/vr/ - Retro Games

Not retro.

>>2164572
Is emulation discussion not allowed in /vr/ anymore?

>>2164569
>Did I just waste my money?

Yes, yes you did. Well sort of its good at what it does but shit you can get a JXD #### or a nvidia shield for almost as much.

>>2164574
You're asking about hardware not emulation. Not retro.

>>2164575
The nvidia shield is way too big and bulky for my needs, and I ain't buying chinese crap

>>2164575

Are there any recommended chinese shit for emulation? I've always wanted one of those tablets.

>>2164569
Just see how the emulators are and whether you like them.
No use asking after you bought it anyway.

>>2164616
Just get a second had PSP, install a custom firmware, install emulators, boom.

Solid, reliable console with a decent battery life and emulators still being developed and improved now and then.

Better than a JXD, at least still for the time being.

>>2164581
Not them but, asking about hardware for retro emulation is fine from what I've seen. Like there have been threads in the past asking about what the best tablet or other handheld devices are best for emulation.

>>2164569
You probably would have been better off with a PSP or an Xperia Play if you "just wanna play the games", they're much cheaper and can do PS1 (PSP can play its own games too obviously, but it has problems with emulating some games, specifically certain SNES games). The GCW Zero is too expensive for how weak its hardware is.

>>2164714
>>2164581
in this case talking about the computer that is used to emulate or any non retro computer would not be allowed since all computers have the possibility if also being game systems.

anyway, i have a dingoo and like it. nes gbc and zsnes work fine. yes i mean zsnes. gba has frame skipping issues if youre autistic about emulation. although i think if you run dingux its fixed.

>>2164590
Where do you think the GCW Zero is made? America?
Also the JXD's are fairly well made and pretty reasonable. Also
>xperia play
>psp
>nvidia shield
There's numerous things you could've gotten that would've been better for about the same or even less money. The GCW Zero is overpriced, and limited.

>I just bought something
>Is it good?

why not ask how it is BEFORE you buy the thing you retard.

>>2164569

I am very happy with my second hand white PSP3000 and the emulators. About $50 some time ago.. However, enjoy your new handheld, that is the only important thing.

>>2164581
Nobody cares, faggot. If you don't have anything constructive to say just keep your hands off the keyboard.

>>2164794
Of the JXD models, which would you recommend?

>>2165058
If you also want NDS and Dreamcast emulation and/or android titles/ports like GTA San Andreas, Jet Set Radio, Return to Castle Wolfenstein, Jedi Academy etc, or just like bigger 7" screens - s7800b is the way to go. It's pretty big though.

If you only care about PS1/N64 and earlier - I'd suggest s5800 - it's smaller and is actually portabe, as well as more comfortable in hands. It does not have as much horsepower to play San Andreas and Jedi Academy smoothly though, which is why I bought s7800b

>>2164794
I've heard JXD build quality is a dice roll though. Some people get really, really good models and have no problems, other people get shabby ones that fall apart.

>>2166089
It was at first, but then manufacturer fixed their mistakes and the next shipments came without it. You never know what shipment you are bying though, unless you buy from redistributor that confirmed the party they are selling. Shuffle through Aliexpresses reviews to see who has good/bad consoles, or go to Willgoo, where stuff is few bucks more expensive, but they actually check the consoles before shipping.

I got mine from Wiilgoo as soon as it was released, and it worked really well ever since.

>>2164581
you're a faggot

>>2164569
it's pretty outdated and underfeatured compared to newer Chinese emulation handhelds

>>2164648
>better than a JXD

bullshit

psp snes emulation a shit
potentially bricking psp / having to backdoor in the first place
psp cant do dreamcast/n64/not enough buttons for all ps1 games

etc.

psp is pleb tier, but it's ok

>>2166147
>potentially bricking psp

You have no idea what you're talking about.

>>2166143
Sanemax is making a Tegra 4 gamepad, and it looks good stats-wise, but ergonomicaly-wise it is an unweildy beast. I don;t think it would be comfortable to play.

>>2166152
Anyway
psp can't into proper aspect ratio for many PSX games it's supposed to support natively
Enjoy squished characters.

And even then, it's weak and it's emulators for SNES/GENS use dirty speedhacks, which can result in all sorts of issues in games more obscure than mainstream.

It also can not into N64/Dreamcast/NDS

There are far better options than this.

>>2164794
>>xperia play
That thing is horribly outdated.

>>2166160
>psp can't into proper aspect ratio for many PSX games
You can customize the aspect ratio in the game settings.
>GENS use dirty speedhacks
Use Picodrive you retard

>>2164575

>>2166362
people here are recommending the PSP.

At least the Xperia play is an android device, emultion on it is 1000 times better than on the PSP or the Dingoo, doubles as a smartphone, great buttons, good emulators, you can map any buttons you need other than the basic ones on the screen.

