/vr/ - Retro Games

>>2175506
===NEWS===

[12-27] Refrigerator Magnets: http://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1332124

[12-26] In acknowledgement of its increasingly inaccurate date-based title, Slaughterfest 2013 has officially renamed to Slaughterfest 3. It seems to be a slow news week, or I am not looking hard enough.

[12-26] The /newstuff Chronicles #470: http://www.doomworld.com/php/topstory.php?id=4300

[12-24] Accessories to Murder "bleeding edge" version moves to Github, has dual wielding for pistols, new RL sprite and some new monster behavior: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=36877

[12-22] Strife VE 1.2 update: http://steamcommunity.com/games/317040/announcements/detail/215376355260428922

[12-22] New HDoom features http://hdoomguy.tumblr.com/post/105844089822 http://zombie-nsfw.tumblr.com/post/105843041741

[12-21] 32in24-14 single player: http://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1330738

[12-18] Threshold of Pain II Act 2: http://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1067497

[12-17] Doom Forever update: http://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1329812

[12-16] Some modern gaming news site mentions the Cacowards: http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2014/12/16/cacowards-2014-doom-awards/

[12-16] Vile Shatters update: http://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1329566

[12-15] Looper beats Doom 2 in 21:55 http://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1329250

[12-15] Shut Up And Bleed thread/download: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=47302
- DISCLAIMER: This mod has nothing to do with 4chan.

[12-14] DECK (Doom Engine Creators Kit) considers crowd-funding: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=800876#p800876

[12-13] Five Rooms Of Doom possibly final release: http://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1328772

[12-12] 1993res, "a wad-ified collection of unused doom art": http://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1328580

[12-11] Brutal Doom v20 beta release: http://www.mediafire.com/download/h49ahv6jy2go9ft/brutal20testdec10b-2014.zip

[12-10] Cacowards 11: http://www.doomworld.com/21years/

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Please reply to this post with news.

>>2175509
/newstuff Chronicles 471: http://www.doomworld.com/php/topstory.php?id=4313

OP here, first time I make the doom thread. Let me know if I did anything wrong.

>>2175515
Looks good to me

What do you guys think of Brutal Doom?
What does Mark need to improve?

>>2175534
The shotguns seem to get worse every version...

>>2175515

You completely missed all news that happened in the last week.
I hope this isn't going to become a recurring thing.

>>2175447
>The addon classes are alright and are as close as they can get to their respective vanilla counterparts.

There is not a large enough laughing image in the world to adequately respond to this.

>>2175538
>You completely missed all news that happened in the last week.

to be fair, the OP of the past two threads did too

and the one who posted the news mid-thread also missed them while he was on his bitching parade

>>2175534
his code is an utter mess, needs an over haul there , I think he should make some more alien blooded monsters to break up the amount of read, like how the Hell knights used to bleed green, why not have cyber monsters bleed black oil or something, just things to break up the palette

other then that I dunno, find a place for the belfagor in the main game? its a cool enemy

>>2175541
the fact remains. if you don't want to spend hours scouring the forums for news and updates, you don't get to make new threads. them's the breaks.

>>2175539
>no counterarguments
stop shitposting

>>2175490
>/topic. I would crop this for future reference if I could

here you go

>>2175582
Your only argument against >>2173831 has been "they're FUNN!!!!!111"

Sorry m8 your precious addons are shit and you're shit for using them

>>2175591
add >>2173831 to the image as well

>>2175591
>Dat font

Off topic, but what font do are you using, Anon?

>>2175617
dejavu sans

>>2175591
so a classic case of, why we cant have nice things

>>2175579
>post deleted
wow so leaving the news post to rot is mod-approved?

>>2175506
>Pissed-off martian
>Ayyy lmao
I always pictured any Ayyy lmao alien being a happy pothead not a hyperactive danger.

>>2175506
>tfw your picture is in the OP

I'M MOVING UP IN THE WORLD, BABY!

>>2175506
>>2175506
I hate the arch vile. He still creeps me.

>>2175695
I still don't hate the archvile as much as I hate pain elementals or crowds of revenants. They're always threat priority 1.

>>2175703
It depends on the battlefield though. I hate the archvile because hiding of him constanly gives me scares whenever I search for him again. Even the burning sound is creepy as fuck to me. Far up there with him are the lost souls.

>>2173873
Cuuuute

Also I'm working on some but now that term's back to working as well I need to stop being lazy and do them

>trailblazer is out
>"OH BOY! I can finally play these hyped slaughterwads!"
>complete scythe, move onto Going Down
>got stuck at some parts but going smoothly
>MAP19: 200 Megahurtz
>on spaceship
>12 agitated martians in cages
>beat them in this cramped space
>check map
>12/200 enemies
>"now it should be normal horde"
>see teleport
>"I swear to god, if this map is 200 archviles I will find Cyriak and bash his skull in"
>teleport
>AYYY LMAO!

>>2175703
Bullshit. Revenant missiles and lost souls can be evaded, but if you don't dispose of archvile ASAP, you willl fight an uphill battle - even if you will evade his ass-toasting hitscan magic, then he will just revive every revenant again

>>2175734
Grenade launcher just wrecks everything on that map.
So does the minigun.

It's only 100 Archviles, the other 100 is Pain Elementals

>>2175745
>the other 100 is Pain Elementals

>>2175746
Don't worry anon, the Minigun tears through them like nothing.

It was a surprisingly tolerable level.
The next one will be very easy too.

>>2175746
>>2175752
Also considering that you should have Nutcracker you can kill groups of Archviles with a shot or three.

It's really not that bad of a level, the second half has so much Minigun ammo that you can tear through everything.

>>2175746
>>2175734
lol remind me how this fucktard won a cacoward again??

what is your dream mod?

>>2175771

Not its fault you're bad at Doom.

>>2175797
let's see you effortlessly beat 100 archviles and 100 pain elementals then. pistol start, no saves.

>>2175796
God Hand combat in Doom.

>>2175156
Cubeface did really well on that Blood run. Big surprise was that he did the E1M6 (The Great Temple) trick in one go, which skips the entire level, as well as the Dam jump in E3M6 (Monster Bait). Shame on his Duke run tho.

>>2175734
I swear I've seen this post before, with the same text/picture and everything; even down to the, "lol remind me how this fucktard won a cacoward again," response.

Why anon...? Why?

>>2175827
I dont think you did anon

>>2175812
It's really not as hard as it seems. You run right for the BFG, then just keep grabbing the invuln spheres. Pain elemental part is even easier, despite not having invulnerability.

>>2175812
Gameplay mods are not always doable from pistol start.

For example, this wouldn't go much better in Demonsteel/MSX/GMOTA
It wouldn't go so good in Samsara unless you're Duke/Doomguy as well.

>>2175836
right. okay. well you didn't say there were tons of invulnerabilities, that changes everything. sorry for my earlier abrasive tone.

HD is pretty fun. I should probably redo this level without saves though.

>Suddenly remember I have PrBoom+ installed from a few months back
>Sound playback is incredibly jittery now
>mfw

Is it because I installed VirtualMIDISynth?

I guess this would be the place to post this.

