/vr/ - Retro Games

>>2235335
It wasn't bad. It just didn't use the same sony hardware as the SNES, so at first when developers ported over tons of SNES games, they had trouble with the sound. Games designed for the ground up on it sound good.

>>2235335
NOT RETRO

Nintendo cheeped out, just as they did with the cartridge space.
Could have been a portable PlayStation, was a portable SNES instead, which isn't a bad thing but a bit of a waste of its 32-bits.

>>2235335
Developers used sample based music on a system with a lousy DAC. The DAC on the SNES is 16-bit while the GBA only had an 8-bit DAC. No idea why Nintendo didn't include a 16-bit DAC because they are not THAT much more expensive.

Also: not retro, but it's okay if we compare it to retro systems I guess

>>2235354
>So much stupidity

the games specifically made for the console aren't retro for this boards standards, but the console can play the GB and GBC library which are retro... the best GBA was definitely one of two last versions which was the AGS-101, with 2 levels of brightness. The GBA Micro can only play the GBA library IIRC-

>>2235335
The SNES sound chip was designed by Sony so they couldn't use it, and it was cheap. Still sounds better than the TurboGrafx.

Nintendo handhelds always had shit sound.
GBA, DS, and now the 3DS.

>>2235540
With headphones too?

>>2235465
>Still sounds better than the TurboGrafx.

How can a guy have so much shit taste?

>>2235465
Now I know you're trolling

It doesn't make any sense how most games had shitty sound when the gba mostly worked with samples.
I think it was the shitty speaker and limited cart sizes that were the problem.
Listen to this shit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leWLIV2lGcM

>>2235653
Or this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlgA4Dv6sVI
Also not retro this thread will die soon.

>>2235462
>backlit GBA

I'll never forget the awful refresh rate on that model.

I hated the GBA so much I stopped buying Nintendo hardware.

A better question is why is this thread still up?

>>2235662
true, refresh rate got lowered...
>http://www.ign.com/articles/2005/09/21/gba-sp-gets-brighter

this article talks about the last 3 GBA models

>>2235801
>forgot pic

>>2235662
Forgive my technical ignorance, but explain to me refresh rates on a game boy and how a "shitty" one affects gameplay

A question to follow: why did they try to make this music collaboration thing on it?

>>2235849
i'd imagine it looks and/or feels slower. Noticeably too if people are complaining

>>2235870
I only ask because I have a 101 SP and it's my handheld of choice. I haven't noticed anything out of the ordinary.

>>2235849
>>2235872

I'm not >>2235662

Orignal GBA and GBA SP frontlit version had a refresh rate of 60fps, just as the GBA Micro, the brighter SP backlit version model had a refresh rate of 50fps.

A slower refresh rate can, for instance, make scrolling fast or fast movements on the screen seem a bit blurry. I've never compared both systems side by side to be honest.

So what's the best GBA solution then? An original with an Afterburner kit, some sort of 001 screen, some sort of 101 screen, or the backwards incompatible GBA Micro?

>>2235369
Nah, there were plenty of miniature storage mediums out there that would have allowed for bigger games, and there where phones that had a better DAC back then. But at least it had backwards compatibility.

So what's the best GBA solution then? An original with an Afterburner kit, some sort of 001 screen, some sort of 101 screen, or the backwards incompatible GBA Micro?

>>2235881
Also consider that the Afterburner appears brighter on some pictures than on others.

Why can't you idiots fuck off to /v/?

>>2235653
>>2235656
Because samples take up space and developers had only 32 MB to work with maximum, so most I imagine would rather let the system itself render the audio to save up space for more game.

>>2235882
For me the GBA was about the possibility of playing GB, GBC and a new line of games designed for the console, I've never played the first SP in complete darkness but I can play for a couple of hours the SP+ without major problems- I'll stick with that, if not, I'd get an afterburner and stick it in the original one. That would probably be the "solution" you're looking for.

>>2235653

The cart sizes were way bigger than on the SNES, so that should not be an issue.

Also, remember to sage non retro threads.

>>2235918
>The cart sizes were way bigger than on the SNES

No, the default size was 32 MB, about the same as Chrono Trigger (with games like Star Ocean and Tales of Phantasia going up to 48 MB). Sample payback takes up more space than songs rendered on the default audio hardware. SNES was better at that.

>>2235927

You're confusing megabits with megabytes.

A 32 Mb game is equal to 4 MB.

>>2235653
>>2235656
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MG5EzU2EZ5o
The game had some great compositions, but the shitty for even GBC standards sound quality fucked it up.

>>2235936
Ahh, right. Sorry, I'm a bit rusty in my bits and bytes. But point still stands, GBA games rarely went over 8 megabytes which isn't that much larger than your average SNES game.

Is there any reason why Wolfenstein GBA had no music? It was so close to being a perfect port of the original.

>>2235943

That game didn't even use the GBA sound chip. It was all synthesized.

>>2235335

Are the mods gone tonight? It's been a hour

>>2235462
With that logic we can discuss PS3 and 360 hardware because they have games from the 80s on their market place along with compilations like Sonic's Ultimate Genesis Collection.

>>2235998
And if the emufags ever get their fill of filter threads they will.

>people crying in this thread

First off, if Dreamcast's retro then so is this. Secondly let's be honest, /vr/ is a better place to discuss anything than /v/, and GBA games are more similar to Retro games than "Modern" games anyway.

>>2235998
I get your point... the rule is still vague as hell, JXD consoles shouldn't be discussed since they can emulate PSP, NDS and other non retro shit, but we've seen JXD threads go on for days... ¿get where I'm going?

>>2236014
>If X is retro so is Y!
>If Y is retro so is Z!

Nah, fuck off.

>B-b-b-b-but /vr/ is a better place to discuss this than /v/!

Nah, fuck off.

>>2236014
>then so is this.

Not until the mods put it in the sticky. The excuse of /vr/ being better to discuss something than /v/ is a terrible one too because that would mean damn near everything should be allowed to discuss on here.

>>2235335

I don't think the GBA had a dedicated sound chip like the SNES did. I believe it was handled by the CPU

From my understanding of flat screens the color making part and the light making part are different things. Soooo, shouldn't it theoretically be possible to take the light making panel off the back of an AGS-101 screen and put it behind a regular 60 Hz GBA screen, maybe with some foil removed or something?

>>2236035
Alternatively what about these newfangled EL wire things?

Why is this shit still up?

>>2236035

No, because the LCD (The part that actually displays the images) in the AGS-001 isnt designed to work with a back light in the AGS-101. It's only designed to be front-lit.

You would have to swap everything, but I don't think they are connected the same.

