/vr/ - Retro Games

They way Nintendo's headed, I want them to leave their classics the hell alone.

Or would you like them to give Zelda the Square-Enix treatment?

>>2300985
Why are you avatarfagging with landscapes in every thread? Get a fucking trip already.

>>2301005

Why are you such a sour cunt in every thread you comment on? Pop a fucking Midol already.

What would a sequel add to it?

It would completely undermine the game's ending.

>>2300985
What's up with these rocks?

>>2301013

I don't know. That's partly why I named the picture that way (the Namib desert, which is the location of that pic, is the hottest place on earth). The title is my layman's guess.

>>2300985
Part of the NE Sahara Desert, in Libya and Egypt. Weathered basalt remains from old volcanoes, sandstone broken down into sand, mostly quartz but lots of other minerals. No moisture and extreme temps over millions of years.

oh god

That droopy sad whale face

It's like left shark's lost long vidya cousin.

>>2301016
That's not the Namib Desert, which is in Africa. And actually Death Valley in California still holds the record for hottest recorded temperature on the planet. Central Africa gets very, very hot though.

>>2301045

Go argue with the original photographer, dude, not me. As far as Death Valley, no. It is _one of_ the hottest places on earth (and indeed a previous record holder) but new data points to Namib as hottest and Atacama as driest.

the hottest place in the world is you

>>2301053
Jeez, I'm not arguing, just trying to be helpful. One guy asked about the rocks, and you gave a wrong answer. Whatever.

>>2301061

I gave the answer the original photographer who posted it to reddit's earthporn subforum gave. I had no reason to doubt the authenticity of where he took the picture.

>>2301070
Giving a wrong answer honestly doesn't make it any less wrong.

>>2301075

>I have personally seen this rock outcropping with my own two eyes, fatty! While I'm at it, do you know how pleasant Eldorado is this time of year?

>>2301070
you should leave now

What is up with people wanting sequels to everything? Can't you just enjoy a game on its own ? If you've played it to the point where you're bored of it there are always other games to try, movies to see, books to read, places to go to. Give it a few years and you can come back to the same game with a completely different perspective.

>>2301138
not to mention everyone's ignoring the oracle games for some reason

>>2300981
>>there will never be a sequel to Majora's Mask
>>you will never visit Termina again

>>2300981
Koholint's gone, man. You can't visit it again. Link saved the Windfish, why would the island come back.

The Oracle games are prequels to LA with basically the exact same gameplay, though.

>your gf is a transsexual whale
>in a video game
>OP is literally obsessing over an imaginary tranny whale

>>2301124

Why, because I used to visit reddit? Get a grip, sperglord.

>>2301151
This. I got my sequels; I'm happy.

>>2301161
>The Oracle games are prequels to LA
no they are not

>>2301360
Even before Nintendo released this timeline, the Oracle games literally end with Link leaving for Hyrule on the exact same boat he's on when LA starts. The manual for LA states that Link went off to visit "other kingdoms" and was returning home when he got caught in a storm and ended up on Koholint.

The connection between LttP and the Oracle games can be argued against somewhat because of Zelda acting like she's never met Link before, but the connection between Oracles and LA is pretty clear.

It's absolutely not hot to see this filter.

At least there's this. http://www.romhacking.net/utilities/966/

>>2300981
Don't ask me, I'm just a kid.

>>2301557
NIE OHNE KONDOM

>>2300981
>that fucking shit hq filter

I feel Link's Awakening has no need for a sequel, anything that'd take place after it would just cheapen the original.

However. I totally want to see another fast paced and more fluid overhead Zelda adventure with as much variety as Link's Awakening had. Goddamn game still blows my mind with some of the cool puzzle gimmicks and the 2D segments.

>>2301012
Maybe it'll make the original actually seem good? Or, rather, good to people other than those who don't score into the triple digits on IQ test. Seriously, why do people who like this game come off as blithering retards? I swear, the only thing LA fans ever got on any standardised test was drool.

>>2302152
That was pretty good.

