/vr/ - Retro Games

PERSON:
Richard "Harry Horse" Horne, creator of the PC game Drowned God: Conspiracy of the Ages.

WHERE IS HE NOW?
Dead. Killed himself after brutally murdering his wife and pets.

>>2212090
Wow, that's amazing, and one hell of a way to start the thread.

Radical Entertainment, developer of the nefarious Rocky & Bullwinkle, Wayne's World, and Terminator games for the NES. Has recently went out of business due to the poor performance of their last game, Prototype 2. As a result, the PC version has been "orphaned" and hasn't seen any updates.

PERSON:
Mark McCleskey, one of the heads of Data East USA before they were liquidated. Claims to be the guy who suggested the name "BurgerTime" since "Hamburger" couldn't be trademarked.

WHERE IS HE NOW?
Working as an insurance salesman for Allstate in Annapolis Maryland. He still has old gaming mags and whatnot in his office.

The only reason I know any of this is because I used to rent a place from him, and visited his office.

>>2212139
Amazing? That's one of the most horrible things I ever heard.

>>2212090
Well that's a bummer.

On January 10, 2007, Horne's body was discovered holding his wife Mandy, who had been terminally ill with multiple sclerosis, in their bungalow in Papil, West Burra.[3] The Daily Mail reported on July 13, 2008 that rather than the "Romeo and Juliet" scene described in many articles relating to their deaths, Horse had stabbed her thirty times before killing their pets and stabbing himself until he too bled to death.[4] The Daily Mail piece, which appeared in the print edition on Monday July 14, was in fact a follow-up to a lengthy investigative feature in the Sunday Times Magazine of 13 July 2008 by Peter and Leni Gillman, in which they had revealed the truth about the couple's death. The Gillmans had multiple sources for their revelation, including information from both families and the death certificates, which described the cause of death as exsanguination.[5] Actor Tam Dean Burn, who had put together an aborted radio tribute to Horse the week before Horse's death said that the 2008 report was "a cruel distortion" in 2009, after speaking with Horse's female relatives.[6]

PERSON:
Hideo Kojima, crazy bastard who created the crazy yet intriguing and thought provoking Metal Gear series.

WHERE IS HE NOW?
Still crazy, still making those crazy yet well written Metal Gear games.

>>2212154
Thanks Wikipedia!

>>2212156
>well written
>Metal Gear

>>2212159
>edginess reaching critical mass!

>>2212156
Oh yeah, the guy who made Tokimeki Memorial. I always wondered what happened to him.

>>2212160
Depends on what you compare it to. Compared to other NES games in the era, yeah, the plot is kinda neat. Compared to books or even movies, Metal Gear was a very standard by the numbers plot.

Now Metal Gear 2 had a pretty good plot.

>>2212160

You no doubt consider video games as art and hold Tolkien's Lord of the Rings as the pinnacle of English literature yes?

>>2212170

what's so bad about those opinions?

PERSON:
Tom Hall, co-founder of id Software/Ion Storm, designer of Commander Keen, developer on Wolfenstein 3D, voice of "Walton Simons" in Deus Ex.

WHERE IS HE NOW?
After Ion Storm folded, Tom Hall hopped from company to company without much fanfare, hitting several rough spots along the way. He had a debilitating stroke, unsuccessfully attempted to Kickstart two separate games, and now works at a company that produces casual games for Mac.

>>2212146
What a fitting picture you chose.

COMPANY:
Infinity, Japanese company responsible for Ultima 4 and Battle of Olympus for the NES.

WHERE ARE THEY NOW?
Primarily a contract developer for Japanese companies, most recent endeavors consist of 3DS games. They even made a game based on Powerpuff Girls Z for the DS, and the music sounds like it came straight from an SNES game. Good old MIDI soundfont.

>>2212156
>still making those crazy yet well written Metal Gear games
>The majority of MGS4
>Peace Walker

>>2212170
>>2212180
>edginess has caused quantum tunneling

>total vacuum collapse imminent

>>2212172

>>2212172
>>2212185

Anything a person or persons creates is considered art. If you can't understand that you don't belong on this board.

