: Cancelled
>Buttpain: Finished and released
>Metroid Dreadnought: Finished and released, people offered to map/sprite, didn't
>DemonSteele: Current project
>Push: Current project along with DemonSteele, alternate development so as not to burn out, now that DemonSteele has a new release I'm back to working on this again
>The future: Death, destruction, hurt feelings all around.

>>2306612

To be fair, I don't think Term ever truly abandons his work. He comes back to unfinished things and uses resources from them to create something new. Demonsteele uses a LOT of stuff from his old boomerang mod with contra deaths on monsters and the token based HP.

And yeah, while I'm not fond of what Brutal Doom has become or the author. I think flipping shit over it is silly. The majority of its fan base sure is annoying though

>>2306638
The Stranger, Diaz, Extreme Measures, a couple other ones I can't remember off the top of my head.

>>2306646

Oh, and
>Zapper Master: Finished and released

>>2306657

He made Diaz? Man I need to go play these

>>2306659

Zapper master sequel when with a super scope upgrade when? Bonus points if you add a second class wielding the master system light gun and Sega Menacer

>>2306646
well, poster you're replying to here, that pretty well answers my concerns, I for some reason thought you were going to be mapping and spriting for Metroid, but you know, I was around for people saying that, not you. Not sure how my mind crossed that up.

Anyway, as mentioned, I'm not the guy shitposting like you're Satan himself, just felt like a few mods got hyped then vanished, but researching what's actually happened, doesn't really seem to be your doing.

>have I fallen victim to the shitposting?
[Spoiler]No John, you are the shitposters[/spoiler]
^really isn't relevant, but I like to use that line whenever possible, and it felt right

>>2306672
use ctrl + s for spoiler tags

>>2306675
I posted that from my phone, however... This IS new information for me and I'll test it the moment I'm on a desktop.

>>2306657
Diaz was by far my favorite. Shit, it flat out inspired me to make my own wad. I'll never forget the automatic pistol that jammed and you had to smack it a bunch to unjam it.

>>2306672
>just felt like a few mods got hyped then vanished

Ah, sorry about that.
For what it's worth, I'm trying to be a lot more transparent about stuff that I'm definitely going to do, stuff that might be nice, and etc.
I still slip up every now and then, but you guys have been pretty patient with me and I sincerely appreciate it.

>>2306267
1)Never because Samsara is nothing but a pain in the ass to term
2)When Kegan stops being a noodlebrain and fixes the smallest detail
3)Because Term is swapping from DS to Push and vice versa, and he's doing push now that DS .8 is released
4)Buttpained author from rootpain killed the thing
5)Ijon just left because he wanted, nothing that term did
6)Died as it lived, Fast.
7)Whenever you stop being a faggot
8)Because you are a faggot
9)Kidney stones
10)To make you cry like you are doing
11)No
12)Never
13)It boarded the boat
14)Hiding on your ass like a taffer

>>2306731

>Why did TerminusEst13 intentionally disable support for Brutal Doom in Demonsteele by infinitely spawning revenants if they try to load it with Brutal Doom?
>9)Kidney stones

>Does anybody know of a good model pack for Doom?
>10)To make you cry like you are doing

wat

>>2306731
>When is The Space Pirate getting updated and is it still going to copy the sword from Demonsteele?
>7)Whenever you stop being a faggot

>he will never stop being a faggot
>TSP will never be updated
;_;

I think I accidently the whole red cybie

>>2306731

>getting the answers in the wrong order

serves you right for replying to that fag in the first damn place, retard.

>>2306778
looks fine to me

>>2306770
rip ;_;7

>>2306672
^really isn't revenant

>>2306718
Yeah man, not really blaming you, hell, I imagine it's hard to not get excited about projects, I've contributed minimally to the mods on this board (like, very minimally), and I still feel a little excitement about what I pitch in.

>>2306804

But what if I am?

>>2306817
lower the resolution so you can increase the bit rate, webms dont need to be such a high res

>>2306817
I half-expected to see "You gain brouzouf" appear in the top left corner after each kill.

>>2306731

>2)When Kegan stops being a noodlebrain and fixes the smallest detail

I'm not a noodlebrain...

>>2306859

If anything, you're a bonehead

>>2306868

I can roll with that

>>2306826
Is that better?

Considering how quickly I made this effect, it came out surprisingly well. Need to fix it highlighting pickups and dead bodies, but I already have an idea for the latter.

>>2306938
can't see shit

>>2306938
its purple

>>2306959

I thought it was blue

>>2306938
Dat purp

>>2306938
webm fuckup or that's how it looks ingame?

>>2306954
>>2306959
>>2306962
>>2306965
The purple is intentional, yes. The point of it is to highlight enemies, with the drawback being that, well, you can't see shit.

>>2306976
i can't see the enemies either

Does Demonsteele 0.8 no longer have air juggling? Does it still work like it did in 0.74?

>>2306976
>The point of it is to highlight enemies

Houston, we have a problem.

>>2306983

Yeah, it's still in.
Having it fire only after holding fire was clunky, though. So now its at its own bind.

>>2306981
>>2306984
You guys must have some really dark monitors, then. I can see them just fine even on my CRT.

>>2306991

I have a very bright monitor. Your powerup is not working.

>>2306991
Not him, but while I can see the enemies easier than the surroundings, I still can't see them for see jack shit and I probably wouldn't see them very well at all in game

>>2306584
What? Playing video games? Yea, playing video games is totally hipster.

>FACEPALM LMAO GO BACK TO SUBREDDIT VIRTUAL STUPID XXXDDDDDDDDDDDDD

>>2306991
i turned off f.lux and increased brightness, still can't see shit
even if i could though, i don't see that powerup being too useful, normal nv would be better

>>2306976
You should pack into a wad under the title Sizzurp Mode

>>2306995
>>2306997
>>2307003
Okay, I toned down the opacity on the purple effect a bit. Is this better?

>>2307005

what the fuck is Sizzurp, is that some kinda new drug sensation kids made up?

>>2307013
google is a pal

>>2307016

>PURPLE DRANK

>>2307010

It's better, but only by a bit.
I don't think this is something you can salvage, unfortunately. Either you've got purple shit all over the screen, or enemies stand out.

In fact, if you're using Infrared to make the enemies light up, then there's going to be a lot of players who don't have enemies light up anyway, because that's an optional OpenGL-only feature that defaults to off.

Sorry.

>>2307013
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purple_drank#Popularization

Started in Houston, Texas as part of the southern hip hop scene at the turn of the century.

>>2307010
I still can't see fucking anything.

>>2307010
nope, still swimming in purple drank simulator

>>2307010
I see 4 enemies and a fireball, but unless it would be pitch black, this is much harder to see than with no goggles. Also I have absolutely no idea where the walls are.

