/vr/ - Retro Games

Goldeneye TC is cool.

>>2167502

Doom is very cool. I've been playing Style, and working on the VRoomer's armory

Inadequate Doom thread.
Please disregard.
Real Doom Thread will be up shortly

You find some weird shit on idgames.

You could've at least used the OP Copypasta

>>2167510
>vroomer armory

Elaborate? Sounds neat.

>>2167529
i'm glad it's gone, it was out of date and full of rubbish.

>>2167530

It's an experiment I'm doing, it's that weapon list seen here http://pastebin.com/LXncJ9aX

and weapons seen here: >>2165746

and here: >>2163820

>>2167502
Shouldn't you put the pastebins and stuff on the OP?

>>2167536
>the shotgun should be a staple in that being a simple, potent weapon

That feels very strange, arbitrarily picking the shotgun as to be the "normal" weapon. You could easily make the same argument in regards to a pistol, an assault rifle, or a rocket launcher in that they "should" be a staple.
What makes the shotgun so special that it should get special treatment?

>>2167547
Shells are only the most abundant ammo type in the main IWADs and the vast majority of PWADs. That probably has something to do with it.

TRUE THREAD HERE
>>2167548
>>2167548
>>2167548

>>2167554
>True

By whose standards? We've already got people in this thread and we're already in the middle of a discussion.

>>2167554
This thread is fine. The organized OP is hardly a necessity to talk about Doom and Doom accessories.

>>2167557
because we have to have the OP and News

>>2167547

Doom is a game about Demons and shotguns. Plus Doom 1's shotgun is like your bread and butter weapon, it's something you can come back to at nearly any point of the game and it's valid.

Shotgun is love, shotgun is life.

That being said I want a weapon somewhere else here in the Vroomer's armory that uses shells somewhere... I think one of the energy based weapons here I'm gonna add a leech altfire that gives cells

http://www.best-ever.org/download?file=push-v0.6b.pk3

Updated Push.

11 new levels, bloody hell. I thought making a megawad in just a week was crazy, here it's been only a little over a month and we're already at double that time.
I thought things would be settling down a bit, but nope--people keep submitting shit in gusto. For every map I've accepted, about two more were rejected.

Server's up at
:: [BE] Montreal :: Push Me, and then Just Shove Me

>>2167547
>>2167549
>>2167564

there's also the fact that doom popularized the shotgun
and the ssg quickly became one of the biggest weapons in gaming

anon has it right, doom is about shotguns
hell, fps games as a whole are probably about shotguns

>>2167549
>Shells are only the most abundant ammo type in the main IWADs and the vast majority of PWADs. That probably has something to do with it.
This right here
In the majority of IWADS/PWADS majority of the fucking time you'll have more shell ammo given to you than any other type of ammo, and when it comes to chaingun ammo the damn thing just eats it up like a fat kid with a box of cookies, same with the cell and rocket ammo as well because you don't get as much as you want, and quite freakly because of this the shotgun/SSG just feels more dull after a long time of having to use it all the time because the other weapons don't have that much ammo just laying around for you at all, but not only does it have that much more going for it a small pick up of 4 fucking shells gives you enough to kill multiple zombies and more than often enough to take out a imp with just one shot, good luck with doing that with picking up a
>clip

well okay, posting here then.
also HALP

>>2167587

HELLO

>>2167587

>>2167569
This post has been blessed by the god of shotguns. Great shells and huge demons will come to you, but only if you post "thank you, Benellus, the god of shotguns".

http://www.goaltycoon.com/bestfootballgame/KouD
best football manager &

>>2167587
What is that? AAAHH!!! Real Monsters! - The wad?

>>2167565

Oh also there's a drawing gun in it, since a lot of people have been taking Push as a multiplayer MSPaint simulator.

http://a.pomf.se/ccsunq.webm
Not totally sold on this sound, but the more I listen to it the more it grows on me. Opinions?

Carmageddoom

>>2167617
how?

Be advised.

This are placeholders. I'm learning how to make proper buildings using 3d floors so, you know, enter and eat some sushi. Or burgers. Or buy a chaingun at a toy store. Or buy a berserk kit at a drug store. Or the new HDoom magazine.

>>2167664

YO

YOOOOOOOO


DUDE

>>2167620
The Doom level is part of a special Carma pack with a lot of content from other games.
http://www.moddb.com/mods/carmageddon-special-edition

>>2167664
these are not bad actually

doom gives me motion sickness, anyway to fix that?

>>2167692
Have you tried turning down movebob? I can't stand the vanilla setting.

>>2167692

>>2167692
>>2167696
also try increasing framerate (turn on uncapped framerate) and/or change field of view. i read an interesting article once that suggested if you sit a long way from the screen your field of view should be less, and conversely.

>>2167684
if that's the case, they've done a neat job in >>2167617 accurately reproducing doom's look.

So I had a proxy enabled a while ago, and forgot to disable it. Thus I was banned from 4chan a few hours ago.

>>2167713
It still lacks proper shadowy areas though. I plan on porting E1M4 to C1 correctly (pic shows C2) so I'll have to cut these shadows into the mesh.

>>2167692
Is it the up and down motion when you're running? If you're on zdoom/gzdoom/zandronum, you can mess with your viewbob setting in the console. The default's 0.25, see how it feels after lowering it.

Workin on dat chaingun replacement, the altfire's gonna be a little slower once I get further into this, and it's going to have a unique effect on hit due to how many cell-based weapons will be present, said altfire is gonna consume a shell to shoot too.

Also I took a whack at frankenspriting. Not bad if I do say so myself

>>2167770
I think it's that, dI'm using gzdoom, trying to find the console command.

>>2167808
movebob 0

>>2167809
thank you

Guys, can you recommend me some good co-op wad with relatively short maps?

>>2167818
Nice gif, Shivers

>>2167825

except I'm not him

>>2167836
Nice gif anyway, whoever you are

>>2167818
>Sawn-off
>CALEBHANDS
is that a blood reference? Looks nothing like Blood though

>>2167818

>filename

yeah, hopefully i'm not the only one growing a little bit tired of seeing them everywhere

>>2167818
Somehow it makes me think of DMC.

>>2167818
Why is everyone replying to this gif?

>>2167508

looks too bosic

>>2167764

Porting Carmageddon to Doom. That's what I call being a genius!

After a long mapping pause, I'm almost done with my E1M4 for my Udoom Episode 1 replacement!
If I stop being lazy as fuck I might be able to finish my episode this year x)

>>2167664
Textures from River City Ransom EX? FPS RCR would be cool.

>>2167502
I've been playing Duke Nukem 3D, since it's in the Humble Bundle and I've never played it before. It's a fun game though, and brutally hard. I can definitely see why it was the blockbuster hit it was.

>>2167978

Very good game even if the whole game is not that fun though, some maps bored me and fights were some kind of random and I think Doom still has a better, smoother gameplay.

>>2167963
Like this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xPfBiG5fu8

>>2167978
It's definitely a classic, and the soundtrack is a masterpiece, but personally I find the large amount of hitscan enemies tiresome. I'm also a weirdo who likes the space episode particularly well, and people generally say it's the weakest of the default three.

Age of Empires 1. I can't git gud at it. Whether I turtle up as a Babylonian or try rushing the enemy early game as a Assyrian or Yamato, I get my ass kicked.