>>2302152
But the whole point of the game is that the island lives in Link's memory. Having him come back there would make the whole journey meaningless.

>>2300981
Considering Link Between Worlds is a thing, I wouldn't be so sure about that.
You don't need a sequel. Nintendo needs to look forward, not backwards.
Unless it's to make New Super Metroid. Or any Metroid. Please, Nintendo, feed me Metroid.

I'd even probably buy Other M 2 at this point.

Why do Zelda fans have a need for the games to exist on a timeline? It's not like any of that shit was planned out in advance. They're not connected, who cares? I don't get it.

>>2302574
actual, literal autism

>>2302574

Nerds are obsessive about their hobbies.

>>2301371
>The resurrection of Ganon
>The resurrection of Ganon
>The reincarnation of Ganondorf

Deepest lore

>>2302574
Don't know. I like it better without a hard timeline.

>>2302591

Now that I've seen what they've done with it, I agree.

That...That seems to be a depressingly common reaction I have these days to Nintendo's efforts. ;-;

>>2302590

Can't argue with you there. Hell, Twilight Princess would've been a better game with Ganondorf out of the picture. It's no wonder the trope "Hijacked By Ganon" exists.

>Historia declares LttP Link MIA after LA

All my hate, rage, and why

>>2302679
>>2302591
>>2302590
>>2302574
>>2301371
>>2301161
Every thread until Zelda fans stop being autistic.

>>2302692
It is like asking Sonic fans to stop being autistic

>>2302692
>Jungle Beat and Konga not on the same timeline

bullshit
BULLSHIT

>>2302692
>>2302694
Might as well say "until a cure is found for autism"

>>2302692
Just as bad as the Zelda one IMHO.

>>2302712
No, I think Nintendo did a much better job with the official Donkey Kong timeline. If you look at the hints in the games, almost everything there makes sense.

>>2302692
I refuse to accept Donkey Konga as canon.

>>2302716
They're both as bad as each other in my book. No-one asked for them, and they didn't improve anything.

It just makes me sad.

>>2302724
Why does it make you sad? That looks just as autistic as those who take it too seriously.

>>2302726
It ruins the myth.

>>2302724
>No-one asked for them
>implying you're a true Donkey Kong fan
I was begging for an official timeline for years, you're just jelly all of my theories were proven correct.

>>2302731
now if only there was a Mario timeline

>>2302731
That's okay then. But I feel like it ruined the mystique of the games.

>>2302574
Easy, because Zelda fans are fucking retarded.

It's not like the games were unconnected before the offical timeline was released.

Zelda 2 was always a direct sequel to the original game.

They decided to make a fresh start with LttP, although they did throw in a vague "this takes place hundreds of years before the NES games" line. Link's Awakening was marketed at release as a direct sequel to LttP, and they intentionally left the "Link visited other lands" opening in between the two games that was eventually filled by the Oracle games.

OoT was anther fresh start, but it was also the start of where they actually did plan to keep things connected, because every game released after OoT (except Oracles) had some connection to that game in it. MM was a direct sequel, WW and TP both were set up as continuations of separate timelines created in OoT, and SS is a prequel.

All of that was known and clear to anyone who'd played the games before there was an official timeline. The only new thing the timeline added was connecting the SNES/NES/GB games to everything else.

Frankly the people yelling "NO TIMELINE ITS BETTER IF EVERYTHINGS UNCONNECTED!" seem more autistic to me than any other strain of Zelda fan I've met.

>>2302574
Curiosity in reference to WW and TP (and probably Minish cap with the whole "hat" thing).

They seemed to both be "immediately after OoT" so they were wondering which game did LttP took place after. Eventually Nintendo said "no history just ADVENTURE" and fans were disappointed then they released the "canon" timeline and now fans are probably agreeing on their last statement.

At least the Zelda fans aren't making OC donut steel characters (unless you count femLink).

>>2302748
WW seems like it's supposed to be ages after OoT.