If I hosted a WhoDunIt server some time Friday (between 7PM and midnight EST) would anyone here be up for it?
I'm sure I could wrangle a few people and a few randoms would show up, but the more the merrier I've found.

And on that note, does anyone else get freezing on Echo Ridge?

>>2175958
Yeah. Make the default system midi device the Windows GM Synth and/or switch from Native MIDI to GUS (Emulated) in the game options. Only way it worked jitter-free on my end. BASSMIDI did it too.

It does that to Chocolate Doom, too. Don't know why. Probs has to do with timing or something.

sure is meta in here

>>2176130
Funny thing with BASSMIDI I have on my Win7 is that if I forget -nomusic switch it starts to blast music at max in-game volume despite it being set to 0 as soon as song changes.

>>2176130
Ah well, at least the fix is easy.

I'm playing Duke 3D for the first time since I was young and I don't remember the game being so random with item drops. I can't even beat the first level on the hard difficulty because I'm running completely dry on ammo. Am I shit?

In source ports that support slopes, what are the constraints on sloped sectors?

>>2176130
How on Earth does that chair work?

>>2176147
Exact same thing happened to me a while ago. It gets better in later levels.

>>2176147
First level requires you to shoot and Mighty boot troopers at the same time.
You need to know the secrets too for any extra bit of ammo.

Build engine games like to make their ammo rare at the start then they throw too much as you go along.

>>2175812
>muh pistol start
Not every map ever made was intended to be doable from pistol start.

>>2176150
I don't think it does, which is why that person is on the floor in tears, with the screwdriver.

What mods are you hyped for?

I myself am hyped for the next version of freedoom with the new sprites.

>>2175958
>>2176130
>prboom-plus
>chocolate-doom
>jittery sound on windows

Its in issue with SDL in some system configurations. Hard to pinpoint, exactly.
I think its something to do with the audio buffer sizes in DirectSound/XAudio2.

>>2176230
What is the context of this dinosaur?

>>2176316

That would be one of the aforementioned new sprites for the Freedoom monsters.

This is going to be interesting.

>>2176340

Interesting isn't the word I'd use.

>>2176340
At first, I thought it was going to be new levels, but it's not going to be, is it?

>>2176340

Wait what the fuck I don't remember anime girls in Deus Vult.

>>2176329
call me stupid but this is the first I heard of freedoom

>>2176345

THIS ISN'T DEUS VULT.
THIS ISN'T DEUS VULT AT ALL.

>>2176347
Go, anon. Go be the magical girl you were always meant to be.

>>2176340
>>2176345
>>2176347

huh so this is one of those where we going to wait until you're done with the dumping to know the name of the mod

>>2176350
>I am a retard who can't read the very first fucking screenshot

>>2176351

*the download link. sorry, didn't want to cause you trouble. proceed

>>2176347
>>2176348

I did a little baton spin and everyone died.

>>2176350

Are...are you capable of reading the titlescreen, anon?

>>2176353

Fucking hell these damage numbers are insane.

>>2176352

https://github.com/LordMisfit/DV-DS-ComboPack

So dialogue choices in HDoom are a thing now.
(I'm so happy that I got this to work without issues)

>>2176356

Oh, I leveled up? I think?
I don't know what any of this does.

>>2176358
Well, shit. I accidentally uploaded the non-censored boobies version of the image.

>>2176359

I...I don't know what any of these do, either.
Do you really expect me to bind all of these keys?

>>2176362

WHAT IS GOING ON

I DON'T HAVE ALL DAY YOU FUG

>>2176363

WHAT IS THIS

>>2176367

WHY DO THE ZOMBIES HAVE ROCKET LAUNCHERS

Hey guys how do you feel about FMOD midi? You know, the default one in G/ZDoom?

>>2176347

>>2176371

Fuck it I'm just gonna give everything an
oh
3d model rip weapons
cool

>>2176365

WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU WANT

>>2176378

Pretty hefty arms for a lady.

>>2176381

WHY ARE THERE STEALTH SUPER SHOTGUN GUYS

>>2176382

Fuck this. I'm done.

>>2176358
Okay, here's the 4chan-friendly version that I meant to upload before

>>2176391
Damn, what a qt
I can't wait to see what kind of dialogues you're gonna come with for all the demons

>>2176391
Can see the nipples on the sprite one on the lower picture. My pure Christian eyes have been tainted forever.

>>2176423
*jumps off the nearest cliff*

So I've beaten Ultimate, II, Final and Scythe 2. Where do I go from here?

>>2176372
it's not open source therefore i hate it on principle.

>>2176340
where did you find out about this thing? does it have a forum thread?

>>2176442
if you want to stay old school, play memento mori, its sequel, and hell revealed, or just start going through doomworld's top 100 wads and pick something that takes your fancy. if you want to go modern, pick a recent years' cacowards.

http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?id=4855
http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?id=6562
http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?id=7947

einherjar (viking mod) updated just now from v0.5 to v0.5a

http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=47512

>fixed some bugs with invulnerability spheres
>tweaked some graphics
>added sweet new TITLEPIC and F1 screens
>changed arrows -- can not longer be recovered

that's about it. have fun.

>>2176512
the stone looks much better now. :)

>>2176535
yeah...I agree. you guys were right about it looking gayer than gay before.

the f1 screen finally spells shield correctly and actually gives information that's up to date with modern gameplay. even though this update added very little, I'm happy with it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YolwVFjHf-M

trigger warning: this video is bait, but it's quite funny. "you can't even aim down sights"

>>2176391
Why are the imp girls the most adorable ones?

>>2176612
I honestly have no idea

>>2176629
i don't think he was asking you specifically !

>>2176612
They're the most human in dimensions. The Baron girls are too tall, the Demon girls are hunched over, and the lost soul is just a head. Additionally, the tsundere personality given to them has an appeal that I guess a lot of people get attached to. Those are some reasons I can think of, anyway.

>>2176640
Oh I know that :p

>>2175703
Archviles should be threat priority 1 if they're part of crowds of revenants.

>>2176391
>black imp girl
HNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNG!!!

>>2176676
She's in the current release in case you didn't know: http://static.best-ever.org/wads/m12-hdoom-techdemo6b.pk3

Note that dialogue choices aren't in the current version, and there is a bug that causes dialogue to appear for all players in multiplayer

>>2176149
I always find it funny that people consider E1M7 as non-linear, when it has a very specific path in which the level is progressed. You just backtrack through a couple hallways and thats it.

E2M5 on the other hand, literally requires you to explore to figure out where the exits are. No keys, yet a complex maze.

>>2176678
I have yet to play HDoom. She's too cute though. >you'll never snuggle with a qt imp gf

>>2176147
E1L1 and E1L2 kinda requires you to reach the secrets. Ammo is more plentiful in the later half of E1, though.

>>2176356
>>2176353
>>2176347
>this fucked up HUD
No way to change this cluttered mess?

>>2176686
I like E1M7, but E2M2 and E2M7 are the best maps (though E1M2, E2M4 and E2M5 are also good)

>>2175734
who are you quoting?

>>2176793
>>>/jp/
Go back to your cancerous hole.

I REALLY hope TNT2 and TNT:Reviluition actually come out this year. I've been looking forward to them for years.

