/vr/ - Retro Games

>>2207438
mostly nostalgia
also because it's really comfy in my hands and the dpad is stellar.

i've never liked the saturn pad which always gets tons of love.

wiiu pro controller is my number 2

>>2207438
>pic unrelated
If I saw off the leftmost third, will the controller still function? Sick of the dead weight

>>2207438

Most Comfortable Controller Ever Made

>>2207448
not /vr/

i had one of these bad boys. not necessarily the comfiest controller, but that added to the rawness.

>>2207438

If the thumbpad didn't feel like it had felt on it

It's a fucking rectangle and you never once as a kid complained about it

It just works even today

>>2207438

Since it's now retro

Also needs to be fucking lighter

>>2207451
I got many hand cramps from that thing.

I'm going with this (the very first one) because it has all the benefits of the Snes controller but with comfy as fuck handles,I cant really find any fault with it

>>2207451
Oh shit, it's true. We would play for hours with that thing and nobody bitched, not once.

>>2207456
>Since it's now retro

Try again anon

Two Dualshock pads for everything on my emulation rig. I like the grey ones slightly better than the white ones from PS One, because they are a bit heavier. Perfect for PS/PS2 emulation.
The analogue sticks are great for games like Super HangOn on MAME. For paddle games and lightgun games I use the mouse.

>>2207457

I think the cramps you had were probably in your uterus

>>2207451
It's a boss controller,bit small and fiddly though,the famicom controller has curved edges but the fucking cord comes out the left side

>>2207456
>>2207456
>>2207467
>>2207448
>>2207463

Just noticed
Samefag

>>2207489
All correct except the last one which is me,we appear to have some cancer namefag from /v/

>>2207489
>Just Happened Sex Story
probably came from /b/

funny stuff.

>>2207493

Sorry didn't mean to group you in with a samefag

My apologies

>>2207438

What no Dreamcast fans? the vmu was lightyears ahead of its time

>>2207523
i love the dreamcast, a lot.

buy why they didn't put a second analog on that controller blows my mind..

>>2207523
Vmu does not really add much neither does it make the controller that much better ,it's a very good controller but it feels a bit cheap,the analogue stick is slippy as fuck and the dpad is a bit shit,I'm still mad that shenmue forces you to use the dpad my thumb was killing me throughout the game

Why do I have to pick 1?

>>2207679

I like that you have the nights controller

>>2207685
I prefer it over the model 1 and 2 controllers honestly. Like a Dreamcast controller but with a really nice d pad.

>>2207679
That kind of button organization is so fucked up, it's impractical to press 2 and only 2 buttons at the same time unless they're those from the last row.

>>2207724
That's poor game design more than poor controller design.

>>2207679
>analog stick has 4 hall-effect sensors instead of pots
>never wears out

>>2207731
Don't even try anon.
That's poor controller design. Do you blame fighting game for being hard to play on a Xbox d-pad?

>>2207747
>Do you blame fighting game for being hard to play on a Xbox d-pad?
If they were developed and initially released on an Xbox, yes.

>>2207460
PS controllers have that kooky dpad.

>>2207460

add some analog sticks and we've got a winner. I suppose I'd pick the original dual shock, just because rumble > no rumble

>>2207746
Well they do wear. It'll take a ling time though. The stick is on a pivot. I lube mine.
>>2207747
The xbox dpad is trash. How about the PlayStation controller? Not exactly comfortable to hit buttons across from each other.

Fuck off back to /v/ with your SEGA shitposts.

>>2207746
that pic is fucking funny

>>2207750
So if a company make a shitty controller, and you try to develop a game for it, but it's hard to play because of the bad controller, it's your fault?
Makes sense.

>>2207731
>That's poor game design more than poor controller design.

Good game designs often happen because they directly get tailored to the hardware in question, including the controller.

Check the controller scheme in Radiant Silvergun for example. Shitload of weapons, all available in multiple ways, each way more comfy than the other. It works completely shit on a ABXY button scheme however - and that isn't because the game is poorly designed, but because it was designed for other hardware.