And you can get it refurbished for dirt cheap nowadays, like literally $60

>>2166362

>>2166393
and the best thing, it isn't a dorky chinese android tablet, you can fit it inside any pocket, even your ass if you're into that

>>2164569
YEAH BUDDY. That makes two of us on this board. Love my GCW-Zero. Also just got a Gamebuino. Primary recommendation is Chocolate Doom. It's not on any of the official list of software but still on the googledrive.
http://docs.google.com/folderview?id=0B9EgGumkJaabSE9TaEdFbVVBSlU#list
Way to much baseless negativity toward this device. Surprisingly less on /vr/ through.

Here's those Gamebuinos and my new calculator I got for Christmas.
Got tired of changing the batteries on my TI-83+ and dealing with a non-backlit screen.

>>2164648
The PSP is dead and obsolete. Even a Chinese gaming tablet is better.

>>2166393
>And you can get it refurbished for dirt cheap nowadays, like literally $60

No you can't. On ebay the bids spike up to $120 in the last few minutes.

Some other helpful advice is to get 7zip so you can open and extract OPK files. Get the latest version of Open Package Creator (1.1) to zip those files back up. This comes in handy specifically for the PC-Engine emulator which requires you to add System Card images to the OPK needed for RONDO. Or just learn how to add links in gmenu2x and avoid OPKs completely. Also adding links allows you to run any .dge software for the Dingoo A320.

>>2166427
Holy shit those Gamebuinos are more adorable than the GBA micro. They look uncomfortable to hold though.
>>2166414
>Surprisingly less on /vr/ through.
That's because we're chill as fuck here.
Just don't make a goddamn retron 5 thread.

>>2166463
>They look uncomfortable to hold though.
They are. And so small you go cross eyed and light headed after half an hour. I love it.

>>2166441
>>2166393
Speaking of Android, is there any sort of little portable controller I can plug into my Galaxy S5? The phone emulates N64 so damn nicely, but fucking touchscreen controls ruin it and every solution I've found requires me to root my phone, and I don't want to fuck up my warranty.

>>2166469

The ipega gamed pad is pretty ok for us casuals that emulate on android

>>2166441
You're a faggot who doesn't know how to buy online. Aliexpress. I bought it a year ago for $90, but now they're even cheaper.

>>2164569
Oh, how many MIPS does that mips-chip churn out?

>>2166160
Were you molested by a psp or something?

So is there a half decent portable emulator thing for people that just want to play pretty much everything before the 64? I don't need a unit with sticks like that JXD s5800

>>2166543
The popular choice android due to largest array of hardware manufacturers, highest resolution, and power for the lowest price. Also it has the most developers. The downside is that currently the only ones making droid devices with built in for controls are JXD which aren't sold stateside. Meaning you'll have to order one from China. Like all small operations they have a reputation of hit and miss build quality and little to no customer support.

If you already own a PSP or DS then CFW or DS2 cart are worth checking out. But the downside is these devices are almost a decade old. DS2development scene is dead. Most of the emulators came from weekend competitions and the only ones that are solid are the Nintendo emulators. PSP has a much larger library of software but can struggle on 4th gen games especially ones using FX chips like Starfox and MMX2. The device is a decade old with 333mhz and 64mb of ram.

Linux are my personal preference. They are much more open to customization, but as a downside require much more attention to get running properly. Linux handhelds have a couple branches. The 2 still alive are the Dingoo and OpenPandora(pictured).
The Dingoo development scene is who is behind the GCW-Zero and have moved on to that device, 1ghz MIPS 512ram 320x240 (4:3). $130
OpenPandora comes with a touchscreen, full keyboard, dual analog, 800x480 (5:3), 1ghz ARM Cortex-A8. Personally if I was gonna shell out $400 I would wait for the DragonBox Pyra and play some N64.

>>2166414
The reversed "X" and "Y" position really bugs me.

>>2166608
I thought the OpenPandora stopped development?

>>2166543
JXD S602B.
It runs N64 and earlier perfectly fine. I have one, it slides right into my pocket easily, the joystick doesn't protrude past the buttons. It's a PSP style joystick. Build quality is excellent. I also have the S5800 and S7800 as well as a Shield. I prefer the S5800 because of the screen size and speed though.

>>2166543
Xperia Play, seriously. One of the best things you can get. Small, good buttons, you can map stuff on the screen if you need for older consoles

PSX emulation is flawless in a lot of titles because Sony developed an In-house emulator for it, and works right for most titles.

about 60 bucks refurbished on aliexpress.

N64 doesn't, work well, though

>>2166612
Me too. Would have preferred SNES for retro.
Instead it's like a M$+Ninty half breed.

>>2166612
it's a mix of the Nintendo distribution and the Xbox distribution.

>>2164590
That's funny, that MIPS architecture seems to be all the rage in china.

>>2166626

define speed. All I want is the really old stuff like NES/SNES/GBC/GBA and Genesis. If that little unit can handle those well, then I might have a winner.

What's the battery life?

>>2166625
The parts for the Pandora reached end-of-life, meaning that there was no way for them to continue manufacturing them without a redesign. So they've taken the opportunity to work on a spiritual successor called the DragonBox Pyra.