>>2176442
Scythe 1 if you havent already
Memento Mori
Memento Mori II
Requiem
Icarus
Eternal Doom
Plutonia 2 (Requires plutonia.wad)
Plutonia Revisited (Requires plutonia.wad)
Hell Revealed
Hell Revealed 2
Alien Vendetta
Kama Sutra
Speed of Doom
Resurgence
Unholy Realms
Going Down
Hadephobia
Whispers of Satan
Reverie
Jenesis
Back to Saturn X: Get Out of My Stations
Back to Saturn X: Tower in the Fountain of Sparks (Still in beta stages, though)

>>2176612
largest amount of fan art, other monsters have far less, also other monsters are portrayed by artists as "sexy" instead of "cute"

>>2176878
>"sexy"
i mean "seductive"

>>2176823
I wonder if they'll require tnt.wad or not

I remember Plutonia 2 didnt start requiring plutonia.wad until later in development. I find it weird that early in development, it used TNTs sky2 as sky2, and Plutonia's sky2 as sky3.

>>2176882
i expect they will, it's silly to have to import half an iwad's worth of textures when you can just say "use -iwad tnt"

>>2176823
Oh yeah, I recall I played the demo to TNT2 and quite enjoyed it, really knew how to tease me because my heart sank after realizing there were no more levels yet.

How are they in development? How far are they gone?

Would an Ikaruga-style weapon system work well in an FPS?

i.e.:
>enemies come in "dark" or "light" variety
>you have a dark and light beam
>killing an enemy with its opposite makes it drop ammo of its own color

>>2176939
didn't metroid prime 2 do that?

Whou would have thought, it actually works and is a 99,9% correct replica of the original Expander, it even works online (yes, this is Zandronum).

>>2176959

That is fuckin awesome

>>2176959
what's the map?

>>2176945
Yes. Minus the "enemies come in dark and light varieties" part, he just described Metroid Prime 2's gimmick.

>>2176973
Chillax, map02

>>2176962
It even supports all IWADs, just have to finish DM support.

>>2176959

> monster gets wider if no room to stretch upwards

Yuuush!

>>2176975
actually, mp2 had light and dark variants of all normal (I.e. not pure ing) enemies.

>>2176891
They're both pretty far. they're just being slow.

Also i believe the TNT2 demo's maps are not only outdated now, but a couple of its maps are also part of TNT Revilution now.

>>2176885
I believe they're hardly using any TNT textures. Mostly new ones in the theme of TNT. Think cause some of TNT's default textures look shit.

>>2177096
Huh.

Well, more TNT for me, I loved the cock out of TNT. Will it have original music?

Huh. That was amusing.
>Playing Quake with retrojam2
>Find a weapon-on-a-pentagram
itsatrap.jpg
>grab weapon, run off platform
>Sound of teleport, gibs start spawning around me
>Realize I just telefragged the shambler set to spawn in
Thatwasunexpectedlyawesome.jpg

>>2177161
so it won't be much like TNT, then...

to be fair i don't care for the TNT textures because of the authors' propensity to emblazon every texture with their name. it's especially noticable in any map with lots of crates, such as Shipping/Respawning (map19).

>>2177214
>so it won't be much like TNT, then...

Well, I believe the new Textures are inspired by TNTs default textures, just better looking. There will still be "TNT" on textures.

>>2177196
>Will it have original music?

I believe so. I remember the Doomworld thread once asked for midis.

>>2177250

>>2177284
q1tex with TNT written on it?

Why is this general not in /vg/? I spent ages looking for it there

>>2177316
Because /vg/ is where the games go to die

>>2176612
>>2176646
>>2176878
>>2176879

Knights will always be top-tier to me.
>dat voice
>dat build
>dat elegance
>dem muscles
>nobody arts them
>nobody cares about them
>have never gotten an update
>will never be developed on

rip the dream

>>2177316
Anything that's not mobashit or flavor of the month dies on /vg/. Doom never goes out of style here.

>>2177329
>>2177335

Don't respond. He doesn't actually care, he just wants to stir up shit.

>>2177338
No sorry that's not the intention, I just wondered what the reason was since /vr/ is quite slow

>>2177331

Oh, and
>the sprite art will never match the original drawings

;_;7

>>2177348
that's the original?

i heard hdoom came from a hellknight picture but i don't think i've ever seen it before

What's the best Doom port for Linux? Just switched to Linux recently and I want to see how Doom looks

It's not really mentioned on the pastebin

>>2177369

Yup.

So did any of you guys play Bomberman+Doom?


As to what I'm talking about: http://factor-software.com/boom.php

>>2177375
Would definitely waifu/10

>>2177371
pretty much any modern source port works on linux, so take your pick.

>>2177375
>>2177348
the sprite comes out looking more chunky

>>2177375
> "Ah, tits... the greatest communicator! Allow me to communicate my wish to suck your tits!"

>>2177375
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0DjuU8LZ7NM

>>2177705

>>2177705
haha

Guys... I think Evolve's monsters are the only thing that would have (a tiny, insignificant in not-hell) any sort of chance against the Doomguy. Anyone else?

>>2177761
As in, what monsters could take on Doomguy?

Anything designed to be defeated, just like any video game character.

>>2177804
>>2177761

I think they already encountered each other. Behemoth's HUGE GUTS are already ripped and teared as seen here

Any cool cosmetic weapon replacements? Want to play this again and I figured this would be the best place to ask. I've not played this in years and last good wad I recall for levels was memento mori, lots to catch up on.

>>2177843
There are lots of weapons mods, but I can't really think of many that are purely cosmetic.
Smoothdoom and the Doom 64 mods play more or less the same as vanilla, but have lots of cosmetic changes.

>>2177339
Here's the thing: /vr/ might be slow, but unlike /vg/, it's a board that people browse. People don't go to /vg/ if they're not looking for a specific general. We still get people totally new to Doom from time to time, and that wouldn't happen if we were on /vg/.

I'm playing Trailblazer and the smoke effects are absolutely killing my framerate, how can I disable them?

Is it me, or Trailblazer guns just don't feel right? It's like they have more bark than bite.

arse

>>2177993

The machete is pretty badass though

>>2178105
Agreed

>>2176959
Holy gamma Batman!

>>2178187

http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=47550

Here we go

>>2178221
this mean i can communicate with my waifu soon?

>>2178224
Maybe :p

>>2177993
Played a bit with it and these are my gripes:
>If you hold RMB, LMB doesn't register. And vice-versa.
>Pushback effects on some guns is really annoying, not sure if they fuck up your momentum when you're running but something feels wrong.
>Some weapons auto-reload and some don't.
>Pump-action shotgun feels like shit with both fire types.
>Weapon recoil is really over the top, and for some reason, single firing the magnum does more recoil than the auto-fire secondary.

I didn't really like this mod since I hate reloading in Doom.
I did like the double sawed-off shotgun, the heavy machinegun, the machinegun, the machete and the magnum. The rest feels weak or is annoying.

>>2178240
RMB and LMB work together for the guns that need it.
Minigun pushback is annoying.

Pump action shotgun is getting a buff in the next update.
Magnum secondary deals the same damage range as primary, but the recoil keeps it from being relevant.

>>2177214
>authors' propensity to emblazon every texture with their name.