A 2x2 face button plus 2x2 shifts setup is more useful because you can press more buttons simultaneously (try doing a spinning lariat with Zangief on the Saturn pad with your thumb only - you could only do that if you remapped the buttons so XAB are kicks and YZC are punches), and who had ever done that?
2x3 design is way more comfy for a lot of games designed for it though. Including nearly all fighting games that used the Capcom layout, even with the problem for PPP/KKK moves.

>>2207757
What the hell is wrong with you?

There's a feeling of accomplishment when you successfully condense an SNES or playstation button layout into the wiimote.
I played through the entirety of Spyro 1 with this baby.
Being able to play Legaia, and Lunar and shit 1 handed is satisfying too.

>>2207763
Yes. One of the primary benefits of consoles, especially old ones, is that they had standardized controllers. You knew exactly what the user would be playing on. Compare this to the home computers where everyone had a different horrid stick that was its own unique brand of retarded.

>>2207764
If a game doesn't work well with the controller it's poorly designed. May had been well designed on the home console but thew port console it's poorly designed.

4 button and 6 button have their pros and cons. When you add in triggers they are pretty equal. The only thing that changes it up really is when you throw in sticks. 1 stick and 6 buttons works better than 1 stick and 4 buttons. 2 stick and 4 buttons works better than 2 sticks and 6 buttons. Of course that involves the use of triggers too.
>>2207768
Why are you still here?

>>2207753
This, original dualshock was great. The buttons felt good, it had a very nice dpad, the analog sticks had that grip shit on them so they felt nice too. The controller just made sense, perfectly logical. Also had a nice weight to it, controllers without analog sticks are way too light and flimsy feeling

>>2207778
Fuck reading, am I right?
It wasn't about 6 buttons, it was about their disposition, making it hard to press them together.
Hell, the N64 had 6 buttons and it was easy to press then.

>>2207773
But the buttons are hard to press.
You're saying that a button hard to press is bad game design. And I'm not even asking you to press A then B while holding Y like in Mega Man X, that's kinda bad design, I'm asking you to press X and A.

>>2207789
Wait. First you said
>it's impractical to press 2 and only 2 buttons at the same time unless they're those from the last row.
To now saying the N64 is a model of how to make a 6 button controller?

I don't think you've held any of these controllers Talking out your ass if you think you can hit the C buttons and the A or B at the same time. Not to mention what game made you hold 2 C buttons?

>>2207809
Goddammit, I said that I was not even asking you to press 3 buttons, I'm asking you to press only 2.
You could press A and B on the N64 controller, couldn't you?
On that Microsoft controller you would often hit the B button while trying to press X and A, that was the only thing I complained about.

>>2207828
I'm not the guy you are arguing with but if a game wants you to hit the bottom row of buttons paired with the top that is very bad game design,nothing like that happens on the Saturn and using a pc gamepad seems like a bad example since all the buttons can be mapped.

>>2207828
Hitting 2 C buttons or A + C is 3 buttons? Now you're talking about xbox for some reason. Didn't answer my question either...

>>2207834
What are even talking about?
>I'm not even asking you to press A then B while holding Y
What's so hard to understand here? That's irrelevant. I don't care. "I'm not even asking you to".
The problem is that you can't even press A and X together.

>>2207849
I have no idea who you're quoting with the greentext and I have no idea where the "X" button is on a N64 controller.

>>2207851
Can you use Ctrl+F?
The quote's from this >>2207798 post.
And I'm obviously talking about the Snes controller, you know, the console that have Mega Man X, as the example.

And for the last time, I never said anything about pressing any damn C button.

>>2207864
>And for the last time, I never said anything about pressing any damn C button.
>Hell, the N64 had 6 buttons and it was easy to press then.

>>2207876
And do you bump your finger on the C button while pressing A and B?

>>2207881
You are really special.

>>2207887
That must be why EVERYONE gave up of that controller layout. Because I'm special.

>>2207724
I can't keep track of who's who anymore but this dude is right. The Genesis-style 3-in-a-row setup is not so good compared to using three buttons out of a 4-button square shape.

The PS3 pad is the best and most versatile imo, I'm cool with the divided pad, even

It's hard to get nostalgic about most old controllers. On this one count, the good old days were really not that great.

