/vr/ - Retro Games

Mine had its sweet spot on its side.

>>2219940
For me that was phase 1. When that stopped working then upside down it went.

Wait, why did you do this? Is it a technical problem? The only malfunction I ever had with my original playstation was the controller/memory card would sometimes stop responding and when I pushed down on the case it would start working again. I never thought to turn the whole console upside down, because I just took the case apart and taped the wiring harnesses in place.

>>2219967
it would sometimes get misaligned lasers to work i think, i never had the problem though

>>2219967

In early models the power supply was right next to the plastic laser assembly. Heat from the power supply would make the laser assembly warp and malfunction. Turing it upside-down let heat dissipate better due to the vents on the bottom that you see in that picture. Later models had the laser assembly on the other side of the drive to keep them away from the power supply.

>>2219971
>>2219979
Oh, interesting. I never had that problem, mine must be an older model. Reminds me of all the different tricks one must do to get an NES to work properly

>>2219993
and by older I mean later :/

>>2219937
I propped mine up at a 60 degree angle with a flip flop.

>>2219979
Wow, I never knew. All I knew was turning the thing over would make it work. Sadly it didn't work real well with games that had multiple disks.

>>2219937
No, i just always gave her some slaps on the right side, then worked again.

Nope and I hope I'll never have to.

>>2219937
Only recently. Dug up my 7050 model and was upset by the laser giving out. Googled some fixes and this one came up so I tried it and it worked.

A good friend of mine had the first model PSX, and after a few months of play he had to do this to get the FMV's to play without skipping.

Had to send it in to replace my laser after the image literally wouldn't stop bouncing.

Back then they even sent you the old busted laser.

No I didn't. I've never even owned a PSX.

>>2220084
I think very few people actually own a PSX.

Nope. I opened the lid, stacked cylinder Legos into the lid switch and pulled the CD lid down on that, using tape.

A video series of every Japanese PS title shown in chronological order. It's still a work-in-progress, covering only 1,050 thus far. You need a Niconico account to view them.
http://www.nicovideo.jp/mylist/26350757

I kept my PS1's on an open hard surface and I still went through a few of them. Eventually I got tired of dealing with warranties so I did this trick and it worked well enough. I believe the PS1 is up there with the Xbox 360 for garbage build quality.

>>2220092
i had and still have a saturn

>>2220094

Ooh, very neat.

I'm currently playing a psx game called ファンタステップ as per recommendation by one of those infopics recommending beginner's Japanese games.

>>2220146
I'm just surprised at how many mahjong and horse racing games were released on the early years of the PlayStation. The Super Famicom had plenty of that shit too.

>>2220159

It's fun speculating on the culture.. I wonder if the glut of mahjong titles is kind of similar to how we feel about the professional sports titles here in the west, in the sense of "derivative normie games".

>>2219937
Never, and I have half a dozen fats. I'm beginning to think it's a myth made up by the same trolls who thought it would be funny to convince people to burn discs at the slowest speed.

64 master race!

>>2220163
I have one and have to do this to get games to work.

God, I wish I could understand game hacking.

I would love to translate some of those horror sound novels.

Why the fuck is 4chan asking me to identify soups to post?

>>2220094
The uneven button sized ones remind me of the 4chan logo.

>>2220172
i got cupcakes

I still have my PS1 and I've never had to tilt my machine or set it upside down, or anything crazy.

Works like new.

>>2219979

Actually, I got this partially wrong. Here's a Wikipedia quote that explains it better.

>The first batch of PlayStations used a KSM-440AAM laser unit whose case and all movable parts were completely made out of plastic. Over time, friction causes the plastic lens sled rail to wear out—usually unevenly. The placement of the laser unit close to the power supply accelerated wear because of the additional heat, which makes the plastic even more vulnerable to friction. Eventually, one side of the lens sled can become so worn that the laser can tilt, no longer pointing directly at the CD. This would cause data read errors and games would no longer load. One common fix is to turn the PlayStation upside down, making the lens sled rest on the unworn top rails. Sony eventually fixed the problem by making the sled out of die-cast metal and placing the laser unit slightly farther away from the power supply on later models of the PlayStation.

>>2220260
I thought mine was okay until I started getting the orange square of death. Tried to fix the laser (without tools) and it sort of loads games now, but music and FMVs skip. It's not even an early model. :(

I never did this and don't understand why you would

>>2220315

See:

>>2220286

If you had a newer model then you didn't need to.

>>2220315
Well, since you can't read what

>>2220286

said, here's the tl;dr version.

early PS1's faulty laser gets loose over time, people w/ brains (what?) resort to using gravity to get around the problem

>>2219937
not upside down, but i put my ps1 and snes on their sides.

if you look into the disc drive of the ps1, there's a sort of orange band. not sure what its function is, but as a kid i thought it was an actual rubber band that got stuck in the system and i tried pulling it out

I never did this. I always had more trouble with spindles popping off than lasers wearing out.

>>2220395
Did your snes carts play better when it was on its side?