I've noticed that 2 CPU civilizations will always declare me an enemy in the beginning, while one will stay neutral for a while before attacking. Should I try to ally with them, or crush them before they attack me?

>>2168038

I also like the 2nd episode a lot, I really love the music there, and I really wanna use it for some night tech maps.

>>2167983
Duke's gameplay blows Doom out of the water. Doom is slow as hell. Apart from your movement, everything else in the game is slow as balls.

>>2168101
True, but I find myself playing doom a lot more.

yo

what hud is this?

hey whats mods are recommended to work with knee deep in zdoom?

>>2168150

Looks like the traditional Doom HUD with a reskin.

>>2168150
Looks like back to staturn x perhaps, unsure I usually have small huds on because reasons

Is there any website where I can find custom doom resources like textures, sprites, sounds, etc. ?

>>2168197

http://realm667.com/

>>2168206
>>2168193
Also, ZDoom forums, which are full of people making new content every day, which is less likely to be used by someone (yet).

>>2168193
Definitely not BTSX which has green digital readouts (unless buttsex 2 has a new one)

>>2168038
E2 is the episode that, for me, proves Duke is more than a goofy macho action hero and actually has some serious undertones.

>>2168374

is the same one compared to episode 1

but that's not the one in the picture

>>2168150
btsx_e2's looks like this. the one in your picture... it looks like something Mechadon would do

Someone care to help this anon from another thread out?

>>2167606

>>2168424
I'm pretty sure it got linked in the last thread, but it's a japanese thing called D-Radys. http://onomutilok.blog.shinobi.jp/doom/%E4%BB%8A%E6%97%A5%E3%81%AEd-radys_229

>>2165141

And of course, of all people, it had to be the Michael Bay of Doom modding who starts the trend. I'm willing to bet that not even Sarge would add something graphic-wise that excludes half of his followers from his already gfx-heavy mod.

>>2168430

yeah that's the one

>>2168435
just finished Balls deep in the damned, is it weird that I find the H-Doom Pinkies more intimidating than the normal gorilla pigs?

>>2168206
>>2168372
Thanks.

>>2167684
Die Anna was so qt.

also lol at the butcher from blood there

gotta love these old mods

>>2168448
The spectre versions are fuckin speedy. If you get cornered by those, you're boned (heh).

>>2168464
it's not just that I actually feel a bigger tenseness from hearing their wake up lines than the nomral roar

does anybody know where can i download the original demos for doom/doom ii?

also, there's no mention of ROTT in the faq; i feel this is a gross oversight, given tom hall's involvement with both it and doom. someone should fix that.

>>2168507
If I'm not mistaken, Doom II never had a shareware demo. Doom's shareware is doom1.wad, and since it's shareware, you should have no difficulty finding it online for free legally.

>>2168510
no, not the shareware version of the game. i'm looking for the .lmps that played in the retail version of the game.

>>2168479
>NOTHIN PERSONNEL, UR JUST IN MY WAY

Still my favorite of the Hdemons though

>>2167502
OP is a revenant.

DOOM THREAD / RETRO FPS THREAD - Last thread >>2156394
(We mainly talk Doom, but Unreal/Duke/Quake/Marathon/whatever are also welcome! Let's post like gentlemen)

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IRC (Password is in the FAQ.)
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===WHERE DO I GET WADS?===

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##Our WADs can be found here!##
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===POPULAR MODS===

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200 Minutes of /vr/: http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?id=17781
Demonsteele: http://zandronum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=5302
GMOTA: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=742401
HDoom: http://hdoomguy.tumblr.com/tagged/hdoom
Metroid Dreadnought: http://zandronum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=4561
Push: http://zandronum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=5423
The Space Pirate: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=37064

Other:
Doom RPG: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=33292
DoomRL Arsenal: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=37044
Hideous Destructor: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=12973
Shut Up And Bleed: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=47302

>>2167502
===NEWS===

[12-27] Refrigerator Magnets: http://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1332124

[12-26] In acknowledgement of its increasingly inaccurate date-based title, Slaughterfest 2013 has officially renamed to Slaughterfest 3. It seems to be a slow news week, or I am not looking hard enough.

[12-26] The /newstuff Chronicles #470: http://www.doomworld.com/php/topstory.php?id=4300

[12-24] Accessories to Murder "bleeding edge" version moves to Github, has dual wielding for pistols, new RL sprite and some new monster behavior: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=36877

[12-22] Strife VE 1.2 update: http://steamcommunity.com/games/317040/announcements/detail/215376355260428922

[12-22] New HDoom features http://hdoomguy.tumblr.com/post/105844089822 http://zombie-nsfw.tumblr.com/post/105843041741

[12-21] 32in24-14 single player: http://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1330738

[12-18] Threshold of Pain II Act 2: http://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1067497

[12-17] Doom Forever update: http://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1329812

[12-16] Some modern gaming news site mentions the Cacowards: http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2014/12/16/cacowards-2014-doom-awards/

[12-16] Vile Shatters update: http://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1329566

[12-15] Looper beats Doom 2 in 21:55 http://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1329250

[12-15] Shut Up And Bleed thread/download: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=47302
- DISCLAIMER: This mod has nothing to do with 4chan.

[12-14] DECK (Doom Engine Creators Kit) considers crowd-funding: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=800876#p800876

[12-13] Five Rooms Of Doom possibly final release: http://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1328772

[12-12] 1993res, "a wad-ified collection of unused doom art": http://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1328580

[12-11] Brutal Doom v20 beta release: http://www.mediafire.com/download/h49ahv6jy2go9ft/brutal20testdec10b-2014.zip

[12-10] Cacowards 11: http://www.doomworld.com/21years/

===

Please reply to this post with news.

>>2168517
>>2168521
>>2167554
fuck you, next time do the thread once we hit page 7 or deal with whoever does it for us instead

>>2168514

the .lmps are there, in doom.wad or doom2.wad, you just need to stop playing in a sourceport that is incompatible with them (zdoom and the like)

they will play fine in prboom+

>>2168529
thank you.

Heretic > Doom 1

>>2168529
Cry about it.

>>2168529
>>2168538
Oh and FYI, I'm not the guy who tried to make another thread. And instead of bitching at me for adding info, you should be thanking me.

>>2168539
>And instead of bitching at me for adding info, you should be thanking me.

Cry about it.

>>2168537
k

>>2168539
>you should be thanking me.

>>2168574
reddit plz go

>>2168586
9gag pls go

>>2167502
>>2168517

guess i'm the only still playing actual doomrl here? oh well... finally had some luck with a scavenger build, and killed the spiderbrain, but with a piercing chainsaw because i found an invurnerability orb next to the stairs. that was probably the only reason i won?

ran out of medpacks when i almost got kill at mt erebus even with cerebus boots. tried to play with the lava and a regular shotgun to keep the demons back but couldn't get enough knockback. level 23 had no medpacks at all.

>>2168665
Next time, if at all possible, try to bring a nuke to the spider mastermind fight, it'll be fun.
You can survive it by being invulnerable when it goes boom.

Can anyone recommend some particularly good weapons mods?
I'm playing through some maps and the vanilla weapons just don't feel right for them.