>>2235343
>>2235765
>>2235887
>>2235990
>>2236019
>>2236080
Delicious bitch tears.

Not /vr/
Thread reported

>>2236108
6th gen baby please. Why do you kids always say everyone is crying?

>>2236108
Bitching about following the rules amuses you?
>>>/v/
You will love it there

Moooooooods
They're posting the equivalent of cheese pizza with this Gba shite.

>>2236014
>if Dreamcast's retro then so is this
the Dreamcast came out before the 21st century

the GBA did not

kill yourself back to >>>/v/

what does /vr/ think of the K101 Revo?

Man people are so touchy about things being the right amount of retro. GBA isn't current and the thread is good and not hurting anything.

>>2236270
I don't see the big deal. It's essentially a portable SNES. I'd argue that it's more "retro" than even the 5th gen consoles.

But I've been arguing for a while now that we should just have a sliding scale of -15 years that goes purely based on release date of the game and not of the system that its on. Doubt that'll ever happen, but IMO it makes far more sense than even more arbitrary rules such as "games on this console are allowed even though the games were released in 2001 onward but this console and the games that came out in 2000 are banned"

>>2236262
NOT /VR/
FUCK OFF

>>2236281
Fuck that. The day Halobox is allowed is the day /vr/ turns into /v 2.0/

>>2236270
this is 4chan mate... expect anything.

Granted that the GBA isn't a retro console according to the board standards, because of the date it launched, the discussion is about an aspect of the hardware of the console in question, which plays the entire GB and GBC library which are retro... rule purists who aren't trolls would just report the thread and carry on with their lives...

>>2236283
the GBA it's self isn't /vr/

>>2236290
That's right, it isn't, so don't go posting other modern shite too

>>2236289
You're just asking for a "should we discuss the PS2 which plays PSX games?" response with your post there.

The absolute fuck. Not /vr/
Get this thread off /vr/
Mods, please leave your doom general circle jerk and do your jobs.

Fucking millennial GBA posters are why this board sucks

>>2236270
>>2236281
I think some people are afraid that if things like the GBA are allowed then people will think it's ok to talk about other things from that time period, and then you also have the people that like to play back seat mod and take it on themselves to enforce rules. Even though I think GBA threads shouldn't be allowed unto mods say one way or another, I still think such people are silly. No one is going to think it's ok to make threads about the PS2 because some one posted a thread about a handheld that came out around the same time period but plays SNES style games.

>>2236294
yeah, it would make sense to have a thread about playing original playstation released games, on the ps2 console here rather than /v/, that's my opinion, but I don't make the rules and I don't give a fuck anyway... I'm just pointing out that flaming in the thread because of 'mah rules' is laughable...

mods are asleep
post gba

HOLY shit.
OP here. Totally fucked up on remembering the Dreamcast cut-off. Didn't mean for this to turn into a shit show.

>>2236294
because that is totally what is going to happen, people are SO going to think it's ok to talk about PS2 games because the GBA is ok and ONLY plays 16 bit era style games. People don't have a brain and can't use something called common sense.

>>2236317
personally I think a debate like this should take place anyhow. I think that the GBA should be allowed here because of the type of games that were made for it and that people think that allowing it would bring in people talking about the PS2 and XBOX are over reacting.

>>2236317
>if really OP
u dun goofed OP, at least post something topic related to counter pls---

>>2236324
Right, because we didn't have people going "WELL WHY ISN'T THE PS2/XBOX/GAMECUBE RETRO?" right after the Dreamcast was added to the sticky.

>>2236327
Uh. Well.
I have a Commander Keen tattoo if that makes anything better...

>>2236331
that's just creepy and pathetic...

The GBA was pretty much my entire childhood next to Halo

Haha, man what was even up with some of those levels?

Epic game if you ask me!

>>2236329
>implying that people that did that weren't trolling
also it eventually went away, so I don't see the big deal.
also also, people were doing that before that happened as well.

>>2236335
fuck off troll

>>2236340
What's wrong?

Do you like this game?

>>2236345
>>2236335
oh yay, sockpuppeting
haven't seen this technique in a while. At least you are marginally more intelligent than most trolls here, if not by much.

>>2236347
You sound upset. Would you like to play some Pokemon Sapphire?

>>2236356
I don't see where I indicated that I was anything but amused, but sure.

>>2235568
The TurboGrafx has really shitty sound to me, worse than a lot of NES games; so tinny, farty, and weak. Not quite as ear-grating as some Genesis games with GEM, but overall sub-par.

>>2235653
I may be wrong, but I heard the CPU handled a lot of sound mixing, and graphically impressive and/or really hectic games had to skimp on the sound to make it work.

>>2235967
See >>2236380

>>2236380
yes I read something like that too, and it was mentioned in the thread, it doesn't have dedicated sample playback.

>>2236262
Looks like a stupid Kickstarter-funded bastard child of the Dingoo.

>>2236389
It's some stupid GBA clone thing that is marketed as somehow being better than chinese clone because it uses "software on a chip technology" rather than emulation. I'm sorry, but isn't that still emulation, and why not just buy an actual GBA, it's not like they are uncommon or expensive of anything.

>>2236372
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCv5cHixP_c
This sounds bad to you?

>>2236296
>Mods, please leave your doom general circle jerk and do your jobs.

they even had their own shitposting spree and said posts are still up, this is in general

the mods are truly gone missing as we speak

>>2236428
'been monitoring /vr/ for some hours, troll posts in this thread got deleted, another thread about GameCube games got deleted, this thread did not-

>>2236262
I own one. It just isn't the same.
Biggest complaints are the screen, which tries to pull off 2x native, and the action on the buttons (especially dpad and shoulders) being a bit too high and loose. Other than that it's an unexpectedly well-built machine, but there are better alternatives for around the same price.

>>2235335
GBA, I'm really happy for you, I'mma let you finish, but the DS Lite is the best handheld of all time.

>Retro gaming means consoles, computer games, arcade games (including pinball) and any other forms of video games on platforms launched in 1999 and earlier.
>1999 and earlier.

The GBA was released in Japan on March 21, 2001; in North America on June 11, 2001; in Australia and Europe on June 22, 2001; and in the People's Republic of China on June 8, 2004 (excluding Hong Kong).
>1999 and earlier.
>1999 and earlier.

>>2236436
>>2236428
how exactly do you people even know it's mods doing this?

>>2236449
it's been said a million times now, and the OP has even apologized for makings this thread. I don't know what you think you will accomplish by saying it again.

The mods are allowing GBA threads in /vr/ because 90's kids YOLO.
Now GBA is retro and next year we'll be having HALO and Max Paine generals.