>>2306731
>>2306267
>When is CyperPunk Showdown getting an update?
>Never
;_____;

I wanted it to happen, whyyy?

>>2307036
>Notable deaths from use

How can I make this texture transparent in GZDoom Builder?

>>2307010
Could you make a test wad that gives the player this effect and link it here? Might make a difference whether it's in game or not.

>>2307134
Use it as a middle texture. You may have to scroll it up or down if you just want it there by itself, though.

>really like the spritefix/dehfix from Revenant
>autoload works perfectly in zdoom
>autoload in eternity takes priority over any non-autoloaded pwads, causing problems on some mods
>prboom doesnt have iwad specific autoloading (d2 fixes crash d1)
>screw it, I'll just make my own versions of the iwads with these fixes
>they work on everything including chocolate doom without the need for autoloading

>>2307148
I'll just put up the current version of the mod.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/48332341/SupportDoom.pk3

Couple things to note:
>thermal vision is an inventory item, press whatever key you have bound to that to enable/disable
>you go slow. really slow. in exchange, however, damage taken is reduced by 44%.
>all health and armor spawns are blanked. inventory resets between levels.
>smoke grenades replace partial invisibility but are not yet usable
>all bullet weapons save for the PZ-252 share an ammo pool; this is intentional and accurate to the source material
>all weapons except for the Kyla and SRM will slow you down even more when selected
>tapfiring the Mosok reliably is trickier than you'd think, wait a little bit after the animation stops before firing again

>>2307149
Thank you.

>>2306883
you can increase the res and bit rate more
the filesize limit is 3 MB

>>2307165

>No melee weapon, if you run outta bullets you're 100% defenseless
>that pistol recoil
>so many weapons sharing ammo

Like, don't get me wrong, I salute you for being loyal to the source material, whatever it may be. But jesus christ.

>>2307175
I may add a highly unreliable knife as a chainsaw replacement, but the Support's life is a hard one and as such he cannot have the luxury of spawning with it.

The source material in question is NEOTOKYO, a free Source mod with a sick cyberpunk aesthetic and superficial similarities to CS. I may expand the project in the future to add the other two classes, but they have far more complex mechanics than the Support and Support is my class of choice, so I started with it.

Despite Evolve being inconsiderable pieces of shit, the weapons and some of the monsters could probably be ripped out and then sprited over. They've got some decent designs and concepts.

>>2307272
Besides being mired in day 1 DLC and a few sketchy design choices, evolve really had a lot of good everything.

What's a good starting weapon for a weapon mod to have? (Not for particular kind, can be regular gunz or sword&sorcery or something like psy stuff)?

How do you feel about multiple normal weapons with very limited ammo as starting weapons?

I guess what I'm asking is what makes a good starting weapon and how to make something fun but also fit that role.

>>2307290

Yeah, It's good as a base, (bullshit i payed full into the jewry and dropped the 100$+ on the game) but it does have some nice resources...

As long as we don't go full AEOD on the rips we should be fine...

Seriously, AEOD's rips are the worst quality imaginable. Either sprite over them or get better rips.

>>2307305
Depends on the theme of the mod.

Generally a pistol of some sort but sometimes just a melee weapon is the starting weapon.
Usually those mods have decent melee weapons though.

Just remember to have your guns shoot like a single puff that goes through walls and shit. Doesn't have to hurt even.

Lots of levels have shootable switches that doesn't work because of nonstandard ranged weapons.

Does anyone know where I could get the full version of Strife?

>>2307331
FAQ's iwads.zip has it.

>>2306287
>The Samsara authenticity add-on guy has always been a dumbass from day 1.
Heh, isn't that guy supposed to be Donald?

>>2307370
Not supposed to, he is.
None of the changes are actually bad though, he just cannot stop shitting from every orifice when interacting with other people.

I think this would be a sufficient enough change to show "Hey, you got boots (over health) and you got the amulet (over armor)"

>>2307436
um
why not just put icons next to the bars

like the other side of the screen

>>2307440

Because I feel like a small boot icon that grays out would be harder to notice, and there's an armor icon that pops up when you start collecting armor and shit next to the armor bar.

>doom 2 has eighteen unique level midis (sixteen if we exclude wolfensetin/grosse midis)
>no rest for the living has nine levels
>only uses six doom 2 midis, three of which are each used twice.

>>2306976
>>2307010
can't see anything on 4chan's light blue background, but can if i fullscreen the image or put it on black. might be more visible with movement in-game.

>>2307478
>might be more visible with movement in-game.
watching >>2306938 fullscreen, it is. but, not sure i wouldn't be better off without the goggles.

Anyone else just like to download a bunch of 94 wads and play them? I'm having a blast

>Doom 64 Monster reel lets you rotate the enemies then press fire to show the next
>Doom 2 monster reel kills the monsters and shows the next with ANY single button
Why the fuck nobody bothers in making Doom 2's monster reel to show the angles?
Same shit with intermission screens, it should be like in Doom 1 where you could see your progress [trivia:You can see the Tower of Babel being built when you clear a stage in E2] but in Doom 2's mapping community, nobody thinks in making something like this.

>>2307517

Yes.
Doing random wad searches on best-ever or idgames can be surprisingly fun.

Huge bit of progress today.
Trickster is complete. You can do kickjumps, dodge, and jump higher, among other things.
Psycho is mostly done. The style special button will activate a powered up version of your selected psychic power.
The HUD got some new stuff, pretty obvious.
There's now two CVars, score multiplier (cosmetic) and score accumulator clear cooldown. The latter will make your score accumulator take longer to clear.
Many other changes were also made, mostly cosmetic, pretty things.

>>2307462
I never got that, myself. map05 in nrftl I felt D_AMPIE works better than D_IN_CIT

>>2307517
Should download Maximum Doom.

>>2307526
>Why the fuck nobody bothers in making Doom 2's monster reel to show the angles?
Would be cool, but I imagine an advanced source port would be needed to make this work.

>it should be like in Doom 1 where you could see your progress [trivia:You can see the Tower of Babel being built when you clear a stage in E2]
>but in Doom 2's mapping community, nobody thinks in making something like this.

Because its not possible unless you go for zdoom compatibility. Most of the mapping community prefers going for vanilla and prboom compatibility.

>>2307542

Whoa, Psychic is being updated again? Cool.

Meanwhile in the DOOMRPGRLA end, I start a new game and immidiately get 1-monster... Nightmare cyberdemons.

Fuck everything.

>>2307558

Actually. This isn't Xaser's work. Marrub, the guy who made shotguns.wad, is doing a spinoff/continuation of Psychic.

Which is pretty rad

>>2307562

>Shotguns.wad

guaranteed fun confirmed.