>>2168665
another screen of muh journey to hell. arachnotrons(sp?) in spider's lair was stupid easy to kill at pointblank range with a tripe-tech modded chaingun.

think i should build the cerebus boots more often. they're more useful than tactical boots in lategame where there's lava and barrels everywhere.

>>2168670
yea. i know there's secret john level. the only 1 time i found a bomb and managed to bring it to the spidermind, i forgot to use the lava element before it blew up.

>>2168680
try megaman 8-bit doom for the "retro" feels?(and 86! weapons) i dunno.

the doomrl arsenal mod lets you "mod"/customise your weapons. also includes some weapons from quake i believe.

>>2168665
i uninstalled doomrl after successfully finishing the 100levels-mode once by sheer luck. everything after that could only disappoint me.

>>2168681
Shit, I should reinstall that.

Eh, I'll do it tomorrow.

Does anyone know how to get in contact with ijon/stapler-san? I want to ask permission to use some code from dakka but he's not active on the zandro forums anymore.

>>2168734
ijon =/= stapler-san

go on irc, he's sometimes on there though not lately

can someone tell me why the jew heads are not spawning after i go into the room before HAPPENING in /pol/.wad

>he still does angled weapon sprites!

>>2168771
>He cares more about the angle of the sprites and not the quality of the work!

>>2168776
>>2168776
>and not the quality of the work!

which pretty often comes clashing like a motherfucker because the lightning on the gun and the hand doesn't fucking match at all

and don't get me started on modern rips that use hands that aren't even well-proportioned

>>2168782
If a spriter couldn't make it look good angled then it wouldn't look good centered anon.

>>2168797

opinions

>>2168809
Is centered genuinely easier to work with?

Doom's weaponry do have angled sprites in there for the shotguns and fists, there is also lighting for the chaingun.

Not to mention many modern weapon mods have things like reloading and such so angle sprites will still pop in there.

I like angled and centered sprites, all that matters to me is that they look nice and the weapons are satisfying to use.
I don't like the Shadow Warrior shotgun sprite though.

>>2168771

Cry more so that I may feed off your impotence.

>>2168825

trying to make me cry while posting THAT mess of a gun that only one mod uses it?

>>2168828

Keep going. More.

>>2168517
Now that's more like the past doom threads.

>>2168825

>the city of ijon tichy

>>2168817

Consistency is major for me. Weapon mods that mix center and angled (extreme angled/weapons, not just stuff like fists/kicks/etc) really annoy me.

>>2168836
Most decent mods don't mix angled and center sprites at least.

>>2168153
kdizd doesn't go well with any mods as it adds new weapons which break most mods.

>>2168771
>>2168776
I'm perfectly fine with either angled and centered weapon sprites. As long as weapon mods arent using both

>>2168836
This, this is what matters, angled or centered are both fine (if done well), but you can't really mix them, you must be consistent.

Now, say, you have a mod that's done with centered weapons, you can still have angled frames for reloading and stuff, like in Accessories To Murder, where the gun is brought to the side of the screen to reload, that just gives you a better look at the gun and I think that's a good way of doing it.

>>2168952
ahh darn, sorry the vanilla weapons sounds just... don't do it for me anymore

>>2169038
lemme open KZiZD in slade real quick and see what needs to be done in order to allow it to be more accomodating.

>>2167616
Seems okay for the single shot I think.

>>2169058
>>2169038
Slap Perk's enhanced vanilla sounds on it, that oughta do the trick.

>>2167616
That muzzleflash is really really tiny.

The sound is okay but the shotgun guy shotgun sound sounds way more beefier.

>>2168537
Nope. level design was bad, especially in episode 2. Makes Sandy Petersen's maps look great in comparison.

I do like the music, though.

>>2167569
>anon has it right, doom is about shotguns
hell, fps games as a whole are probably about shotguns

i'd extend this principle to rocket launchers as they are equally satisfying, if less practical and "trusty" than shotguns

the connection being they are both front-loaded burst weapons with a nice punchy aesthetic and feeling of power, thus making them player favorites in no time

>>2167616
Muzzleflash could be beefier, it's sawed off (or at least short barreled), so a lot of propellant would blow out and burn in the air, as for the sound, it sounds less like you're shooting a short 12-gauge and more like you're shooting a short .410, like a medium sized pistol or something, doesn't exactly give off the impressive BOOM of a short shotgun.

The gun also looks too static when shooting, it doesn't recoil or anything, if you made the muzzleflashes a bit flashier, made them animate faster (less tics), and made the gun recoil one or two pixels downwards after the flash, it would look way better. Also, it's not a bad sound in itself, I'd quite like it on a fitting weapon, but it doesn't quite convey the loud boom of a sawed off shotgun.

>>2168521
Viking Mod has a 0.4 release now and a Zdoom Forums post so that I can stop spamming it here in every thread.

>http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=47512

dunno if such blatant shilling really counts as news, though.

>>2168825

>Ijon's scrappers

aw yeh, dats it mane

>>2169182
>dunno if such blatant shilling really counts as news, though.
it's fine by me. but i personally would prefer it if you avoided terms like "shilling" and others that have been run into the ground by certain other boards. no offence intended.

>>2169207
it makes perfect sense to release a very early version of a mod here. if it's shit, you might get your ego bruised a bit but there's no lasting damage to your reputation. if it's good, you get to work out early kinks before announcing it in the wider community, avoiding damage to your name. /vr/ also benefits from being more bleeding edge than other forums.

>>2167547
Because even though an assault rifle would be more versatile, shotguns are very much a Doom thing, Doom has always had shotguns.

>>2168825
What mod is that?

>>2169241

Dakka

>>2169242
Need more dakka. No exceptions.
Also links.

>>2169245

http://www.best-ever.org/download?file=dakka-0.06alpha6-2.pk3

Load in Zandronum, ijon never really cared to make his stuff Zdoom friendly.

>>2169182

It's not shilling Viking bro, you're just sharing your work with everyone. You're among friends here.

Hey, guys, now that Push is out I'm gonna be getting back to work on DemonSteele. I've still got a massive and hefty to-do list to tackle, but right now I'd like to get a feel for priority.

What would you say are your biggest problems/issues that you have with the mod, at the moment?
Is there anything that you would really like to see in it?

>>2169957
My biggest problem is the sword.

I love how the slashes feel.
I love the sound
I love the power and specials.
I dislike that attacking with it is only flailing about.

I wouldn't mind seeing either a special slash or two or something that just gives it more than rapid flailing.
Think Shadow Warrior's sword.

It had flailing about but it also had the charge hits and then the Ki moves.

This is quite literally the only problem I have with the mod.
I think it's kind of a big problem because I use the sword almost exclusively

>>2169957
>biggest problems
Souls only coming from sword attacks is complete bullshit. Doom is a game about guns, there should be a reward for guns.

>like to see
All anime need a rival character. TSP and GMOTA are coming with second characters, maybe DS as well?

Anyone have a complete version of Hexen's Heresiarch star map sprite as a .png?

>>2169991
If souls came from guns then grenade spam would let you get lots of souls on hordes of weaklings.

Also it wouldn't make sense for holy weapons to steal souls

>>2169957
>biggest problem
Iron Savior has no jump kick attack.

>>2169991
what if the other character was all GUNS HO, at the expense of melee combat? like, jung is primary sword, secondary guns, but the alternative character is primary guns, secondary sword.
of course, at the point i'm asking myself why i'm not just playing vanilla doom/duke instead.