>>2220092
Don't start that shit.

>>2220414

That was my problem, too. I only went through one psx as a kid. My game time was portioned out between a lot of systems so I don't think I played any one of them enough to cause many malfunctions.

>>2219937
For the last 4 or 5 years mine's been on its side.

>>2220536
Maybe he just liked how it looked.

I need some help guys, I bought a malfunctioning Psone (disc doesn't spin probably because the "closed tray" button doesn't register or something, I want to slap it onto a 900x PS1 because that one doesn't also read CDs because the plastic holding those metal spheres wore off and two of them broke free, and aren't really adjustable anymore (one even fell inside the lens workspace, whoops).

Since I'm a total mess with electronics, and I don't have too much experience on how to handle ribbon cables and the like, can someone point or explain step by step what do I have to buy/do in order to get the new disc unit inside the old PS1? I don't even know how to take the damned cables off and I'm scared I will only damage both.

>>2220869
I would just buy another PSone, I have two. I bought the second one because it was cheaper than buying a controller by itself when I needed one. You can probably find one for 20-25$ USD.

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm15151371
>Watching that video catalog of all the NTSC-J PS games.
>Suddenly get to Masters Fighter
>All dem obvious traceovers of Neo-Geo fighters.
My sides.

>>2220896
That game is an arcade port, the arcade is extremely rare and hasn't been dumped yet. Would've been funnier if the game was console-exclusive though.

They same company (korean afaik) made another fighting game before that one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydFT01e3--E#t=108

>>2220092
Yeah it only sold 100 million units...

>>2220896
off-topic post is off-topic

>>2220925
I'm just surprised it even made it pass Sony's quality assurance procedure.

>>2220891
Is this a "do not even bother, the fact you asked means it's way beyond your hand" post?

>>2219937
Yes, but for some reason, only games made after 1998 needed it. On my ps1, anyway.

>>2220869
Can't be done, most likely. The lasers have different designs even in different versions of the grey Psx.

>>2220536
>>2220867
well it actually wasn't to fix the cart reading.

my issue was, the cables in the back were really sensitive and the slightest shaking would shut the system off.

i'd lean it up against the wall so the front of the system was in the air and the back was sitting on the ground. it was the only way to get it to stay on sometimes

Started collecting ps1 games because I'm sick of buying them over and over.
>best boot up
Snagged Castlevania Symphony of the Night yesterday for $20 at my local vidya shop.

What is the serial I/O port in the back next to video? And that giant port on the back do?

>>2221424
>What is the serial I/O port in the back next to video?
Link cable.

>And that giant port on the back do?
Gameshark.

>>2221426
what!? The thing was made with the intention of cheating? Did they have some deal with Gameshark or did Sony produce it?

>>2221378
Isn't laser part of the whole unit? If I'm detaching it from the PSone and connecting into a PS1 they're supposedly compatible, right?

>>2221442
>The thing was made with the intention of cheating?
No. That's the only use it got, though.

>>2221442
It's a parallel port, acts like an extension port but far slower than the N64's. It was mostly used by developers, and allegedly by some obscure internet browser licensed by Sony and never released to the public.

>>2221442
It's a parallel port, acts like an expansion port but far slower than the N64's. It was mostly used by developers, and allegedly by some obscure internet browser licensed by Sony and never released to the public.

>>2221472
There were a couple of interesting devices for the paralel port such as an MP3 Player addon, a Video CD addon and even a Super Game Boy like thingy.

>>2220869
You could easily fix the psone by just taping down the lid sensor.

>>2219979
and my cousin thought i was retarded for puting my ps1 on this thing that was made for venting heat from notebooks.

>>2220094
Just in case anyone is interested, someone made a similar Nico series for PS2. It's also a work-in-progress. I'm surprised for all the flack the PS2 had from Dreamcast fanboys for being a glorified DVD player, it had quite a varied lineup of niche games in its first few years.
>inb4 the not retro cutoff point.
http://www.nicovideo.jp/mylist/38398176

>>2220094
>Tune in
>first game is RIDGE RACER
>instead of some boring game no one remembers

I already knew it was the first PS1 game, but I still smile, every time!

I did this with my launch model PSX to get it to play burned discs. Some combination of turning it upside-down and using an Action Replay worked every time.

>>2220094
>that PS1 controller which looks the same as the standard controller save for the different button labelling

How can my mind feel so fucked by this

What are some websites/blogs that have lots of obscure PS1 games reviews?

>>2222724
http://www.hardcoregaming101.net/system.htm#psx
https://archive.moe/vr/thread/2082152/

>>2222728
not the guy you answered to but this was EXACTLY what i was looking for

Thanks

>>2222689
Maybe they intended to have different button labels for the overseas controllers. It never made sense how X is confirm and O is cancel in most US games.

>>2222760
Actually, back in the day, triangle was cancel in most US games.

I remember when I was a little shit I stole one of these from Toys R Us. Never expected it to be the greatest controller I've ever held. Super light, super soft, Long heavy duty cable, and a great Dpad.