>>2302761
and flooding the entire world after the events would've taken said ages.

those series that took after WW like Phantom Hourglass and Spirit Tracks egged such theories on.

>>2302679
To the OP's original point, I do wish Nintendo would make a game that tells what eventually happened to LttP Link. For awhile I hoped Link Between Worlds would be it, but nope.

>>2302692
This is fake, right?

>>2302574
>Why do Zelda fans have a need for the games to exist on a timeline?
To be fair, many of the games blatantly reference previous ones.

ALttP is a prequel to the first two games, and LA is obviously a sequel of sorts to ALttP. OoT also seemingly explains the back story of ALttP too, if I remember right.

I agree some people fixate way too fucking much on continuity and timelines, though.

>>2302692
>The great banana split
>Yoshi's Island DS on top
>Taking this seriously

Are you all retarded in here?

>>2302958
How is it not the first game if there's baby DK in Yoshi's Island DS?

>>2302692

I'm giving you a slow approving nod, Anon.

Historia may or may not mean jackshit aside

I as well want a sequel to LA, I myself thought the Oracle games were sequels and that spend the rest of his days getting it on with Din, but since it isn't I hope they deliver one day.

>>2300981
wasn't it all in his head and the whole egg thing about him dying if he never woke up?

technically, couldn't he just get knocked on the head or just fucking dream the place again?

>>2302732
Since Donkey Kong and Mario share a continuity it does raise questions about which timeline each Mario game takes place in, not to mention Mario's age. Also, could the events of Mario's Time Machine have further altered the timeline? Has Nintendo said anything official about this?

I would just like more 2d zelda games that are like LA, LTTP, LOZ, and the oracle games. I just love the game play so much.

>>2303289
Yes. Miyamoto said that there is no continuity between most games, but some are connected. NSB most likely takes place after Sunshine. But the Koopalings seem to actually die in Super Mario World, so that probably takes place in a separate universe. Probably the same universe as SMB3 though because of the ghost ship.

>>2303252

It's the presence of the Windfish that makes the whole thing "work". When Link got knocked unconscious, he entered a collective dream between him, the Windfish, and (though he didn't know it at the time) a shadowy third that was preventing the Windfish from ever waking up.

The identity of the third is never revealed in the "real" world, but in the dream it manifests itself through the dream-avatar known as the Nightmare Dethl.

Every time I come to this board there is always fucking Zelda threads on the first page. Fuck you Zeldafags and your oversaturated series of shit games.
The first one was great yeah, I can play that any time of the week but the rest is just shit. Your hallowed gameboy game I gave up out of sheer boredom, the same with Link to The Past on SNES.
The Zelda games are overrated as fuck. Stop making fucking threads about it and find some decent games to play.
And stop sucking Nintendo's dick.

>>2303289
As far as I know Miyamoto only said that some games are connected in continuity but most aren't. Which games are and aren't is open for debate. Wasn't Mario's Time Machine liscensed though? It's probably non-canon.

>>2302548

> Nintendo needs to look forward, not backward

> tfw no cyberpunk Zelda

>>2303337
But I believe he's said similar things about Zelda in the past. IMO it's still open for debate, as possible connections between the Marioverse and Zeldaverse (even if only in the form of rare interdimensional travel)

>>2302574
Because its fun to speculate about that kind of shit.
There used to be a fan made timeline from back before the DS games came out that I thought was pretty cool.

I dont remember the specifics and its impossible to find now, since google only pulls up the official one. Someone had taken both the artwork maps and in game maps, and used them to try and determine what order the games came in, explaining certain things away as land having moved due to magic/plates. And then combined that with the ingame lore.
it was something like
>minish cap > zelda1+2 > OT/MM > TP > WW > 4 swords > S/A > aLttP > LA
Though its completely pointless to try and figure this shit out, since you can warp into almost any order, and there was zero intention of making them into a timeline at creation. but fun nonetheless.

>>2302732
Mario is under the effects of shrooms so, when asked, he was not sure how in space and time everything happened but he hinted it may have happened in a fractal fashion more than a linear or branching one.