EvilDragon is doing a much better job of managing the whole thing than Craigix ever did with the Pandora. You can find more information here: http://pyra-handheld.com/

>>2167273
>If that little unit can handle those well, then I might have a winner.
Talking about the GCW-Zero? if so then yes. And don't neglect your TG-16, GBA, NeoGeo, and MAME.
>What's the battery life?
Thing hasn't died on me in a day on a single charge. Took it on a 6 hour flight from Philly to LA. It got low but never died.

>>2167302

Actually I was talking about the JXD S602B.

The GCW looks like a great piece of hardware too, but I don't feel like I need to spend extra money for anything I'm not gonna use, and the GCW is a little overkill for what I want

>>2167304
shoot well I don't have one of those yet

>>2167273
>>2167304
It runs N64 and PS1 at high resolutions much better. The resolution on the 602b is a little low. Besides that it runs everything perfectly with minor slowdown on more intense gba games. There's also an updated version with a higher res availible on the jxd store it looks like for only a few dollars more. So I would go with that.

>>2167757
Also battery life varies depending on what you play. It seems like it lasts a long time. I've gotten at least 10 hours out of mine before. I'm sure it gets better when you close running apps and turun a few things off though. I don't use it enough to really say, it's just a testbed for me.

>>2167757
>>2167761

Thanks buddy, as I said though I'm only concerned with the more basic shit, I'll look into this in the very near future.

I bought an LG Enact phone for muh vidya game emumuhlation porpoises.

I usually experience a little buyer's remorse with every purchase I make, but buying this phone brought none at all. I've been very, very happy with it and its performance.

>>2164569
Well, yes

http://www.cnet.com/products/snail-w3d/

In case you guys missed this.

>>2169389

>Cnet
>ever

>>2169404

I literally just googled the name of the console and copied the first link for reference, you must be very autistic.

>>2169409

Cnet is a pretty horrible place bro, malware up the wazoo.

>>2169409

Also fuck. I thought this was software. Not a console.

Nevermind, that's just a knee-jerk action on my end. The phone looks pretty neato.

>>2169410

I didn't know malware was still an issue, especially for people in a gaming board. Well, sorry I guess.

GP2X (wiz/caanoo) > GCW Zero > Pissdora

Also android cannot into lag-free audio in emulators

>>2169474

Aren't the GP2X devices dead as shit, have no more support, and are hard to find/expensive though?

>>2169474
>have a Caanoo
>lost the charger cable
Why couldn't they just have used USB?

>>2166152

I've heard about many bricked psps and experienced it in the past. Mind you this was during the psp's heyday when the CFW was still in development.

Also even with more current CFW I run into issues with running PSP games among other things... I'm aware that I'm just very unlucky but it's just lame in the first place that you have to backdoor the hardware to make the things worth it's grain in salt.

anyways, my point is that the chinese stuff is where it's at for now.

Playing some romhacks today after watching Mike Matei's review of SM3mix.

Kept this photo at full res to see the 1 to 1 ratio in action.

>>2166427
Are you developing games for the Gamebuinos?
I ordered one to have something fun to do while learning C++.

>>2169802
Looks pretty sweet,il stick to my psp though.

>>2169875
yeah. honestly I can't see why else anyone would want a gamebuino other than to tinker around an play their own games. Unless you just like adorably tiny handhelds or have a fetish for clear plastic shells.

>>2169474
>android cannot into lag-free audio in emulators
False. Its no more laggy thean on the aforementioned devices, and the later Android handhelds are pretty much lagfree

>>2166608
>2001 + 14
>1ghz

>>2169956
True, same think with stuff like the GCW Zero. Just for emulation it's way to expensive, but pro making homebrew it seems nice.
I kinda wish for something like the Gamebuino as powerful as the Gameboy or maybe even Gameboy Color. Monochrome and that resolution seems a bit limited, but I just got it for programming (and maybe tinkering) fun anyway.

>>2169802
How are ps1 games on that thing?
I would ask about n64, but I doubt it runs them above half speed.
Also, is the GBA emulator just another port of gpsp?
I really want one of these but I can't for the life of me justify it.

>>2170213
no PS1. no n64. From GCW website:
>ReGBA is a GBA emulator for the GCW Zero. It is ultimately based on gpSP for the Playstation Portable by Exophase and contains improvements made over the years by Takka and Nebuleon.
>It features audio with under 60 ms latency, optional full-screen scaling, remappable controls on the GCW Zero buttons (but no joystick support yet), an open-source and freely redistributable GBA BIOS replacement by Normmatt, SRAM saving, saved states and fast-forwarding. All settings can be overridden per game.
>The focus of this emulator is on performance. As such, its compatibility may not be perfect. It does, however, run many popular commercial games and homebrew titles.

>>2169965
I have a shit MotoG Only ps1 run as shit( Run well with no audio on epsxe). 16/8bit run well.

>>2169538
you can make one charger out of some samsung cable

>>2169965
>and the later Android handhelds are pretty much lagfree
even shield shits where old lil gp2x f100 was perfect

>>2170532
Try retroarch

>>2170292
Why can't it do ps1? It seems like it had the hardware.
Also emulators focused on performance tend to suck.
Guess I'm not buying this ;.;

>>2170992
It's pretty good for GBA. One of the things that originally drew me to it. $100 cheaper than a rose colored gaming backlit modded GBA. But looks like I'm doing my own 101 backlit mod anyway. Should arrive any day now.