>>2236450
I was just pointing out those facts >>2236436
maybe mods didn't delete shit, but trolls don't usually delete their posts when they get replies---

OP here again.
I was born in 86. I'm not some shit kid trying to troll. I just forgot that we're still a little bit away from that era being "retro." I feel like I broke /vr/

>>2236476
Back on topic OP, read this shit, I took it from a forum and it shes some light on the topic:

They are the most shameless penny pinchers in the world. They go beyond law, moral and family to save a quarter of a cent.

The GBA DAC is a piece of shit. At best you get 8 bits resolution per channel. But only for sample rates <=32.768kHz. And because 8 bits is alreay fucking terrible, nobody in their right mind went higher.

Speaking of which, sample rates are exact powers of two. The hardware is fundamentally incompatible with any studio-produced audio. Every little squip or blurp you want to take out of a sample collection, onto the GBA, has to undergo a resampling process, which has never helped quality. And then the crappy 0.00000001$ DAC comes in and kills whatever quality you have left.

>>2236459
>>2236449
Im all for retro talk on here but quite simply the GBA does not fit the boards description. If we let it in a whole manner of other crap comes along with it.

Sometimes I think they should rename VR to AVG:
Actual Video Games or just allow everything up to 1 generation behind the newest

>>2236483-san pretty much gets it, 8 bit audio is inherently noisy and the sound signal path is poorly isolated so you hear noise from the other components as well.

The other two main factors:

Most devs used Nintendo's software audio synthesis library, which was pretty barebones, just basic samples modulated by volume and frequency envelopes IIRC. There's a fan patch of FFVI GBA, for instance, that replaces the audio engine with one that provides FIR filters (used for echo for music, lowpass for sound effects, etc) like the original used the SNES's audio hardware for, and it sounds significantly better than the "authentic" port.

Also, memory still wasn't ''that'' cheap in the days of the GBA, so a lot of devs lesser quality samples to save space.

>>2236114
It's not gonna do anything. The janitor here just deletes whatever the hell he wants with no regards to whether it's actually on-topic or not and the mods pretty much forgot this board exists.

>>2236318
>people are SO going to think it's ok to talk about PS2 games because the GBA is ok and ONLY plays 16 bit era style games

It will if you use your retarded logic of allowing it to be on topic because it's backwards compatible. Think about what you just posted, you're saying that people wouldn't abuse a loophole that you yourself just abused in order to discuss what you wanted.

>>2236550

>>2236556
You're wasting your breath dude. Kids like him/her/it are immune to logic. Just report and ignore.

The GBA came out in 2001, but it's pretty much /vr/ material in my opinion. Hell, So are the other 6th-gen systems, as long as you don't count games released past 2006.

>>2236617
>The GBA came out in 2001, but it's pretty much /vr/ material in my opinion.

I'm O.K. wit dis.

>Hell, So are the other 6th-gen systems, as long as you don't count games released past 2006.

It's game over /vr/, the floodgates are open, we dun goof'd now

>>2236617
You have to be 18+ to use this site.

>>2236627
Born in '93, bro. I was 8 when I got my GameCube in the summer of 02.

>>2236459
>and next year we'll be having HALO and Max Paine generals.
Except that Max Paine and Halo are in fact just as old as Unreal Tournament and System Shock 2 were when /vr/ was founded. /vr/ is stuck in time because there are people that don't want to accept that there are people slightly younger than them that have slightly different views.

>>2236556
So tell me, what exactly is wrong about discussing the act of playing PS1 games on a PS2 or PS3? I think it's a pretty legit concern what platform is the best to play PS1 games on.

>>2236653
Because it's just a thinly veiled excuse to talk about non-retro stuff. It's like those guys who will make a thread based on an anime game so they can discuss the anime series. If you wanna talk about non retro hardware go to /v/ or /g/ where it's allowed instead of jumping through all these hoops.

>>2236660
Okay, I'll ask you again. What is non-retro about investigating the best way to play PS1 games?

>>2236661
It's non-retro because you're discussing non-retro hardware.

>>2236550
Just start talking about the irc logs if you want the thread to be swiftly deleted ;-)

>>2236418
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWkqIHD-rdo
I'm with this guy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQD-21G43kQ

>>2235335
We think it can be retro because it's hardware is far below Dreamcast level, but the game library has licensed stuff from movies and tv shows far into 2005-2007 range. Next you guys ill want to talk about the ps2 here. Take this stuff to /v/ and ignore the shitposts there. We still need a board for snes, nes, atari, etc.

>>2236710
Almost all the graphics are pre-rendered anyway.

Hahaha, people giving fucks about rules, lets talk about ps2 and gamecube, is about time

What's your favourite neo-/vr/ game bros?

2015 02 16 - The Day /vr/ Was Kill

the fire rises

>make a thread about a retro video game critic
>janitors delete it
>meanwhile this thread has been on the front page all night

I'm fine with GBA games being allowed here, but I just want to know what is and isn't allowed here.

Nobody gives a shit if you had one of these when you were little. GBA is not retro.

>>2236740
Where we're going, we don't need... rules.

>>2236459
>Sixth gen allowed
>Zelda threads will never be anything but shitposting, along more shit.
I say we should wait at least two more years until we let sixth gen games.

>>2236771
>I say we should wait at least two more years until we let sixth gen games.
no

>>2236740
>but I just want to know what is and isn't allowed here.
it's in the sticky.

however, the mods are gba fanboys and always leave them up. the last one hit bump limit.

check out the archive and look at all the perfectly fine, on-topic, rule following threads that were manually deleted off the server by mods.

it's ridiculous.

>>2235335

Okay, the mods must be drunk because I reported this ten hours ago and it's still up. GBA isn't pre-1998

>>2236270

I post actual /vr/ discussion threads and they get deleted within minutes but this thread very clearly meant for a 2000s handheld is not?

Don't let this be like Digimon on /co/, where the mods don't care

If we're talking about GBA, might as well allow GameCube since they had connectivity features. Speaking of which, which game had the best link feature? Animal Crossing? Metroid Prime?

>>2235662
>>2235801
>>2235876
Jesus, I had no idea. Would this effect getting a gen 1 GBA modded with a backlight screen for the worse?

>>2236807
>reporting threads

>>2236459

I'm a late 90s kid and this isn't retro. /v/ may suck and not wanna discuss it but they do not discuss a lot of good games. GBA won't be retro unfil at least 2020

>>2236725

I remember I once made a TS1 thread and it got deleted within like 2 minutes

>>2236821
So there's a 20 year cutoff? Then why are we allowed to talk about dreamcast? Hell, by that logic we shouldn't be allowed to talk about N64 and we are only allowed to discuss playstation/saturn starting this year.

all you fools are just fueling this shitfest fire.
the faggot mods are gba fanboys and are testing the waters.
be prepared for /v2.0/

you've been warned.