>What would you say are your biggest problems/issues that you have with the mod, at the moment?
* Difficult to tell combo levels apart since they're all just differing variants of white.
* It's seemingly random as to what decorative objects can be destroyed and what can't. This really shouldn't be halfassed, especially since it's effectively random how many of 1 prop a mapper puts in their map.
* Why the fuck isn't there proper player sprites yet?

>Is there anything that you would really like to see in it?
* Special attacks for guns.
* Better special attacks for Iron Maiden. Spin kick is all right, Iron Maiden is about smashing things and suddenly disecting everything with a kick is "what the fuck". The chopping front kick is also completely out of place.

Like >>2170003 said, it NEEDS a jump kick attack. Preferably with explosions.

>>2169982

On the ZDoom forum, one lad suggested different attacks depending on your dash movement--forward attack delivers a powerful slice, side dash attack is a multiple-hit wide slash, etc.
Theory: Debuff main sword attacks (not by much, maybe 5 damage or so) but implement a counter of how many hits in a row you land. The more hits you land, the stronger the dash attack as a finisher?

>>2169991

I'm not fond of the idea of people being able to grab souls willy-nilly, especially since as >>2169996 said it would make the AoE attacks disgustingly powerful.
Still, I'll implement it as a cvar, just for you, anon.

>>2170003
>>2170012

Heehhhh. I'm down with changing Iron Maiden's specials to be more punchy. The basic idea of the specials is to be more AoE compared to the fire's single strikes, but Iron Maiden doesn't really have that problem because its normal attacks are already AoE.

So let's say forward special is explosive punch, in air it becomes an explosive jump kick. Side specials are still the spin kicks, but enemies explode into gibs rather than get decapitated.
What would back special be? Still the same?

>>2169991
>>2170006

If I do a secondary character (IF), one thing I think might be good would be all the more technical things that people ask for.
Combo systems, DMC styles, more complicated weapon mechanics, a Jojo stand, etc. Hae-Lin would be good for instant-action style, but the secondary character would need to balance between choosing what style would be appropriate for an encounter, and then linking combos together?

>>2169982
Oh yeah Side special is really not very good.

Think about it like this:
>Forward special annihilates everything except for Cyberdemons/Masterminds
>Back special deals with hordes of weak enemies and blocks projectiles
>Side special.. Hurts a little but not enough since it can't kill Revenants or Hellknights

And don't get all on me about it's circular range, one back special beats it at the range game with ease.

>>2170021
You might have to cut the dash range down a bit to make those finishers something you can aim consistently.

But yes this would sword flailing more involving because suddenly your movement comes into play on how you kill monsters.

Addendum to your theory: Make the forward dash slash into Dante's Stinger move

>>2170021
I really don't see how a Stand could work in a Doom mod.

>>2170026
>about it's circular range
doom explosions are square

>>2170021
>DMC styles
royal guard please

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvOCKmB--NM

>>2170026

I can tone down forward special a bit and buff up side special, sure.
Would increasing its range help any?

>>2170032

Hmm. Theoretically I could make it when you hit the fire your dash comes to an instant slowdown, so that way you can control it with little short dashes; people who just want to maneuver can still have the long dash.

The easiest way would be checking to see if the button was held or tapped but GOOD LUCK RECOGNIZING THAT IN ONLINE PLAY

>>2170037

Well, keep in mind this is still theorycrafting and isn't guaranteed in any way, but
>No Iron Maiden-esque item
>instead, Use Inventory summons a Stand that very slowly drains soul meter
>Stand follows player obsessively like buttshield/Sentinel
>gun attacks make it shoot out swords or glass shards or whatever
>melee attacks wrap around the player's arms for stronger punches/weapon strikes/whatever
>special attacks utilize the stand in different ways (forward special is a shoulder ram, back special is oraoraoraoraora, etc?)
>it taking damage doesn't hurt the player, but does drain the soul meter
>can "release" it to make it wander around on its own and fight enemies on its own like a dumbass allied monster, then summon it back to by your side when it's done

>>2170039

I'm not sure how Royal Guard works precisely (remember, I've barely played any DMC), but a quick glance at the wiki says it's about blocking/soaking blows?
That would be extremely easy to adapt, with just a little tweaking of the current blocking system. When the blocking projectile is destroyed, it gives an item to the player that can be channeled into either better blocking or more powerful attacks.
I really like the idea of blocking a Cyberdemon's rocket, absorbing its fire, and then putting it all into one devastating gunshot.

>>2170037
>Gun in one hand
>Second button does stand moves
>Two modes for stand

>First mode the stand is attached right next to you, compliments your attacks in whatever way
>Can do special moves directly in front of you

>Second mode the stand operates alongside of you but is a seperate entity
>Has it's own moves and attacks
>Damage the stand takes applies to the player
It's rough and sketchy as hell but it's an idea.
Good luck getting this shit to work with DECORATE though.

>>2170037
>>2170059
>>2170060
>Stands named after singers and bands is now suddenly the most appropriate thing

I really hope this idea becomes reality.

>>2170059
>I can tone down forward special a bit and buff up side special, sure.
>Would increasing its range help any?
I actually think this would only be a straight downgrade across the board

Side special isn't very good as is. It has very very poor damage output.
I think with more range it would still be pretty irrelevant for a couple of reasons.

The first one is that you can not really dash into a group to kill everything. You're pretty much always working along the outer edge of hordes. And if you jump spin slash it seems to cut the damage.
This is why forward special will be the preferred choice even with a damage cut.

Another issue with it is that for any enemy that isn't dead you are now caught on several sides at once in a bit of a disadvantage. Not sure how to address this.

A damage boost to it and a range boost would help but I think forward special will just end up being the preferred choice by it's design.
So how about this:
Turn the forward slash into a piercing shot instead. Instead of a wide wave it could be a narrower wave made to wreck shit in a line.
Yes it's kind of a rip of what Shadow Warrior's Ki strike setup but it did keep the three Ki strikes all relevant to the end.

This would give all specials it's own sort of niche. Right now there's overlap between side and forward.

>>2170067
Having a stand named Highway to Hell is fucking sweet though.

Speaking of stands The second season starts today.

>>2170059
The most important thing about this Stand user is that please make the Stand user a girl

>>2170060
As long as you can drop a giant construction vehicle on a cyber demon as a super im all for having a stand in Demonsteele.

>>2170089
>Highway to Hell
>King Nothing
>Holy Diver
>Rattlehead
>Lamb of God
>Sweet Revenge
>Hocus Pocus
>Excalibur
>Grave Digger
>Damageplan
>Accuser
>Agonizer
>Screaming Ghost
>The Skull Collector
>Immortal
>Judas Priest
>Tyrant
>The Hellion
>Mrs. God
>Manowar
>Sister of Mercy

>>2170080

That's a very good point. This'll take a bit of work to fiddle with.
Being a ripoff of Shadow Warrior isn't really a concern to me since that's basically what DemonSteele is anyway, with every cliché 90s metal album mixed in for good measure.

>>2170090

Sure, why not? I like boobs.

>playing Barrels o' Fun in DOOM II
>mfw

>>2170127
Did you have fun?
I had fun but then the barrels had nothing to do with the middle of the level.

I would have liked more barrel gimmicks.