>>2212090

There's this one longplay of Drowned God on YT and I think like a third of the videos has one commenter complaining about the various historical inaccuracies of the game. This is usually the sole comment on each one.

>>2212183
Do you have any actual counter other than >le epic buzzwords you buffoon?

>>2212084

PERSON:
Paul Reiche III, director of the Star Control series and founder of SC's development company, Toys for Bob

WHERE IS HE NOW?
Still the CEO of Toys for Bob. While they have not made a full sequel to Star Control since the third game and has since lost the rights to Atari and later Stardock, they have made a huge hit with the development of the Skylanders Series.

Stardock is rumored to be making a reboot of Star Control.

>>2212190
>video games
>art

PERSON:
Rika Suzuki, founding member of Riverhill Soft back in the early-1980s, who soon produced quality adventure games for PC users. Later went on to do writing/lead design at CING, which is a more well-known phase of her life.

WHERE IS SHE NOW:
Writes digital stories for sale at Bellwood Inc. Her J.B. Harold and Ryunosuke Todo games are currently in circulation through Althi's digital distribution efforts.

I can do this with other Japanese PC individuals too.

>>2212198
They are art whether you think so or not. Do you even know what art means?

>>2212213
You obviously don't

>>2212213
To worship someone who actively despises you!

>>2212197
Other fun fact: The co creator of Star Control, Fred Ford, still works with Paul as his lead programmer. They have been working together at Toys for Bob for over 25 years now.

It's nice they are still being successful with Skylanders, but I do hope they make their own games with the money they managed to get from that franchise. It'd be nice to get a game that really lets them flex their muscles as designers and storytellers.

Their first major licensed game was also a game commissioned by Bandai: A fighting game/RPG that served as a crossover game with many classic magical girls.

This was unique in that it is one of the only examples of a japanese publisher using a western company to develop a video game that would only be released in japan. At the time, Toys for Bob had a very strong reputation as a game company that specialized in action RPGs.

>>2212185
still awaiting your argument, if there is any.

>>2212218
Wow, watch out for all those edges, you might get cut!

>>2212217

Why, why aren't they art? I've said it before, anything created by someone is considered art. It seems you're an exclusionary, arrogant prick or a shit posting troll. In either case, grow up.

>>2212224
Get a life, troll

>>2212227

did you reply to the wrong post? I'm asking the elitist troll what's so bad about considering video games art, and holding up LOTR as a classic. he still hasn't backed up his condescension with any real points.

I'm not the one trolling.

>>2212084

Is this a Sega thread?..

>>2212231
Sorry, clicked on the wrong one. It was meant for that asshat.

>>2212090
Please tell me he drowned himself.

>>2212242
Nope, after stabbing his wife over thirty times he stabbed himself.

PERSON:
Kure Eiji (on left), former teacher-cum-programmer who, after making games for magazines and Henk Rogers's BPS company, formed Kure Software Workshop to create influential pre-modern/modern RTSes like Silver Ghost and First Queen: The New World.

WHERE IS HE NOW:
Has suffered and survived cancer; ports Falcom games to PSP in-between self-study and inching closer to a new game release, who knows when; you can buy his games on Japanese digital distribution sites (EGG, Rakuten, DMM, &c.), though not even the SFC port of First Queen's received attention from translator groups.

>>2212243
That's not nearly as fun as if he'd drowned himself. On another note, this drowned god game looks pretty neato.

>>2212249
There's nothing funny about murder-suicide, except if they were hooked up to a Rube Goldberg-type machine with like balloons and pie launchers and dominoes. Like that episode of Futurama where the Professor wanted Zoidberg to kill him.

I had an internship a few years ago with a guy in his 40s who worked on Ultima Online.

>>2212268
Apparently one of the dudes who had a large part in making the Ultima series now has a furry game.

PERSON: Kenji Eno, a game designer who directed games for the NES, 3DO, Saturn and Dreamcast. Developed a game designed for blind people, and a series of games starring the same virtual actress in different roles. Pissed off Sony by jumping on Jumping Flash and befriended some of the greatest Japanese game developers.