Does anyone think we could try and remake/port most of Evolve in the Doom engine? Would be nice to have it's weapons/monsters/whatever for people to use for resources

>>2307562
>Marrub, the guy who made shotguns.wad

Stopped reading there.
My hype is ready.

>>2307567

Off the top of my head Murb's adding Devil May Cry styles, hence the D-pad icon up there, a score, the ability to recover blood coins that vanish, blood coins that gravitate toward you, a sword, and some other cool shit

>>2307558
My laughter is infinite. So is Yholl's.

>>2307526
do you go through the cast call every time you finish map30? i only went through it a couple of times when i was new, i haven't been through it in years. i doubt many experienced players/mappers/modders even think about it.

>>2307526
the subtleties of the intermission screen background are lost to most players, who quickly realise that the world setting is mostly tacked-on and irrelevant. it makes no difference to the game overall.

doom doesn't have that kind of graphical story immersion. it may have started out as trying to be that kind of game; tom hall wanted it, but i don't think anyone else did, so they fired him. you can already tell the story was largely vestigial by the time the game was released; and in doom2, aside from a few hastily-added text scrolls, it was optimized out completely.

>>2307586
>TFW Tom was just doing was he was told
>TFW Tom will never make Anachronox 2

Time for opinions!

Optimal Renegade loadout for DRPG/DRLAM? Obviously after shotguns mostly, but armor suggestions/sets with excellent bonuses or on-use armors welcome

>>2307607
The Angelic set. Become the Painkiller.

i know it's been fixed but this is still the funniest bug.

also:

- burning barrels only seem to be kickable if you're not berserk. if you are berserk they can't be knocked over.

- unlike all other weapons the plasma gun doesn't have its own pickup sound, you just get the regular item pickup sound.

- it would be nice if the hud replicated the althud feature of showing a berserk box in place of the medikit if you have it.

>>2307613
Nice theme, imo

>>2307607
Megaton Shotgun and full Nuclear Power Armor.

>>2307620
I did not realize the megaton shotgun was in the game - time to cheat to see it, then find out how to get it legit, reload, and torture myself!

>joe-ilya wants maps for his birthday
>when theres already a project surrounding him

Wow.

>>2307631
He's a faggot and he's going about it like a faggot, BUT... He's cashing in "personal" points to get maps to the community, so really, that makes it okayish in my book.

>>2307630
I'm too stupid to figure out what it's called, give xxxxxx? Time to bust out SLADE3 :P

>>2307635
It's not visible in my files, and I have the most up to date version posted on the zdoom thread, is there a github or RL-specific blog/site I'm missing maybe?

Amongst the other things I'm working on for GMOTA, I'm fucking around and attempting to make the various lines Marty did for me sound lower in quality to make an SNES/arcade quality

Just grabbed a longer line so you can hear the difference, I'm most likely going to stick with the grunts and yells he's made, though a few of these one-liners will make it in still

No filter:
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0I1huf0DdxO

Filter:
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0M2VgVuotiL

If anyone has any proper advice on how to make these sound intentionally lower in quality, please for the love of fuck let me know

>>2307637
It's not in yet. Yholl's talking about Beta 8.

>>2307640
Ah, no test release yet? Been kinda drooling for more stuff to blast stuff with in that, DRPG/RL does things to my penis that it shouldn't.

I played like 4 maps of the 200 minutes of /vr/ megawad and I didn't have any fun. Thank you for reading my post. -anon

>>2307640
huehue

Also I just finished the second megaboss for DRPG.
Pride will end you.

>>2307648
Please share with the plebs, plz.

nah seriously though I'm kinda addicted, and I wish this had a little more polish and was a retail product, I know money + mods usually ends up in disaster but this could really go the distance. Probably as a discrete project obviously inspired by your work here, but just sayin'.

>>2307649
nevaaar
DRLA is still a fair way from 1.0, unfortunately.

Here, have some Pride instead.

>>2307653
>14:47 minutes
>of suffering
Model looks interesting, immolated caco & all.

Mostly just after test versions for fun and to help you guys squash bugs, not expecting a full/non-beta release, I mean, it's a free mod that changes shit extensively, my expectations are not stratospheric.

>>2307645
ok

>>2307656
You'd have to come along to IRC then, I don't generally give out dev versions to random people, but you might be able to convince me.

>>2307669
I can do that, actually I should even if you don't give me anything, 'cuz i miss bullshitting with /vr/tards anyway.

>>2307645
i had your share when you weren't looking, sorry.

>>2307648
The votes are in and Pride scored 100% murdermachine vote victory.

Powerups?

Powerups.

Now here's a question for you guys: How does this sound for the amulet's effects:

>15% defense boost
>when melee'd, you let out an a_blast in retaliation
>when the amulet breaks, bigger damaging explosion erupts from the player, and you receive 25 armor points for free

>>2307727
Sounds good, but maybe give it a different sprite, I've seen the hexen amulet too much.

>>2306262
Map30 in Hellbound was probably one of the few legitimately fun maps in the megawad.

>>2307769
I think the amulet of warding is really pretty, but being the only one without a black outline it looks out of place.
I suppose you will rarely see it near other powerups so it doesnt matter.

Whats the best music to play with Dmonsteele? I have my own playlist but I'm open to suggestions.

disco inferno

>>2307885
i just use the jukebox wad

>tfw ultimate doom went up on sale on the psn store for £2.50
>can finally play doom with a DS3 controller
comfy, I wish I didnt have so much college work due in tomorrow though

>>2306262
I remember there being a huge torrent of tons of retro FPS games that used to be posted in these threads as well. What ever happened to that? If anyone has a link could they please post it? Maybe add it to the pastebin too, I can't be the only one that remembers this, can I?

>>2307894
a DS3 will work on a PC with some software mods, and I'm pretty sure the source ports would support it, maybe I am wrong though.

>>2307887
>text that is nearly the same color as the HUD bg
what a stellar design choice

>>2307898
I dont have a PC at the moment where I'm staying though

>>2307898
I'm using my DS3 controller with XInput drivers (through the use of that SCP Driver/wrapper thing) and it's detected in GZDoom and Chocolate Doom. Couldn't seem to get it detected with PrBoom though I could have overlooked something.

>>2307929
then you should have said "so I can finally play it without having a PC" or something...

>>2306262

Ha! That was quick

>>2307935
DS3 controllers are comfy though

Just finished Scythe 2. What a great wad. Levels 28-30 felt somewhat easy compared to 26 and 27.

>>2308064
yes, they're a different style too, lighter and more airy. i found them quite disappointing after map27. but that's the result of a two year break due to mapping burnout, i suppose.