What are some great PS1 RPGs that aren't FF7?

>>2223009
Wild Arms, Suikoden, Persona, Azure Dreams, and Legaia all come to mind.

>>2223024
>Persona
FMVs freak me the fuck out but I'll definitely try it, thanks.

>>2223009
Star Ocean 2
Persona 2 Innocent Sin and Eternal Punishment (play IS first)
Suikoden I and II

>>2223024
>>2223028
Might as well add the Tales of Destiny games too.

>>2223028
Let me rephrase that.

What are some GOOD PS1 RPGs that aren't FF7?

>>2223041
Hey, you aren't me

>>2221460
That's the thing, the unit itself has completely different psysical designs. I wanted to take newer laser (the one with metal parts) from a busted psx and put in my old one (because the first models had an extra port that can be used for gameshark style devices), but the shape of the unit was different and couldn't be mounted.

>>2223041
FF7 isn't that good to begin with.

>>2223041
Breath of Fire III and IV
Xenogears
Wild Arms
Valkyrie Profile
Star Ocean
Chrono Cross
The Legend of Dragoon

>>2219937
>The first batch of PlayStations used a KSM-440AAM laser unit whose case and all movable parts were completely made out of plastic. Over time, friction caused the plastic tray to wear out—usually unevenly. The placement of the laser unit close to the power supply accelerated wear because of the additional heat, which made the plastic even more vulnerable to friction. Eventually, the tray would become so worn that the laser no longer pointed directly at the CD and games would no longer load. Sony eventually fixed the problem by making the tray out of die-cast metal and placing the laser unit farther away from the power supply on later models of the PlayStation.

Some units, particularly the early 100x models, would be unable to play FMV or music correctly, resulting in skipping or freezing. In more extreme cases the PlayStation would only work correctly when turned onto its side or upside down.

There's our answer

>>2223098
Yeah but that trick worked even for PSOnes.

>>2223094
BoF3 is terrible man.
Its like a 10 hour intro that has nothing to do with anything followed by another 10 hours of shit that you don't really care about.

>legend of dragoon
>slow.jpeg

>Chrono Cross
Not even touching this one.

>Xenogears
>slow.jpeg

>>2223129
>Chrono Cross
>Not even touching this one.

Faggot

>>2223009
Saga Frontier

>>2219967
Kids used to put their Playstations on the carpet. Not realizing it generates a lot more heat than SNES/Genesis did.

>>2219937
>Admit it, you did this too

didn't work for me. i had to open the lid and then slam it back down.

>>2220037
>Dug up my 7050 model and was upset by the laser giving out

/vr/ in a nutshell
>oh my GOD, my almost 20 year old child's gaming device made of plastic no longer works! I am upset!

>>2220159
>horse racing games

japanese LOVE that shit. or at least they used to.

>>2219937
I didn't. In fact, I've never had my console on the floor.

>>2223094
>Valkyrie Profile

one of my favorite games ever, just my 2 cents to that anon who asked this anon.

>>2221504
Holy fuck I would have killed for this back in the day. Any chance something like this still exists?

>>2228148
Then the police would have been investigating a murder suicide back in the day. Because once you actually tried it would have killed yourself. You have no idea what a colossal piece of shit this thing is.

Yes. These things still exist. Just like some scientists keep samples of the most vile diseases locked away for research purposes so do some collectors keep samples of the most vile abominations in video game history locked away for research purposes. The main purpose being to research which was more shit, the PS1 or N64 version of this historic fail.

>>2219937
best console of all time in my opinion

>>2226361
They still do. Just go to any game center (arcade in japanese english) and you will find elaborate horse racing games with on ebig screen and many smaller terminals, usually on the same floor as the pachinko and the slot games.

>>2228350
underrated post

>>2222724
lunaticobscurity dot blog spot dot com has a bunch of obscure ps1 games covered, including a few yaroze games

>>2228148
There's plenty on ebay.

>>2223094
Looks like a good list. Gotta try those.

>>2228476
i disagree only because the fact that playing 3d games on a dpad is painful

yeah the joystick was plastered on later but hardly any games supported it correctly. i have enjoyed a good bit of playstation games though. it just wasn't a good console.

>>2220869
I know this was posted a week ago.

However if anyone is interested I moved a disc drive from my PsOne to my SCPH-1001 Playstation. That move is very easy and the drive works fine as far as i can tell. I can post pictures and explain how to do this if anyone is still interested.

No, I actually take care of my shit!

>>2219937
bought an SCPH-1001 a year or so ago, came in competently hideous (covered in stickers), but it was still working. Ripped that fucker apart, cleaned up the case, lubed up the disc drive with red lithium grease, and threw it all together. Imagine to my surprise when it came with a modchip already installed (a modern 4 wire chip). Not a bad deal for 10 bucks.

>>2220826
If only they knew the flamewars their branding decision would cause...