>>2170059
You could turn the big dash into a multidash.

Instead of one big boost you could have 1-3 small boosts that can be done in rapid succession.

Maybe make the finisher you do change between each one?
I'm thinking a mix of DMC's trickster dashes and Hagane's flips, don't mind me

>>2170154
>I'm thinking a mix of DMC's trickster dashes
Not him, but reading your post I was thinking of Nero's tablehopper.

>>2170176
Well the difference between the two is Nero's tablehopper is done on a last second dodge while Trickster's triple dashes are whenever you want.

Help me, /vr/oom.
I've been playing Mayan Mishap and it's great so far but now I'm completely fucking stuck on map 2. I flip a switch in this courtyard which lowers an elevator which takes me through a series of rooms, then the final room just ends with no switches, keys or anything. Looking at the level in Doombuilder didn't help either. Am I retarded?

>>2169957
Hitscan enemies, they don't mesh well with arcade-style health system. Maybe you should turn them into projectile enemies, a la Action Doom 1?

>>2170205
Whoops, I am huge retard

>>2170192

Remember that room with the Mancu and the Arachnotron in the far right? If you look through the "windows" you might see another structure where you killed an imp before. There's a switch inside that thing, so pull your pistol and shoot it. It will open the far left section, but prepare your SSG for what's to come.

Really great mapset, you're in for a good challenge

>>2170294
Goddammit I knew it was going to be some stupidly simple thing like that. Thanks for the pointer.
Archviles need to git gud

>>2169991
>TSP and GMOTA are coming with second characters

from what I understand both of those are dead in the water

>>2170294
if that's not part of a secret area, i think it's a bit obfuscated

>>2170317
You understand wrong.

>>2170317

You understood wrong, KNAVE. I'm currently working on the Cacodemon replacement, the Red Wyvern

>>2170318

Why? If you're looking for ammo when playing that map, you will inevitably reach for that small bunch of clips where >>2170297 is located, and more often than not you will kill that imp and take a glance at that switch.

There's a couple of moments where you don't know what to activate in order to get to do something, like killing the Plutonia-ish archvile in MAP01

>>2170317
tsp is functionally dead as in no releases for years. occasional screenshots don't count. gmota isn't dead in that sense but it seems the author is content to merely tweak the existing weapon set rather than do the greater amount of work to create an entirely new character. am i wrong

>>2170341
>years
It's barely a year old anon.

>>2170317
>GMOTA
>dead in the water
there was a release literally a month ago
how the fuck is that dead

>>2170336
in general i think a far-off shootable switch is usually only for secrets and not necessary to exit a map.

however i can't debate this reasonably as i haven't played the map, maybe the switch is obvious enough in this case, as i said i've not played mayan mishap but i have played other maps by tango and they're not usually beset by obscure progression. you can't assume too much from a screenshot+some words after all

>>2170341
>but it seems the author is content to merely tweak the existing weapon set rather than do the greater amount of work to create an entirely new character. am i wrong

You're wrong there. Right now my top priority is finishing up all of the monsters, then work on Kuros will begin.

Admittedly I keep fucking tweaking Blaz's weaponry and mechanics because I'm an indecisive little spaz. But this is my first real project so I'm still green with all this. Just buckle up and hold on because the end result should be worth it as long as I have a few more experienced people hanging around to give me a slap on the back of the head if I stray too far

>>2170360
yes i suppose i should have said content instead of something as specific as weapon set.

>>2170360
yes i suppose i should have said content instead of something as specific as weapon set. but your webms are usually of the form "hey check out this neat new weapon effect i just invented" so it seemed that was where all the work was going.

>>2170364

I'm doing other stuff alongside fucking around with some extra visual effects. I've just been polishing and tweaking shit here and there as I added the Xdeath for living armors and started work on the Wyverns.

The worst part of all this however is there's two more gameplay changes that're going to happen in the near future, the crash hammer -IS- going to become a subweapon, and shining knight is no longer going to be something players start with

Been playing Going Down. It's pretty fun, but I'm not sold on the music.

http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?file=levels/doom2/Ports/megawads/gd.zip

>>2170412

Hah, yeaaahh, not everyone is fan of the music but you gotta take into account who made this and what does he do outside of the community. It has its very own style.

>>2170412
Cyriak got this weird style of music that is designed to go with his videos, not on its own
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAvS1ndtEKg

>>2168713
dayum. you got more patience than me. doesn't doomrl-guy max his XP level at 25 only?

>>2168696
brought another bomb to spidermind, but didn't beat lava pits because couldn't find any suits.

a marine with maxed out tanking traits is hardass. spidermind's chaingun did only 10%+ damage per volley,with a blue armor on? it did more melee damage to me for some reason. maybe it could fire its chaingun at pointblank?

This shit is fun.
Loving the map architecture too.

just a reminder that the doom skies were originally meant to be animated.

>>2170506
Thanks doc

>>2170518

And just you wait and see the secret map

>>2170506
which wad is this, it looks good

>>2170529

Looks like Mayan mishap with Eric's custom guns

>>2170530

Nope, Mayan Mishap changes the gun graphics.

>>2170529
>>2170530

It is Mayan Mishap, but no custom guns (the sprites were replaced by the ones from Stomper, aka NMN's)

Speaking of dead mods with no updates, an update!

Fancy Assault Shotgun with sprites super charged by Sgt. Shivers.

I don't know what I'm doing anymore
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vmbc5zFt3YU

>>2170587
Tell me more about this sexy shotgun.

Please.

>>2170587

ACTION DOOM SHTGENU

>>2170595
Nice youtube icon, faggot.

>>2170609
<3

>>2170587
>an update
but that's a screenshot though

This thread is so gay, so gay that even A BraveWolf wont fuck it

So DavidPH updated the dh-acc thread so now it's the official thread for GDCC. If anyone was curious about it when I mentioned it before, here you go: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=32078&start=30

>>2170595

Seems less like a 420 blaze it mode and more like a fucked-up version of the They Live sunglasses.

>>2170638

fuck you, now I want to play as Roddy Piper in Doom

>>2170638
>>2170595
I want that, actually.
Some mod where you put on those sunglasses and suddenly textures and monster sprites change to whatever.

>>2170595
Lacks wubstep and rapid hue changes

>>2170646
That's exactly what the plan for those glasses is :p

I'm trying to put as much wacky and stupid shit as I can into the next update of Zombie's Mod, since "wacky and fucking stupid" was the original idea for it

>>2170650
I was gonna go for the whole "MONTAGE PARODY!!!111!!oneone" thing (there's even some graphics and sounds in there for it), but I dunno, I'll see how it goes

>>2170652

For the sake of reference and totally not any indication of any future plans whatsoever, what is your stance on people nicking your code for use in other mods and slipping your name into a credits.txt file?

>>2170661
This is my rule for ANYTHING I create:
"Unless stated otherwise, my work is completely free to use for anything you want, credit is NOT required, but would be appreciated."

>>2170669

You're a pretty cool guy. I like you.
I'm still gonna give you credit, though, and there's shit all you can do about it.

>>2170680
Haha, thanks

Half life

>>2170692

Is fun.

>>2170695
Up until Xen, at least.

>>2170695
I feel that it's kinda meh...like it feels like the whole game is this long build-up to "the good part", but "the good part" never happens.

the weapons also feel weak and underpowered.