>>2308081
>more airy
That's definitely true, I skipped tons of stuff in 28 and 30, since there's so much space to run around. 27 was straight up easy, even if you killed everything. Hella annoying parts with the lava and no rad suit though.

Then again, if the difficulty trend set in maps 26 and 27 continued for the rest of wad, I would have probably died from aneurysm before finishing it. Map 27 made me savescum more than any other map I've ever played.

What mega is similar to scythe 2 in difficulty? So far I've finished Scythe 1 and 2, AV, Going Down and Valiant. Tried playing through Hellbound but it's been almost exclusively giant dark maps full of hitscanners and I hate that.

>>2308089
>27 was straight up easy

29, I mean.

>>2308090

I think that was the intention, actually, a nice bit of breathing room between 28 and 30.

>decide to finally check out demonsteele
>okay this is pretty cool
>guns feel nice
>special moves are a little weird to do
>discover iron maiden
>pic related

Sgt.Mark:
Didn't play for hours long but at the last test beta of Brutal Doom gibs still cause elevators to get stuck.
In my gameplay; I tried level20 and used the shortcut teleporter to BFG tower with Super Charge in it. Enemy gibs blocked the elevator so I had to cheat my way out

>>2307394
>>2306287
Where can I download this?

>>2308143
https://archive.moe/vr/thread/2223184/#2224615

Okay guise. I done fucked up.

I've never posted here, but I've been lurking for months. But now I've got a thing.

I was mad psyched when I saw that Mark posted the indev v20 of Brutal Doom and threw it into my doom folder.

Firstly, I noticed some chop/lag in my gameplay (was messing around in E1M1 to get used to the new features), anyone else have this? I'm getting roughly 136 frames, so it's definitely not chopping visually.

So, I tried to fix this by defaulting all of my GZDoom settings. This was a critical mistake. Not only did it fail to fix the chop problem, it changed some setting and has made shit all kinds of blurry. All the menu text and my status bar used to be perfectly crisp, now it's just fuzzy. Halp

Can post screenies if needed. I just want the crispness back. Pls

>>2308182
Go into display options, turn off filters.

>>2308182
Sounds like you re-enabled texture filtering. You can change it back in the options, something like display options > opengl options > texture prefernces.

>>2308182
Check it. Display options, openGL options, texture options. Should fix itself no prob.

>>2308190
>>2308192
>>2308194

I love each and every one of you. That even fixed the chop problem. F00kin' fantastic.

I dunno how I feel about the new assault rifle texture. The balance change is great, and exactly, what it needed, but the gun itself kinda looks weird. Shotgun strap too. Kinda wish it either swung more, or less.

>>2308201
i admit the first time i saw the strap i didn't realise what it was and wondered why my gun had suddenly grown a scrotum, but i'm used to it now.

>>2307639
Only thing I can think of is to make it mono and then resample to 11025 Hz or lower.

>>2308208
That was my first thought. I thought it was an artifacting error. Some weird glitch, then I noticed it upon reload. If it moved in response to my movement, that would be pretty sick nasty.

Heyo, I'm not sure if this has been asked, but what's the real difference in v20 between Purist and Doomguy? Just the size of the body?

http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?file=levels/doom2/megawads/200minvr.zip

>This is fucking awful... want a good map you're gonna have to turn to the goons

>>2308259
does SA have some kind of equivalent of /vr/doom? do they map over there? i'd be quite interested to see a goon community wad.

>>2308264
They have a retro shooter thread and there are modders and mapmakers who post but it's really more about talking about the games and releases and not really any kind of development community.

>>2308259

it had an even funnier comment that has been since deleted.

>>2308267

And even then half the time it devolves into talking about modern shooters or fighting about something or another.

>>2308259
I want a SU doom mod.
Secret level includes amethyst sitting on the player's face

>>2308264
AFAIK there are mappers who post there, but they don't do any sort of community mapping or anything

>>2308309
>tfw you'll never hug her and tell her everything is okay

>>2308259
I think he needs to visit SA again since it's clear he hasn't been there since the raptor jesus days.

>>2308259
Why was this deleted?

>>2308330
Presumably somebody mistook it for a Global 15 violation.

>>2306313
JP HUD? Make sure you go into the JP Hud settings and change the positioning/size of the HP bar. I had that issue till I made it smaller to fix my resolution.

>>2308330
>>2308338

Or he deleted it himself.

>>2308346
I was the one who made the post AND asked why it was deleted, because I didn't delete it myself.

>>2308338
But Steven Universe has nothing to do with ponies? Mods being stupid, then.

>>2307620
Did anyone end up doing angled/reload sprites for the D64-Eriance plasma rifle? That would be an 11/10 gun in my book.

Also if they did could I use them for something?

>>2308360
>I was the one who made the post AND asked why it was deleted, because I didn't delete it myself.
and, undoubtedly, the one who posted the comment itself on /idgames too.

>>2308374
Like hell, I haven't even thought of SomethingAwful in years until I saw that and wanted to share it here.

>>2308264
>>2308267
There are plenty of modders and mappers over there but they communicate via pm or irc or in project-specific websites they create (because they are actually COMPETENT) specifically for each project.

VR waves its dick around because they're mentioned by the last Cacoward in passing and one or two modders from ZDF and Zandronum that happen to post here infrequently have gotten Cacowards.

Meanwhile 60-70% of all Cacowards have gone to goons.SAdomination is eternal.

>>2308390

Nah, you're full of it.

>>2308390
I seen someone doing this same brown nosing shit on /v/ a while back for SA.

Stop with this pathetic website wars shit.

>>2308390
Also forgot to mention:

Your precious TerminusEst13? Goon.

In fact he's been a goon since before this board even existed.

He has even said in the FPS thread that he only posts on here, ZDF and Zandronum because it gets the word out about his mods, but he considers SA his home.

>>2308395
see
>>2308393

>>2308379
>Like hell, I haven't even thought of SomethingAwful in years
we have only your word for this, but okay.
>until I saw that and wanted to share it here.
noted. this appears to be a free admission of intent to cause drama, even if you didn't post the original comment.

>>2308395
people who call themselves goons are just as bad as those "anonymous is legion" types. don't take membership of some website as part of your identity, it's super dumb.

>>2308395
>In fact he's been a goon since before this board even existed.
so fucking what, a lot of people have had memberships on websites since before /vr/ was formed
>He has even said in the FPS thread that he only posts on here, ZDF and Zandronum because it gets the word out about his mods, but he considers SA his home.
http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3420790&userid=197236
nope
you are REALLY bad at this

>>2308168
Hold the fucking phone. Where's the one with the most recent added stuff like Security Officers radar?