>>2220869
>Since I'm a total mess with electronics, and I don't have too much experience on how to handle ribbon cables and the like . . . I bought a malfunctioning Psone

If you rearrange your post a bit, it doesn't make any goddamn sense.

>>2233026
I don't know why don't just call the original PlayStation "PS"? That's the proper initials anyway. It's on the friggin' logo.

>>2233026
Can I buy that somewhere or was that a TGS only prototype?

>>2233046
It was only released in Japan.

>>2233041
because muh nostalgia, wrong nostalgia.

>>2233041
>>2233068
Habits last. Don't get your undies into a knot over it.

>>2233065
Cool, I'll try to hunt one down whenever I get there.

>>2233074
Even before the real PSX was made, it still felt wrong to call it that.

>>2233075
last time i checked it was at least 1K$
so good luck

>>2233026
It's bulky, but I like it a lot.

I did that with my DC after the music in Crazy Taxi started skipping.

and later with my PS2 for similar reasons

>>2219937
I would just stick a couple CD cases under each corner and that was usually all I needed.

>>2233041
>>2233079
I can't believe some butthurt janitor deleted my posts. It wasn't even meant to be inflammatory.

>>2219937
Damn right I did. PS1 was a POS and I killed FIVE of those turds. Flipping that piece of shit only did so much. Most unreliable console ever.

Is that one japanese Initial D game good? I really wanna drive an AE86.

>>2228148
you can buy one on ebay
there is NO SOUND

Yes.

Why the fuck did it work

>>2219937
I don't know what is being done here, so no

>>2228148
It suck balls the compatibility is terrible!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxF2e6DUMRo

>>2234294
>there is NO SOUND
That's a good thing. The N64 version has sound. Not game sound mind you. A horrible ear grating loop of shit tune so loud it distorts and would overheat the amps and cause your setup to burst into flames if you let it run for more than 15 minutes,
Fortunately no human has been able to stand the pain of listening to it for more than a few minutes so there have been no fires.

>>2219937
I did that until it broke... and then I did this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WahaYAygMr0

>>2234289
Your best bet for that is the PS2 Initial D game.

My biggest problem with the PS1 was that the disc spindles always seemed to wear out really fast and would come off. Lasers never gave me trouble, so I never did this flipperoo crap.

My first experience with piracy.

Got this shit for ~20 bucks in 1997.

>>2237513
I still don't know what is this port for.

>>2237517
Why u bought it then?

>>2237408
lol

>>2237526
I used it to play pirated games obviously, but I have no clue what's the deal with the port on the back of the cartridge.

>>2237543
i also played pirated games,,,, but i had someone put some sort of chip in my console that could read burnt CDRs

anyways, i also wonder what that port is for....

>>2237543
you can hook the cart up to your computers serial port and put cheats on that way, some action replays for saturn had them too

>>2237574
parallel port sorry

I'll just post this here with a big shiny image to attract the eye of responders:

I'm thinking about getting a PSOne. Is there any actual reason to do so rather than just playing on a PS2, I.e. compatibility issues, image quality, piracy, or is it purely sentimental?

I'd like to eventually get the little screen for it too, but that's just cause I think it's rad.

>>2239226
Some PS games actually do run better on PS/PSone consoles than they do on PS2. Suikoden II comes to mind. Playing it on the PS2 will cause the music to skip during the tactical portions.

>>2239226
Even if you have a way of playing PS1 games on your PS2 that doesn't suck ass it can still be worth having a PSOne. I have flip top screens on mine and use them like portables. I suppose I could get better picture quality on a tiny PSP screen or a shitting tablet emulator but for the size and quality it's fine.
They have no sentimental value to me because I never had one until a couple years ago but it is a very nice looking system.

Hey guys can i join?

What's the best controller to use while emulating? I never got a chance to play many ps1 games, and want to try a few tomorrow, wondering if a newer PS3 controller is the way to go.

Also, must plays? Definitely starting with Castlevania SOTN, then Resident Evil.

>>2240691
Ps2 controller with Ps2 -> USB adapter. literally nothing better
>fuck ps3 controllers
>except the dev ones
>those are niiiiice

>>2240718
>>2240691
>recommending PS3 controller
>not recommending superior PS4 controller which is easier to get working and more comfortable, as well as having additional usefulness like the touchpad.

>>2240691
My favorite are the PSone controllers, personally I think there the most sturdy.

>>2219937
No. .... I used to stick a fork into the ps1, which would press down on the closed lid checker and keep the lid popped up like a car hood. Then, when games would stop working, I'd spin the disc myself manually and it'd start working again eventually.

>>2233075>>2233724
Ummm yeah.. theyre all over ebay for like 3-400

I have to say it whenever there's a ps thread.
My fucking PS.
MY fucking other PS.
Every time i try to play chrono chross resets after 10 minutes.
It works with other games...for hours.

I tried cleaning the cd, authentic btw. I tried burning other cds.
Still, resets every 10-12 minutes.
WHO WAS PHONE vr????