>>2170692
Is better than Half-Life 2.

>>2170746
This.

>>2170326

and here we have an early version of the Wyvern

>>2170746
I like both, honestly.

>>2170815

>HMP

dun worry i still luv u bby

>>2170828

HMP?

Also Shotgun Mages are cool.

>>2170815
Is that ripped from something, or is it an original sprite?

>>2170835

Ripped from Daggerfall. Recolored red, I think they look great.

>>2170828

Oh wait. Hurt me plenty.

motherfucker I'm just showcasing stuff.

Does anybody have that humongous RIP AND TEAR edits picture?

Trailblazer came out a few days ago, what do you all think of it? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4EXwSff-AE

>>2170853
The good:
>Guns feel good
>Sprites well done
>Minigun is sex
>So are sawed off shotguns and assault rifle
>Dat handcannon

The mediocre:
>Pump action shotgun kind of has iffy firepower but really shines in some good spots
>Grenade launcher is kind of lackluster

The bad:
>T-Rex rifle isn't good as an ultimate weapon at all
>The piercing shot has problems hitting anything but a very thin line of enemies which makes it bad for groups of enemies
>Dual revolvers look weird when animating

Personal nitpick:
>Double tap to dash is too easy to trigger accidentally

It's a fun mod.
I like it.
Just some things need to be tweaked a bit.

What's the difference between oldschool and newschool as said here?

>>2170879

Like it says, anon, the olschool is the 1990s experience.

>>2170901
I mean, is there gameplay changes? Aesthetic changes? Or is it just like running it on DOS and nothing more?

>>2170853

Pretty awesome

Some nitpicks:

-Minigun is a real fps killer but thats an easy fix

-Don't like how the hand on the Chrome Justice isn't totally on the gun.

-Reloading in this mod is weird, I can flick shells out of a sawn off and have new shells instantl raplce them but I still have to reload the FMG like any other smuck.

Thats about it though, could use a custom enemy set

>>2170849
>MSX.gif

>>2170383
>the crash hammer -IS- going to become a subweapon
As the guy who suggested it, it's nice to see that our opinion is taken into account. Mind if I ask how it's going to change?

>>2170909
zdoom features modern shit, like openGL, the ability to read different map formats, the ability to load PWADs without having to perform an IWAD merge for new graphics, scripting language and other things like freelook and jumping...

chocolate-doom is pretty much doom...ported to modern systems with some VERY minor bugfixes and requires IWAD merging for new graphics (-OR- you have to load the pwad using the -merge flag, which emulates deuSF merging...)


tl;dr
zdoom is a modern engine derived from doom that is backwards compatible with doom...

chocolate-doom is a 1:1 port.

>>2170931
>it's nice to see that our opinion is taken into account

Your opinions are always taken into account. GMOTA wouldn't be what it is without you guys.

However, what I got planned for the crash hammer is semi spoilery, so I can't tell everything. But lemme reveal what I got planned:

It's going to become a subweapon that every hero can access, though it'll behave differently depending who's wielding it, Blaz will swing it like a melee weapon, allow for crushing blows and some cool jump attacks, when you power your sword up, then you'll be able to throw the hammer just like you can as the sub-item. getting a POW will electrify the melee attacks

>>2170959
That's pretty cool.
I was also the guy who said that he'll draw the size chart for your characters. I'm sorry, but I can't into Paint. I'll do try to find a scanner somewhere and upload it.

>>2170973

I'm a patient guy anon. You keep on being awesome with that feedback and drawing shit.

>>2170853
Apparently it has Hexen compatibility, but either I screwed up something, or it's kind of not all there. The starting pistol, which looks like it should use blue mana, doesn't actually use it and instead runs out of ammo. The mage's ice shards are randomly still there, along with dragon bracers. Additionally, I'm getting the floating <!> sprites indicating textures are missing at the end of the first hub. Other than that, it's pretty great, and in Doom, it's super fun.

>>2170734
The good part is when the marines show up.

Honestly my favourite part of the game is the helicopter ambush on the roof; after I play through that I usually end up putting it down

>mfw japanese doom
Any of you guys know more about the japanese doom community? I found this from the link to that wad I posted a webm of last thread.

http://doom667shogun.cyber-ninja.jp/wadstand.html

>>2171105
Doom has never been so kawaii.

>>2171108
This looks really cool, on the other hand,

potential mjolnir!

god I hate spriting...!

>>2171105
>Any of you guys know more about the japanese doom community?
I know a bit of it, which reminds me to post this again
http://tatsurdcacocaco.ninja-web.net/jpcp_top.html
There's a community project going on with those in the Japanese Doom community. It was last updated December 29th.

>>2171149
Looks rough. It looks kind of like a wedge that's facing towards the viewer's right. Also the handle looks like it's about to fall out of it. I can't say how to fix it, and honestly you've done a better job that I could have. Good luck with making it look prettier.

>>2171152
I see what you mean about the stick...

I think it's that top knot thing I have there, so I removed it in pic related.

I can't see the "wedge" thing you're talking about though, but something about "encrookedizing" the sprite as seen has made it more pleasing to the eye for me.

>you've done a better job that I could have. Good luck with making it look prettier.

spriting is so fucking difficult for me...getting it "just right", especially when the mod encludes photo-rips, is something that makes me rip out my hair

It was so much easier when I was simply making textures for minecraft. The art style there permits fucking up SOOOO much more.

>>2170853
Mind sharing a link to the mod page? Googling failed me. I found the supposed doomworld thread but there's no download link.

>>2171215
Sorry, meant zdoom.

>>2171215
There's a chance you're going to the old thread. They set up a new one that got linked last thread http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=47494

disregart

Thanks.

>>2171227
meant for >>2171223
I swear I clicked the post number.

>>2171105
This shit has over 89 items. Noice.

I've never played a Doom game, should i get Doom 64?

>>2171239

Yes, but play the original dooms (1 and 2) first, because it's not a port, it's more of a sequel.

>>2171241
Ah allright, i'm not very well known with Doom, they were originally PC games weren't they?

What's the best way to play those?

>>2171241
this, also if you're used to modern FPS controls, i'd suggest doom64 EX (the PC port).

>>2171242

>>2170879 The image on this post should have you set.

>>2171242
see the FAQs and such referenced in >>2168517

they tell you where to get source ports and the games' data files.

"best" is subjective. I personally play with zandronum and gzdoom because I play with/make a lot of mods that require the features of those engines.

Chocolate doom is a viable option if you want to play it like the games originally were back in the day.

>>2171247
>>2171248
Allright, thanks guys!

Just a dumb question for you guys.
How do you go about sorting your wads?
I usually have two main folders, one for levels and megawads, the other for gameplay changes/enhancements.

>>2171254
I have a big folder in my GZDoom directory labeled "wads"...and I dump all of them in there, unless they're specifically not compatible with gzdoom.

exception: some project wads MIGHT get a unique folder on my desktop...maybe. but not often.

>>2171254
A clusterfuck of files.

>>2171247
>>2171248
Allright i've got it to work, but only in windowed mode, i quess you guys never dealt with out of range monitor errors?

>>2171290
range of motion error?

also what source port?

>>2171296
anyone know a good source for medieval textures that is not hexen/heretic?