I'm pretty sure the reason why they were called TeamTNT in the first place was because TNT Evilution was their first project. They werent advertising their team. TNT was the actual name of the megawad.

>>2177982

There's no cvar to remove them currently so you'd have to remove them yourself

Not all the sprites of course, Theres probably some sort of A_SpawnItem("SmokeOrWhatever") in the weapon codes, you can just comment them out

>>2178251
>TNT Evilution was their first project
weird way to spell "Icarus: Alien Vanguard"

>>2178335
Icarus came out first, but they started developing it AFTER id software bought out TNT.

>>2178335
TNT was their first project, dude.

Back in 95, it was in competition with Memento Mori and H2H-Xmas to see which would come out first. But then id software bought it out. So they then started Icarus as an apology for the flak they were receiving.

>>2178260

Ha, that was easy. There was a text file called gunsmoke and I just deleted everything within the brackets of the spawners.

>>2178240
>I didn't really like this mod since I hate reloading in Doom.
you must hate almost every weapon mod ever made, then (as do I!)

>>2178387
i've never even heard of H2H-Xmas, it can't be very good

>>2178574
I'm not him, but I do think that reloading just does not fits Doom. The only mod with reloading that I can tolerate is DoomRL, and only because it helps with the balance. And the mod makers always choose the worst possible sounds for the reload.

Another thing that bugs me is that many mods include iron sights, but no one ever thinks about adding an accurate marksman weapon in their mods.

>>2178601
In the top 100 of all time, its listed under 1995.

Its okay for 1995, but its aged pretty badly.

>>2178610
>>2178240
Would a toggleable reloading or non-reloading be a feature you would want in a hypothetical mod? What would you want to have to balance it or just don't reload and let it be easier (and then potentially play at a higher difficulty to compensate)? Or do you think if it has reloading there's just no satisfying both crowds?

>>2178646
For the love of god, never, ever add the reload for pump-action shotgun. For some reason, it always feels too long and too inconvenient in Doom. I would accept it as part of alternate attack where you need to load a special extra-powerful shell into the shotty.

>>2178660
If it's already in, would you want not having it to be a toggleable option?

How would you want multiple shell types handled if reloading isn't a thing?

>>2178601
>>2178632
Even though it has Single Player implemented, most of its levels were clearly geared towards deathmatch, hence the H2H (Head 2 Head).

>>2178660

>I would accept it as part of alternate attack where you need to load a special extra-powerful shell into the shotty.

>Jam a KING-SIZE/EXTRA STRENGTH/DOUBLE DOSE shell into the shotgun, it's actually physically larger than the normal shells
>when fired, you shoot a shitload of firemace spheres in a scattergun blast

now there's an idea.

>>2178660
>For some reason, it always feels too long and too inconvenient in Doom.

Because most people insist on shell-by-shell reloads.

My next mod is going to have reloads, but they're going to be fast Goldeneye-style reloads with extended magazines, so reloading is quick, instant, and takes barely any time at all.
And I don't mean WildWeasel-style Goldeneye reloads, I mean actual Goldeneye-style reloads.

Weasel, I love Nazis, but if you stop making the reloads fast and add extra animations on to them, then they're not Goldeneye-style.

>>2178660
Probably because everyone does it one shell at a time.

In Doom 3, you reloaded two shells at a time, one action, two shells. If you implemented this to a shotgun with a 5 round magazine tube, that's three loading motions and a pump, it can be made relatively quick, especially good is if the reloading process can be aborted, because that makes everything better, say you're in a pinch, and your gun is empty, but you only need one shell, no sense in waiting for the full reload.

I remember some old version of Brutal Doom tried to balance this out by giving the shotgun an 11 round magazine tube, and made the loading action much faster, and it looked goofy as shit with the player loading each and every single shell at Sanic speed. In my opinion, people should strive to emulate the Doom 3 style reload instead, and maybe not have such excessively long magazines for these guns.

Of course, there exist pump-action shotguns with detachable box magazines (they're fairly popular in Canada).

>>2178696

that delicious auto shotty from MSX springs to mind.

>>2178679
I do this because I like shell by shell reloads. I think they're cool and I can boost the power of the shotgun to compensate for the reload time. Also, it's pretty neat because (in TSP anyway) you can switch shell types. But I can see why they would be considered bleh.

>>2178610
>but I do think that reloading just does not fits Doom

What exactly is the point in using a gameplay mod, if you're gonna use the "does not fit doom" excuse?

>>2178696
shells come in fours so reload four at once if you're going to do it at all which you should not because this is Doom not Realistic Firearm Simulator 2000

>>2178732
>this is Doom not Realistic Firearm Simulator 2000
I used to think this way too, but then I realized that Doom actually does quite a few things with its guns more realistically than most modern shooters. The shotgun's accuracy, the trigger weight (3-tic firing delay on both shotguns), bullet weapons only getting inaccurate if you spray like a retard, just to name a few. Things only get especially unrealistic when unrealistic weapons are introduced.

>>2178738
>bullet weapons only getting inaccurate if you spray like a retard

I should do this with the Sabbath.
I mean, of all things DemonSteele could lay claim to, realism ain't exactly at the top of the list, but come on. It's basic fucking discipline.

>>2178732
Haven't played Trailblazer, but if the magazine holds for, and you reload two shells at a time, that stuff is really not that inconvenient, just learn to plan your shooting a little.

>>2178757
*four
But really, click-click, click-click, that goes fast, then chuck-chuck.

Uh, is it normal that Trailblazer displays no HUD whatsoever?

>>2178792
Press +

>>2178794
Ah, alright, thanks. Didn't expect it to only show up at a certain screen size. Also had to disable HUD stretching so that I can actually read it.

>>2178738
>3tic delay
>trigger weight

what? weight means fuck all for how long it takes to pull the trigger. length of travel would have more to do with it.

>shotgun accuracy
I'm yet to see a shotgun that patterns a dead horizontal line.

besides...doom has a man portable chaingun. accuracy and realism just died

>>2178807
A chaingun that just shoots a bit faster than the normal pistol.

>>2178807
You still measure trigger pull by weight.
For instance, a trigger that weighs in at 22lbs (like a Nagant Revolver) would be heavy as balls and require you to strain your fingers significantly to pull it, you'll probably strain your wrist reflexively trying to pull the trigger, throwing off your aim.

>>2178807
>I'm yet to see a shotgun that patterns a dead horizontal line.
It is absolutely possible.

>>2178807
he means that the shotgun is still effective at medium to long range, as well you know

>>2178807
>doom has a man portable chaingun.
That fires almost as slow as a hand-cranked gatling gun. I do like that in most weapon mods I've tried, anything that goes in the chaingun slot tends to be a lot faster. I particularly like the FMG and Minigun in Trailblazer.

>>2178828
Here's a better picture.

>>2178828
>>2178980

God damn, shotguns are beautiful weapons.

>>2178975
I think even Doom 64 boosted the speed of the Chaingun, which made it a much more satisfying weapon (especially with the sound, it kind of "rolled" with it so to speak).

>>2178981
Oh yeah, and can be incredibly versatile, depending on the load you use, it can be used for hunting small, medium, or large game, fowl, varmint, home defense, combat, breaching, there's shells that fire off signal flares, which are handy in emergencies.