>>2240729
never did i recommend a retail ps3 controller. a dev ps3 controller isnt fucked to death on l/r2 buttons and is instead more like a ps2 controller. unfortunately theyre not easy to obtain but my fucking god are they what should have been shipped with ps3s
>ps4 controller is shit
>end of story

>>2240798
most are not in working order

>>2240814
the telemarketer

>>2240341
Is that Net Yaroze on the left?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJ92RVruaxs Has this ever happened to you? this was 2spooky4me

>>2223009
either Legend of Dragoon, or Chrono Cross

>>2240341
I had no idea they made them in green!! looks very cool

>>2237408
LOL'd

>>2240341
Just out of curiosity, are those playstations from different regions so you can play out of country games without doing the disc switch thing and possibly jacking up the hardware (or so I've heard)?

>>2219957
This.

Mine only worked on its side, then upside down and finally propped up diagonally.

It died shortly after the diagonal phase 3

>>2241124
I'm pretty sure this happened to me once, the one time I decided to sneak around the house to play video games in the middle of the night. Unlucky. My copy of Lego Racers was scratched or something and it scared the hell out of me. I think that this was supposed to happen if you played a pirated game, but it just played that way if the disc was dirty at all.

I remember the feeling of "it's okay, just play lego racers until you forget about it, then you can go to sleep..."

I ended up getting caught playing it too because my father had a midnight snack and heard some noise from the game. Balls.

>>2241124
HOLY SHIT DUDE

>>2240938
yes
>>2241194
not for retail. its a debug unit and shouldnt leave dev hands... but they do.
>>2241267
left to right
>DTL-H3000 - NTSC-J - region free but you would need to chip it to play burned games. im also missing a ton of hardware with it but regardless
>DTL-H1200 - NTSC-J - debugger that only plays japanese region coded games but allows cd-r reading by nature because its purpose was exactly that: to play builds on burned discs to find issues so you didnt have to make that fucking pressed disc to test games (i have a tool to change the region of an iso so i just change anything to japanese region, burn, and play)
>SCPH-9001 - NTSC-U - a retail ps1 with only AVout and serial i/o port unmodded

>>2243703
All hail the ultimate PS1 geek

>bows

>>2243728
Ps1 dev hardware and retail hardware isnt very difficult to get a good understanding of.
>region code
>last digit on model number is for the region (SCPH-100X for example)
>0 = Japan
>1 = US/Canada (basically any non PAL region)
>2 = Any PAL region
>3 = Asia (less common but still around)

>Model number prefix
>SCPH = retail
>DTL = dev

Its once you realize how many variations there are as well as how many special models there are that you see why this is important.

BUT THE MOMENT YOU LEAVE PS1 AND GO TO PS2 YOU MAY AS WELL KILL YOURSELF BECAUSE THERES AN UNNEEDEDLY LARGE AMOUNT OF PS2 UNITS AND VARIATIONS FOR WHAT APPEARS TO BE NO REASON TRIVIAL OR COMPLEX
>pic related
>look at this bullshit
>anything in red is unconfirmed

>>2243785
>these are some other possible consoles but there is no evidence to say that they exist

Jesus christ, PS2.

By the way, you're fucking awesome for explaining this stuff, everything makes sense now! ..kind of, ps2 is still making me omnicidal just looking at that bullshit ass chart

>>2243703
>>2243785
Okay, okay. So can you help me out? You've intrigued me now. What does each number in the thousands place mean? as in like X000, X001,X002, etc. I've read somewhere that 9000 models and upwards cannot utilize additional hardware or something along those lines but idk if it's true.

also, can I ask what NTSC means without looking stupid?

just to be sure if I've got this down, a DTL - H1003 model would be a developer's PS1 from Asia (possibly only playing games that are Asian region encoded)?

I sound like a child in class but god damn it this is interesting dude

>>2243889
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_models

>>2233075
Don't.

Any you find that are affordable likely have heat damage and won't run without excessive work.

>>2243785
Good post, anon.

>>2243785
I didn't know there four regions of PS games. I always had the impression Asia only got NTSC-J games with English and Chinese instructions.

>>2243889
the thousands place is the series
lower numbers are earlier models. as they went forward in time ports were removed (parallel i/o to name a big one to fight piracy see >>2237513 >>2237517 for an example).
1000 series had parallel i/o, serial i/o, AV out, composite out, dc out (was a small little thing) and svideo. this is the point you wanna start. as you progress you had the 5000, 7000, and 9000 series, each series having some other port removed.
there are also variants where you have 5500 or 7702 (im not checking this one but 5500 is real) where maybe they had a bundle or some shit. then the slim model is a SCPH-110X (funny enough a DTL-H110X is a fat model with the little power adapter like the slim model. its rather amusing)
see >>2243907 for an overview in a condensed manner

NTSC - the television broadcasting system used in North America and Japan.
PAL - the euro variation of the above

a DTL-H1003 doesnt exist. the reason is that the XXX3 models are basically NTSC-U XXX1 but modified to play certain regions. i forget the specifics because of the weirdness but yeah, while it makes sense to have a DTL-H1003, one doesnt exist.