>>2308393
kmxexii? Goon.
Alfonzo? Goon.
Xaser? Goon.
Cyb? Goon.
Linguica (founder of Doomworld)? Goon.
Scuba Steve? Goon.
Esselfortium? Goon.
Tormentor667? Goon.
Cory Whittle? Goon.
Eriance? Goon.
Ribbiks? Goon.
Chris Lutz? Goon.
Fraggle? Goon.
Nick Baker? Goon.
Vader? Goon.
Carn? Goon.

I can keep going if you want.

>>2308396
pic related

>>2308408

Never released and probably never gonna be since he's more interested in stirring shit than working on it

>>2308407
>buy a forum account

Is this a fucking joke? I just want to read the link!

>>2308409
>pic related
>posts no picture
sounds about right for you

>>2308407
>http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3420790&userid=197236
Wait.
Are you trying to point out the March 1, 2013 date as being AFTER this board existed?
Cause, uh, well...

>>2307769

Done. Swapped it out for a pendant from CV harmony of dissonance

>>2308413
tl;dr: term has said absolutely nothing of the sort and shitposter-kun is just making things up as usual
>>2308416
and now is pretending to be retarded, gj

>>2308415
>>pic related
>>posts no picture
>sounds about right for you
>>2308409
This shitty website ate my pic. Sorry your GodEmporer moot sucks at coding.

>>2308409
just having an account doesn't mean anything. lots of people just have accounts and don't buy into the whole culture of the site or consider it their home. how many of those people consider SA their home?

>>2308410
What really? This is sad...

>>2308419
>>2308416
>>2308409
>>2308395
>>2308390

holy shit are you seriously this mad you aren't getting named as the successor to samsara
this is fucking hilarious, you are a literal child throwing the most over-the-top temper tantrum on this website in a long, long time

if you want the fame, actually release a mod for once instead of shitting things up

What's even the point of this thread if everything is just gonna get fucking deleted?

>>2308418
>and now is pretending to be retarded, gj
This board was added March 18, 2013.
You fail at numbers, gj.

>>2308434
Is this yet another boogeyman?

>>2308448
no, it's the usual one

>>2308434
>if you want the fame, actually release a mod for once instead of shitting things up
how? i mean, isn't he literally banned from every doom forum ever?

>>2308443
>desperately trying to point to register dates to ignore what was said
heh
you're making me respond, but not much else

you played your card too early, mate

>>2308454
Then what was your link supposed to prove, exactly?

>>2308456
you said he considered SA his home and only posted on /vr/ for his mods
he never said anything of the sort
you were caught making shit up and are desperately trying to point to something else

this is seriously your grand plan to get him to try and quit doom within a year? this is saturday morning cartoon villain incompetence.

>>2308459
>this is seriously your grand plan to get him to try and quit doom within a year? this is saturday morning cartoon villain incompetence.
??? What are you talking about?
I WANT TerminusEst13 to continue making Doom mods.

I just want all you chantards to know who that goons run this shit, and you're not the Big Players in the Doom scene you think you are.

For instance: You thought "April Agitation" was a 4chan thing? Seriously??
Nevermind that the video it came from preceded this board by a while and the person that made it had no connection to 4chan.
That's "my friend is the one that came up with this funny O RLY owl, he showed it to me back in 2007" levels of delusion. This board is the 9gag of the Doom world.

>>2308467
let me guess
>>2306186
and >>2306193 TOTALLY wasn't you, huh

Do not reply to the post above. Obvious b8.

Remember:
Report and ignore.

What do you guys recommend in terms of gameplay mods that add new weapons, graphics, monsters, etc, but don't add new levels? Think of stuff like Doom Expanded or even DoomRPG. I've been itching to play through Doom 1 and 2 with a good gameplay mod recently.

>>2308182
Where could I find the indev v20 version?
Not that I like Brutal Doom or anything.

>>2308483
Brutal Doom, Samsara + extra heroes, Russian Overkill, Demonsteele etc.

>>2308485
in the previous thread. mark asked us not to spread the link outside of it and i think we should respect that.

>>2308483
how different are you looking to make it? i mean do you still want to be a space marine with those kind of weapons or something completely different?

>>2308472
Nope. I can't even see the posts you're linking to. It's funny that you think that I am though.

I have nothing against TerminusEst13. I just think it's hilarious when you think he's "a 4chan modder" when he's not.

Shows how desperate the neckbeard denizens of this board is to latch onto the fame and accomplishments of others, since they lack any of their own.

>>2308486
>extra heroes

so that's the coverup name for the addons now?

>>2308492

wait, yes

>>2308491
lel
try again when he starts crediting SA instead of /vr/ and when he starts explicitly naming SA as developmental influence instead of /vr/

>>2308492
Yeah. It's no longer this shitty ass-broken addon. It's now quite decent and fun.
Most people enjoy it.

>>2308494
i seem to recall most credit of samsara predated /vr/ and in fact went to /v/...

>>2308498
>It's no longer this shitty ass-broken addon. It's now quite decent and fun.

it is? honest-to-good question

>>2308502

Nope.
It's still bad.

>>2308502
Don't listen to this shitter: >>2308503

The addons are okay now, really. Some classes are still boring and feel like a 1:1 copy of BJ, but others are fun and play surprisingly good just like their original counterparts.
Give it a try m8.

>>2308502
Don't listen to this suckass: >>2308508

The add-ons are still bad. Classes are redundant, they have the bare minimum of polish, tipboxes and HUDs are fucked up out the ass, and there's still server crashes.

>>2308515
>and there's still server crashes.

why are they still allowed in the BE servers? I don't get it

one of these days BE will go kaput and with that, one mod will be finally put to sleep. guess which one I'm talking about.

>>2308515
>>2308508
>>2308503
>>2308502

Guys
guys

guys

why doesn't he

check them out for himself and makes his own opinion

>>2308520
>spoiler
Let's hope it's Samsara. Terminus is not a good programmer anyways, he would never understand ijon's code.
And now...now we wait for Demonsteele to encounter the same problem.

>>2308525
>Let's hope it's Samsara.

it's not. try harder.

>>2308490
I'd still like it to be centered on the normal style.
Space Marines, demons, futuristic guns, etc.

>>2308526
mega man death match

It's sad when someone who can make good work instead resorts to shitposting because, "you guise aren't as cool as you think you are abloo abloo abloo, and I'm gonna make sure you know you aren't cool!" Like, damn nigga.

I don't think you should be apart of video game communities.

>>2308537

Let him pretend, it's the only thing he has left.

>>2308537
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_rage_and_narcissistic_injury

>>2308534

Yes__

Back when BE was "closing" last year everyone shat their rping asses thinking it was going to be the end, but it wasn't. You know this to be true, there's rarely a non-BE MM8BDM server these days.

