/vr/ - Retro Games

The series definitely got better as time went on. The SNES/SuFami games are fantastic and much better than the NES games, which I'd say are just a novelty if you're a fan of Goemon.

Don't play the NES games expecting the character of the SNES and N64 games is all.

>>2165132
Doesn't look like there's a fan translation for the second and third SFC Goemon games. That's a shame.

Anyone know if they're playable without knowing moon?

>>2165157
I haven't played the third game, but the second is perfectly playable without knowing Japanese. You might miss out on a few things, but it's a platformer, you'll be fine.

Ah yes, can't go wrong with the Goemon games. I still have the SNES one, along with both N64 games that were released in the US. Here's a photo of mine.

>>2165132
>The series definitely got better as time went on.
Let's not be hasty...

I have no idea what these games are about. I tried watching some gameplay footage and I still couldn't figure out what kind of game it is. Is it sort of like Zelda?

>>2165201
They're mostly platformers, MNSG is the most zelda-like you will find. Some of them are puzzle games or board game spinoffs. Honestly the franchise is a lot huger than you'd think.

Mystical Ninja is my favorite N64 game. Last year I finally got a copy of Great Adventure and I tried, I really tried, but I just can't get into it.

>>2165213
Well that's a shame.
Great Adventure is a real great game for some co-ops.

>>2165194
The ones developed by Osaka, not Kobe.

Though I do happen to enjoy Kobe's Castlevania games.

>>2165132
>The SNES/SuFami games are fantastic and much better than the NES games, which I'd say are just a novelty if you're a fan of Goemon.

I dunno about that. I legitimately enjoyed the 2nd famicom Goemon game.
There's a fan translation of it too, so I'd recommend it to anyone

I don't get why people have such a boner for this game, you just go right.

>>2165313
>you just go right
at least a third of the levels involve going left
have you even played the game?

>>2165313
Every sidescrolling platformer does that, though.

>>2165127
>I always hear people saying anything released after Great Adventure is shit

At some point Konami decided to change things up for the franchise, but the results were a bland futuristic title on the Playstation and GBA and that ugly PS2 game that wanted to go a more serious route. The DS game looks alright though.

>>2165132
I'm curious about the RPG games on the Famicom. Although given the language barrier I will probably never play them.

Did anyone ever try co-op over netplay? How should I go about doing it?

>>2165324
I played a couple levels and couldn't figure out where the fun was so I stopped playing.
Probably prematurely but in my defense I had never heard of the game and I judged everything that I hadn't seen on those first levels.

>>2165127
>N64 memory card required.

this was some of the dumbest shit nintendo ever pulled.

>>2165508
The only really dumb thing about it is that the only developers that used the controller pak were third party developers that were too cheap to include saves in the actual cartridge. Most 1st and 2nd party Nintendo developers had internal saves.

Does anyone know if the Game Boy games were any good? I remember hearing that the one that was officially translated was shit, while the rest were okay.

>>2165504
It's fair enough that you left the game, it isn't for everyone. If I had to explain my boner for this game, or Goemon as a whole, it's a combination of well-integrated co-op, variety in stages, great music, and corny Japanese humor

And the fact that Ebisumaru is best girl. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwY_khZDoqk

If you get a chance, I'd recommend trying another one; each game has a different feel to it. The NES games and first SNES one are less linear, mostly top-down stages. The second SNES game progresses like Mario World a little, and the first N64 game is similar to Zelda. I haven't played them all, but the SNES games feel the most polished, IMO.

>>2165413
The RPGs were the ones where Yae first popped up, and were about Goemon getting his pipe back and winning a huge prize, right?

Those need translations.

>>2165520
because the sram cost even more money to include
it's still dumb, jim

>>2165910
Yup. I think in the second game you can even get Simon Belmont in your party.

Can we have some gameplay footage indicative of this being worthwhile, please?

>>2165967
Is it that hard to go on YouTube and look for it yourself?

>>2165967
Boot a rom and play it for an hour. Or better yet, play it until you defeat the first boss. You can get a pleasant surprise

>>2165969
>>2165972
footage plaese

>>2165313
You didn't play enough to get to the FIRST PERSON GIANT ROBOT BATTLES.