>>2243932
thanks m8. i have more info too
>>2243953
theres 4 but its still technically 3 for some strange reason.

>>2243846
okay, i need to make 2 posts for this total (this being the first) because 2k character cap.

so first off, ps2 and ps1 have special units. the ones listed are actual ps2-looking ones. there are PS2-TOOLs that are the dev system (or prototype i guess (same with the ps3, goddamn theyre sexy and large)) which dont look like the console you would see normally. the ps1 had boards you put in your windows 3.x/98 computer so thats really the difference between special parts.
the ps2 shit has all these variants for some reason (revisions on internal hardware, software, casing etc) but the one thing that stands out here is that they dont have the ability to play DVDs. Only CDs continuing post in a sec. at 2k mark.

>>2244063
the ps2 units were made to never play burned dvds. end of story. so the devs had to do things like certain builds on CDs and stuff or load it thru the HDD which does very well.
though its hard to say what the actual difference is for the ps2 units are aside from motherboard and bios revision etc, the only notable differences are the region lockouts. some will be free some will be region specific. its really bothersome.

in fact, theres a unit on ebay right now if anyone wanted to take a look (seach "debug playstation" and set it to worldwide)

regardless, shit was fucking retarded on the PS2 and its like theres no end to the bullshit on em. theyre very nice though...

and then you have dev psps which have a psp, with some big fuckin cables and a tower that runs all the shit a psp does. the psp on this portion is a controller with display. almost nothing more.
ps3s are pretty alright too... not my cup of tea on knowledge but theyre still special. in fact, heres the shit you can alter when using a debug ps3 settings on the XMB https://jerem73.wordpress.com/2010/10/18/%E2%98%85-debug-settings/
the console debuggers/test units are like the ps3s you know, but you have the ps3 TOOL which is like... likely bigger than a normal computer tower.
regardless shit isnt my thing so i know less about that and the psp.

im not into modding but i still wish to obtain more dev stuff. Personally i want a debug ps3 only because shit would make my time on TCRF.net so much more easy, but im broke so im fucked. though if you manage to have one you can basically use it to play ps1, ps2 and to an extent ps3 games with no issue. burned or not, hdd or not.

any questions?
>i dont into most other hardwares
>still cool regardless

>>2244094
my PS2 was hacked and could read burnt DVDs no problem

>>2244328
yes, but the debug/dev units will not read DVD PERIOD. no dvd compatibility other than DVD video if youre lucky.

please dont be a dumbshit.
>hacked
>not understanding modding
>not understanding this level of shit

>>2244435
consider migrating to /g/, the average level of intelligence here has declined a LOT lately

>>2244450
i already do, but vidya isnt a thing of interest there.

so how do i play burned games on it? I know disk swapping but every time I do the disk swap it starts to work then the game freezes

>>2244453
for ps1 - get a real ps1 game. when swapping you do one swap for when it speeds up, one swap when its starting to slow down, and then right when the screen goes black you swap once more.
you can do the same with the ps2 slim if "modded" but only for ps1 titles. for the ps2 swap to work for ps2 games youd need swapmagic. or free mcboot which is an annoying but very fruitful process in the end

>>2244063
>>2244094
>>2244435

Who are you people and how did you come by this kind of info?

You guys were in emugen yesterday as well

>>2219937
I never did this.

>>2219937
My PS1 is still in my cabinet as it never stopped working.

>I'm not so secretly praying it works the next time I get the hankering for some Final Fantasy Tactics

>>2244492
thats me and only me. assemblergames.com nigga

I have an AverMedia C027 and I'm trying to play PS1 games from my PS2 using Popstarter.

Using s-video, my C027 will only detect the 240p 5% of the time. I've gotten luck several times enough to record some Twitch footage but this RNG tier shit is driving me NUTS. Why the fuck do only expensive gear do 240p properly?

>>2222262

pretty sure battle arena toshinden was the first ps1 game.

>>2244993
Are you fucking serious

>>2244995
>http://www.nicovideo.jp/mylist/26350757

oh wait nvm that was the first ps1 launch title in the us.

>>2244993
actually it was the second game,
hence: sces 00002

>>2244993
Yup. One of the big boxed PS1 games.

Normal black disced games worked without a problem. But for pirated copies I had to turn it on it's side.

Before I discovered flipping on it's side, I found out I had to heat it more not to get stuck on loading screens. I put on a blanket on it. I knew it was stupid, but I was desperate to play some Final Fantasy Tactics, which Square refused to release in EU.

Who else here has played this game?

>>2248670
Damn. Right in my childhood. I recall there was a PC version...?

>>2240691
I never could get the psx emulator to work properly, is there a how to guide for dummies on how to set it up? And I mean really for dummies

>>2249092
>epsxe
>play til end of disc one
>press "esc"
>file > change disc
>iso number 2
>run > resume/continue
hopefully this works. it should but if it doesnt then ask google

>>2219937

My first one from 1996 fell off the top of the TV, so we got it replaced with a better model that didn't have the plastic lens track thing.