>>2171321
didnt mean to quote

>>2171321
>good source
anything you want?
daggerfall maybe...quake has some too.

if you mean something that's already wad-ified and doom ready, then no.

anyone here use the blood/gore mod called ketchup?

is there a fix to make it compatible with chex quest 3? some enemies have red blood instead of green goop.

>>2171338
It was only made for Chex Quest 1 so that's why those enemies have red blood.
You'd have to compatibility patch it yourself.

>>2171296
Nevermind fixed it!

wasn't sure if Doom had internal resolution settings.

>>2168521
/newstuff 471: http://www.doomworld.com/php/topstory.php?id=4313

>blew up the general's tank with missiles
>tank hatch and turret remains
>general is now Dr. Wily, can't be killed and doesn't stop shooting my mechs
>raised the flag
>no win notifications or anything

Am I just using an outdated GZDoom version or is this supposed to happen? I have 2.0.05 which was released just two weeks ago.

I'm going to be getting final doom for ps1 is it shit?
I remember the long box doom being decent

>>2171443
What wad?

>>2171447
It lacks some levels, it replaces some with brand new ones.

It's ok, it's basically Playstation Doom with a new mapset, and Playstation Doom is regarded as a good port.

>>2171460
Thanks!
Is it doom2 or just the first one plus new maps?

>>2171254
A subfolder in my Doom one named PWADS_TEMP for shit downloaded to try out and server browsers to download to and clear out now and then. Folder on a cloud drive to keep things worth keeping called PWADS_ARCHIVE.

Used to keep everything in one bigass folder, but it kept piling up and I got tired of sorting out the autodownloaded/one-off shit from the good.

>>2171450

http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=47520

i usually unzip into a subdirectory:

$ unzip -LL /tmp/blah.zip -d blah

then pass its contents to the engine:

$ doom2 blah/* -warp

>>2171463
Final Doom for the PSX I think is a pick from the 64 levels of TNT and Plutonia, plus some new ones, for a total of 21 levels (I think?).

You'll have the super shotgun and the new enemies and all that from Doom 2, but the levels are all different.

>about to make bug report in ZDoom forums about ironlich's tornado giving player armor points in latest devbuilds
>IP blocked because shit ISP and shitty users getting into botnet

Someone go do it for me

>>2170849
Enjoy your cancer

>>2171535
But that's pretty funny.

>>2171535
>the Feel one
Pretty funny, actually.

>>2171535

>>2171536
>>2171538
How are the funny? What is so funny looking at these edits and thinking "huhuh I get the reference huhuh". This shit is fucking unfunny.
And next time take a look at the archive for this cancerous shit you fucking faggot.

>>2171552
You seem upset.

>>2171560
but hes right mate
the guy who created them is most likely autistic, noone puts that much effort into this stupid garbage, hell I did not even smirk

>>2170486
it's been years so I don't remember exactly when, but there is a level-cap.

the following worked for me: grind as much as possible in the beginning and then run. dont attempt fighting them, the later levels will throw cyberdemons at you. a scout-build with traits beneficial for running, shotgun and that map-sensing-thing got me through; you will constantly be low on ammo, so you need the recharging plasmagun. the last 40lvls were nothing but running.

>>2171567
>one person was responsible for every single one if those edits

kek

>>2171552
no dude, you are the demons

>>2171569

that's half true, check the artstyle, most of them match

>>2171583
>the artstyle matches

Flawless detective work.
With this logic, we can assume that all MSPaint edits all were done by the same author.
I haven't seen such reasonable deduction since "the posting style matches ergo it must be Sgt. Mark".

>>2171470

...is that ZDoom?

Is it possible to run Zdoom or Prboom in borderless window mode?

>>2167818
>>2167865

one would think that they should be introducing brand new hands aside from the gun sprites, right?

>>2171629
>brand new hands

good luck with that

>>2171636

I know, right?

>>2171552
You're funny. Do you want me to hug you?

>>2171654
Don't feed, or enable the shitposter

Is there a way to turn off the file name that appears when I take a screenshot?

>>2171661
It should be in your "message" options.

>>2171665
Didn't find it. Submenu of what?

>>2171497
Sounds neat thanks for the info.
Did anyone else grow up listening to music while playing doom 1&2? I had queens greatest hits on headphones on repeat so often I can't listen to any of the songs with out thinking about doom

>>2171687

Under "Hud" options, whoops.

>>2171687
hud options

>>2171698
>>2171704
Thanks, dudes.

>>2171720
Dante's Gate, by dr.sleep.

>>2171616
i don't know, surely that's the job of the window manager, not a doom engine

>>2171254

One gigantic folder in My Documents called "WAD Files".

That's only for other people's WAD files though - my own WAD files are in sub-directories of a "Workspace" directory.

>>2170318
I thought so myself, even though I found it inmediatly.

>>2170506
These things looks so weird.

>>2171254
i just have them all in my GZDoom folder and rename them from .wad to .wad.bak when not using them. It's probably the messiest possible option.

Proper doom thread when?

>>2171470
How do you even play this? It just starts for me on an empty island and that's it.

>>2171887
Are they supposed to be hammers?

>>2171891
newshounding is a thankless and tedious job. i am not surprised all the previous threadstarters quit.

>>2171891
you mean one full of out-of-date pastebins and free advertising for dead mods?

>>2171891
After this one reaches bump limit.

>>2171891
make it faster next time instead of waiting until the very tail end of page 10

>>2171892

Scroll through the icons on the bottom center of the screen with the Inventory Next/Prev keys. Press Inventory Use to spend action points to select the highlighted option and if applicable, deploy it where your reticle is pointing.

For example, the mech icon with a plus sign uses one action point to launch a hovercraft from the phalanax (the big boat in the sea, your base) that deploys a mech in the direction of your reticle. Read through the ZDoom thread OP to see what the other icons do, the controls for giving commands the mechs and the mechanics of the game.

>>2170831
What WAD is that?

Is there a specific term when you look into the background of a level and it starts replicating frames of whats in front of you?

>>2172128
Are you talking about hall of mirror effect (HOM)?

>>2172132
Yea that seems to be what i'm referring to.

Thanks buddy

Is there a mod where I can play in the wild wild west with wild wild west themed guns? (Like flintlock on the double barrel, etc)

>>2172187

A Fistful of Doom
Bastards

>>2171170
>>2171149
Oh jesus that perspective is fucked.

Here, the purple lines are the corrections, everything else is for reference.

The correction won't make it perfect, but it'll be a hell of a lot better. Mostly the back corner, and centering the stick better.

What's your favourite Doom Clone? Mine is Duke Nukem 3D!

>>2172187

Have you heard of Outlaws?

http://www.mobygames.com/game/windows/outlaws

I think it was based on the Doom engine

Dime is streaming Push

:: [BE] Montreal :: #doomtwid pushing grounds

What are the best weapons mods for Doom? I'm looking for one where I hold my weapon on the right side of the screen, very detailed models, a reloading feature would be cool.

Is there a serious sam mod for doom? With every level and the enemies and all the guns and everything? That could be fun

>>2172209
Blood.

>>2172259

That's some incredibly strange criteria for "the best", but it sounds like you'd be impressed with any Doom 3 weapon conversion.

>>2172230
It uses Jedi engine, same as Dark Forces. Certainly greatly inspired by Doom, though.