>>2165984
Speaking of which, I'll never get their logic in keeping the Japanese voice acting but removing the opening and the Double Impact sequence in the North American version.

>>2166012
maybe they added something and had to take it out to make space? idk

Goemon games rule, the perfect mix of platforming + rpg elements
The SNES one that got translated is superior

>>2166081
There isn't any reason as far as I know. Maybe the localization team thought nobody liked those scenes in the first N64 game.

>>2165975
By "this", do you mean the series, or the game?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WH-Uec42-o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkzkRPZUNwo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSNrzt11cs8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9f0MZZlg6E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJrnlFW4IMc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKQbqyMDOLQ

>>2166012
And didn't they remove the voice acting in Mystical Ninja Starring Goemon, but kept the opening and Impact music?

Maybe they were harder to translate. I know that the first Impact song has him screaming "ORE WA GORGEOUS", and it was translated as "I am the greatest!"

>>2166127
>And didn't they remove the voice acting in Mystical Ninja Starring Goemon, but kept the opening and Impact music?

Yup. I don't feel nearly as bothered about that, but I do wonder why they couldn't have just both been left in. There's no editing in the world good enough to mask how Japanese these games are.

I don't think they were necessarily harder to translate. But if the localization team for Goemon's Great Adventure is the same as Mystical Ninja Starring Goemon, there's definitely some blind idiot translating going on there.

>>2165931
Which game are you referring to? Goemon 2 for the SFC? Simon makes a cameo (as does Sparkster, and characters from God Medicine) but isn't playable

>>2166496
Ganbare Goemon Gaiden 2 on the Famicom.

Hell yeah motherfucker.
The second N64 game is on my favorite games of all time list, and the first one is great as well.
Only recently got around to playing Mystical Ninja on the SNES which was pretty awesome although it's probably even better if you have a co-op partner to play with.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxafn1dF-cE

>>2166513
Never knew this. Any screenshots?

>>2166181
take it with a grain of salt, since I don't remember where I came across this information, but I thought I remember hearing the localization team could only have the vocal songs or the voiced segments. They couldn't do both because of money constraints. Dunno how that process works though, so can't really say how valid that statement is.

>>2166614
I read about it initially on the Hardcore Gaming 101 article.

>>2166629
I guess we'll never really know why. Still, it's amazing they made it here in the first place so I guess I really shouldn't complain.

>>2166629

The main theme is by Hironobu Kageyama, and the Impact theme by Mizuki Ichiro, on both games. Maybe Konami in USA couldn't include them due to some copyright issues, it's a possibility.


By the way I loved the phone hot line sidequest with Yae in GGA. It's little things like that that gives these games the amount of personality they have, besides solid gameplay and design, and god tier OSTs.

>>2167651
If it was ever an issue, then it was only for the second N64 game. Mystical Ninja Starring Goemon still had the opening and Impact theme.

Shame, because I think Smile Again is a lot better of a theme song even if the opening video is 90s anime as fuck.

>>2166629
That would explain why great adventure has a voice acted opening cutscene but not the Double Impact song.
They cut the deal one way for one game and the other way for the other.

GGA is one of my favorite games ever. Great branched level design, amazing music, co-op compatibility, all while retaining a decent challenge.
My favorite song from the game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLjATgpc2qA (Majin Castle)

I love N64 Goemon games.
MNSG is my fav, although I consider GGA the better game overall.

>>2169434

>Majin Castle

my Goenigga

>>2166012
Seriously, I don't know why they would omit one of the best parts of the game. I didn't even know there was the Double Impact song until just recently, and I've beaten the game years ago.

Yae is the OG waifu

I'm expecting my copy next week
it's been 15 years and now I'll finally get to play it

>>2170889

We didn't even get a proper introduction to Miss Impact in the game.

>>2170893
I see the good points of Yae, realize that green-haired bazooka-wielding mermaid kunoichi are underrepresented, and respect your taste.

But Ebisumaru is still the Yangiest.

>>2171529
> But Ebisumaru is still the Yangiest.

Ha, I see what you did there.