>>2207896
Can you go back to basics and explain what you are talking about? From what I can gather you don't like the 6 button sega Saturn style button layout but I don't get what you are talking about with the n64

Good build quality combined with a whole bunch of features and high compatibility with both games and systems.

>>2207923
The N64 didn't screwed with the layout, it have 6 buttons but none of them get in your way when you're trying to press the two main buttons.

>>2207912
It's diamond shape. This prototype shows better how the button disposition should be, with a 45º angle, not almost 90º. I never complained about it being 4 or 6.

>>2207940
Ok but the C buttons were only meant as camera buttons ,what is your point?

And the picture you just posted is exactly the same as a normal Snes controller but with a different order on the letters

>>2207938
Good if you are left handed with 1 finger

>>2207949
>Ok but the C buttons were only meant as camera buttons
No? Did you ever played Zelda?
The controller was only to indicate the angle, so yeah, the same of the Snes.

>>2207978
They were designed to control the camera hence why they are labelled C,of course some games used them for other things,Since you are not a native English speaker it's clear why you are failing to get your point across

>>2207993
They could be used to whatever devs wanted, quick menu was great for them.

>>2207997
Yes but the original intention was for them to be used as camera buttons ,this is common knowledge

>>2207997
>They could be used to whatever devs wanted
Like bad game design. Luckily I don't think any N64 game ever wanted you to hit 2 C buttons at once.

>>2208015
Nor A and B, am I right?

>>2208024
So is there a problem with pressing a+b together now? Just wtf are you on about

>>2208024
What is your point? To shitpost?

>>2208036
What's your point?
Why do you even want to point out?

>>2208046
What*

>>2208046
Idk. You seem like you just wanted to shitpost about the SEGA controllers. Guess you achieved that.

>>2208057
>I don't even know what's my point I just want to antagonize you
>Lol, you're shitposting

>>2208061
You never made your point clear bud ,something about you can't press buttons because other buttons get in the way ,never heard anyone else say that and just when we are beginning to understand what you mean you talk some bullshit about the n64 A+B buttons,you didn't even know that the C buttons were designed to control the camera

>>2208061
More greentext. Like I said. Good shitposting.

>>2208024
>Nor A and B, am I right?
F-Zero X. Press A to accelerate and B to Boost while accelerating.

>>2208069
I said bullshit about A + B? The point is that there's no problem with A + B. Goddamn sarcasm is hard.

>>2208078
Ok so what button layout does create a problem then? Help me to help you

>>2208081
Those? >>2207724

>>2208092
you must have fat and clumsy fingers if you can't press the xyz buttons without pressing the abc buttons ,I've never heard of anyone ever complaining about that

>>2208105
It's not about pressing XYZ without pressing ABC, it's about pressing X and A without hitting the B. Or Y and B without hitting C.
Yes it's possible. No, it isn't comfortable.
I don't think I ever had to repeat myself so many times.

'

So many young console fags here.

Try a real controller!

its so good

>>2208571
You're kind o m>>2208648
Totally forgot about the advantage

You sir are correct

>>2207438

QUESTION:
what is your favorite, or what is the most recommended, brand of USB N64 controller? I'm looking to start some Mario 64 rom hacks, and I want to use the controller that game was used for. And yeah I know you can get usb to controller ports, but I'd rather buy a shitty plastic piece of garbage. Any recommendations for best kind?

6 button Genesis controller. Has all the greatness of the SNES controller but the two extra buttons add great functionality for fighters.

>>2208606

Where do you get these for a decent price these days? Looking for one for my C64.

I could play kangaroo on my 2600 all day with this

>>2210940
>fighters
All 1 of them.

>>2210940
I like how it's slightly smaller than the saturn but I still wish it had two shoulder buttons as well.

>>2207940
I really wish they would have went with that button layout.

>>2210931
Honestly don't bother with getting a usb 64 controller. They are garbage, and usually have the dpad and the stick mapped to the same axis.

Get a converter and a decent original controller. You won't be sorry.

>>2211025

so even among all the shit there's not one C+ student? i'd really rather have something i couldn't give two shits about, rather than using one of my own controllers or getting one online, though i guess the latter is always an option.