>>2308537
but then who will say that TerminusEst13 (named TerminusEst13) is worse than hitler (if he was named TerminusEst13)

TerminusEst13

TerminusEst13

have you gotten the name he's trying to shitpost about yet????
it's TerminusEst13
just in case you missed it the first fourteen times he posted about it

i've snuck too many monty pythons in this one enemy to be considered healthy

>>2308550
Are you the Colorful Hell guy? That looks pretty neat. He bleeds axes doesn't he

I like doom, and I wanna make a map. Are there GZDoombuilder tutorials out there? I can't even figure out how to make a flat surface with no walls

>>2308485
y'didnt hear it from me... But I would take a look at the last thread. It might be posted there somewhere :3

Just got an older linux box up and running and I am looking for older shooters that are not cs 1.6 and that can also be run in wine or is Linux native.

If the online is active at all, that would be awesome. Thanks if anyone has suggestions off hand.

>>2308558
Chubzdoomer has got a fuckton of thorough tutorial videos for a lot of stuff like that on YouTube (slopes, 3d floors, and 3d floor lifts that don't kill you while riding it), plus he's got a deep, soothing southern accent.

>>2308569
Have you considered DooM, or DooM II: Hell on Earth?

I've heard both those are good.

>>2308520
They made a special autorestart function to Best-Ever for specifically for the addons and some GvH shit crashing all the time.

>>2308494
>goons trying this hard to be relevant in 2015
lmao did you pay 10$ for basic forum features and feel the need to justify it?

>>2308569
all valve FPSes run on linux

so are UT2004, Quake 1/2/3

>>2308570

Thanks bro. I'll start studying tonight

Zandro 2.0 stable release when

>>2308582
when the planets align

>>2308582

Sometime after GMOTA gets all of the custom monsters and before TSP Mk 2's first release

>>2308586
Aren't like 3/4 of the custom monsters in GMOTA already?

And how is TSP Mk 2 going? There's been no news since the announcement and I'm not sure if that's good or bad.

>>2308582
It'll release never

>>2308596

I still got pain elementals, fatsos, the hell nobles, lost souls, cyberdemons, masterminds, archviles, and the boss brain. Hopefully the nobles will come in the next version.

Not sure about TSP though. We gotta get Marty in here

>>2308603
Do you already have ideas and resources for those and just haven't implemented them? Or you not sure yet what you're gonna do with them?

>>2307897
huh... I kind thought more people would be interested in this than me...

>>2308638

I'm interested, I just don't remember if it ever existed.

>>2308657
I can assure you it did... maybe I should just search the archive
or I would if I could remember it's url

>>2307897
>>2308638
>>2308657
>>2308665
I know what it is you're talking about, it was compiled primarily by someone going by the name of Megafaggot !H/n41uFjJo and it was called "Retro First Person Shooter Compilation" back in 2013 (seems like a really long time ago now).

http://kickass.to/retro-first-person-shooter-compilation-t7701264.html

>>2308182
Proof nobody likes filters

Oblige is one hell of a drug.

>>2308694
Don't you just love it when Doomguy's face perfectly matches a screenshot?

>tfw can do good spriting
>tfw can do good mapping
>tfw have idea for dream gameplay mod
>tfw have tons of ideas written down

>mfw can't code at all
It hurts

>>2308728
ask for help my man

>>2307639
You could convert it to SNES format (BRR) then back. There's programs to do that but I can't get them to work. Maybe you'll have better luck.

>>2308081
>two year break
it was more a four year break. the original release was 2005. the updated release was 2009.

>>2308089
>What mega is similar to scythe 2 in difficulty?
Speed of Doom and Resurgence.

>>2308728
/vr/ has a couple of good coders floating around looking for projects to work on, hop in the irc

>>2308089
>Tried playing through Hellbound but it's been almost exclusively giant dark maps full of hitscanners and I hate that.

Yeah. Hellbound isn't quite as good as some people make it out to be. Manyof the maps are a snoozefest.

>>2308728
Same shit here but:
>>2308730
would sound like "pls make me a mod lol".

What I have in mind is a lengthy story-bound "tribute" mod, for many old-school FPSes, very different in gameplay from DooM (slower paced).

It would've had the hero to run through different FPS universes (as ell as mod-universes and original ones) in attempt to outrun the end-of-the-world. The universes are collapsing and are merging into one chaotic mess around him, places mash together, monsters from different dimensions warring against each other, and the nameless hero in the middle of it all.

Also 64 levels, over 32 of which I have most of the concepts (what is map supposed to be like) done.

If anybody is interested in a cool story, I can share. If no - I'll stfu.

Also:
In previous thread somebody talked about Quakespasm as a superior Quake engine. What about Tenebrae?

>>2308769
>>2308728
Red "can" as "can't" here.

Basically can't do any good, only have ideas.

Iife hurts.

>>2308728
>good at mapping
>good at spriting
Just get someone else to do the rest of the work for ya, think of it this way, you're one of the few people who can do art in comparison to the over abundance of people who want to do coding and that's all they can do if at all.

codefags need artfags and vise versa.

>>2308728
It's okay Terminus, we all know that feel
except for ijon

>>2308791
>trying this hard to force it

>>2308791
You talk about him so much you'd think you'd have a crush on the nigga.

>>2308835

tsun tsun

>>2308607

I got ideas and resources for the nobles and archvile. An idea for the pain elementals.(winged slimes maybe) and an idea for fatsos (big fat ass armored guys)

I'd kinda like an armored maulotaur for a cyber replacement. And some kinda wizard bastard for the mastermind

>>2308769
Nah it's only "pls make me a mod lol" when you can't map, can't sprite, can't code but have "loads of great ideas".

Having 2/3 is great. Hell, if you look at the original Doom team, only John Romero could do 2/3 (coding and mapping). The rest could only do 1/3 each or 0/3 in the case of Doom 2-era Sandy Peterson

>>2308952
>Petersen hate maymay
Who do so many people shit on him?
He was an alright dude and his maps were good, especially the ultimate ones (and FUCK Tom Hall).

>>2308995
>the ultimate ones

Petersen had nothing to do with E4.

>>2308778
I think I could make a mod if I put my heart into it, I just don't have the motivation, so i'll never ammount to anything.

>>2308995
Don't be so agitated, I'm just joking around. But I'll note that
1. Petersen didn't make anything for Ultimate Doom
2. The levels that are generally regarded as Doom 2's worst - Tricks and Traps, Suburbs, Nirvana & The Chasm - were all made by Petersen, as were Doom's worst - Halls of the Damned, Mt Erebus & Limbo (although Tom Hall's partially to blame for that).

However Petersen has made really good levels too - Entryway, for example.

The thing about Patersen is that his map design is wildly inconsistent, so his bad maps are much worse than McGee's (and I don't think Romero even has a single bad map to his name). That's not to say all his maps are terrible though.