>>2236827
no, moron

the cut off is 1999.

the dreamcast is allowed because it fits that rule, not to mention that the dreamcast had the same major releases BEFORE psx/n64

>The user has been banned for this post.
>Reason: not retro.

>>2236830
But you just said it would be retro in 2020.
You can't hold both opinions (something is retro after a certain point, retro cutoff is 1999 and unchanging) at the same time.

>>2236827

1999 is the current cut off. On other places some consider sixth gen retro but on 4chan it is not.

1999 was only 16 years ago

>>2236832
i'm not that guy, that guy was retarded.
just like you
just like this thread
just like the mods

ITT everyone gets b& for criticising /vr/'s based mods and janitors.
God bless 'em.

>>2236842
wow m8, didn't you know that people come to 4chan to have fun, so long as it's not at the expense of others?

/vr/ was defeated by a GBA.

We've all been played.

>>2236832

I said by 2020. Right now it feels too young. Dreamcast is a 90s console with 90s games

>>2236874
But the difference between the two is one year

>>2236617
>in my opinion

And that's exactly the problem with this shit.

Never forget

>>2236965
Disappointing they went from four face buttons to two.

>>2237083
Agreed, four buttons would've made it a competent piece of hardware to use as a USB game controller as well (the necessary cable connection and software even exists: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_E-wSpCEXi4 ), but with two buttons all it's good for is emulating NES and Master System games.

>3 gamecube threads in one night
>All of them got canned
>GBA thread is still up

I guess GBA is being considered retro then, Favorite GBA game/SNES port /vr/?

>>2237083
I'm honestly surprised they didn't get four face buttons and two shoulders just to make it 1:1 with the SNES. Seems like it'd have been a no-brainer.

>>2237114
Probably because they wanted to obscure the fact that they cut corners substantially on the GBA and that it wouldn't have been able to play SNES ports without severe downgrades.

>>2235662
It wasn't awful. And honestly it was worth it for the improved visibility in general.

>>2237118
Was the visibility on the 001 model not good enough?

>>2237124
The only bad thing about the frontlight is that it can wash out the graphics a bit.

>>2237124
Not really, no. It was passable, but everything looks so much better on the Micro and the 101. I'd trade the slight decrease in refresh rate for the better lighting and colors any day.

Most games I played didn't seem to move quick enough or consistently enough to make the slight blur an issue anyway.

>>2237105
Maybe if the GameCube had backwards compatibility we could discuss it. I've seen peopel talk about it's game boy adapter here.

People talk about the PS2 here as well, not the games, but the console itself rather than the games, as many people use it to play PSX games.

>>2236813
someone was saying that orginal gba structure doesn't allow a back light, the afterburner mod was a front light afaik, it had some small issues... anyway, the mod didn't mess with the refresh rate, batteries died faster though.

>>2237316 replying to >>2236813

I did some quick research and found a vid on youtube of this guy putting a backlit screen on an original GBA, the guy had to cut through the plastic to make the screen fit, see the results...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eL52H3mnHpI

refresh rate? I would imagine that the refresh rate of the screen stays at 50fps.

First Dreamcast now this? Well guess it's only a matter of time till 6th gen is fully allowed. Was fun /vr/.

>>2237374
Isn't the refresh rate dictated by the video output though, not the screen?

>>2237384
yeah it works that way but... some screens only work at a specific refresh rate and won't allow anything else.

>>2236329
The only reason the Dreamcast is retro is because it's game library died so early. If it has games going into 2004 then it wouldn't be allowed either. GBA is well beyond that.

>>2236649
Yeah but why shouldn't /vr/ be stuck in time? Isn't that the point? There's no need to slide the boundries of what is retro gaming. Just make a mid 2000s general on /v/ faggot.

WE DON'T NEED TO SLIDE WHAT IS CONSIDERED RETRO. WE DON'T NEED TO ADD MORE RETRO.

This is not an outdated console board. We don't fucking add system as they get old.

Stick to 5th gen and leave the pre-rendered gba garbage out of it.

>>2237396
But shouldn't they just shut down if you feed them a higher refresh rate, instead of blurring things? Or in other words, how come the 101 screen works when swapped into the original GBA? Does it have enough intelligence to overwrite the 60 Hz input and turn it into blurry 50 Hz? Or will it actually start displaying at 60 Hz?

>>2236661
If you wanted to talk about emulation or medchips get the fuck out, that's not retro. There's an emulation generals on two other boards.

>>2236832


THERE IS NO NUMBER OF YEARS CUT OFF.

The retro rules don't slide fucking faggots.

>>2237452
Different anon.
Emulation is really borderline for me. But I think overall it should be allowed. It gets more gray when you talk about modern consoles playing retro games. That should in no way allow the discussion of modern consoles to be allowed though.

/vr/ = all hardware before 1999 including games released on hardware before 1999 (that includes homebrew).

over-thinking this only leads to more shitfests,

>>2237463 I only emulate retro games. I always talk about the monitor I am using the and the games I am playing, and I leave the emulation part out of it. If I want to talk about accurate emulation, texture repacks, etc. I go somewhere else. I don't even think hacks of SMW should be here.

>>2237467
>I don't even think hacks of SMW should be here.
You know you can stick them into the original console with a flashcart adapter, right?

>>2237467
I don't emulate anything but I do use upscalers. Upscalers should be allowed for discussion on /vr/. As should mods to consoles and flashcarts. That is something that has been around with retro games since the get go. Especially with people using arcade boards.

Emulation like I said should be allowed but when you get into the "what is the best handheld for emulation" bullshit that is not retro. You're talking about modern hardware whose aim is not playing retro games.

>>2237451
I'm not tech savvy in this matter mate, this is what I reckon:

the sp+ screen will work at 50fps no matter what input it gets, it won't shut down if it gets more input, it'll just carry on refreshing 50 times in a second, so if any GBA cart throws 60fps at it (yes, GBA games were designed thinking in 60fps if you consider that the original GBA and the first SP screens work at that refresh rate), it'll just throw 50fps, therefore, 10 frames will be lost, who will notice this? I know I haven't, but I have never compared both systems running at the same time, the same game...

When they made the sp+ they probably had a "reason" to knock 10 frames from the refresh rate... maybe it has something to do with higher power usage because of the new lighting system? They probably evaluated the frame rate drop of the screen and noticed it wasn't that much of a deal... I don't know.