>>2172294
Not really looking for HD weapons, just some stylized weapons with magazines/reloading function and a modernized viewpoint. Good animations, new sounds.

>>2172314
Trailblazer has some pretty good guns and modern viewpoint.
DoomRL Arsenal has ENORMOUS arsenal of cool guns, but they are all centered.

devs blame players for "not caring" about zandro catching up to zdoom
discuss

http://zandronum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=5380&page=2#pid76426

>>2171569
thanks for info. i haven't unlocked the angel of 100. i suck at the challenges.

anyways 1st time beating the spidermind with marine pistol build. but mostly killed the tougher enemies with the BFG. never got any rare pistols. found an invunerability orb before reaching the spidermind again. probably would have beaten it with the trusty BFG anyway.
got the lava element,but couldn't find any bombs. maybe i blew it up with BFG abuse?
also found a uniquely disappointing hell staff. it just teleports?? fuck that. i want it to shoot fireballs and lava!

Working on the High-Frequency Nikana for TSP! Check it out.

>>2172401
They need to just bite the fucking bullet and release the damn thing.

>>2171895
obviously, they're fluid-dynamic fins for extra maneuverability when shooting under water. Imagine aiming the shotgun like you'd turn a submarine.

>>2172427

>>2172401
Doesn't really feel like there's much to discuss, honestly. I think Mr. Repo and Term both hit the nail on the head in there.

>>2172427
>Auto shotgun
>HF Blade
If there was a sexy revolver handcannon to choose from I'd be all over this instantly.

>>2172495
>Terminus's post
He's a really swell guy.
I didn't realize he put that much effort into everything.

>>2172401

Players aren't helping test Zandronum 2.0. What else is there to conclude?

>>2172401

I'll test Zandronum 2.0. I'd love to develop mods for it

HDoom's being developed in Zandronum 2.0 ever since version 6b, however no one seems to have read the release post and then they wonder why it's not working when they run it with 1.3

>>2172624
>multiplayer porn game where everyone is a man

this just got real gay real fast.

>>2172624
>>2172630

Team Fuckmatch when?

How do I check if I can host or not?

>>2172427
is there anything original in this mod or is it all just a mishmash of popular stuff from other mods?

>>2172646
Shotgun and very different shell types
Pull/Push
Rocket launcher with spread secondary
Punch/Kick combos that are very expanded upon while other mods only do 3-5 hit combos at best.

Try again anon.

>>2172646

well i can safely say i've seen that sword in FuckAll.wad before along with all of the other graphics taken from wow.wad so it's quite clear that marty is stealing from DoesNotExisticus

what a hackthief

>>2172672
>Rocket launcher with spread secondary

Not that the guy you're responding to isn't a faggot, but that's actually pretty common.

>>2172689
Really?
Well damn, I thought it was kind of uncommon.
The closest I thought was Weapons of Saturn and that has the spread built into the primary.

>>2172692
stop playing doom for two seconds and play other shit.

>The flak canon in UT99 is the same weapon
>There's a similar weapon in jedi knight 2
>Strife has a weapon that's pretty much BFG with an alt SSG

for some reason, devs have always considered shotgun pellets to just be "baby rockets" for some reason...but it's as common as dirt.

>>2172771
>None of that stuff is from popular mods
Anon please try to pay attention to the conversation.

Also
>Jedi Knight games
>Using guns
This isn't why they're popular.

>Flak cannon
>Rocket launcher
That's more like a grenade round

>>2167569
>hell, fps games as a whole are about shotguns
Solid, I got like 370 kills with my Nova ghost camo on CSGO

>>2172556

Revolver handcannon?

>>2172845
>That sprite
..Is that the fucking Bearkiller?

Please say this isn't a replacement sprite for the pistol and is a genuine powerhouse gun.
I'd be all over that.
If it's not then I'd still be all over that if it has some fast break top reload or something.

I've never played doom, what is a good one to play, I am pretty good at video games.

>>2172861
Start with the basics, of course.

>>2171980

Something Shivers is working on, he's just dubbing it "shotgun mage" for now

>>2172418
congratulations. man, i shouldnt look at the .txt for too long, makes me wanna give it a go again.

Do a melee run and head for the citadel. you'll love it.

there's a staff which can be used as a key on a certain level, dont remember the name though

>>2172868
so just doom 1? are all versions pretty much the same?

>>2172672
>Shotgun and very different shell types
all of them are the same as other weapons, just because they are crammed into a shotgun doesn't make them unique
>Pull/Push
strife did it first, mods that use strife functions, also half life 2
>Rocket launcher with spread secondary
flak cannons and variations have done this a million times before this in other mods
>Punch/Kick combos that are very expanded upon while other mods only do 3-5 hit combos at best.
dial a combos aren't actually that great, even the maker of Demonsteele agrees
also there's that japanese anime mod that already does this

>>2172885
Ultimate Doom
Doom II
Final Doom - (both TNT and Plutonia)

>>2172678
it looks like he is just coloring over the sword used in Demonsteele
also
>Demonsteele, mod that uses sword prominently gets Cacoward
>Space Pirate© now featuring Sword™, original Recolor® do not steal

>>2172885
>are all versions pretty much the same?

basically.

Doom 2 adds a single new weapon (the Super Shotgun) and a few more enemies (revenants, pain elementals, archviles and mancubi), but overall they're not much different mechanically. It's more difficult than doom 1, though.

TNT and Plutonia are both doom 2 mods for the most part.

Doom 64 is basically doom2 with new sprites and maps (they add a few "new" enemies, but they aren't significant...shit like the invisible imp, etc). It's also a great atmospheric experience...

Most 3rd party mapsets are designed with doom2 in mind, so there's that too.

Doom 1 is nice and comfy, easy enough on mid-difficulty for newfags, and has really nice, pretty level design compared to doom2 (which looks like brutalist archetecture...and not the pretty, super-futuristic kind, but rather the commie-blocs and 90s supermarket kind)

>>2172897
>coloring over the sword used in Demonsteele

???????????????

>>2172897
>Doom, game that uses pistol prominently gets awards
>Half Life 2© now featuring Pistol™, original Recolor® do not steal

>>2172908
even if it's not a recolor it doesn't look great and it's stealing the concept from Demonsteele anyway

>>2172908
DUAL WIELDING DEMONSTEELE SPACE PIRATE MOD CONFIRMED

>>2172910
how many mods used swords before Demonsteele anyway though? it's not the same

and note I mean katana-style swords not fantasy broadswords

>>2172912
>Someone uses a sword for their thing
>Now nobody can ever use a sword EVER because it's stealing the concept that isn't original to begin with
I know you're just shitposting anon but please put a little more effort into it.

>>2172912
You know that TSP predates Demonsteele by a long fucking time, right?

>>2172908
this. a sword's a sword and will look similar to other swords.

I mean shit, the gmota sword is literally quietus colored over...why aren't we giving that any shit?

TSP is based on outlaw star...which features sword wielders. I expected this, and marty's been talking about swords for a while, so I don't see why it's an issue.

>>2172891
>all of them are the same as other weapons

what's the electro-shell a copy of?

>>2172915
The Shadow Warrior katana was in a lot of mods.
There's also the lightsaber edit of the SW Katana rolling around in mods too.

The katana is actually pretty commonly used in weapon mods.