>>2249639
Something similar happened to mine. I used to sit way too far away from the console because idiot kid, managed to yank it onto the floor twice with my pad. Ended up wrecking the CD-ROM drive which obviously made it harder to play most games. Never did get it replaced though.

>>2219937
What?
I never did that.
Why would I do that?

>>2249639
I was so mad about that. I got my PlayStation later than all of my friends in the beginning of 2000, and mine was the only one without the serial port. Everybody else was able to play imports and burnt games but me. Had to buy a cheap replacement model at Funcoland to do it.

>>2249653
>>2249650

upside down ps1 was legit. the laser housing was not very stable and the tracking would fuck up. but you could fix it by turning your ps1 or fucking with the laser angle. some people packed some card in the tray, some people opened up the console and adjusted a screw.

>>2248782
>>2248670
It's got some excellent spritework and backgrounds. The 3D cutscenes were ambitious for the time, but I think the actual gameplay itself gives off far, far better atmosphere. The environments really feel hostile but also desolate. Complete fantasy settings without music, just ambiance can be great.
Way more memorable than the more silly cutscenes or characters.

Better to stick with PS1 version, PC version is limited to 256 colors and is a pain in the ass to get working anyways.

>>2219937
Is this the PSX or the PSOne?

Because I think the PSOne should have fixed this, right?

>>2250013

isnt the psx some obscure dvd player?

>>2250056
PSX is the name used for the old PS1.

>>2250056
He's obviously referring to the grey model.

>>2250082
no. because the psx is a ps2 DVR hybrid. where psx became used for the ps1 is beyond me.

but youre wrong. dont feel the people lies

>>2250692
>where psx became used for the ps1 is beyond me.

That's probably because you are too young.

Pick up any gaming mag from 94-95-96, they will be abbreviating the playstation as PSX. Anyone who read those at the time called it PSX. It was also a development codename of sorts (or was it marketing term, I forgot which), for Playstation eXperience. It also appeared as PS-X as well.

>>2250696
in all honesty "playstation" should just be used then.

like with your logic thats what it should be.
youre also talking to the fag that posted these
>>2240341
>>2243703
>>2243785
>>2244063
>>2244094
>>2244435

ps1 is my shit, but calling it psx was weird. and while im at it, im 18 so you got me on the young part. still think its dumb because the psx exists (even if it wasnt a success).

>>2250727
arguing about this is retarded either side you defend

>>2250753
correct

Not the same thing but this reminds me i got a fat ps2 one christmas that would only play ps1 games or ps2 games with a blue bottom.

>>2250013
PSX

>>2251346
I had a friend that had a fat ps2 that wouldn't play blue bottom ps2 games. I wonder how many blue bottom ps2(and ps1 for that matter) games were made?

>>2253957
Tell me about it my Ps2 slime has the same problem. Finally got a copy of R.A.D. and it won't even read it... ugh

>Work in a charity shop
>Someone donates a PS2 and a bunch of PS1 games
>One is Stuart Little 2
>Open it to check the disc
>The disc inside isn't Stuart Little 2
>It's The Misadventures of Tron Bonne


>Snapped in half

>>2256072
If this is true then let me just say that holy fuck that must've sucked yo

>>2256221
The worst part is that the label is still somehow holding the disc together, so it looks fine until you flip it over.

>>2256243
Wow, that's some shit luck, Anon-kun.

>>2256248
I tried playing it in my PS2. For a horrible moment I thought it was actually loading then the audio CD player screen appeared instead

>>2219937
Of course I did. Anyone who owned one of those things and played it a fair amount eventually had to, PS1 was built like a piece of garbage. I had three die on me before the generation was over.

I have the opportunity to get the 4 disc edition of Lunar: Silver Star Story complete in a jewel case, no box, for 30 bucks. Should I go for it? There are a few scratches on the discs and the case is cracked apparently but otherwise it works well.

This is probably a stupid question but I'm a stupid person so I might as well ask.

>>2256810
anybody?

>>2256810
That's probably a bit cheaper than average. Cases can be replaced.

>>2223129

gr8 b8 m8.

>>2256810
Go for it. Not a bad price for that game. And it's like that other replier said, cases can be replaced.

>>2237517
Parallel port so you could hook it up to your computer.

>Shadow Tower is suddenly expensive

I got a new copy of this for $18 from an Amazon seller last year, what happened?

>>2258997
Dark Souls fans

>>2258997
How is that game?

>>2260915
It's like the King's Field games, but has some different gameplay elements. Chance's are if you don't like King's Field, you won't like Shadow Tower, and vice versa.

>>2262117
Reminds me more of Elder Scrolls

>>2262117
Missed out on King's Field. I had so many chances to play it but I don't remember what happened to it. Man, it looks fun though. Worth buying a copy?

SO HERE I AM

>>2265465
That song was in THPS2? I thought it was only in THPS1.