>>2303371
>cyberpunk Zelda

Holy fuck that would be awesome.

Would probably piss off a lot of the purists, though.

>>2302704
A cure was actually found years ago. They're just not releasing it to the public, because if autism was cured no one would want to be a research scientist or engineer, which are pretty important jobs.

>>2300985

What are you smoking? Nintendo has released several re-iterations of previous Zelda titles and almost every time they're great. Hell, they made a sequel out of left field for Link to the Past and it was fantastic. Nintendo is NOT the same company Square is.

>>2301042

you're like 12 aren't you?

>>2304579

>What are you smoking?

I don't know, but It tastes vaguely of cabbages and isn't nearly as strong as your shit. Give me some now you bastard.

> Nintendo has released several re-iterations of previous Zelda titles and almost every time they're great.

Citation needed.

>Hell, they made a sequel out of left field for Link to the Past and it was fantastic.

Blatantly false. Next!

>Nintendo is NOT the same company Square is.

I hear if you believe that enough Miyamoto himself scoops you up in a cloud of day-old teriyaki farts and fire and airlifts you to heaven, which for some reason looks a lot like Japan but all the chicks are naked and look like JAV idols.

Seriously, was there any part of your post whatsoever you intended me to legitimately respond to? It's like you hand-crafted it for trolling.

>>2304389

I actually thought the fan timelines made the most sense. Mine, for the record, is:

Minish Cap>Ocarina of Time>(SPLIT!!!)

(CHILD)Majora's Mask>Twilight Princess>Four Swords Adventures>A Link to the Past>Link's Awakening>Oracle of Ages/Seasons>The Hyrule Fantasy>Adventure of Link

(ADULT)The Wind Waker>Phantom Hourglass>Spirit Tracks

After seeing how shitty Skyward Sword was going to be I decided to call it quits with teh zedLa!!!! before Nintendo can rape it any further on their path to becoming the next Sega.

>>2304680
I remember those, but to be honest it'd be much better to cut out ALttP and make it another timeline.

>>2304680
>Blatantly false. Next!
What part of that is false? From everything I've read Link Between Worlds is indeed a pretty much direct sequel to LttP. I don't like either game so I can't confirm but that was my understanding.

Also many, many people who were LttP fans were praising LbtW quite highly.

There was a sequel, though. Phantom Hourglass.

>>2300981
Koholint Island and Marin will always be in my heart and thoughts, anon. You should keep them close as well.

>>2305986

It's bullshit because making a LTTP sequel was in no way "out of left field", it followed the same fucking sorry-ass skit that the Majora's Mask remake did:

1. Fans love old game.
2. Fans demand remake/re-release/sequel of old game.
3. Aonuma says no.
4. Stupid autistic fans won't leave well enough alone; bug Nintendo about it so much Miyamoto & Co. get fucking sick and tired of hearing about it.
5.

Miyamoto: Remake/re-release/do a sequel to this so they'll shut up!

Aonuma: What? WHY?! It would be rehashed garbage...Can't I make something new and fresh?

Miyamoto: Our remaining fans do not want that. Maybe if you did [INSERT_MINOR_GAMEPLAY_TWIST_HERE] you could make it fresh as well...

Aonuma: Hmmmm.... It could work.....

6. The game is made. It inevitably leverages Nintendo's latest poorly-executed hardware fad for -=MAXIMUM OVERGIMMICK!!!=-
7. Said game is released. Nintendo fans lap it up like a dog eating vomit and proclaim it as the greatest thing since internet porn. The rest of us note the gameplay twist is not nearly enough to keep the game from feeling stale on arrival and that the hardware gimmick, as usual, actually hinders the enjoyment of the game. A gargantuan collective "MEHHHH....." is heard around the world.

>>2306006

A lot of people wonder about that, actually. My theory is that Oshus is the Adult Link timeline version of the Windfish.