If there were a process in the middle that regulated the fps between the cart and the screen, then in that case, and only if the screen of the sp+ allows 60fps, putting it into the original gba, which in this case is giving you 60fps, would be the perfect solution and you'd be getting 60fps in the brilliant sp+ screen...

>>2237482
>cont

oh wait but, there "is" a process in the middle.. yes? so the question is. Does the sp+ give you 50fps because its video output setting is adjusted to that frame rate, or is it because the screen is designed to only work at 50fps?

>>2237482
>When they made the sp+ they probably had a "reason" to knock 10 frames from the refresh rate
Cost cutting possibly? I mean, the plastic shell on the SP was also downgraded and got scratches and ruboffs far more easily than any previous Nintendo handheld. I go to Ebay and half the SPs on there have discolored edges along the outside.

Also I want to ask again because last night's post didn't receive any replies. Can't you simply take the screen out of the original, peel some lightproof foil or something off the back and slap some of that newfangled EL tape stuff behind it? Isn't that how backlighting in LCDs works anyway?

>>2237497
I dunno mate... maybe you didn't get replies because nobody knows the answer here... anyway, on youtube I found some videos of people messing around swapping GBA screens, because of the "lighting problem", however every solution seems to be swapping the full screens or installing a lighting mod like the afterburner.

>>2237509
I don't have a GBA or tools handy right now to take it apart myself, but judging from this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eL52H3mnHpI video the screen seems to sit in a metal casing or shell of its own and looks like a fairly self contained unit.

>>2237524
there you go... so it wouldn't be possible to attach tape to it since its "encased".

>>2237554
No? The casing doesn't let light through, and to get inside the casing you'd probably have to pry it open and possibly destroy the screen. At this point I'd rather just stick an 001 screen or Afterburner mod in there to get at least some lighting while retaining the 60 Hz refresh rate.

>>2237559
yeah, between those 2, it's probably less "invasive" to stick an afterburner in it, since the other method requires you to peel plastic from the original case. I've never had an afterburner modded GBA in my hands, I've seen them on video. I know that it has some issues, probably depends on who installs it, too...

>>2237569
Or an 001 screen. Found this documentation of it for the first time just now, looks pretty okay to be honest, better than no light anyway.

https://gbatemp.net/threads/ags-001-screen-light-assembly-into-og-gba-mod.368171/

Apparently GBA was released in 1999 according to mods.

Anyway, I never had issue with the sound. The screen is inexcusable though

GBAbies get the fuck out

>>2237591
Damn that SP looks like it is really giving the image a blue-tint.

>>2237591
looks cool, but you still have to peel of the plastic of the case to make the screen fit. Well anyway, there are some alternatives to have a gba at 60fps with light... if you're willing to do some handiwork.

>>2237380

As someone who grew up with sixth gen I would love if /vr/ allowed that gen, in theory. /v/ is too fast paced and doesn't want to discuss most non-current gen stuff.

However I do not consider NGC or PS2 retro. It isn't retro yet

>>2237621
Nowadays I can't seem to find Afterburners or other light kits anywhere (then again maybe I should look harder), fitting an 001 screen may become the only viable option eventually.

>>2237646
yeah that's the other thing aside from the handiwork... getting the hardware.

>>2237451
I think someone's confusing refresh rate with response time. That's what causes the blur in older LCDs

Before the thread dies, ill explain


Sony worked on the Sound Chip for the SNES, and did not want to contribute to the GBA

>>2236649
You could always argue that /vr/ should be about a specific era in gaming (read: pre-00s), rather than a moving category of 'things that are x years older than current'.

Personally, I don't mind. I'm 25, so I would like to talk about NGC games, but as I haven't actually got my desktop up from London at the moment it's fairly moot.

>>2237625
>It isn't retro yet
It never will be.

>>2237686
/vr/ won't stay an exclusive grandpa club forever.

>>2237665
>Before the thread dies, ill explain

>>2235465

Good job dipshit, you're only about 175 replies and two days late

>>2237694
Reminder this is now your typical /vr/ poster

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zbBU-QTj0o

>>2237694
6th gen is the start of everything wrong with video games.
There are no arcades
There's LAN and Internet
There's DLC
Platformers are no longer king
The games are trash.

Nothing about 6th gen is retro. Old shit doesn't mean you just throw into the retro drawer.

>>2237701
>dat dubstep
>dat snot nosed kid
>dat snot nosed kid spouting profanities left and right like a tarantino wannabe

>mfw watching
literally

>>2237591

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Halo-Back-Light-Afterburner-Indigo-Purple-Gameboy-GBA-Better-than-Afterburner-/181517164560?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a43442010

another alternative to give lighting to the original GBA

>>2237703
>6th gen
>DLC
Get a fucking grip. Also LAN was the best thing ever to happen to PC gaming; and the death of arcades was a natural evolution, almost no one apart from nostalgics is going to go into town to play on cabinets for X amount of quarters a round when home consoles are capable of the exact same performance. Also arcade halls were long known as drug hotspots and certain events at the dawn of the millennium spawned a new mindset of paranoia and worry in western society, with newly arisen helicopter parents that didn't want their kids roaming free outside.

>>2237380
It's not allowed. The rules moot gave us haven't changed.
https://www.4chan.org/rules#vr
>Sixth generation and later consoles are not considered retro.
Respect this legacy, fight the Dreamcast wherever you see it on /vr/. The sticky means nothing in face of the rules.
Just today another Dreamcast thread was pruned.
https://archive.moe/vr/thread/2235951/

>>2237717
XBOX live kiddo.

LAN is great for PCs. For consoles not so much.
>play on cabinets for X amount of quarters a round when home consoles are capable of the exact same performance.
Hence games becoming lazily designed and only made for profit.

If you believe that bullshit about drugs you may as well believe the shit about the satan worshiping and games. Ya drugs were sold at certain shady spots. Big fucking deal.

>>2237706
I don't know whether to laugh or cringe.

>>2237708
Yeah ... I can't find a single picture of the Halo Light that doesn't make things look like complete junk.

>>2237730
>Hence games becoming lazily designed and only made for profit.
That's an ironic thing to say because as much as everyone here likes a challenge, a ton of arcade games were created to glue you to the cabinet and squeeze the quarters out of you.

>>2237740
And they had to be interesting and keep you engaged in order to do that.
Compared to today were the AAA games release in a broken state and the publishers are laughing all the way to the bank while you little shits keep gobbling it up and asking for more.

>>2237737
Aesthetically it looks ugly, to me at least... in this vid you can see that the game looks pretty decent though, lighting-wise. But in the end, you'd have to see it IRL.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vI_26fHDwS4

MODS = FAGS

>>2237752
We here in /vr/ prefer the word "janitors."