WHERE IS HE NOW: Died 2 years ago. Rest in peace you crazy motherfucker.

>>2212276
Ok, I'm drawing a blank. Who?

>>2212298
Had to re-google it. I originally found out while wiki-wandering on old games, and searching 'furry game creator' doesn't exactly result in things man was meant to see.

http://www.mobygames.com/developer/sheet/view/developerId,491/

Wiki says he looks like pic related now. Wiki also says his game is the longest running 'social' mmorpg, whatever that's worth.

>>2212305

That guy sometimes pops on John Romero's twitch channel's chat. They used to be coworkers, before Romero joined Softdisk.

>>2212289
>Snuck in a cannibalism scene that wouldn't have made it into the final game had it been reviewed by the ratings board by giving them a censored copy. Delayed the game intentionally because he knew the penalty for not being done by the deadline would be to hand deliver the master-copy of the game that would be used for printing. Proceeded to personally replace the censored copies with the originally intended one by hand, literally on the plane as they were to be delivered.

>Was so infuriated Sony cut the production numbers of D that he presented a video that announced his next game would be for sega saturn..during a Sony press conference.

>Offered a special edition of Enemy zero limited to less than two dozen copies copies, at a cost of $2,000. Personally delivered each one to the customer by driving his truck .

>Would constantly leave the game industry despite upswings and gaining popularity, just because he feared stagnating and didn't want to do anything he felt was subpar.

Dude was a ballsy motherfucker. Considering how much we're told about the rigid social mores of Japan, it's amazing just how much he managed to accomplish.

I have an old version of Counter-Strike on a disk (0.7). There are some cut maps with credits in the motd.

Where the fuck are the people that made these maps?

cs_arabstreets: Paramedic 911 (jason911@home.com)

as_highrise: MattS aka [BA]Pantera (pantera@hushmail.com)

de_vegas: +Cadaver+ (cadaver@planethalflife.com

>>2212305
We're talking about Furcadia here, aren't we?

Well... at least it's successful.

>>2212432
Yeah, that's the one.
>Successful
I'd laugh but then I'd start crying. Him and his fuck puppet can't run things for shit.

PERSON: Kurt Kistler, the actor who played Steve in Harvester, is a registered sex offender because he got caught with child pornography. You're such a Kid{spoiler]dl[/spoiler]er Steve.

Where is he now?
Apparently since 2009 he's been doing really shitty movies no one will ever hear of.

>>2212249

It's one of few games I would describe as literally insane actually. If you played it Mr. Horne's end would probably come as less of a surprise.

>>2212380
>>Offered a special edition of Enemy zero limited to less than two dozen copies copies, at a cost of $2,000. Personally delivered each one to the customer by driving his truck .

He would have been right at home with the Kickstarter scene.

>>2212190
>Anything a person or persons creates is considered art.
Then art doesn't mean anything, and there's no reason to call anything art.

>>2212198
You seem to be on the wrong board.

>>2212874
nobody ever saw this one coming.

PERSON:
Akira Yasuda, aka Akiman. Long-time Capcom artist. Best known for character design in Final Fight, Street Fighter, and Darkstalkers.

WHERE IS HE NOW:
Freelance artist who has worked on many projects including Turn A Gundam, Overman King Gainer, and Gundam Reconguista in G.

>>2212874
on a side note, what are some other literally insane games?

apparently these guys have been active over the years making a few games but I haven't played any of them. It sucks that we'll probably never get Starsiege 2, that series is one of my all time favorites.

>>2212883
>Then art doesn't mean anything, and there's no reason to call anything art.

Finally anon you know the truth too, do you remember warhol, schifani and manzoni ?
They tried to explain that art doesn't need to have any sense or meaning, it's art, you watch\experience it and you are free to draw your own conclusions.

>>2212190
>Anything a person or persons creates is considered art.

While there is no universally accepted definition or art, there is no widely accepted consensus that every thing created by a person is art.