It's actually kind of creepy to think that both could very well be happening at once, side-by-side....Separated only by the thinnest layer of space-time....:)

>>2304580
it is /v/ you know... that practically would make him an oldfag

>>2300981
>there will never be a sequel to Link's Awakening
because Marin is fucking dead.
and the Legendary Hero of the Essences of Time and Nature (aka THIEF) left the scene.

>>2300981
I got it for Christmas back in the day, gameboy pocket B&W. I got some insence too and jovan musk, so those smells always remind me of that game. The whale looks great in color. How could you go back to the island if the whale dreamed it all anyway? How did Link even get there in the first place I can't remember?

>>2304680
>Implying the 3DS remakes aren't godly
>Implying a Link Between Worlds wasn't amazing

Methinks you are the troll here. I get saying that Wind Waker HD was bullshit, and whatever the hell is going on with the Mario franchise, but Zelda has had more problems with the unique games. TP was meh, SSword sucked, Phantom Hourglass and Spirit tracks were warcrimes, and Hyrule Warriors was a punchline to a joke nobody was telling.

Though I will admit, they shouldn't make a sequel to Link's Awakening. A spiritual successor maybe, but not a sequel. Part of that games beauty was its etherialness.

>>2302739
This. This so much.

>>2302161
>Not having a game where Link's mind is failing, lashing out at him and he's losing his grip on reality, causing him to experience past lives and hallucinate vividly.
>Not having a game that calls back to the play style of previous games, with references and music call backs to the rest of the franchise
>Entire game set during a mental attack from Dark Link as he tries to corrupt and control Link's mind and Link experiences all his past lives to understand how he is the Hero of All Times and emerges triumphant finally waking up only to see his entire experience was just taking out the guard dog for Ganon and still has a final boss fight in reality.
>entire game is link rebuilding his subconcious using every life as a part of his present, acknowledging all who came before him to be the greatest hero yet.
>Ganon subverts time travel to stop Link from ever existing in the first place and has to fight them all, gets sucker punched by pink hair bunny link.
>Seriously lets see some love for the Zelda 2 soundtrack in a new game. 3D Palace stages would be great.
>Anniversary coming up Nintendo....
>Not wanting to play a zelda game that calls back to every other and improves and connects a ton of shit, allowing you to see waifu Marin in 3D and sucker punches you again by letting you return to Koholint and see it one more time before it has to go.

Son are you even trying?

Link's Awakening is my first Zelda and my favourite. To me, Oracle of Ages/Seasons had similar feeling with Link's Awakening, that's why I also love them.

>>2311590

>he doesn't like Spirit Tracks

Do choo-choo trains in Zelda titles offend your autism? I'll admit, up until you pulled that bullshit outta your ass you almost had me convinced you wanted to have a legit conversation.

>>2311754

Sounds like 3edgy5me bullshit.

>>2311754
>Hero of All Times
That is retarded.
And despite the fact that there are a number of games that deal with time travel, there is only one Hero of Time.

>>2312271
>he likes Spirit Tracks
Now you trollin'

>>2311754
Sounds like shit.

>>2311590
>Link Between Worlds
>Amazing
It's boring. No linearity kills this types of games because the puzzle and the challenges are meant to get bigger and bigger as you get more stuff and more powerful. Without this, what you get is a game with a bunch of level 1 dungeons, quick and easy with nothing special going on for it except the new gimmick and the nostalgic fanwank. And I don't give a fuck if you only use it once, getting an item in a dungeon feels fantastic, renting them feels stupid as hell.
People overpraised it because it came after the questionable DS zeldas, it's mediocre at best.

>>2312515

>"TRAAAAAINS?! IN MYYYYY ZELDA!?"
>
>"NOW WAIT JUST A GODDAMN MINUTE NINTENDO....."

Is what I think you meant to say. I bet you hated Wind Waker on launch too. Granted, Spirit Tracks is not as good as Wind Waker, but it's a hell of a lot better than SS or ALBW.

>>2312594
Did I EVER post "IT WAS TEH TRAINS!!!!!" ?

No, no I didn't. I just think the game was terrible.