It also helps that shotguns are easy to make sturdy, and can be made incredibly cheap (you can find used single-shot guns for like 80 bucks all over North America and it'll never ever break), you don't even have to rifle the bore.

>>2178990

Shotguns are awesome. Keep posting this shit, it pleases the god of shotguns

>>2178990
>>2178980
>>2178828
>>2178992
Our Lord and Savior.

>>2178806
laughed too hard

>>2178806

Why.

>>2178990
Single shot, is it doom approved?

Do they sell 'hammerless singleshit?

>>2178998
I wonder who masterminded this.

Original image

I'd say, but it'd probably cause a shitstorm.

that OP title has me wondering about alternate lore for the Archvile as evil Martian wizards who worship satan

>>2179137
alternate to what?

>>2179123
Some guy posted a stock-looking image of a guy holding a shotgun with a shitload of shells, and it just sort of spiraled out of control from there.

>>2179141
hell wizard.

The great thing about doom lore, is user creativity and interpretation

>>2179119
Most single-barrel shotguns use a hammer, and are single-action, because it's super simple, even the shoddiest factory can put out a single shot shotgun that's really durable and reliable.

You could find and old one, for 70 dollars, at a yard-sale, with a crooked sight, imported from Brazil, in the 50's or 60's, and it has no serial number (because there was no law requiring that yet) or manufacturer logo, just the importers name (who have been out of business for decades), and even if the stock has a big ugly crack in it and the finish is worn and a little rusted from being stored in a damp shed in Louisiana, the hammer will cock, the trigger will work, the breech will lock, safely, if it has an extractor, it will work, you couldn't fuck it up.

As for Doom approved? Well, a gun is a gun, though it holds only one shot, that's still a shotgun shell, that hurts. It's lightweight, so it would be easy to keep in a backpack as a backup, especially if you saw down the barrel (and Doomguy wouldn't have to worry about paperwork or taxes). It wouldn't be a hard-core combat weapon, but it'd be a handy and light backup, and it's sturdy enough that you could use it as a club without worrying about nothing.

Okay, guys, you need idea for mod? How about a mod where every weapon is shotgun, and every ammo type is shotgun shells of different caliber?

Taurus Judge instead of pistol, drum-fed .410 Saiga instead of chaingun, shotgun replacements are pretty straightforward, and BFG can be replaced with sawn-off punt gun. I'm not sure what to do with rocket launcher, but some possible replacements can include M79 or China Lake grenade launcher (they kinda look like oversized shotguns), russian KS-23 shotgun (it accepts special muzzle grenade launcher to fire various less-lethal grenades, but we can safely fire lethal ones in hell) and AA-12 with explosive shells (cool, but mainstream)

>>2179189

You mean Shotguns2: Shotlectric Shotaloo?

>>2176959
It's finished now, feel free to download it from BE.
Notes:
* Use samsara-v0.31beta.pk3
* It supports all IWADS (Doom, Heretic, Hexen, Strife, Chex 3)
* Supports Deathmatch
* Works online
* Zandronum only

>>2179127

If it'd cause a shitstorm, then you'd be wrong. I'm the original creator of it, though I wouldn't call it "masterminding" by any stretch of the imagination.
Of course, you have no clue who I am, so I'm just happy with that.

>>2179143

Yes, some nerd was going on about how an image of a guy holding shotgun shells looked "wrong" because the image was supposedly facing the wrong way.
So I photoshopped it to make fun of him.

>>2177843
Eriguns is not specifically just cosmetic but it might as well be

You can also gank the weapons from Stomper

>tfw no mod with a trench gun with a usable bayonet

>>2179309
There are some trenchgun shotgun sprites out there.
It wouldn't be hard to jab the sprite upward to emulate stabbing with a bayonet.

>>2178982
I'm pretty sure it's the same speed, just with a faster animation and sound.

>>2179551
It's a little faster but the visual effects(Screen shake) make it feel much more satisfying.

There was a mod on the zdoom fourms a while that made running around have more traction, but I lost it. Does anyone know where I can download it?

>>2179306
I didn't think it would end up turning into what it did.

Anyway, fixed the top of the head on the first one, I didn't even notice it first time around.

>>2175506
http://techraptor.net/content/you-can-make-a-doom-visual-novel-with-this-mod this seems to be a great thing

>>2179656
why is this any better than just using strife dialogues?

>>2179272
does it do shoot and boot like other duke weapons?

>>2179706
>just using strife dialogues?
>using strife dialogues
>just

I dunno, how is it any better than nailing your feet to a brick and trying to ice skate?

>>2179720
so what...are strife dialogues supposed to be difficult?

PC Gamer is talking about us indirectly guys.

http://www.pcgamer.com/why-i-love-doom-wads/

Prepare for the flood.

>>2179825
Eh. They could've used a beter picture. Adventures of Square is fine and all (surpassed my expectations) but yeah.

>>2179825
I moreso expect a general influx to the doom community in general rather than specifically to /vr/.

>>2179154
i live in cali, i want a single shot with extractor.

i seen a lot of hammered ones, internal/no hammer seems to be uncommon.

>>2179825
>The Adventures of Square, for instance, isn't recognisably Doom.
>It's the Adult Swim version of Doom
So, it's edgy, tryhard, lolsorandumb rehash that is trying to pass violence off as humor?

>>2179861

That would probably better apply to a certain other mod.

>>2179902
hue?

>>2179861

That doesn't even add up. The adventures of square is really lighthearted and tongue in cheek. I'd compare it more to like homestar runner

>>2179656
>http://techraptor.net/content/you-can-make-a-doom-visual-novel-with-this-mod

Wait a second, someone wrote an article about something I made? And THAT fast? I'm truly flattered

>>2179921
It's called "Sarcasm", anon.

>>2179927
Quick! Do something mysoginistic!

>>2179927
Pretty cool, anon. Pretty cool.

http://youtu.be/K80WDh99pDo

I made a joke slaughtermap for the secret level in my helloworld.wad and everything went beautifully horrible

what are some good patches for quake?
the ultimate quake patch doesn't work anymore.

>>2179706
strife dialogues are harder
I think

>>2180095
nvm i fixed it

>>2180104
>nvm I fixed it
>doesn't say how

>>2180117
Would you like to know how I fixed it?

>>2180056

I miss spritenoob.

>>2180120
YES. FUCK

has anyone made a blood dragon themed wad?

>>2180135
Well you see,I had installed The Ultimate Quake Patch to my steam version of Quake. Now I don't know if there's better patches available or whatever, but I've always used this in the past due to being easy to set up, and it re-adds the music and fixes the resolution and a bunch of other handy things.
In the past, it'd work no problem, but with this recent installation, the game would launch, all patched up pretty then promptly crash. An obvious problem.

Looking for additional help on the author's forums, I encountered other people with this problem, so I figured that at this point the patch was unsupported and abandoned.

But I can be quite tenacious and wanted to get this damn thing working so I could play some Quake, so I looked into my Steam directory.

Turns out, in my Quake files, there's an application titled "Winquake", naturally I started it up and it launched. And it was Quake, a patched up pretty Quake and more importantly, the game didn't crash. Knowing this, I created a desktop shortcut for Winquake to have access to the functioning version of the game at my finger tips.