Does /vr/ just not have mods? How the fuck is there a 100+ replay thread that blatantly breaks the rules on a board as slow as this?

>>2237703
>The games are trash.

>>2237756
OF COURSE WE HAVE MODERATION

they just delete whatever doesnt suit their shit tastes

I wish I was kidding, this place has become a farce

>>2237758
HALO is garbage child.

>>2237754
JANITORS = FAGS

>>2237763
You're right, the Xbox only had Halo, no other games.

>>2237772
Look at all those inferior squeals and shitty over hyped games. Damn 6th gen is great.

FIGHT THE POWAH

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PaoLy7PHwk

>>2237773
Trying too hard.

>>2237773
Right, because this never ever happened before the sixth gen.

>>2237787
>>2237784
Maybe link some actual good game then.

>>2237805
What for, you'll decry it as awful anyway.

>>2237806
None of the games you link are any good or have are trash sequels.

>>2237821

>>2237701
The worst part is the tv he's playing on.

>>2237827
Nice reaction image. Expect nothing less for /v/ related content .

>>2237763
Of course it is, 6th gen has PS2 and Gamecube too, nobody cares about Xbox.

Sly cooper, R&C and Jak and daxter at the very least deserve to be talked about here as much as spyro and crash are.

>>2237787
>free pager offer
What the fuck.

>>2237834
/v/ reaction image for a /v/ poster.

>>2237842
Keep trying 6th gen baby

THE FIGHT RAGES ON

/vr/troopers, UNITE!!!

>>2237856
I will. Thanks for bumping<3

Its like /vr/ turns into /v/ when theres something non /vr/ related posted

its scary, like Jekyll/Hyde syndrome

>>2237869
MOTHERFUCKER

>>2237772
none of those games make me want to buy an xbox, none of them are bad or anything they just aren't anything special. I think you have been playing shitty games too long that stuff like that actually impresses you.

I used to think this was a good board but you guys are bitchier than /v/.
>soon we'll be allowing halo on /vr/!
no you won't
>dr-dreamcast 1999! 90s retro! gba 2001 MILLENNIAL DISTGUSTING.
ok.
>but the rules say...
its ok to care about the rules when it suits you isn't it? i'm not saying anything goes, but nobody who isn't autistic actually reads the rules and follows them religiously.

>>2237878
6th gen isn't welcome here. Never will be. Leave.

>>2237879
so dreamcast isn't allowed just to clarify that.

>>2237879

>>2237882
An exception was made. If you want to go full blown autist about it I wouldn't expect anything less from a 6th gen baby.

>>2237879

>>2237882
>>2237879
stop using generations take that faggot shit back to wikipedia. 21 century consoles are not allowed here. Dreamcast is 20th century discussion over. I don't give a fuck about Dreamcast it came out in 98 though so whatever

>>2237887
Oh my FUCKING GOD A PICTURE, EVERYBODY RuuuuuuUUUUNNNNnnnnnn

>>2237889

>>2237891
ANOTHER O---

>>2237879
>Never will be.
This is just plain wrong.

>>2237889
>make autistic statement
>read and understand the autistic statement as it is
>reader is autistic, not the poster

>>2237879
>>>/v/

>>2237887
>can't install a HDD on it to have a collection of great ps2 games on it at all times
It's cool that the size is so small, but that^ alone makes it shit.
And no, loading the games through USB is not an alternative.

So why are we following Moots rules for this board when he's long gone?

New admin may make GBA retro and everyone will just conform anyways, so don't see the big deal.

>>2235756
wow, it took you that long?
i stopped after N64

>>2237901
>>2237898
Nice meme text

What if everyone stopped being autistic and discussed the GBA as that is what this thread is about - the retro Nintendo system the GBA.

>>2237903
>linking to /v/

No need. Judging by the quality of posts from the pro and anti 6th gen crowd, we're already there.

>>2237915
seriously this guy
>>>>/v/

>>2237916
nice trae fagget

>>2237920
Yes that's where your offtopic shit belongs.

ITT we post our favorite childhood retro games. I'll start.

>>2237927
>>>/v/

>>2237932
Do you like to agree with yourself often?

>>2237934
Do you like to assume we're all the same person?

>>2237934
Keep bumping a thread you're so against, retard.

>>2237939
No I know the 6th baby population is quite large. Just look at /v/.

>>2237918
RIP /vr/

We killed ourselves,

it wasn't them

it was us

we did this

>>2237943
>i know the population of the generation after me is quite large
and you needed to look at /v/ to realize that?

>>2237905
Actually with an early enough Slim model and some handiwork you can. Enjoy translating this Hungarian website.

http://logout.hu/cikk/playstation_2_slim_hdd_mod_2/teljes.html

>>2237929
>>2237929
ayyyy lmao

>>2237943
Your quality of posts will fit right in there.
>>>/v/

>>2237953
Well /vr/ is fairly new. Was nice before the little shits came in.

What the hell is even going on ITT?

>>2237957
Nigga fuck off and more importantly fuck yOU

>>2236019
>>2236021
>>2236153
salty samefag, stay mad while this topic stays alive

>>2237963
funposting

*grabs dick*
Who's first?

>>2237963
In case you haven't been keeping up with the latest events:

/vr/ is going to shit

>>2237963
Two idiots thinking they can out-shitpost each other. The pro 6th gen guy probably isn't even pro 6th gen, he just wants to make someone angry.

>>2237971
there's not just two of us

>>2237963
Adults acting like adults.

>>2237971
>>2237970
So what some people think /vr/ should allow GBA, PS2, XBOX, and GC?

I don't entirely disagree.

Uhhhh what's going on here???

>>2237972
>>2237971

THERE'S ME AS WELL

ASSHOLES

What did you expect naming your board "RETRO VIDYA"

Thats like a magnet for this reddit infested Hellhole. Every kid who discovers 4chan will go, OH LIKE MY OLD VIDYA GAMES! and start talking about just how great halo was at his 5th birthday aprty when the master chief clown came and entertained everyone.

Face it, you did this to yourselves.

>>2237985
>master chief clown
That's funny and suburban as fuck

Like those kids wearing literal meme clothes and using meme school supplies

>>2237963
>/vr/ posters making themselves look like the immature kiddies they say populate /v/
>others being the trolls they are
>others trying to discuss the OP topic, considering the thread is up and who the fuck cares why it's still up...

GBA was the best Gameboy. Fight me nerds.

>>2238002
You ain't shit *hugs Game Gear*

'83 here, you're all acting horribly immature about this.