>>2171001
Why not just buy a k1 GBA.
It supposedly has perfect compatibility and is backlit.

>>2171028
never cared for clams

>>2171031
Theres another one that has the standard advance body.
Comes with a flashcart too.

>>2171036
This doesn't look bad for $70.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuhbbNPlo6g
If I fuckup the mod on original hardware I might get one.

What the hell is this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhHIrAAQSfk

>>2164794
>>2164590
>>2164575
I've got a shield.

It's more "Luggage/Backpack/Sportbag" portable and less "Pocket/purse/messenger bag" portable.

But the thing is a DAMN fine emulation device.

>>2166427
>Dat PetitComputer for DS
I ended up writing my first three programs on that thing, I was bored on deployment and my computer was fried. Made a number guessing game, an program that calculated the Fibonacci sequence to the mem-max, and a program that calculated the sum of all numbers between 0 and 1000.

Makes me wonder if someone had put me on programming with BASIC instead of Java as a kid, I mighta stuck with computer science.

>>2171036
That is more a "gemei a330 body" than "standart gba body.

But video out should be awesome for video headset

>>2171362
forgot pic

Cannoo master race checking in. Plebs Can't even play rythymos. The best game ever. Featuring hits like everytime give in to knees.

>>2166638
I had one. PS1 emulation was okay (there's a converter that works pretty well to sideload ISOs into the official one), but the thing was just slow overall. Most other installed emulators would stutter for no apparent reason.
I have a Galaxy S3, which has none of those problems, but it also lacks physical buttons so it's worthless for most emulation.

honestly, mostly just been using my PSP for portable emulation (haven't bothered with SNES on it, didn't even think of trying N64, it has mostly good PS1 emulation other than games that need Redbook audio, and other systems have been okay)

>>2170810
How?

The psp is only good for 8 bit, gb/GBC and ps1
Please stop reccomending it.
Get an nvidia shield, gcw zero or wait for the dragonbox pyra.
Android phones with an ipega controllers are the best bang for your buck.
Hopefully those stupid German fuckers don't ask for 500 shekels this time.

>>2171913
They will and you know it. Also guaranteed production issues.

>>2171935
Then its not going to sell. Just like the openpandora didn't sell.
This isn't 2006. We live in a world where its common to have a quad core >2ghz processor and 2 gigs of ram in your pocket.
500 bucks is the price of a pretty decent laptop nowadays.

>>2171036
it's not a flashcart

>>2172364
Yeah it doesn't work on a real GBA
But for all intents and purposes it is.
The revo thing also supports official carts.

One thing that really sets back the PSP for emulation and homebrew is the lack of OpenGL ES support. It is way easier to write a video game emulator for Android devices because of their OpenGL ES 2.0 support.

>>2171372
also cannot play fleshchasmer

So if I want to play nes, SNES, and GBA games with no speedhacks at full speed and very little sound latency, is the gcw zero for me?
I have a hacked PSP buts its garbage for SNES and GBA.

>>2169474
>Caanoo

I loved mine but being analog only was really stupid.
It was a nice little system overall though. Shame it had a sticky-out analog. Mine broke while being carried round in my bag.

>>2173838
GCW Zero or any of the JXD handhelds would be fine for this.

>>2174002
I already have xperia z ultra that can easily handle retroarch, but for the price of a good controller I can get a gcw that would be a lot more portable that lugging around a controller.
My main gripe with the gcw is that it uses pocketsnes which is just a mess of speedhacks.
Is there a snes9x build for it?

>>2169496
Yes

>>2174053
PocketSNES

>>2174053
>>2174148
Sorry I didn't read anything but the question. PocketSNES is based off snes9x. And from what I can tell all it's got. There was a separate snes9x project I used to have as an emulator on my zero which has some slight differences. Like one had better sound and one ran FX chips better but it appears they merged and updated with the best of both.

>>2174165
Can it run chrono trigger, f zero, and English patched dragon quest and megami tensei games with no frame skip at full speed?

>>2174172
Where should I be looking for slow down? It never dipped in the intro. Might just do a full playthrough because it's been a while.

>>2174172
Full speed no dips. Got a little sweaty on my d-pad. The last race was tough. Squeeked out 2nd place on Silence.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJCmbipfnyA

>>2174256
>>2174281
Thanks for this.
Chrono trigger is pretty uniform in that it'll be slow thought the whole thing on a weak device or bad emulator.
Do the more complex stages in f zero work?
Also, if it wouldn't be too much of a hassle, could you try running some English patched games? Like dragon quest 5 and smt 2.
That would be great.

>>2174302
Here I go. USA. USA. USA.

No speed issues but I've noticed this game uses more screen than the other. I'll get another picture of a battle. But it's from full top to bottom on the device. First SNES game I've seen like that.

>walk out into an open field
>attacked by a weasel farting on a jellyfish

>>2174364
>>2174335
I'm assuming it works.
Thanks a lot.
You should keep playing DQ 5. Fantastic game.
How much and where did you get yours from?

