/vr/ - Retro Games

I remember as a kid I thought Super Mario RPG looked "almost" like Super Mario 64, looking at magazine screenshots before these games came out.

Asterix and Obelix XXL came out right at the end of the GBA's lifespan. The complete understanding of the hardware necessary to wring such good 3D out of it simply didn't exist when those Crash games were made. And Crash titles for PS1 had loads of sidescrolling, so it was as authentic as necessary imo.

It's more surprising to me that there was no GBA Starfox.

>>2143518
I think the gba was considerably more powerful than the snes, more comparable to the Jaguar for example.

test

>>2143543
Jaguar has 64 bits, GBA has 32 bits.
Which is better? Do the math.

>>2143548

He said it's more comparable to the Jaguar, not that it's as powerful.

>>2143550
It only got half as many bits. It should be more comparable to a 3DO, PC-FX or Xbox.

>>2143543
GBA is closer to the PS1 than the SNES. The main bottleneck for GBA was not processing power but storage capacity.

A PS1 disc could hold ~650mb of data (textures, voice, CD audio, fmv) plus there were plenty of multi-disc games as discs were cheap to produce so you could produce games like the FFs that are actually a gig or two in size.

GBA carts topped out at 16mb.

>>2143550

He was being silly. Actually they are very close, Doom GBA is a port of the Jaguar Doom code. Jaguar has a really stupid bottleneck in the architecture that made any significant amount of texturemapping impossible at a reasonable framerate. The GBA didn't, so despite being the same or only barely more powerful, we got some very fast, fluid texturemapped 3D games on the GBA later in its lifespan. It's a glimpse at what the Jaguar might've been capable of with more competent design.

>>2143557
>GBA carts topped out at 16mb.
It amazed me when I learned they put whole movies on those things

>>2143548

>Jaguar has 64 bits, GBA has 32 bits.
>Which is better? Do the math.

Yeah, any processor before the Athlon64 was less powerful than the N64's VR4300...

Jesus fucking Christ..

>>2143557
>GBA carts topped out at 16mb.
I thought 32MB was the max for GBA.

Super Mario 64 could have been done on 32x?

>>2143559
their framerate still sucked terribly to stay in the double digits
and yes i played asterix, need for speed and all that

>>2143559
their framerate still struggled terribly to stay in the double digits
and yes i played asterix, need for speed and all that

>>2143560
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQYmpANxNYc#t=3m45s

Did someone say isometric?

I remember this ATV gba game that used similiar psuedo 3D graphics to the Star Fox games. Anyone remember what that was?

>>2143736
The doom GBA ports were excellent. I played them obsessively as I would the PC version they were so good.

>>2143550
>>2143641
And sadly, no one gets the joke, like, ever.

>>2143926

Sorry for not being familiarized with Jaguar ads, I'll try to remember next time.

>>2143654
What he is trying to say is that it is a ridiculously small size compared to 1 gig ps1 discs.

I believe that is actually how mario 64 came to be, it began as a 3d yoshi game for the super fx chip, but was moved over to the n64.

Check out the unreleased Star Fox II for SNES, there are 3d segments in that where your arwing grows legs and you can walk around and jump

>>2143946
>where your arwing grows legs and you can walk around and jump

Macross?

>>2143520

You must have been a blind and retarded kid. Fuck you.

>>2144435
How's being 12 years old working out for ya, babe?

>>2144467
>b-babe
too young to be called babe, that's how it's working out for me grandpa

>>2143946

Actually, the guys behind Starfox pitched that Yoshi idea to Nintendo and got turned down (and later claimed.that Nintendo stole the very idea of making a 3D platformer from them).

Then they turned it into this abortion.

I like isometric games but isometric platforming sucks fat cocks

>>2144474
>Then they turned it into this abortion.

From what I recall Croc was one of the most impressive games when it came out.

>>2143548
>>2143553
>He fell for the "*bit" advertising gimmick
I bet you fell for BLAST PROCESSING too

>>2144474
>Croc
>abortion

Watch your mouth, you little shit.

>>2144474
Croc was the bomb dude.

>>2143560
>>2143654
>>2143743

NOT RETRO GO BACK TO /v/

>>2144474
>and later claimed.that Nintendo stole the very idea of making a 3D platformer from them

Yeah, because Nintendo, a company whose mascot stars primarily in platform games, could never have come up withh the idea of making a 3D Mario plattformer for their new 3D console.

Considering what a Croc of shit their game turned out to be compared to Mario 64 maybe they should just shut their Gobbos.

>>2144474

Come to think of it, Croc looks a lot like Yoshi...

>>2143930
Never seen the ad yet I knew he was joking.

Reminds me of the schoolyard, where some morons would claim that such-and-such a console was technically superior to any PC because its word size was bigger. Them were the days...