Overall though, would you dispute that as far as mapping goes Romero > McGee > Petersen?

>>2308952
>Tried to map. Maps are crap.
>can't sprite. No artistic sense and 0 drawing skills
>barely able to code. Best achievment - "optimising" BD by removing 80% of effects from spagetty to make it run on 1700 GHz Celeron.
>tons on tons of ideas.

Life hurts.
>How does one becomes a gamedesigner?

Also... What about Tenebrae?

>>2309020
>Tricks and Traps

Why do people hate this map? Its fun as heck.

>>2309056
Is that the engine that took the lighting effects from idTech4 and shoved it in quake?

>>2309082
Two reasons, I think:
1. The "fuck you" trick bridge right at the end descending into an inescapable death pool.
2. Most of the map is completely optional with no clue as to which parts are actually required, which can lead to a sense of wasted effort the first time playing it.

>>2309082
No idea.
Minus the optional areas, I've always really liked it and The Pit, another map that gets complained about a lot in here.

>>2309082
because there are no prostitutes of femmy boys in it
OH HO HO

>>2308686
yup, that is the one, and now I remember that guy, mostly for his stupid name and him getting very angry anytime anyone pointed out how stupid his name was.

>>2309117
Wait, people don't like The Pit? I thought that was an example of one of the good Doom 2 levels. Way way better then the awful city levels.

But I generally like doom 1's levels better so I don't know.

>>2309082
Tricks and Traps is like a pinball machine was substituted for a dungeon in a Zelda game. It makes no sense, you're not using any of the skills you've developed up until then, it doesn't play like the rest of the game, and you have no way of knowing what it's about when you first try it. It's possible to like it. I'll even say there's nothing wrong with liking it - it's just that liking the level is almost completely unrelated to whatever you like about Doom.

>>2309129
Yeah I love the Pit, too. Most action packed Doom 2 level for sure.

Doomero made it again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPvMqo4rZYs

>>2309114
>1. The "fuck you" trick bridge right at the end descending into an inescapable death pool.

I will admit that this caught me off guard, back when I first played it as a kid.

>>2309114
Both of those should've stopped being issues two decades ago since they only apply to your first run, but even then :
>player gets mad that a map named TRICKS AND TRAPS has a single lethal trap in it
>playing a game known to have lots of secrets and sometimes multiple routes; hates exploration and combat that only awards supplies
Who the fuck is this person and why is he still playing Doom?

>>2309135
>you're not using any of the skills you've developed up until then
The majority of the map is fighting hordes of enemies. Flying horde, weak teleporting horde, melee horde, surrounding melee horde, you-should-really-let-those-infight horde and AAHH GRAB THE INVUL SPHERE horde.
The falling bridge is complete bullshit and the correct path is also pure trial and error, but so are most maps to a lesser extent. Compared to the city levels this is a very straightforward map.
What skills are you talking about exactly? The only maps that fucks up everything you've learned is the spirit world and obviously icon of sin.

>>2308791
Terminus can't map though :^)

>>2309197
It's not that it has a lethal trap in it. It's that the lethal trap is right at the end, that every previous trap is escapable and that every previous trap has given rewards for triggering it. The rest of the level teaches you that traps are escapable with skill and doing so will give you a reward (even if it is just supplies) and then it ends with an inescapable trap that gives you nothing. It's entirely reasonable to see the bridge descending and think that there'll be a reward in the death floor because that's what the level's taught you so far and, anyway, every other death floor in the game and in Doom 1 were escapable.

Also, on an unrelated note, it's not that they only give out supplies, it's that the supplies are weaksauce (usually less than you'll spend actually getting to them) unless you find the secret in the reward area. Without the secrets, each optional arm is just a tax on your health and ammo for picking the wrong door. No other level in the game does this. When they have sidepaths, they're either shortcuts or give a greater reward than what you spent getting there.

>>2309267
>every other death floor in the game and in Doom 1 were escapable.

I forget off the top of my head about Doom 2, but in Doom 1 there were a couple of inescapable ones, for instance the 2 in e1m3

>>2309056
>replies to the guy that says that can sprite and map saying "same here"
>can't actually sprite, map, OR code

>>2309285
Ok, yeah, forgot about those ones. But the pools at the start of e1m3 were right at the start and really obvious. No traps there.

>>2309267
Granted that you have a split second to react, but I would never think about getting a reward by skillfully not doing anything on a lowering plataform on top of a damaging floor.
If anything the level teaches you that you have to react fast to not die, not outsmarting the traps. It also teaches you to save your damn game, even if you have invulnerability and only one door remains, your ass still can be kicked.

>>2309197
>What skills are you talking about exactly? The only maps that fucks up everything you've learned is the spirit world and obviously icon of sin.

Sorry, could you explain how these maps contradict everything you've learned? I know them too well to judge, I lost new player perspective a long time ago.

>>2308554
>>2308550

>bleed axes

Why not bouncing, homing axes?

>>2309369
MAP30 is obvious, you never had to fire rockets into a small hole in a wall before, and it's not terribly obvious.

MAP28 requires you to shoot a random wall in order to open the door to the exit. It's a very bullshit thing to do.

Just beat MAP29. Pushed me to the absolute limit. John Romero is a fucking genius.

Kind of want to make a compatibility mod for DRPG-RLA and Colourful Hell.

Obviously the higher difficulties would only spawn the relative rarity and difficulty enemys in place of the normal enemys.

AE:

Armageddon: Reds, Blacks, and Whites only.

>>2309415
The walls with the scribbling in the meat pillar room? That should be obvious enough.

>>2309287
see >>2308778
misreading happens because sometimes our brain shows us what we want to see instead of whats actually there.

>>2309101
idk maybe. It also added quite a lot of environmental effects (smokes, lightshafts, etc.)

>>2309369
>>2309421
Spirit world : "secrets" are required for level progression. The fake wall is obvious if you saw enemies cross it, while the gap in the wall and chair are easy enough to find. Shootable wall isnt. If you missed the secrets in tricks and traps you probably dont even know shootable walls exist.
Icon of Sin : the only way to beat the level is to deliberately and repeatedly fall into damaging floor so you can fire in midair into a gap in the wall that doesnt match any of the available heights. You dont have to do anything remotely similar in the game.
Infinite enemies outside of archie revivals and N! too.

>>2309454
Suburbs was the level that really confused and annoyed me. Fuck that ending structure with the imps

Also I think shootable walls are mandatory in at least a couple Peterson maps before MAP28, like The Courtyard

>>2309454
>deliberately and repeatedly fall into damaging floor so you can fire in midair into a gap
>fire in midair
Dude, you fucking WHAT.

>>2309415
>MAP30 is obvious, you never had to fire rockets into a small hole in a wall before, and it's not terribly obvious.