>>2207438
I wonder if the beta ultra64 controller was better. I definitely looks more comfy.

>>2207438
I wonder if the beta ultra64 controller was better. It definitely looks more comfy.

PSX, because the d-pad is comfortable and precise.

this is the way I held the n64 controller. I had long fingers, and since my thumb had to stretch to the stick, it gave me finer movement precisions instead of it sitting right on top of the stick.

>>2211365

>>2211365
>>2211370
Do you have downs?

>>2211365
I don't get it that's really retarded,the left side of the controller is pretty much useless why dont you stop being a special snowflake and hold it properly

>>2211325
those buttons look satisfying as fuck to press.

>>2207993
C stands for Control

>>2211394
He grew up with Sony controllers probably.

Not retro but the wii mote nunchuck combo is da kill

>>2211414
Yeah camera control

>>2211325
>proper analog instead of that stupid square crap
>buttons are thicker and probably feel better to press
>neat little LED light at the top

Wtf happened?

>>2211424
>proper analog instead of that stupid square crap
What?
>buttons are thicker and probably feel better to press
If you think thicker buttons are better all you have to do is hold a Dreamcast d pad to realize you're wrong.
>Wtf happened?
They made the controller more ergonomic. Flashy lights and shit looks like crap.

>>2211430
See the border around the prototype stick? It's a full circle, allowing for full 360 degree movement.

In the final there's a square around the stick, and while it's TECHNICALLY analog, it's going to get caught on the corners. So instead of smooth movement you get clickety-clack.

>>2211437
>In the final there's a square around the stick
Again what the fuck are you talking about? Are you too young to have used a N64 controller?

>>2211447
I don't think he knows that it wasn't a square, probably is looking at pictures without an idea of what he's saying.

>>2211461
Well with the amount of shit posting against Nintendo and SEGA lately I wouldn't be surprised.

I love this motherfucker. I'll never go back to gamepads. Truly it's the way it was meant to be played.

>>2211447
You must be very stupid .heres an example take the GameCube analog stick and compare it to the dual shock one ,the GC one has a plastic restrictor forcing you into 8 possible directions,same with the n64 one but on that prototype picture it appears to have unrestricted analog control

>>2211461
I'm not the guy you are talking about but look at the picture above of the prototype controllers ,the Middle one seems to have a 4 way restrictor aka a square hole

>>2211473
Oh god you haven't had a gamecube controller either. You talk about absolutes even though it doesn't actually behave like that.

>>2207451
I loved the rectangle but once I converted to dogbone there was no going back

>>2211475
Tha'ts a prototype. Not a N64 controller.
>>2211473
The gamecube and N64 do not have a square gate. They're octagons.

Is /vr/ really to the point were people don't even know what a N64 controller is? Damn...

>>2211475
That's what I mean by reading off pictures.

>>2211478
Had a GC since launch day,of course it doesn't actually create a problem i just used that as an example of what the guy was talking about since you seemed to be clueless.

>>2211480
>Tha'ts a prototype. Not a N64 controller

What is your point? some guy just made a comment pointing out the differences and nobody had a clue what he was talking about even though i can see it clear as day.

>The gamecube and N64 do not have a square gate. They're octagons.

I never said they have a square gate,however if you look at the picture of the 3 controllers the middle one is actually square,thats what anon pointed out and then you came and sperged out over the fact that a real n64 controller doesn't have that.

>Is /vr/ really to the point were people don't even know what a N64 controller is? Damn...

I got about 15 of the fuckers under my bed

>>2207447
Play something other than Merio/Zelda. It gets plenty use.

>>2211501
Oh hey >>2211473
Just relax. We know what you were talking about, it was just really exaggerated since it affects nothing.

>>2211501
>I never said they have a square gate
Right...
>In the final there's a square around the stick
>proper analog instead of that stupid square crap

Get back to your containment board..

>>2211506
You are arguing with 2 different people dumbass.

>>2211424
>>2211437

This guy aint me,but i can understand exactly what he was talking about he just made a small mistake by saying that the final version has a square around the stick when he meant the octagonal shape.