If the OP wants to post a thread on GBA let him, If it breaks the rules, the mods will do their job. Otherwise contribute to the discussion. from your bantering alone you've let this thread live this long. If it were ignored it would fall off the last page and kill itself.

Personally, I have no beef with "6th gen" but if everyone else is so anal about this, I feel we could come to a much better discussion on this by actually making a petition to either permanently ban, or newly allow these extra additions.

This has got to /v/ levels of shitposting, and is just honestly sad.

>>2238007
>Game Gear
Literally shit-tier.

>>2238007
The game gear fucking sucked dick. Shit games, and abysmal fucking battery life. It was just complete fucking garbage. It's laughable that Sega thought they could compete with the Gameboy line with that atrocity.

hello

Middle Ages here

Wood Brick is still best past time
Dues Vult!

Bitches, leave

>>2235335
is it true nintendo basically had a GBA ready in the late 90s, but held off on release and did the GBC instead?

>>2235335

>This thread

So the GBA steathly crept into /vr/ huh?

I approve

>>2238046
>steathly

No, not "stealthly"

>>2237694
>/vr/ won't stay an exclusive grandpa club forever.
This is how I picture you.
Except not quite that mature.

>>2237679
>specific era
Nah. It just makes sense to add more recent consoles as time passes. Like how in 1993 moot moved all the cool dinosaurs from the Creataceous period to the Jurrasic period for logical scientific reasons.

>>2238059
dude stop

im not even him/them, im the resident troll and seriously, knock it off

>all this autism ITT
You guys are gonna love this episode of Retronauts: http://www.retronauts.com/?p=959

>>2238075
it's 2 l8 m8

off 2 bed

if I wake up tomarrow and see this thread still up im gonna go medieval on this thread

>>2237967
If it were samefag the mod or janitor would have deleted both posts you idiot.

>>2238090
JANITOR dammit

>>2238013
Trolling aside there are a bunch of good 6th gen games but I really don't get how that generation can be retro. It has little in common with the prior generation, even 5th. Such as the number 1 selling game being a fps.

>>2238115
Wasn't goldeneye the best selling game on the n64 beating even mario?

A good majority of the GBA's library were ports of SNES titles, not to mention how similar the GBA felt, it was basically a portable SNES with a higher grade sound chip and portability, It didn't get really enjoyable until the backlight of the SP, and GB player, but it was pretty much the same.

It should be allowed here. Plus Gameboy/Gameboy color threads bleed into Advance anyways, why don't we just call Gameboy retro and be done with it already, its not like its the DS or 3DS.

>>2238124
Nope.Nor was it the top selling game of the generation. Big seller though.

>>2238075
>But whatever your personal definition, I won’t lie: Talking about the Nintendo DS as a classic game system is really stretching that definition to the breaking point.

At least they acknowledge the fact that they're more-or-less wrong in calling the DS retro.

>>2237887
>>2237891
>>2237895

Now that the dust has settled and we've agreed upon 6th gen being retro, when will we start accepting 7th gen as retro????

>>2238167
When your mother lowers her price from $20/hr

Sticky plz

screencapped for when people say "not /vr/ but /v/ is shit so I'm gonna post something non /vr/ anyways"

to show the slippery slope

>>2238185
Pretty much. This damn thread is STILL up...

>>2236019
>this post was deleted
>the whole thread is still up
Fucking really?

Delete this gay thread

lmao

>>2236825
>Timesplitters
My nigga.

>>2238227
Is it me or were the sequels like a thousand times better than the first? Not that the first one is bad, it was good for its time, but the sequels improved upon pretty much every aspect.

>>2236372
sounds like you have bad caps

How could you not love this track.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZocM0ZCnH5Q

STOP BUMPING THIS!!!

>>2238374
Make me cunt.

>>2238374
What do you mean?

>green blood

You had ONE JOB.

ONE FUCKING JOB.

>>2238429
Still better than the SNES version but that's not saying much.

>>2238429
Yeah, to make it a T which they did perfectly.

>>2238438

And all 4 people in the world who bought it -- all living in Salt Lake City -- were happy with it.

>>2237957
>http://logout.hu/cikk/playstation_2_slim_hdd_mod_2/teljes.html
this is cool

>>2235335
continuing the sound issue---
This is a cool comparison:

Listen to the track Onett from Mother1+2 how it sounds on the GBA, then listen to a flac file file, which basically is a GBAmusRiper (app that rips the midi and high quality samples from the game and automatically compiles the samples into a soundfont and adjusts the midis to correspond with its appropriate in-game sample) midi file, which was converted to flac. In other words: you get the sound info that is stored in the game, but you convert it with other hardware/software to a midi file. This gives you an idea of how much the GBA is butchering the sound with its conversion.

>GBA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYwKqQ-yly0

>GBAmusRiper
http://wikisend.com/download/911888/Onett.flac

if you want to listen to other examples and know more about this app google
>High Quality GBA OSTs (Technically...)

>>2238595
Thanks for the bump brah :D

Awesome thread

>>2238595
Doesn't help that they fucked with the compositions, too.

Turns out the GBA is retro after all.

It's pointless to make a handheld with great sound, if you play it in public, the sound would be hindered by all the noise around you, also having shitty sound would probably waste less battery, and if you really care about sound, you would use headphones.

>>2238048

stealthily

>>2238625
>and if you really care about sound, you would use headphones

Bingo. All the more reason to make the sound at least tolerable with headphones.
Songs on the GBA that sound good are the ones that know the must keep it simple, almost nes like.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YQioTDn2ig

Still not deleted?

>>2239006
I think it might even get stickied.

The mods should change the sticky to "before 2000"

>>2237686

In 2030 it will be retro. In 2060 it will be retro. 100 years from now it will be vintage. The 1970s were modern once but now they're retro

>>2237686

>It isn't retro yet
>It never will be

Right, because in 2035 when we are all playing holograms with our dicks, A PS2 game won't be retro...

>>2239013
>>2239015
Retards like you are the reason this shitstain is still up,

replying to more than a day old shitpost, really guys?

>>2239017

Why are you still commenting in it then?

ITT: People who don't know how to use sage

>>2237717

DLC existed as early as the Dreamcast

>>2237756

Most boards have crap mods. Go on a nsfw board and see all the blatant loli and shota

>>2239023
what the FUCK is sage?

Oh look, all the kid wannabe trolls have woken up

here's to another 100 shitposts

tomorrow will be the same, the day after too

>>2239017

This isn't /v/ or /co/. We don't go through threads in 2 hours or less.

If mods let gen 6 in though who's not to say in eight years we'lll have Wii threads and PS3 ones?