>>2174369
A dear friend of mine who was an avid collector and mountain climber accidently set his tent on fire and fell about a thousand meters off the rock face and landed in a sticker bush. But he was still able to call for help with burns covering 60% of his body. Then on his way to the emergency room the ambulance crashed into a telepole pole and a bystander attempted to carry him to hospital during a blizzard. He fought the hypothermia and made it despite everything that could go wrong going wrong. While at the hospital they learned he had cancer with only a few weeks left to live. He died the next day so I robbed his house, converted the cartridges to roms, then burnt the games during a BBQ where I had made a kick ass potato salad.

>>2166089

mine worked fine.....
until I dropped it ONCE and the screen doesn't work anymore.

I now have a second-hand PSP that I bought for the same price and I like it alot more except -
SNES emulation is really bad. I am perplexed since GBA, Genesis, and CPS1 emulation is great

sometimes turns off for NO REASON if its knocked hard or if I'm moving around alot. It really only annoys me since I use it as a music player while I'm working and its annoying to have to reboot it.

Other than that PSP games and PS1 emulation is a definite plus, and I have an AV-component hookup to play vidya on TV with bluetooth PS3 controllers.

All in all, wish I had bought the PSP first.

>>2174404
Sometimes when you drop a JXD (which you shouldn't do, a contact between screen and it's motherboard gets busted. I'ts an easy fix you can make yourself actually.

>>2174412
I did open it up and checked it out. Everything is super crammed and hot glued up in that motherfucker, and I'm like Cyan when it comes to computer crap.
Honestly I can't tell whats wrong with it, but I assumed that was the problem.

Seriously though, the PSP's quality (mine was also made in China) is just night and day. JXD was also SUPER glitchy with its operating system.

>>2174418
>Everything is super crammed and hot glued up in that motherfucker
POST IT.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QMH-xp-WtI&t=6m17s

>>2174429
lol ok taking pics now ;)

>>2174429

>>2174456

>>2174460
should i keep taking it apart? it has 4 screws on the motherboard. back panel only had 2 screws.

>>2174456
>>2174460
>>2174462
Show me your guts!

Doesn't look half as bad as I was expecting. Thank you.

>>2174465
It LOOKS good. But the shell and buttons feel like they're made out of melted down trash bags and action figures.
It crinkled if you squeezed it and had wierd glitches, but when it worked it was allright. The PSP is a definite upgrade for me, although I'm genuinely bummed about the SNES emulation,

>>2174475
It's a tough spot. Wish I could recommend the Zero but you'd be lacking PS1 emulation. Maybe in a year or two. Either someone will program a decent PS1 emu or some company will make a decent droid machine with buttons. The latter seems more likely.

>>2174497
yeah, it was fun for the $40 i spent on it.
But with the quality of it, the badness of its android operating system, everything is in chinese, and how it generally broke easily I just couldn't recommend it.
A good android system with good controls would be great, and maybe JXD has improved the quality on recent builds.

The "stuck down button" problem that people have isn't related to anything people say it is. If you open it up, you can see a spot of glue over the contact under the down button. Just scratch that off and it works perfectly. Don't fuck around with the lube solutions or pressing the button a million times. It's just some gunk on the contact. You can see it when light reflects off it.

>>2166427
Nice EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEPC. You and I have similar taste in electronics.

Hmm looking at this thread I suddenly had an urge to buy an JXD.

I already have an NDS to I don't need nes, nds gb and gba emulation (that works fine). What I'm looking for is:

* dos games via dosbox
* snes
* genesis

PSX and N64 would be a nice bonus

Seems there's a fuck-o-ton of models to chose from, and not all of them have shoulder buttons. Can you guys recommend something?

I'm also a bit worried about the quality getting mixed opinions in this thread.

Pic related - I want it to play that motherfucker.

>>2177047
Still have that game installed from a thread very similar to this one over a year ago: >>1140924
Poster even used the same exact image.
And I just realized I'm still waiting for handheld Daggerfall.

>>2177647

Yeah that's why the JXD looks cool - you get mouse support through the touch-pad. I'm still not sure about the version I want though and I'll have to browse forums for opinions on the quality.

Also archive.moe only has thumbnails ;/

>>2164839
Because that's something a commie would do.

>>2177047
>>2177898

I ordered a JXD602B. It's gonna take awhile to get here, but I'll totally make another thread about retro emulation handhelds when I get it and play with it a little

>>2166441
>>And you can get it refurbished for dirt cheap nowadays, like literally $60
>
>No you can't. On ebay the bids spike up to $120 in the last few minutes.
I got mine at cowboom (best buy) for $50 in great shape

you're just mentally retarded and think that looking at the first page of ebay Buy It Nows with vague search terms equates to what you should be paying

>>2166463
>>2166414
The main issue with the device seems to be the fact that it's just not worth the price in terms of specs and not very well-built in general. I joined the dingoonity IRC a while back and the guys who made that thing used to hang out there and tbh they're autistic weirdos, wasn't very shocked when the thing turned out rather crappy