You are the one that is so utterly stupid you didn't know what he was talking about,and then went full on autistic about how the final controller didn't have a square gate.

>>2211510
You need stop.
You don't have a clue about a N64 controller. Now going on to say "oh that wasn't me".

Funny how only you know what the guy was trying to say.

Didn't mean to start a shitstorm. I just feel like a larger analog pad would be more comfortable, but the functionality looks the same. Also the buttons look more like a true 6-button pad for fighters.

The actual reason Nintendo redesigned the analog stick on the n64 is so moving in a straight line and platforming in Mario64 would be easier.

>>2211394
>>2211373
Thats how I learned to hold it when I got my N64 in 1998. left hand like that, right hand like this. I still was able to beat Facility on 00 Agent so i dont know why you think I'm doing it wrong.

>>2211517
All you have done is expose your own stupidity and lack of reading comprehension and now you are clutching at straws trying to win the argument even though you've got nothing on me.

>>2211537
Man both these totally separate people sure do like to call others "stupid".

>>2211528
My cousin played like this. It isn't the weirdest I've seen.

Weirdest is holding with the right hand, tucking the pinkie under for the z button. Then with the left hand holding the joystick with thumb, index and middle finger. I was so repulsed by this method that I got beaten at Goldeneye.

I'd take a pic to fully show the weird but I'm not away from my n64 atm.

>>2211521
I wish you had posted this image sooner,but i knew what you were talking about anyway.

I think the octagonal shape is probably best,i can only wonder wtf they were thinking with the 4 way version.

>>2211552
absolutely disgusting

>>2207438

>>2211517
>>2211541
Hey retard, original square border poster here, that's not me. Because I'm not the only one who can see you're a fucking idiot.

so god damn comfy

>>2211593
I never understood putting the Dpad in the center like that.

>>2211638
This thing doesn't look comfy at all, but when I actually used it I really liked it.

>>2207438
<CTRL+F>...

No madcatz.

The ignorance or perhaps narrow mindedness is bizarre.

>>2211625
Still going.

>>2211675
How long are you going to live in your little fantasy world? Next you'll say this pic is photoshopped. Maybe you need professional help.

>>2211674
Are you saying you actually like madcatz controllers?...

Why is there no NGC controller in this thread. There will never be one more comfortable controller for me.

>>2211706
For 3D games there will never be a better controller. But for 2D games it's awful.

>>2211706
Because it's not retro but yeah it is pretty much the most comfortable controller to hold

>>2211674

>>2211706
>>2211710
>>2211714

You all are on crack, this was the worst first-party controller ever made, including the Jaguar.

>>2208606
was great with spring but shit with rubber

>>2211710
You think? I never felt that way.

>>2211714
Since people were posting the Wii motion..
For old controlers i think i would choose the DC one. But in regard of ergonomics i think nobody makes better controllers than nintendo since the N64. I always got cramps from the Playstations controllers, i never got why they didn't changed the form earlier. But maybe it's just me.

>>2211724
People with big hands tend to dislike the NGC controller. I guess it's different for everybody.

>>2211640
its extremely small, so it manages to work well

>>2211724
I never said it was good just comfortable ,it has some serious flaws like the unbelievably shit dpad ,cstick is kinda shit ,triggers are a bit clumsy ,z button seems oddly placed but it was still a great controller it just sucked with some games ,it's not a very universal controller like the dual shock

>>2211724
>including the Jaguar

I know this is your opinion, but it's objectively false. Seriously, the Jaguar controller is a fucking joke.

>>2211726
Full disclosure: my hands were big enough for using the Xbox Duke comfortably.

That said it's difficult to defend the absolutely retarded button scheme the gc has going on here.

>>2211731
Speaking of the Dual Shock, I feel that it's grossly overrated. It feels flimsy as fuck, the parallel stick placement is uncomfortable, the shoulder buttons are too similar and not at all ergonomic, and I don't like the disconnected d-pad because I can't put my thumb in the middle and "roll" it to different parts of the cross which makes it tough to do diagonals.

>>2211737
I liked it because somehow it was faster to memorize because every button felt different. But as >>2211731 said, it really needed a button scheme fitting for it.