OP here again.
Still can't believe this fucking thread is still up. Let me clear a few things up:

I wasn't trying to shitpost.
I wasn't trying to start neo /vr/
I wasn't trying to open any sort of fucking floodgates

I had just beaten Metroid: Zero Mission for the first time in a decade, and during the play through I noticed the sound quality was a little more grainy and "blown out" then I remembered. Just wanted some input from people. As soon as I posted, I remembered the 1999 deal, and thought "Shit. Well, whatever. It'll get deleted."

Now here we are.

>>2239060
>"Shit. Well, whatever. It'll get deleted."

And this is how /vr/ was destroyed, not just you OP but all others who exhibited the same attitude towards this board.

Hope youre all proud.

>>2239060

/v/ hates talking about most ten year old games. We're lucky Animal Forest is a N64 game because /v/ doesn't talk about Population Growing

So, uh...

Anyone know where to get an EZ Flash IV for a decent price in the US?

this thread is delicious drama

>>2238127

Majority? No, only a sum.

Ports are /vr/ but actual games are not

>>2239080
I got mine from RealHotStuff awhile back. It was $40. I'll let you be the judge of whether that's decent or not. I can also only imagine they've gone up in price.

>>2239118
Mother 3 Translation doesn't work on mine, is there something special you need to do for that one?

so /v/

is this a 101 or 001 screeN?

>>2239132
You'd easily be able to tell if the photo wasn't made in very bright external lighting conditions, noticable from the reflections, and the screen actually had to rely on its own lighting.

>>2239118
I tried to buy from them a couple weeks back and I got an email saying they didn't sell it anymore. I've been considering importing from a site based in UK, but I'm not sure how sketch it is. Seems better than ordering from China, but it all comes from there anyways so I'm not sure.

>>2239030
No, once it his 500 it won't bump so it should be gone the day after tomorrow.
Unless of course the authorities who refuse to delete it remove the bump limit in their cruelty.

>>2239132
If its using a frontlight, shouldn't there be an obvious glass in front of the screen that's reflecting the light from the bottom?

>>2238374
>STOP BUMPING THIS!!!
He says while bumping it.

>>2239017
I don't care what you say kid. GBA is retro to me, and I'm happy whenever a thread shows up here.

>>2239190
because it shows when you sage on /vr/

Wario Land 4 is one of the best 2D platformers I've ever played.

>>2239194
>kid
>GBA is retro to me
who is the kid here exactly?

also, why the fuck does this thread still exist after 2 days?
Mods plz do ur fucking jobs. k thx

>>2239257
also, my problem isn't that its about the GBA, it's that the thread is just pure shitpost, the OP post would still be a shitpost even it was about... say... the genesis or something.

>>2239257
It exists to soak up your manchild tears. Cry more.

I'm perfectly fine with the GBA being considered /vr/, especially considering that nobody talks about it on /v/ anymore, but please keep the PS2 and onwards away from the board for at least five years.

>>2239257
>Mods plz do ur fucking jobs. k thx
>>2236828

the mods are deleting posts within this rule breaking thread.
because they're faggots.

it happened a couple months ago too.
i'm calling it, come next month, on /vr/'s birthday, we'll have a new set of shitty rules that will ruin the board.

screenshot this.

You're gonna carry that weight...

>>2239296
Maybe then you'll cease your whining.

>>2239121
yes. you need to load it differently as its too much memory.

Let's settle this. Yay or nay on the GBA?

http://strawpoll.me/3664432

>>2239284

PS2 is from 2000. It's older than the GBA

>>2239194

>This board is for the discussion of classic, or "retro" games. Retro gaming means consoles, computer games, arcade games (including pinball) and any other forms of video games on platforms launched in 1999 and earlier. With the release of the 8th generation of consoles, the Sega Dreamcast will now be considered "retro", though the remainder of the sixth generation (Xbox, PS2, GameCube) will not.
>GBA JPN Release Date: 2001

>>2239350
>It's older than the GBA
Sure, but it's a more modern system and you can find ton of discussion about its games on /v/.

>>2239350
Why are you quoting rules as if I care? I don't care.

>>2239350

The GBA's younger than the PS2, but the games are a lot more "retro" in look and feel. The only modern series that started on the GBA are WarioWare, Battle Network, Mario & Luigi and Ace Attorney.

>>2239350
The sticky is wrong, Dreamcast isn't considered retro either.
https://www.4chan.org/rules#vr

>>2239353
How is it a more modern system?

>>2239359
look m8s we got a badass over here

>Thread has been up for two days

Mods pls

If you really exist, give me a sign

>>2239391
>If you really exist, give me a sign
are you blind? they have.

they've deleted posts within this thread but they leave the actual shit thread.

please excuse me while i add one more post towards the bump limit

>>2239362

Oh, I didn't realize this was a board for games with a "retro" feel. What did you guys think about shovel knight? How about Hotline Miami?

>>2239394
>please excuse me while i add one more post towards the bump limit
only 138 more to go

>>2239396
136

>>2239367
DVD drive, 3D games that paved the way for modern AAA and the like.
GBA was more of a portable SNES and was cobbled together from outdated hardware.

>>2239397
134

>>2239404
133

>>2239405
actually, it's 132

>>2239405
132

>>2239395
Contain your hyperbole, no one is saying that modern indies should be allowed. It's just that /vr/ could be flexible when it comes to GBA, just as it is already when it comes to SHMUP and general arcade gaming threads.

>>2239406
valid, i wasn't counting the post as i was posting. thanks friend for helping.

128

>>2239409
You're right, we should enforce the rules in those threads as well.

>>2239410
126

please keep up the cause in my absence
from possible banning

>>2239418
125

>>2239362

Have you played any GBA games? Bit look doesn't equal retro.

Also this thread would be full of indie if this board was for retro-ish stuff

>>2239425
123

>>2239428
122

>>2239429
121

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jK-NcRmVcw

>>2239425

Fair enough, but it still deserves to be here more than the other 6th gen consoles, and it would be justifiable if only the GBA was allowed.

>>2239437
118

>>2239435
118

117. I'll start up another thread as soon as this one dies.

>>2239448
do it you won't do it
116

>>2239449
115

>>2239365

It's like Digimon on /co/. It is against the rules nut even if you report mods don't care. It's accepted by mods

>>2239452
113

>>2235943
Sounds fine to me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tuci49S4AQ

>>2239453
110 we were off by one due a double 115

I told you faggots to just discuss the janny irc log leaks if you wanted it deleted so badly.

But did you listen? Of course you didn't.

>>2239456
108, I meant 118

2fast2furious

>>2239459
108