Curiously, I never did see the author comment on this anywhere, but I suppose it doesn't matter.

The Ultimate Quake Patch still works fine, it's just that it installs to the wrong folder by default, because Steam's directory structure changed

>>2180170
it defaulted to the proper folder for me (Steamapps/Common/Quake)

>>2180167
>>2180170
>>2180181
>ultimate quake patch
Doesn't it come with DarkPlaces? Fucking garbage if it does.

>>2179858
Most of them have just a regular exposed hammer, as that's easier in general, though I guess it wouldn't be at all impossible to have a concealed hammer (which would then have to be cocked by the breech being opened all the way, like on a hammer-less double-barrel), or, it can be striker fired, and have the same cock-on-open approach as the concealed hammer one.

Of course, it wouldn't be at all impossible to make a design that's double-action. Really though, they're all mostly with an exposed hammer as that's easier to make and use, and really hard to break.

Here's a .410 bore shotgun being abused:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-lyk1WyyJ4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAnbDvLIAac
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwX9mJvss1k
And here they finally break it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwKydDPY8Xo

.410 is a small, mild shell, that happens to be the same circumference as a .45 Long Colt, meaning you can shoot .45's out of it, and because of how insanely robust this kind of mechanical design is, anything that fits reasonably in the chamber will fire without the gun exploding (though I wouldn't recommend it, that shit is never safe, I'd say only the .45 Long Colt is reasonably safe). Of course, being a shotgun, it has no rifling, so accuracy will be balls, but it'll work.

I think that a single-barrel gun, in 20 or 12 gauge, with a sawed off barrel (like shorten it down to the handguard), could be a neat little weapon for a gameplay mod, like you could start with it along with a pistol or revolver, and the secondary attack would be to swing the gun like a club.

>>2180195
THanks for the info! I know nothing about guns at all, so this is really helpful.

>>2175506
There were some really fucking awesome retro fps runs at Awesome Games Done Quick this year.
I recommend you guys watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHJA1Z-nApM

It's the Jedi Knight: Dark Forces 2 run, and it's incredible. The runner is pretty informative and skilled, and the game is INCREDIBLY fast. Even if you haven't played JK:DF2 you really should watch it.

sup

>>2180324

God damn the pinkies have a big head.

>>2180324
That looks really good, nice work!

>>2180324
when you look at it from behind it looks like he has a huge ballsack

>>2180324
Cool!

>>2180195
Would doomguy an over under or side by side?

I guessi can get a single shot 12 gauge and call it Daisy.

>>2180346
Well, the super shotgun is a side-by-side hammerless gun, with sawed off barrels (don't saw off the barrels on a coach gun below 18 inches in length like that though, it's super illegal without the right paperwork and tax).

>>2180294
I was so much better at that game when I was a kid...

Guys, I'm playing Samsara as the Security Officer and every time I pick up a certain weapon, my weapon screen glitches out. It keeps displaying this error. Swapping to the fullscreen hud just makes my ammo meter go all crazy.

Does anyone know what causes this? Anyone know how to fix this?

>>2180405
if you're serious it's one of the two alien weapons, they did that in the original Marathon too because your HUD wasn't adapted for unknown weaponry

>>2180405
See http://marathongame.wikia.com/wiki/Alien_Weapon

>>2180409
>>2180413
Oh. That's actually kinda neat.

purgatry.wad

5 maps from 1995, various styles (towns, hell caves, blood canyons) deathmatch+monsters for single player

pretty good except a few excessively dark tunnels. maps are top-heavy from pistol starts due to openness from deathmatch-friendly design.

http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?id=3263

>>2180365
Fuck it.

I'm getting Rossi single shot, can't find a recent 'hammerless' product, but i guess thats what practice is for

>>2180195
That reminds me, The basic shotgun in DRLA is apparently supposed to be a single shotgun like this, but instead uses the classic doom sprite and pump animation for it's reload.
It strikes me as weird since so many other weapons are slightly modded vanilla sprites or have modified animations. Couldn't someone mod the super shotgun animation to make a simple single shotgun?

Well this was a fun experiment

>>2180465
Honestly, it doesn't seem to me like it's a thing that matters, it's not a weapon you'd fire very rapidly. Also, never carry a double barrel or single barrel shotgun in a sling with the hammer(s) cocked. There's an old story about a guy who carried his double-barrel in a sling, with the hammers cocked, as he jumped out of his truck, the gun hit the bed of the truck, on the hammers, and the gun discharged both barrels into the back of his head, killing him.

>>2180469
I think Scuba Steve made a full set of single barrel sprites out of the super shotgun back in the 90's, you could check to see if his old site is still hosted on Doomworld.

Then again, that could have been Cory Whittle.

>>2180365
why are they illegal, anyway? are they more likely to maim as opposed to outright kill, leading to an agonising inhumane death?

>>2180469
People have mentioned this before, but I have never seen anything official saying that the RL shotgun is any different from the Doom one.

Maybe I missed something.

>>2180506
It's just a logic thing to me. DRLA's Shotgun is a pump-action with a seemingly endless magazine tube, while the Combat Shotgun is your modern FPS shotgun with the single shell reloading. It isn't really a big deal.

>>2180506
The fact that you have to reload after every shot is the biggest indicator, I think. That, and the RL Pistol doesn't seem to be the normal Doom pistol either, being a six-shooter. I'd say the Combat versions of both weapons are the actual weapons used in Doom.

>>2180504
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Firearms_Act
basically the point was to try to get rid of the types of weapons used by gangsters during prohibition

>>2180504
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Firearms_Act
Basically, the Feds wanted to ban not just machineguns and silencers (mainly due to fear of poachers) but all types of concealable firearms, pistols, sawed off rifles and shotguns, etc, during Prohibition (basically to make it easier to put away dudes they suspected or didn't like, but otherwise had no evidence for, by making the kind of weapons they'd typically go for illegal)

But the NRA stepped in and lobbied to have pistols removed from the act, but sawed off rifles and shotguns still remain, even though they were probably more or less just about covering up potential loop-holes about pistols (basically, if pistols were illegal, they wanted to make it illegal to cut down a rifle into pistol size). You could argue for the banning of machineguns I guess (though I don't), but banning cutting down your rifle or shotgun to pistol size when pistols are legal makes precious little sense to me.

There's also a lot of strange loopholes and peculiarities regarding the definition of what constitutes a pistol. Say you have a lever-action rifle, if you cut that down without tax, that's a crime, but if you buy a lever-action pistol (a Mare's Leg) of the same make, that came that way from the factory and declared a pistol upon manufacture, that's legal and requires no special tax or paperwork. Basically, if it doesn't have a stock, and you say it's a pistol when you make it at the factory, it's a pistol, regardless of what it is (with some exceptions).

Strictly, it's not a ban, but back in 1934, 200 dollars was a substantial amount of money, and nobody was going to pay 200 dollars for the privilege of cutting down their 14 dollar duck gun to pistol size, so it was a De Facto ban. The tax hasn't been adjusted to inflation, so it's still 200 dollars, obviously way more affordable today. Machineguns have super high market prices though, since you're not allowed to register any more.