Also, i always had problems reaching all the buttons comfortable on the Xbox thing. Didn't they even bring out a smaller version for japan back then?

>>2211479
am i the only one who HATES the dogbone controller? how did the fuck up the A B button layout so badly? why wasn't it like pic related??

>>2211737
>absolutely retarded button scheme

How so? Are you sure you aren't just saying that because you are more used to a "cross" layout of action buttons on the right? Because I actually like that the buttons were of different sizes and arranged to "orbit" the larger A button in the middle. It allowed you to rest your thumb on the central button (A) and then move to and press the surrounding buttons as needed. I actually found it more comfortable than the traditional cross shaped layout, and the shoulder buttons were comfy as fuck.

This thing! Best controller ever.

You people's little issues with your extremely similar controllers seem rather mundane and pedestrian compared to the radical elegance of this monstrosity!

Buwahaha!

>>2211751
On the SNES controller, that's how B and A are laid out. Even though on that, B is for jumping and Y attacks.

Xbox360 is my fav controller. XboxOne I believe has a better D-pad but weirder shoulder buttons, but I haven't played one long enough to stand by my statements.

From a nostalgia perspective, the Saturn 3D pad is tops. Going back it now, it isn't quite so nice, but it was my favorite until the XBox came along.

But from a REALLY nostalgic view, a real golden oldie was my Epyx 500 that I used on my Amiga. Most reactive joystick I ever used. On the flat side where the brand name is, I installed a red toggle and a red variable autofire knob. I followed a circuit board schematic I found in a computer mag and soldered it all together with parts from Radio Shack. I did all that work when I was in jr high, back when kids were men, and men were Rambo.

>>2211715
What does that even refer to? All I've ever seen that reminds me of it is this...

>>2211726
so lewd.

>>2211715
>>2211771
or perhaps this.

>>2211767
Those joysticks were actually good because of the micro switched joystick ,I had one just like that but it had a handle like a gun

>>2207438
>Just Happened Sex Story
Good job, OP. Anyway,

My favourite is the Mega Drive one. I used to hold it like this (pic). The PlayStation controller and its shitty descendants are still abominable to me because of the ridiculous horns that make my grip extremely uncomfortable - and I just ain't satisfied with having just one finger for more than one fucking button. How the fuck do you people play like that? It's a fucking torture to run and jump with only your thumb. It's possible, but just isn't fun.

I know that not many people play like this, but I know I'm not the only one who does this either (right?).

>>2211762
right, and I think the B and A buttons on the dogbone should be laid out like the Y and B buttons on the SNES controller. that's just a lot more comfortable to have your thumb on B and you would just roll your thumb down a tiny bit to jump without taking it off B

Dreamcast controller is the strangest and the comfiest I think, and together with VMU it's fantastic. If only it had a second analog stick.

>>2211004
I love the duke. It's like a couch for my big man hands.

>>2211638
I like it, but the stick is kinda awkward me being used to sticks having more leverage on top of a stick + it stops way earlier than you'd think based on the visual feedback.

>>2211771
>>2211775

>>2211694
Well, I can't say I've had the fortune of owning many madcatz controllers, but the one I've had was amazing. But I wish I've had another three very similar to it, why, I wish that I had a dreamcast, and that the dreamcast had lasted much longer just in hopes that the dreamcast version of that controller would have far more usability!

We were also very upset that madcatz failed to release the successor to that awesome controller.

>>2211782
Loss of 2 buttons killed it for me. Otherwise, it would have been a step up from the Saturn 3D pad.

>>2211724
>this was the worst first-party controller ever made,
So why has the company been manufacturing it for a solid 3 generations now? You can't buy new Xbox 1 or PS2 controllers.

You guys are street behind.

>inb4 it's not retro
>this came out in 1999

>>2211849
wtf is that vomit?

>>2211854
A game pod from the movie eXistenZ.

Why third party controllers are more expensive than first party now? I remember they being popular because they were cheap.

>>2211861
Because to be hipster you need to be unique. Different mindset of the kids this generation is all.

The ones I see anyway seem to be a standard controller but a different colored shell.

