/vr/ - Retro Games

http://strawpoll.me/3258172

MM2

>easier until Wily levels
>better pacing
>more useful weapons
>better Wily levels and bosses

MM3

>harder until Wily levels
>longer overall
>better music
>better robot master levels and bosses

>>2141712
Oh, forgot to add that MM3 has tighter controls. One thing I dislike is that Mega Man is slightly slippery in MM2, which pisses me off sometimes. Also, dat slide.

>>2141708
>>2141708
Not even trolling, IMHO 6

MM2 was shit, the big reason it gets praise is for 2 reasons
1.nostalgia, if you take off the nostalgia glasses you get a game that has good music but other than that an average platformer.

2.MM1 was shit, so when this came out everyone was like "wow look how much stuff you can do now" by adding more robot masters and stuff like the rush stuff made for a better game but its not the best.

I say 6 for myself (even if the question was 2 vs 3) it was at the end of the systems life so you have nice clean gameplay, best graphics of the series up to that point and you have stuff that 2 & 3 didnt offer (charging of the buster, Rush jump jet, RUSH power, protoman)

>>2141718

This isn't /v/.

You don't have to state your opinions with absolutes and the cliche /v/ catch all phrase, "its/was shit!!". Obviously the first 2 can't be "shit" because the series wouldn't have made it to 6.

>>2141708

Tough one, I think 3 refined a lot from 2 and the difficulty was better (2 was way too easy). I played 1, 2, and 3 around their releases and while I think overall 3 is better it wasn't the upgrade that 2 was over 1.

>>2141712
I was with you until
>better music

>>2141738
>You don't have to state your opinions with absolutes and the cliche /v/ catch all phrase, "its/was shit!!".

Considering how homogeneous the games actually are, I always found the fierce Mega Man arguments to be pretty funny. It's always this value polarization that's way too steep for its own good.

MM3's soundtrack "godlike, 10/10 all killer no filler" MM4's soundtrack "shit/10 literally audio diarrhea"

I think MM3 is a better game, but MM2 is more memorable and I replay it more often.

MM3 is superior to MM2, but MM4 beats them both out.

3 has this little tune which is my favorite from any of the original Mega Man games, and that is Protoman's Theme. That said, I just barely enjoy 2 more, because everything about it has stuck with me ever since I was a kid.

>>2141712
MM3 is only longer because of the filler stages they put between the initial eight robot masters and the actual Wily Castle.

>>2141793
That's some trash talk right there. I think that 4 is the worst of the NES games. It was the game that was the start of you having EXACTLY enough weapon energy to kill the boss if you don't fuck up. Not every weapon, but most of them. This trend continued in 5 and most certainly in 6.

And just as a minor annoyance, the boss health bars fill up SO slowly.

3 is my favorite, but pic related is the best.

>>2141743
To be honest, that was pretty subjective on my part. MM2's music is definitely on par, but I just prefer MM3's more somber and desperate tone.

>>2141823
>metal man punching himself in the face

Lost it.

>>2141708
I would have made this a Mega Man 2 vs. 4 thread, myself.

>>2141823
>I think that 4 is the worst of the NES games. It was the game that was the start of you having EXACTLY enough weapon energy to kill the boss if you don't fuck up. Not every weapon, but most of them
wut? you get way more than enough for everything but rain flush but how do you miss with a screen nuke?

>>2141848
Yeah, easily the best part of the pic. I saved it a few years back in an alt art thread on /b/. I wonder if the artist did the other entries. We have 2 and 4 here. Would love to see one for 3.

>>2141876
Flash Stopper has just barely enough energy. You can fuck up once, but that's about it. Even with a turbo button, it's close. Skull Shields on Dive Man is a big example. If you lose more than one, you can't use just those. Dive Missiles use up a shield, so you have to be careful. Drill Bomb only has like, 8 uses. Toad Man takes 7, I believe. If he jumps over more than one, you're boned.

It's not a rage inducing gripe, I suppose. 1 gave you enough, 2 generally gave you more than enough. The only thing close on 2 is Flash, but you can just finish off Quickman with Crash Bombs. I usually just use CBs at this point. 3 had a good balance. The only thing that could really derp was Top Spin. I've hit Shadowman with two of them and had no energy left and his life only down by 1/3.

>>2141712
Pretty spot on. I like 2 better just because it was the first one I ever played. I love the music in 3, though.

>>2141848
>>2141897

this may be an odd question, but was Metal Man's insta-death to his own weapon attributed to a glitch or something of that sort instead of a valid intention on the part of developers? I can't think of any classic MM in which a weapon obliterated health like that.

>>2141897
Did we play the same game? Drill Bombs, Dive Missiles, Ring Boomerangs, and Dust Crusher all use 1 energy. Skull Barrier and charged Pharaoh Shot only use 2. I'll give you Flash Stopper and Rain Flush though.

>>2141708

Docbots say MM3 wins.

so I'm the only one who likes 5...?

>>2141914
You won't find any instadeath weapons like that past 2. If you're on Normal mode, a fully charged Atomic Fire will one shot Woodman. A single Metal Blade will kill Metal Man. Most of the others are two or three hits.

3 looks better and plays better. The ideas for the robot masters make more sense, and have better designs.I really liked the weapons, also, except for snake man.