>>2265471
It's the Tony Hawk anthem

>>2265465
Some songs really do stick in your mind don't they

Where does one buy a pre-programmed modchip these days? I just got a 9001, so PSIO is out of the question.

>>2267163
ebay?

>>2269630
hahahhaha no

you can get your account canned for selling modded consoles, you certainly cannot sell the actual preprogrammed chips.

also, PSIO is never going to happen.

>>2269636
I wonder why they decided to use the parallel port instead of the serial port for that project. Then again, I don't know shit about programming.

>>2267163
eurasia

>>2263520
Doesn't it take influence from Ultima Underworld, which influenced both TES and King's Field?

>>2219937
Mine's on its side right now.

Is it normal for burned disks to be missing audio? I swear that the copy of The Game of Life that I burned has no voice acting on it.

>>2265474
So it's in every game? Or you're just saying it the way that YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH is synonymous with Crazy Taxi?

>>2270020
I think it depends on how a game is ripped. If someone didn't do it properly, you get results like that. Missing audio and such. Sorry I don't have more details.

>>2267163
vrmodfag on here probably has a bunch, you'll find his email in the b/s/t thread, or search on an archive.

i got a modded psx from him six months ago or so, good deal.

>>2270020
I've fought with issues like that for the past couple of days, and had different results depending on the brand of CD-R's I'm using and the way I'm burning them. So far the best results have been with a certain type of Verbatim discs, but even then I have to burn them at a friend's place, since my drive doesn't seem to be up to the task. Sure, it finishes and my PC can read the discs just fine, but I get a ton of miscompares when using ImgBurn's Verify function and the games are nearly unplayable on the PS1 itself. Audio and FMVs skip all the time and games may just freeze on loading screens.

Some say that this could be fixed by adjusting the laser of the PS1, but I don't have the courage to tinker with it after hearing some people rendering their consoles unable to read anything after trying. Doesn't seem worth it since I can play burned games just fine as long as I make sure to use the right kind of discs and burn them on something that isn't my PC's current disc drive.

>>2271813
How much did he charge? I already have the console so it would be a shame to buy another...

I had a 1000series PS from 1994 up to 2004 or so. Never had a problem. Not a one.

>>2271883
Typo: 1995, not 1994. Derpy derp derp.

My PS1 lasted for more than ten years and I never had to do that, but it was one of the later models.

My fat PS2, on the other hand, refused to play a lot of games maybe a year after I bought it unless I set it on its side.

>>2271823
I got the same skipping until I turned my system on its side. Guess my laser is misaligned.

>>2271913
maybe that's why they designed the PS2 to stand up on its side

>>2271913
Didn't know the PS2 had a similar problem

Just dug out my old PS1. I was surprised to find it was chipped. Never even knew that. However, I don't have a memory card.

Now. There are a fuck load of cheap ones on stuff like Ali Express. Anyone have experience with those cheap knock of ones? I expect the quality to be shit but are they at least usable or what?

Anyone have Falcata? I can barely find any impressions of the game, a surprise as I'd think at least one Gust fan owns and has played it a bit.

I have two ps1s and three ps2s. I've taken apart and cleaned them all and I never had a problem with any of them. Nothing beats ps1

>>2274708
I think you're in the wrong thread, Rumata-san.

>>2274384
How did you not know it was modded/how did you all of a sudden find out?

>>2274708
Emuparadise has it.

Any command and conquer fans?

>>2275216
>How did you not know it was modded/how did you all of a sudden find out?

I was gonna try out the swap trick with a CD I burned, just for kicks.Tried it. It worked. Then the game froze for some reason. So without thinking I hit the reset button and the game booted up. It's been working fine ever since.
I bought it used ages ago so I guess the previous owner chipped it. Just never knew about it.

Also. For reference. These are the types of cheap memory cards I'm talking about.

>>2275596
>I bought it used ages ago so I guess the previous owner chipped it. Just never knew about it.

Sounds like you struck gold

>>2219937
I used foam blocks from package

>>2276331
Really? Isn't it pretty easy to chip a PS1? I had a chipped one growing up as well.

Not that I'm not happy.

>>2276496
>Isn't it pretty easy to chip a PS1?

Not really. Not if it has to do with soldering. I'd say doing a softmod is easier.

>>2275216
>>2275221
Nah, I'm not asking for the game itself, but I never hear any talk of it on this board or elsewhere. At least it has good music: http://polsy.org.uk/play/nico/?vidid=sm495993

>>2270039
It's really not though. But you know what is THPS2's anthem?
LIGHTS OUT

vidya.....

>>2276496
>Isn't it pretty easy to chip a PS1?
incredibly easy, 6-8 wires

>>2278581
your hands must shake like a dog shitting razor blades if you can't solder something that simple.

>>2271879
just find his email in the b/s/t thread, or search the older b/s/t threads if he's not in the current one

>>2219937
Yep. I had a first gen PSX that required me to do that for it to read many games and it would overheat(I think) and stop working on games it would read right side up.

>>2248670
I still have it. A super fun game

>>2280342
....games