Oh, Yes, now you mention it I think I only knew the proper way to do this one because I read it on the internet. I don't recall ever having trouble with map28 though. No idea why. Guess I got lucky.

>>2309465
i think to beat the citadel you have to run at a soulsphere or armor to trigger teleports for 2 of the keys, and for the soulsphere you only trigger the teleport going one way. at least that's how i experienced it in chocolate doom. i didn't need either and ran around for an hour trying to figure that shit out

>>2309465
I cant recall any besides The Courtyard, but it has a switch texture, not just a random wall.

>>2309469

I never figured out how to defeat the Icon of Sin until I consulted a walkthrough. I just couldn't understand why this demon head wasn't dying.

>>2309020
>Tricks and Traps
It's gimmicky as fuck, but I like it.

>Halls of the Damned
I'd put it in my top 5 if it weren't for the earliest parts. Overall I'd say the map has fantastic atmosphere.

>>2309471
oh yes, you need to get into the big secret in the north west to get the blue key, unless you can do a really awkward strafe jump off the red key platform, which i've never managed to do, but i think i've seen done in TAS runs.

>>2309483
heh, quite.

>>2309483
i knew about idclip before i knew the proper way.

>>2309490
once again we see the impossibility of ranking the maps in the game. for every player who hates some map, there is someone else who thinks it is one of the best. for my part, i think mount erebus is great and can't understand its inclusion on "worst map" lists.

>>2309507
>i think mount erebus is great and can't understand its inclusion on "worst map" lists.

I think Mt Erebus is a very important map, Romero said it was the first map that gave him a sense of 'open exploration'.
It probably led to the decision to make the city levels in doom 2 and head the levels in an even less linear design direction.

How do you make menu graphics?

>>2309520
i have a script that calls imagemagick to do it. but you probably want DoomWord, i think it's called?

>>2309520
http://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1345299
maybe this thread will help, i dunno

I beat the Icon of Sin! I shoved my rockets up Hell's ass!

>>2309540
you have an unusual interpretation of Doom demon anatomy.

>>2309507
Mt Erebus gets included on "worst maps" lists because it's ugly as fuck. The same reason applies to Suburbs (although the ending structure at the end also gets flak for being confusing, see >>2309465 ) and Nirvana (although that's just all-around crap).

I don't want to give the impression that people hate some of the maps mentioned because they have a confusing bit. Industrial Zone has a confusing bit (go into a teleporter then walk back into the exit to go to somewhere else again) but it's redeemed by the rest of the map being high quality.

>>2309540
dude what.

Also, working on a boss of sorts. Thoughts? This would be one of it's weapons from the side.

>SF2012 Map 19
>Probably the most atrocious map[ugh, lava textures EVERYWHERE] with a big bunch of monsters
>Project MSX already makes the experience worse
HOWEVER
>Throwing a super charged greanade to the ceiling kills the Romero head and skips the level
And that's how i managed to get past the fourth most impossible part of SF2012+MSX
Pics are going to be shown in the next post

>>2309604
[1/3]
Gee look at this piece of shit design.

>>2309605
[2/3]
Now i aim up the super greanade in that stupid gap

>>2309607
>>2309605

>that texture layout

fuck sakes how did that get in there. whatever. i can't map worth a shit and i still wouldn't pick such unmatching textures.

>>2309607
[3/3]
And now the big OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO sound that icon of sin makes triggers hear along with 25 revenants, 15 imps and 1 cyberdemon killing me which makes me death skip.
WHOOPS.

>>2309612
Maybe tomorrow i will post the third, second and first most impossible parts of SF2012+MSX
But for now. Fuck this.

>>2309607
how come your doomguy is able to look upwards

[3/3]
Wrong screenshot, mean to post something more clean

>>2309604 >>2309605 >>2309607 >>2309610 >>2309612 >>2309613 >>2309615
i love TimeOfDeath's crazy texture themes. i wish i had the balls to release a map that looked like that.

>>2309586
>Mt Erebus gets included on "worst maps" lists because it's ugly as fuck.
yeah, going to have to agree to disagree there.
>>2309604 >>2309605 >>2309607 >>2309610 >>2309612 >>2309613 >>2309615
i love TimeOfDeath's crazy texture themes. i wish i had the balls to release a map that looked like that.

>>2309624
I think it's that red & blue splodgy texture. The one that looks like a Jackson Pollock painting done just in red and blue. That's what it is for me. I like it in small amounts, just not in huge walls of the stuff.

So uh. Doomguy's hand looks kinda interesting if you erase most of it except for the ridge of the glove

>>2309639
Newsflash: things look like dicks when edited to look like dicks.

>>2309454
Yeah that's a good one. I remember being stuck on MAP28 The Spirit World for hours. I had to ask someone who beat the game for help. This was only a couple years ago.

That chainsaw secret in E1M2 Nuclear Plant was always confusing to me too. Sometimes it was open and sometimes it wasn't, and I could never tell what caused it.

>>2309628
HOW DARE YE BESMIRCH FIREBLU-- yeah all right i see your point. but i will note uglyness is subjective. on which subject, i will also recommend Doomworld Mega Project 2012 map16.
http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?id=17115

oh yes and i am eagerly awaiting 50 Shades Of Graytall

time for another round of "go to the doomworld pictures thread and bring something back"

http://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1354678

>>2309661
http://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1354889

>>2309662
http://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1355180
(bit weird...)

>>2309663
http://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1355291
someone pass this on to 88alice

>>2309661
>>2309662
These look nice

>>2309645

Newsflash: if that theory is correct, then ur ghey xdddd

>>2309454
>fall into damaging floor so you can fire in midair into a gap in the wall that doesnt match any of the available heights.

Its easier to time your rockets as the pillar is going up, you know.

>>2309828
pretty sure its easier to do both

>>2309856
>easier to do both

Easier than what?

Why is GZDoom Builder called that? A lot of its additional features arent even limited to GZDoom.

>>2309958
It's just a name, does it really matter. But I agree it's somewhat misleading, I know of specific instances of people who never thought to try to use it because of the name.

>>2309932
I wouldnt say easier since I almost never score a hit on my way down, but doubling your attempts to hit the brain means the source of endless demons dies faster. I dont see a reason not to do it.

>>2310031
Oh, I do agree that doing both is a good idea. My original post was merely pointing out that he could do an easier method.

Mark of the BD fame, are you still here? have some bugs.

Hwat port is picrelated is from?

>>2310052

Looks like just Quake II.

>>2310070
>RT shadows
>Bloom
>godrays
>bump mapping
>HighRes weapon texture and model
>High Res fonts and icons
>Pad icon from Doom3

>Looks like just Quake II

ORLY?