>>2180513
Nowadays, the justification would probably have altered to But Think About The Children, or some other such nonsense.

>>2180508
I think that the magazine limitations to the basic pistol and shotgun were to be faithful to the original DoomRL. From a logical standpoint, the Combat Pistol and Shotgun would be what you should normally run across when dealing with military (and zombies that used to be military).

Besides that, I also have a minor gripe with the "Assault" assemblies, as they seem more like "Marksman" weapons due to their more accurate and powerful single shot nature.

On that note, Could the "Battle Rifle" be simply renamed to "Rifle" for easier naming conventions? There aren't other basic rifle-type weapons that I ever came across, and stuff like "High Power Battle Rifle" seems a bit lengthy.

>>2180520
>I think that the magazine limitations to the basic pistol and shotgun were to be faithful to the original DoomRL.
I know that, I'm saying that what the original RL calls its "Pistol" and "Shotgun" are not what Doom calls its Pistol and Shotgun.

>>2180512
>>2180513
i see, thank you both very much.
>>2180514
yes it does seem to be typical reactionary law-making.

>>2180520
Eh, Assault is basically my interpretation of the assembly that didn't totally suck ass in Doom. Doesn't make sense name-wise, but whatever.

And renaming Battle Rifles is faaaaar too late now...

>>2180530
>Unique marksman rifle
Eh, you know what, I'm fine with this. How does that scope look when its in the usuall "middle of the screen" position? It kind of looks like it'll get in the way.

>Eh, Assault is basically my interpretation of the assembly that didn't totally suck ass in Doom. Doesn't make sense name-wise, but whatever.

I didn't play the original DoomRL. How does the Assault assembly work there?

>>2180494
Yeah but i want the hammerless feel. You know? doomguy putting in a new shell. close it and fire you know?

>>2180494
I guess a hammer shotty has an advantage

>>2180539
Well, you could look for a Savage Mod 220A, that's a hammerless single-shot gun, should be available in 12 Gauge. I don't know if Savage still makes them though, so you might have to look for one used.

>>2180534
It's fine, it just goes up quite high when reloading, your vision is unobstructed.
Also, heh, that's not a unique. Uniques are greeeeeen.

Assault Rifle basically doubles your damage (at least on the chaingun) and ammo usage, halves the amount of shots you fire, increases your accuracy and slows your reload speed. The increased damage looks good, but it still takes the same amount of time to fire half as many shots as on the original weapon. The accuracy boost is really good, but... you use agility mods to make it, which increase accuracy anyway.

It's basically a gun that only increases slightly, for the cost of three mods that could improve it far better if used differently.

I basically turfed the idea of copying it and did my own thing.

who's this asshole

My second attempt at a webm, hopefully it's alright for you guys.

This is showing off the Nanomachic weapon effects that Sgt. Shivers made, and how absolutely fucking awesome they are.

Also contains explosions.

>>2180671
>A_Recoil on Nano SSG
That's gonna get annoying really quickly.

>>2180671
Please tell me the Mother In Law is given the same effect

>>2180670
>filename
Well why wouldn't they be?
If you can enchant a sword, you can enchant a rifle, a weapon is a weapon.

>>2180682

I don't know I just needed a filename and that struck me as funny.

>>2180675
Better get some grappling boots then.

>>2180676
Nah, but I might try and spruce it up a bit sometime.

>>2180671
Guessing the Cluster Bomb Launcher is a Master assembly

fury667.wad

11 maps. bit basic but not bad.

some sound effects replaced. some annoying (player pain is simpsons "doh") some weird (arachnotrons sound like cyberdemon hoof + chainsaw, and die silently)

there is a cola machine on every level.

http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?id=4200

>>2180328
Goddamnit anon.

Is there any mod to play akimbo? Holding a gun in each hand, being able to independently switch them for others.

I am in love with this chaingun, please don't tell quadshotgun anyone has any idea what mod it's from?

fury667 again

>>2180493

That's a pretty slow and clunky animation.

>>2180976
I think DoomNukem made it for his Brutal Doom metamod which is ded by now.

I know Accessories to Murder currently uses it, dunno about others.

>>2180976
I think that's the Accessories to Murder chaingun.

Speaking of which, I just downloaded the cutting-edge release, and everything in the game starts flickering and slows down when I fire the pistol. If I do that a couple times, it crashes GZDoom. Is there a fix or should I just go to the stable release?

>>2181002
Have you tried different revisions of Gzdoom?
Most problems I have come from a specific set of revisions, but I will test this right now and see if I get it.

>>2181002
The count, on top of things as usual.

>>2181015
it'd be hilarious if you trolled him into quitting doom forever

>>2181087
Why would I do that?
It's not that I don't appreciate work he's done, but he can really be a stubborn faggot, and he gets wild ideas that don't make sense, like fucking up the renderer, or letting an autistic monkey do his netcode.

>>2180997
>>2181002
I really wish AtM was out for zandronum and that there was a way to just get the weapons rather both weapons and monsters.

But Stomper+AtM gives me a good reason to be lazy and not do any of my work.

>>2180324
Looks breddy gud. Faithful to the originalos. Though the muscles and skin don't overlap properly. Looks too lumpy not enough fleshy.

Still though. Good shit.

Hey guys, I'm only 2 years into loving doom so I don't know the history behind all the source ports.

Is there anyway to make the mouse movement 1:1 in Zandronum?

I had to put m_pitch to .5 and enable raw input in GZdoom, and it feels pretty great, but even when I use these settings in Zandronum it'll feel like I've got Vsync on.

And I'm guessing Zandronum and GZdoom will never be merged due to a combination of pissy drama and licenses right?

>>2181231
>And I'm guessing Zandronum and GZdoom will never be merged due to a combination of pissy drama and licenses right

It's the fact that it takes work to get the Zandronum netcode to work with the newer features, so GZDoom will always be more advanced than Zandronum but use worse netcode than it. You couldn't just merge them tomorrow and have stuff work.

>>2181231
>raw input in GZdoom
What? Where?

>>2181231
>a combination of pissy drama and licenses
i believe zandronum will always lag behind, simply because it takes a lot more careful programming to make new zdoom features work reliably and robustly over the network.

Where do I find the most recent version of Who Dun It?

What's the deal with Kharon's hilt in demonsteele?
Sometimes it one-shots enemies but on other times it hits like normal

>>2181460

Hilt? Do you mean the sheath?

>>2181473
Yes, I'm retarded

>>2181460

Custom enemies detected.

>>2181479
Yeah, I was playing on armageddon. What is it intended to do?

>>2181482

The short of the matter is that the Kharon's sheathe fires out a wide spray of +SHOOTABLE projectiles which are +SOLID and act as a barrier--a much more advanced version of the Kharon's own blocking ability. The enemies are normally immune to this damagetype, but custom enemies don't have resistance against this damagetype and ergo take a whole extra ton of damage.
It's the same deal with using Brutal Doom with custom enemies, you're able to kill them just by flipping them off.

Also the server is using an outdated version of DemonSteele, most of the Skulltag enemies are patched in the update. I don't know why, but the admin says they're trying to force a crash so ???

Super moves for Doom when

>>2181524
Same time we get stands

>>2180183

You could always use a different source port.

Wait a second, did DW kill joe?