>>2178163
>the thing turned out rather crappy
When I was waiting for months for mine and desperately searching for unboxing videos to see what people thought of it. First video I stumbled on was someone shaking the device because he didn't like the way the buttons sounded when he shook it. So when mine finally arrived I shook it and realized mine had the same problem. I was crushed. So then I compared it to other controllers and handhelds and realized that they all make that same exact sound, most louder, when you shake them. Seriously go try it right now and shake a SNES controller. I almost bought into the bullshit. Inflated non problems that give it a bad reputation. That's when I learned to stick to professional reviewers. Here are two semi professional literally whos that give it a fair shake. That was a pun.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHVYQp3NrsI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQGWEZJiSqE

>>2178218
>First video I stumbled on was someone shaking the device because he didn't like the way the buttons sounded when he shook it.
Who gives a shit about something so random and trivial? I'm talking about general build quality issues, dust under the screen, all sorts of things

>>2169965
>>2169474
how many ms is the audio behind on android? everyone says this but I've never seen any real figures or proof

>>2174256
why does this look so beautiful

i dont suppose anyone here has a link for the stuff needed on an sd card to get dingux to run on a dingoo a320? all the links ive found are dead. i just want that better gba emu. im even considering getting the gcwzero if i cant set up this sd card ugh

>>2178103

Thanks, though I wouldn't want this exact model - I'm aiming for at least two shoulder buttons and a resolution that can get at least 480 vertical (so at least 800x480 or 640x480).

>>2178764
The dingux is the old one, maybe you should try opendingux?

pic of the day

>>2164590
>and I ain't buying chinese crap

>>2180382
>>2178764
ah fuck it ill just buy a gcwzero. i have a job so 150$ is nothing to complain about

What are the recommended emulators to use on a GCW Zero? Their official downloads page seems lacking

>>2182141
you gotta read through and search their forums at dingoonity.org. There is a stickied thread in gcw-releases section that lists software and a subsection for emulators. There is also an OPK manager which will list and download software straight to your device from your device. If you still can't find what you're looking for check the emulators or development sections for not yet released stuff.

>>2174537
The badness of most androids (as well as chineese language) is easily fixable with a custom firmware, which is basicaly a must, as it fixes a lot of bugs and improves gameplay stability of the device.

Get one from Dingoonity.

Also my s7800 still works great after a year in use. I didn't put it under any physical stress (like being dropped), but I carried it around with me in a bag for the whole year, and it still works well.

The buttons are still as responsive as ever. The only thing is that the hat of a left stick is freely rotating around its shaft now, but the stick itself works fine.

Actually, I didn't expect it to last this long.

>>2177047
DosBOX is CPU heavy, so you should consider that when you chose a device. Might not be noticable in turn-based games regular gameplay, but the computer opponent turns may take a while in some games.

Also if you like strategies you might also consider getting this:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.eltechs.es
Basicaly put, it's a Wine-like shell ported to android and optimised to run turn-based strategies. Officialy supported games are Heroes 3, Civilisation 3 and Disciples 2, but it can run a lot of unsupported games as well (like Age of Wonders, and basicaly any TBS of that time)
There's also an RPG counterpart that's optimised for Fallout 1-2 and M&M 6-8
It runs exceptionaly well on s7800, but I can't say how it will behave on weaker devices.

Honestly until PS2/Gamecube emulation on portables becomes legit, I don't see any reason to switch from my PSP/Android (for DraStic)

OP here, I didn't realize this thread was still up after more than a week

I now realize that I could have bought a device that plays PS1 era games, and yes, the GCW Zero is overpriced for its specs, but at least the build quality is impeccable and what it does, it does well enough for me (then again, it's still a little bit pricey). I do have a PSP and managed to install a SNES emulator, but it ran like shit (this was a couple years ago when I didn't know shit about this stuff).

Thanks for the help and for being a surprisingly helpful and laid out board (compared to /g/, /v/ etc.). I'll stick around

>>2182465

Thanks for the info man.

I bought this http://www.jxd.hk/products.asp?id=645&selectclassid=009006 now I'm waiting the 10-20 days it needs to ship.

In my wildest dreams I didn't suppose I could play disciples 2 (though I'd like to play the first one two) I though homm2/homm3 might be possible through the source-ports. This is very awesome you've made my day.

I hope it's fast enough for MOM, playing some old dos RTS games like Warcraft 2, or Blood and Magic would be cool too but it ain't a deal-breaker.

>>2169802
Try Zelda Solarus. There's a direct port to the GCW.

>>2182780
>/co/nrad without his fedora and big /vr/o without his glasses doing the dance of their people

>>2182780
>compared to /g/
>going to /g/ for tech support/consumer electronics buyer's advice
your kind is one of the reasons why the board went downhill

>>2169619

>Heard about stuff
>Makes reccomendations with one sided knowledge

Go fuck yourself, the PSP is still the best way to emulate 80% of systems with its cost. Fuck touchscreen gaming.

>>2166365
This nigga gets it.

I decided to mod my 6 years old psp because it was gathering dust, it's now five months later and I'm on /vr/ all the time.

Just used PicoDrive to finish Sonic 3&K Complete btw, thnks to the anon who recommended it.