>>2211861
because, dummshit PCfags are loyal to they're "traditional" brands. fucking sheep!

good controller for street fighter/tekken

>>2211819
Because, it's like microsoft's forced incompatibilities, the type in the "embrace, extend and extinguish" paradigm. Some things are just required to fit together with something else. Otherwise, there tends to be commoditization and interchanagability. What's so special about xbox1 or PS2 controllers that their newer brethren don't duplicate?

>>2211751
The gameboy does it that way too.

>>2211861
Because nowadays they come with all sorts of gimmicks and extras.

>this thing is $300, phone or tablet not included

>>2207438
Saturn. Shit's comfy and has a godly d-pad. L/R buttons suck though.
of course, the only thing I can use it on is my Saturn or my PC with a converter box

>>2211916
I got one of those. Can't stand the thing (nothing like doing a DP and getting HCB,f -- fuck that d-pad), so usually use a PS1 controller to play Street Fighter or KOF. Would be nice otherwise.

>>2211916

Bought two of these back when they came out. Completely destroyed both D-Pads within a year.

>>2207438
I purchased a hori mini for the n64, never turned back to the original abomination

>>2212109
Reminds me this

Can't go wrong with this if you're a 2Dfag like me.

>>2212332
I bought a used one on Ebay for $75 from Japan and I love it! Yes it's expensive, but that controller will last for life, unlike the original N64 controller and it's fragile analog stick.

I decided to get one recently, because they're becoming more and more rare and expensive all the time! Someday you won't be able to find a working original N64 controller and the only controllers that don't suck and will survive time is the Hori!

Get'em while you still can.... and for under $100. :)

>>2212338
lol why the fuck would you need this?

>>2212356
what are ya, stupid or something?

>>2212340
Nigger that's a Genesis controller.

>>2212356
To have precise control
To have tactile feedback
To have access to more buttons
To not get your fingers covering almost half of the screen

That said I almost never touch phone games.

>>2212364
OH I didnt understand it was for a phone. I just thought it was a pc controller that extended in the middle like an accordion for no reason. lol.

>>2212368
You're slow, anon.

>>2211861
not retro but
>DS3s are $50
>knockoff ones are $20

>>2211714
its almost 15yrs old, i think its about time to label it as neo retro or something.

>>2211761
They're even discontinuing basic, plain old trackballs!

So sad.

>>2207438
this was awesome for FPS games back in the day

>>2212423
Now now, the controller itself doesn't have to be decried as anti-retro, you may just have to be open minded about what it's useful for, beside what it fits...

>>2212363
No, that's definitely a Saturn controller. Mega Drive didn't have shoulder buttons, which are clearly viable through the translucent case.

>>2213719
Right on!

Had a lot of potential for a wide range of games too!

>>2213719

>>2213719

OPTIMIZED TO DOMINATE

>>2213712
>>2213719
Hivemind!

>>2213739
that thing was a fucking monster with UT, and QIIIA

>>2213737
no...it was for FPS and flight sims. I used it on a bunch of other games, and just could not get the hang of it.

>>2213738
>creator
>daikatana

>>2211640

I agree, it should be a bit to the left, then it'd be perfect.

>>2213738
>>2213773
I don't know if I want to take the advice of the creator of Daikatana.

>>2213773
>>2213950
The ad is from before its release.

>>2211751
This is the same reason I hate gameboys as well. Better just to emulate them with an SNES controller layout, with b being a and y being b.

>>2213954
>implying that it was a better game before it went gold
>implying that he also stopped being the creator afterwards

>>2213964
What do you mean? Of course daikatana was a better game before it went gold, and before that it was an even better game before a major taste of it was available, and an even better game before fellatio having become part of it.

>>2211640
To not "weird out" all the common people by doing anything but one straightforward adjustment to the button layout.

>>2207438
To this day I'd like to take the fucking N64 controller and shove it down the designer's throat. Utter. Fucking. Shit.

Dualshock with rumble is still my favorite - fits nicely in your hands and has some weight to it.

>>2207679
I have this NiGHTS NFR disc. I think it was a pack-in? It's in a standard sized Jewel Case.

>>2207438
Powerglove

I dig the NES pad.

Despite browing up with it I never cared for the SNES pad.