>>2181587

nope, he just got loser'd; took him WAY too long compared to other cases

>>2181524
Metsu Hadouken, but with BFG instead

>>2181529
I need this

>>2181635
Speaking of which.
I never figured out how to do the kamehamehadouken in Demonsteele. Or any consistency in the regular hadouken.

>>2180550
I think im gonna get hammered, cuz safety reasons.

Again practice operating should be no problem.

>>2179927
Theres been a lot of Doom related articles ever since Doom 4 was hyped at quakecon.

>>2175509
http://www.doomworld.com/vb/wads-mods/69135-crumpets-wad-6-maps/

This looks pretty cool

>>2181668
>Ribbiks

I'm guessing they're challenging. Might give it a whirl

>>2181643

Same as executing normal special moves, but instead of double-tapping, you hit alt-fire.
Supposedly there's going to be special moves for the other guns in the same vein.

>>2181551
Still though, it's terrible that it's included. They should've included QuakeSpasm with all the necessary config changes to make it feel like DOS Quake.

>>2181486
why doesn't term simply apply +NODAMAGE and +NOPAIN (and whatever the flag for no bleeding is) to the kharon-sheath projectiles?

this is the basic concept behind coding simple flashlight beams, so why wouldn't it work here?

So in PrBoom+ can you retry a demo without having to close the game and open it back up again? Or does that just come with the territory.

Very annoying.

>>2180324
Looks pretty cool. I like that it looks to be done from scratch, rather than just filtering the default sprites.

>>2181710
i'm pretty sure the projectiles are meant to die instead of being an impenetrable shield, anon

>>2181718
I believe that's irrelevant, although I could be mistaken.

+NODAMAGE on a projectile causes the projectile to not cause damage to enemies; it can still die.

additionally, you could simply code the projectile with "(0)" as the "damage" property. {parenthesis indicating "explicit damage" rather than damage as factored by the RNG algo}

>>2181729
goddamn it...never mind, you're correct.

still, why would explicit 0 damage work?

>>2181712
Don't think you can. You'll just have to get used to it.

>>2181710
>>2181718
>>2181729
>>2181732

+NODAMAGE doesn't do anything for a projectile's damage (counterintuitively enough), but the lack of (0) damage is a holdover from all pre-v0.74 builds in which all of the projectiles had +SHOOTABLE on them and were blocked by damaging them.
Now that blocking is handled via a different means, I'll give (0) a shot and see what it's like.
Thanks.

>>2180992

Yeah, if I actually go forward with this in a future project I'll get some nicer looking animations/sprites. But the weapon itself is fun

>>2181712
unfortunately it's just annoying enough to program that nobody's ever bothered to do it. doom has always unceremoniously killed itself to end a demo recording session, and there's enough fiddly state that needs to be carefully reverted to initial values to ensure a re-recording synchronises correctly, compared to a quick F10, y, uparrow, enter from the user, as even 10 year old machines can restart the entire game process more or less instantly.

KNOCK KNOCK WHOS THERE ITS ME ITS ME ITS ME
HERE COMES THE NIGHT SHIFT
MANGLE AND TANGLE YOUR DANGLE

>>2180671

If the Nuclear Plasma Shotgun can be assembled from a Nuclear Plasma Rifle, does that mean the ordinary Plasma Shotgun is now also an assembly instead of an exotic?

>>2181912
nyet

Am i supposed to be getting iron maiden music whilst playing demonsteele? I'm only getting normal music

>>2181895
>People actually enjoy this shit.

Is it possible to code strife style dialogue options into a doom wad?

>>2181991
>someone actually reposts the same image over and over again
is this a may may?

This mapset is funky.

>>2182071
Whats it called?

>>2182071
What set of mods are you using?

>>2182097

Looks like it's Shut up and bleed.

>>2182093
Going Down, it's made by that Cyriak guy, pretty much the entire mapset is set in a high-rise building, the roof, the insides, all the floors, the basement, and what lies beneath, really cool and uses almost all stock textures, but in really cool and creative ways I never would have thought of.

>>2182097
A modified version of Shut Up And Bleed, it actually becomes way more playable, even really fun (though still flawed) if you increase the damage on all weapons and attacks by 5 to 10 points each. I also made it so some of the more fun and satisfying weapons allows you to carry more reloads (with the backpack), like the Deagle Brand Deagle, the Flamethrower (one of the best flamethrowers ever made for Doom), the Colt Railgun (or whatever it is), and the full-auto converted .22 Calico

The monsters are really cool as they are though, like this thing here in pic relaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Sorry, that thing just terrifies me something fierce.

>>2178992
What about shotgun revolvers?

>>2182128

you mean like the mashers from Borderlands? Yes. Those are very acceptable

Any good iOS ports?

I liked Doom Classic, so touch controls aren't a big deal for me, but is there anything that supports PWADs?

Whats everyone's stance of level aesthetics/detail?

I personally am fine with anything, as long the layout works, and the gameplay flows well.

>>2181969

If you have the jukebox loaded or ds_cl_nomusic enabled, when you turn into Iron Maiden there won't be any music.

>>2181863
Here's a speedrunner trick: bind quit to Y. It's one of those "so obvious, why did I not think of that myself" ideas.

Btw, pressing Q in vanilla ends demo recording. Over the years it has caused nothing but grief to runners that interrupted their sweet runs with a finger slip.

>>2180324
Looks like a 3D model, but is it?

>>2182416
well it's either a 3d model or frames made from a 3d model. so there's really no difference.

Does Trailblazer's bio suit not protect against radiation?

in The Eye, once you've jumped down through the three-key door into the middle, is there any way back up?

>>2182128
Shame they're shit IRL, because they look super cool.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uoy14h6K5TY

>>2182459
That's not a shotgun revolver you dummy.

>>2182459
That is a drum not a revolver.

>>2182459
Trying to reload one of those in a combat situation must be hell

>>2182476
No, that's not a detachable box magazine or drum magazine, the Striker/Streetsweeper is literally a double-action revolver, that's a fixed cylinder that holds 12 shots.

>>2182520
>the Striker/Streetsweeper is literally a double-action revolver

No, the Striker/Streetsweeper is literally a shotgun.
This is literally a double-action revolver.

>>2182515
It's a shitty gun for a reason.

>>2182520
the magazine is detachable, it can be used as a landmine

>>2182115
Does your version of the mod make it too easy thought?
If not can you share it?

okay so

we have, at some extent, the Doom logo font and the text font.

what about wolfenstein?

>>2182531
That's the Jackhammer.

>>2182524
No, as in, the Striker is literally a revolver design, it's not a drum, it's literally a big 12 chamber cylinder in 12 gauge size, and the mechanism is a double-action only mechanism.

>>2182531
You can dissassemble the Striker, and remove the cylinder for cleaning, but it's not readily detachable, the Striker, or any of it's model, has no such feature, it's much too simplistic for that.

The gun you are thinking of is the Pancor Jackhammer, a rare prototype shotgun (and much more advanced than the Striker, the Jackhammer is actually automatic), though it too has it's roots in South Africa.

Pic related is the Striker cylinder removed from the drum housing that surrounds it.

>>2182540

>>2182546
What is with South Africa and shotguns anyway?