>>2166461
>>2174256
>>2174281
>>2174335
>>2174364

As powerful as the JXD devices look, you really can't beat a native 240p screen. Fucking gorgeous. Really want a CGW now.

>>2184550
IIRC only NES had 240p
SNES and MegaDrive were 224p

Anyone here one one of the JXD handhelds like the S7800B? How's the d-pad & buttons? The former is very a important factor for me since many of these chink handhelds have absolutely godawful d-pads. If you use RetroArch and custom firmware, how's the performance? I'm desperate for a new handheld for my RA fix since the PSP isn't really cutting it anymore, despite having a potentially superior form factor and build quality.

>>2169619
Bricking is inconsequential now that Pandora's Battery is a thing

>>2185858
The last (since they won't be making any others) JXDs are considered to be the best of chinese handhelds quality-wise.

I have s7300b and s7800b. I know little about how to analyse whether controls are good or not,so I'll speak from personal experience.

I've never had any hardware problems with buttons - no sticking, no sort of malfunctions.
The d-pad has a good distinction between diagonals and directions, it works and feels well, and I have no complaints about it after a year of playing whatsoever. Other buttons are okay except for L2 and R2, that are hard to press for me since they are too far from my short fingers.

In hindsight I think I should've waited a bit longer and buy s5800 since that looks more comfortable to play emulation, but I enjoy some android games and ports too - like GTA3 / LV/ SA and RTCW with Jedi Academy, which are more enjoyable on the bigger display.


Retroarch has godawful interface on the Android as well as quite some bugs and performance issues due to dev's decided to go with accuracy instead of playability in Android fork. It's still good to run some games that do not work well on other emulators. It's laggy in some games on s7300 and fine (when you set it up to suit the game you play) on s7800.

IMO you'd be better with separate emulator for each console, several in case of PSX - due to different emus (ePSXe and FPSe) running different games better. Both work at full speed on both s7300 and s7800

>>2185858
>>2186028 ->continuation
pre-PSX consoles and MAME work at full speed on both tablets.

NDS emulation work fine on both, with some frameskips on 7300 and no frameskip at all on 7800

Dreamcast (Soul Reaver, Sonic Adventure) is slow on 7300 and full speed on 7800 with some bearable frameskipping in heavy scenes.

N64 has framerate drops on both tablets, but on 7800 they are far more bearable. On 7800 games like OOC, Majoras Mask and Turok 2 runs with little to no fps drops, and Turok 3/Conker with some fps drops and slowdowns, though all games are completely (and enjoyably) playable.

Native android games optimised for hardware acceleration are tricky, since Mali-400 is not known for good compatibility. Some games work fine, others run slowly or refuse to run at all. GTA SA, RTCW and Jedi Academy both run fine, and that's what I play most of the time when I'm not emulating. I've heard there's a JXD-like console being developed with Tegra 4 inside (by Sanemax I believe), but it looks quite uncomfortable.
Oh, and you definitely need one of the later custom firmwares from Dingoonity (or 4PDA in my case) to get maximum performance out of the console, as well as rid it of the bugs and unnecesary chinese software.

>>2166160
>cannot into cannot into cannot into
you really don't like psp's

>>2166160
>N64/Dreamcast/
to be fair the pc can't into those either

>>2186704
>N64/Dreamcast
>pc can't into those
u wot nigga?

ded thred is ded

>>2189020

That JXD602B I ordered is almost here. I'll probably post pictures and my thoughts on it when I get the damn thing.

Amazed this thread is still around though, here's hoping it can hold out for a few more days

i had a jxd s7800b but it started to develop random red pixelation randomly on the screen so i returned it and got a nvidia shield that i never play because its bulky and too embarrassing to be seen with. just ordered a neo geo x and i kinda want a gcw zero now too but i can't find anywhere to buy a white one

fug

>>2189037

This guy again, I got the JXD and it feels pretty good in the hands, I don't think I like the emulators that came with this thing very much, they're awfully basic. So I gotta figure out how to install the good emulators on this thing, I think it's a rooted device but I have no idea.

>>2189993

Alright I installed some proper emulators on the JXD, and briefly played Street Fighter 2010 on NES, Megaman X and Super Metroid on SNES, and Mega Turrican on the Genesis. Each of these played just fine for the brief time I played them. I need to get around to sitting down and playing them in depth, but so far I'd say for 60 bucks I'm impressed

>>2190465

Found a pretty fucking obnoxious bug with the JXD 602B: If you put it in sleep mode, one of the cores remains in sleep mode after you wake it up, meaning it can't run shit all afterwards. So if you get one, I suggest you disable the sleep mode and only power it on when you intend to play it, then shut it off.

The downside to this is it takes about around... 15 seconds to boot. Other than that though, I'd still say this is pretty okay piece of hardware for the price.

>>2190739
How does n64 and ps1 run on it? Specifically tomb raider and banjo Kazooie.

>>2190903

I haven't looked into those yet. 64 emulation is generally garbage on everything else so I haven't bothered looking into it, plus the little analogue nub is pretty shitty.