Also, not hard to be better than SS, and ALBW is great so I don't know what you're smoking.

>>2312650

In what way did you think it was terrible, though? You still haven't fucking told me. Was it just because it wasn't the ALTTP nostalgia-grab your little heart desired?

>>2312682
I just think it was a pretty weak title like Phantom Hourglass was. Almost completely unremarkable, I can barely remember it anymore.

Also, don't put words in my mouth about ALTTP nostalgia. That seems to be your biggest defense; categorizing someone as a type of person who has certain fixed ideas.

>>/v/ you go kid. Shitposting like yours doesn't belong here.

>>2312830

That's because you're not giving me a whole lot to go on; of course I'm gonna make shit up when you pull that.

>>/v/ you go kid. Shitposting like yours doesn't belong here.

Hey asshole, I'd like you to notice something: I'm still here. Even after being banned several times. I don't think I'm going anywhere.

>>2312682
Not the guy but it was railroaded as fuck (which is I guess appropriate for trains). Even by post-Majora standards, which are pretty railroady, it was railroaded.

>>2312903

Thank you. Now we finally have something fucking concrete to deal with.

I agree; it was railroaded. Maybe if Aonuma hadn't come back and found the TP devs fucking their own assholes for entertainment he could've had more time to polish it. As it was he had to bail out that entire dev team and both games suffered (many LTTP veterans were on the team that did ST, by the way).

wait, I had something to say

>>2311590
>>2312830
Phantom Hourglass had some extremely satisfying puzzles (nevermind all the DS gimmicks) and it had phenomenal story-telling direction and cut scenes. Yeah, they managed to make sailing even more tedious than WW, the ocean temple is an obnoxious, repetitive chore, and it's impossible to play for too long without being reminded of how much fun it is to use STYLUS CONTROLS, but there was substantial charm and puzzle design underneath some awful gameplay decisions. They also recognized the tedium of STYLUS CONTROLS and made the wise decision to eliminate virtually all backtracking in dungeons and just give you puzzle after puzzle in rapid fashion, which I actually liked tremendously. If they replaced STYLUS CONTROLS with traditional ones, added more convenient warps, and either eliminated or seriously revised the ocean temple, it would have been a quick, charming sequel to WW. Definitely could have used some satisfying side quests instead of collectathon boat customization, though.

>>2304680
>>2306790
>>2312271
We get it: you're from /v/ and you shit your diaper if anyone disagrees with your shitty opinions. You're going to spend more time banned than unbanned if you stay here, so just save yourself and us the nuisance of your presence and return to your home, you slime.

Best Zelda games.

>>2311031

>aka THIEF

>>2302790
>I do wish Nintendo would make a game that tells what eventually happened to LttP Link
What do you think? he made it back to Hyrule and had many babies with Zelda.

Are the linked versions of the oracle games canon or the non-linked versions?

>>2316760
There's a romhack that brings back traditional d-pad controller, haven't tried it though. There's one for The Whatever Train Adventure too.

</nonretro>

>>2302790
Try getting all 50 Challenge Medals to find out what happened to ALttP Link.

>>2301371
Wait .... shouldn't OoS/OoA be after Link's Awakening? IIRC he starts at the shore of OoS/OoA.

why would you want a sequel? it's a perfectly good game on its own, and making link go back to his kolohint dream world would just be stupid

>>2320178
linked

>>2320803
The opening of both Oracles has Link in Hyrule going to visit the Triforce (which he has access to because it takes place after LttP). The Triforce tells Link there are other kingdoms he needs to save, and it magically teleports him to the kingdom of whichever game you're playing first.

>>2320178
The linked games are canon. Link saves one kingdom, then he and Impa travel together to the other kingdom and save it. After beating both games, it's revealed that the bosses of each game were actually Twinova in disguise, and everything they were doing was a plot to resurrect Ganon. Link beats them and stops the resurrection, then the true ending shows Link headed back to Hyrule on the same ship he's on in the opening of Link's Awakening.