There are many who will argue that anything can be art, but does not mean everything is art. Duchamp, for example, took a urinal and presented as a work of art, but in doing so he expressed a view he sent a message, he provoked a reaction, and he challenged peoples preconceptions. He took a mass produced object and made it into art simply by saying it's art. But an identical urinal down your local pub isn't art, just a urinal. At least according to some, others would say Duchamps Fountain isn't art, just a urinal. As I say there is no universally accepted definition of art.

So yeah, if "anything a person or persons creates" is your definition of art then far be it from me to challenge it. But you should state it's your opinion, not present it as objective fact, and you certainly shouldn't belittle people who don't share you minority view on what is an entirely subjective issue.

Who the fuck cares if video games are art. Holy shit.

Art is subjective anyways, so I could say something like "The shit I took this morning is art" and it would be true.

>>2212090

>>2213049
No, it wouldn't. That's a horrible example.

>>2213058
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artist%27s_Shit

>>2213058
It could be performance art if done live in front of an audience. I picture a sax player going crazy in the background while he is taking a dump and a naked woman covered in blood reciting the book of revelation.

>>2212084
>Where are they now?
>Games you can't remember the names of

These are the eternal /vr/ questions

>>2212197
>Skylanders Series
>This sounds familiar what are you talk-

No. Fucking. Way. Toys for Bob made THE Spyro Skylanders toygame?

>>2212974

http://www.debate.org/opinions/is-art-everything

>60%

>minority

>>2213341
>debate.org
>sample size of 10

Well this seems liek a fair representation of both the art world and society as a whole.

Bump

Too bad this thread got ruined by artfags.

COMPANY:
Game Freak, made Pulseman, Pokemon, and Yoshi's Cookie, among others.

WHERE ARE THEY NOW?
Ever since making a deal with Nintendo over Pokemon's second generation they've only been focused on it, with Nintendo having a large stake in the company. Only one non-Pokemon game has been released and that was Drill Dozer for the GBA.

Frédéric Raynal.
Among other things he created the first Alone In The Dark. This game created survival horror as we knew it during the 90's and first half of the 00's. It was also the first game to use 3D models with 2D pre-rendered backgrounds, a technic which influenced the entire industry for more than a decade (not just survival horror, think of games like FF7,8,9 which used it, etc).

Last I heard of him a few years ago he was a publisher for Ubisoft and worked on big casual dances games.

>>2212289
>>2212380
The last (non iphone) game he did was a quite original puzzle game for Wiiware called You, Me, and the Cubes

>>2214814
They made Drill Dozer ?
That game is RAD TO THE MAX !

>>2214814

Harmoknight though.

PERSON
Ken and Roberta Williams from Sierra. They are the heads behind King's Quest series and many other games.

WHERE ARE THEY NOW?
They own a boat and are currently sailing somewhere...

And stop with this art bullshit!

>>2214909
Forgot the pic

Artsy fartsy!

>>2212935
I guess LSD Dream Emulator and Garage.

They're pretentious "Mindscape" games that make people try to think.

>>2214814
>Satoshi Tajiri is autistic, created Pokemon after a childhood obsession with bug collecting.

PERSON
David Crane. creator of Pitfall!, A Boy and his Blob, and arguably the best Ghostbusters game ever. Undisputed god of platformers before Miyamoto came along.

WHERE ARE THEY NOW?
He creates casual sports/card games for iPhone now.

>>2212883

What? Yes art means something. It's the product of creative input. You call things art because they're art and you can identify them. It's not a fucking value judgment.

"Hurr, if any game you play on a computer is a computer game, then computer game doesn't mean anythig! Why call anything computer games?"

"Durr, if any food item that features ingredients held between two pieces of bread is a sandwich, then everything is a sandwich and doesn't mean anything! Why call anything a sandwich?"

>>2213069
>at the time the piece was created

>>2214821
nope, he has been freelance for some time, mostly doing consulting. He created a new dev studio last year and set up a new game called 2Dark.
http://fr.ulule.com/2dark/