I might look into PSone emulation soon but I'm not holding my breath. I mainly picked this thing up for 2D shit

>>2183832
chill brotendo chill, I was saying you're friendlier than /g/ in general, I didn't go there asking for GCW advice. I only go there for /dpg/ and stupid questions threads

>>2190739
JXD have released their firmware sourcecode after they got the news that their handhelds are popular in western community. That resulted in most of the console's bugs being fixed by fans via flashing it with newer firmwares. I think that the sleepmode problems were fixed at one point, but I may be mistaken.

You should check Dingoonity for a new firmware. Most people say that you should flash it before you do anything else. This one seems to be the latest - goo dot gl/2O2SZe

>>2191329

Anon you're great, thanks man

>>2191329

Okay so I'm reading the instructions here and it's slightly engrish.

Do I NEED to "updata" the stock firmware after using the JXD script?

>>2191989

Oh. Nevermind. the custom firmware doesn't exist anymore.

WELP.

>>2186704
only with the N64, DC emulation is better than N64's

>>2191998
>>2191989
I can't test it, but what about this link:
http://jxdcc.yesigame.com/upload/gujianshengji/S602_V4.0_V70.rar

Source: >>2191329

>>2192413

Okay my other question is: What the fuck is ADB drivers? Googling didn't help me much there.

I should probably take my dumbass questions elsewhere but... fuck

>>2192454
I have absolutely no idea, I'm afraid.

>>2192454
>>2192465
Google, however, has this to say:

http://developer.android.com/tools/help/adb.html
http://developer.android.com/tools/extras/oem-usb.html

>>2192468

Based anon strikes again. I'll look into this shit tomorrow and take a crack at installing the custom firmware, also the JXD's battery life is fairly impressive, even after 7 hours of playing old vidya I got around 25% battery left.

Whether or not the battery will stay this nice in the future remains to be determined but I'm fairly optimistic

>>2182465

Wait will this work on ARM devices? If it's wine it shouldn't work on anything that has a x86* cpu.

>>2192875
If you're about ExaGear stuff - it's basically Wine ported to ARM. So yeah, it works on ARM devices.

>>2192454
I have the driver, don't know if it's the same or not, since I got it in a bundle along with s7800 firmware
goo dot gl/3wiJmT

>>2192471
Many people now forget, or didn't ever knew about the thing called "memory effect". It goes something like this: If you start charging your device when it reaches 20% of power, and do it constantly, preventing it to go below that, those 20% of your battery are going to be 20% charged all the time, without ever going through charged->not charged->charged cycle, and that is bad, because then those constantly charged 20% will start to degrade, diminishing your battery's maximum capacity. The older the battery, the more it prone to that effect. You also should not overcharge the batteries, but modern hardware prevents that, and it's the thing of the past.

You can "shake up" the old battery by charging->discharging it several times in a row, but if it has been affected, it may not completely recover again.

Li-Ion batteries are said to have no such effect, but they actually have a similar effect, but with different physical description (the charge detector starts failing, making battery itself believe it has less charge and provide false data to the device). Result is the same though.

Best way to prevent it - discharge the device completely before plugging it in for a recharge, like making it run a hardware-heavy game and leave it be until it shuts down. This should significantly increase you'r batterys lifetime.

>>2193021

Impressed. Anybody has an idea how does that work? Wine is a library layer not an emulator (says so right in the name).

>still haven't tried my GCW cause NO DRIVERS

fuck this shit

>>2193021

The worst part of this is the device charges whenever you plug it into USB to transfer shit.

>>2193021
Or you could just replace the battery every 5-10 years when it fails if you even give a shit about the device anymore by then.

>>2193021

also when you say you have the drivers, are you referring to PC drivers? I'm assuming that's what I need in order for my PC to recognize the JXD so I can try to install the firmware

This is all so poorly documented and explained, I'm confused as fuck

>>2166608
The DS2X86 MS-DOS x86 emulator is pretty solid. Was pretty awesome to play some old DOS games from my childhood on the go.

>>2193362
What? OpenGL ES 1 and 2 support was added over a year ago.
Are you talking about HDMI and AV out support?

>>2193827
Jetpack is a great handheld game. Used to play that all the time on DSTwo. Patrick Aalto, the DS2x86 dev, built a version for the Zero and documented it's updates. It's an interesting read. He put some real love into it.
http://zerox86.patrickaalto.com/zblog.html

>>2193687
Yeah PC drivers, and yeah it is very poorly documented. I ended up using wi-fi connection, works like a charm.

>>2194884

how'd you wind up using wi-fi for that? Please help my retard ass make sense of this.

>>2193687
Normally, when you plug an Android device in your PC it is recognised either as a digital camera or other retarded device (Samsung phoneblets), or as a generic USB drive you can drop files to/from.

ADB drivers (Android Debug Bridge) allow you to access the device not as a USB drive, but as it's own device, allowing you to write into it's internal memory and thus replace the firmware with your own.

Basically put:
1)Install the ADB drivers
2)On Android enable debug through USB in Settings > Developer options
3)Plug your device in PC, and when connected select the new USB debug option instead of usual "connect as a storage"
4)Install the firmware (there should be instructions on what exactly you should run that came with the firmware).

If that does not help - ask Dingoonity.