2 has an awful color palette, megaman feels like he's on ice, and the concepts for the robot masters look and feel like desperate attempts to bring back the franchise. I get that it was a labor of love, literally, but it didn't come together. I never really felt like the weapons were that useful.

Given that, because MM3 was undoubtedly unfinished, MM2 is the more succinct title of the two.

I'd rather play 4. It's the more definitive game of the series, I think, just from sheer presentation, and it set the standard for future games. I don't care for all the robot masters, though. Useful weapons!

>>2141968
5 is... I don't know. I always get bored with it really fast. There's just something very off about it to me.

Out of them all, 6 is my favorite. Music, palette, robot master designs, level design, all of it. Megaman is slippery as fuck in 6 also, which I dislike, and his jump is gimped, and the charge shot is overpowered and the enemies have no health. But it's more enjoyable to play for me based on the level design and robot masters alone.


But out of 2 and 3 I would pick 3 by a longshot. 2 just feels and looks cheap as shit.

>>2141968
I dug 5. Nice variety of weapons. With the exception Power Stone. FUCK that weapon. Even Charge Kick was more useful that that shit.

>>2141983
>dat pic
>implying a MM movie wouldn't shit all over garbage like transformers

>>2142008
I'd love a Megaman movie. If they can make a fucking Street Fighter movie, they can make a Megaman movie.

i didnt know megaman held a gun in the first two covers, only knew of the first one. interesting. are these the only two times?

>>2142041
When they made MM9 and 10, they knew fans laughed at the silly style of the box art, so they purposely made the art for those two games silly, but awesome.

>>2142047
>dat protoman

Metal as FUCK.

>>2142026
I mean there is that fan-made one, I guess.

I'd love to see an ANIMATED Mega Man movie. Lots of potential there. Would never happen, though.

>>2142561
There was an OVA a long-ass time ago.

>>2142602
The educational one where he pops out of the TV? Yeah, I know. Cute but I thought it was otherwise kinda mediocre.
I'm talking an actual film about Mega Man.... But I'll just have to keep dreaming.

>>2141897
>Drill Bomb only has like, 8 uses. Toad Man takes 7, I believe. If he jumps over more than one, you're boned.

I know you're just trying to make a point here, but come on.

>>2141708
3. Better gameplay, better music, and sliding.

>>2141968
You ain't the only one
>Best level design
>Best music
>Charged MegaBuster is a bit balanced now because if you get hit, you'll have to charge it all again
However, the weapons are meh
>Napalm bombs while killing almost everything, they bounce like ass
>Gyro is the dumb brother of the metal blade
>Crystal Eye pretty much outshadows the Power stone
>Power Stone is a useless piece of shit and not even using it with chargeman is a good idea
>Star Crash dries out fast
>Gravity hold only kills small enemies in 1 shot
>Charge kick is too damn risky to use
>Water Wave doesn't rip through enemies
>Super arrow is only good for speed running
>You get beat by the time you reach the Darkman Castle
>No Darkman weapon get

>>2143187
oh forgot 2 things about the weapons
>Assembling beat takes 9 parts meanwhile in other games you only need 4
>Rush coil is somehow worse than any other entries

>>2141718

I agree that MM6 is one of the better of the NES entries, but it's unpolished. The levels are designed with the use of the Rush powerups in mind, but I would have liked to have seen the game use them from the very start, and design the stages accordingly. It would have made for possibly the very best Megaman game for the NES.

>>2141847

>MM3's more somber and desperate tone.

This is what nails it home for me with MM3's soundtrack. It's definitely a bit darker, and sadder possibly reflecting the fact that this third time around with Wily, Rock's life just seems to be revolving around constant battle and I like to imagine it wearing him down.

3 is definitly up there with MMX1 and MM2's soundtracks as some of my favorite soundtracks of all time.

>>2141897
>Toad Man takes 7, I believe. If he jumps over more than one, you're boned.

If you don't know Toad Man's pattern by now, and can't beat him using regular buster shots, then I have nothing to say to you, Son.


Except...

Git gud.

My main problem with 6 was using the rush adapter modes, putting them on just to break a block on fly to an out of reach ledge then taking them back off over and over.

>>2142047
i would have KILLED for a physical release of those. those would have been nice collectors editions, like old NES boxes.

>>2143187
why did we get crap like top spin and charge kick?
they just self damage.

>>2141718
>1.nostalgia, if you take off the nostalgia glasses
I'm not even a MM2 fan.

But fuck off.

>>2143402
Ever played MMV for the gameboy?
Break dash is basically what topspin and charge kick wish to be, if it fails or doesn't kill something, it gives you a 1 second invuln frame

>>2143269
He's usually the first boss I take on and if he even gets off a single rain, I consider it a failure. I'm just saying that the number of hits is a bit too proportional for me. If you had say, 10 shots with a weapon and the boss needed 6 or 7 it would be better. I suppose I'm rallying for the casuals and not the tryhards. I don't consider myself either, but would like an average person to be able to pick up the game and do ok and not get frustrated.

>>2143402
top spin is good you're just probably trying to use it on the wrong enemies.

>>2143596
It's very good on those guys that keep jumping and have tiny hitboxes so you can't hit them with anything but top spin unless you have very good timing.

>>2141708
I like Mega Man 4 better than either. Out of those two, probably 2, because the weapons were more interesting in my opinion. Too many of the weapons in 2 were just "thing that shoots forward" or were not usable all that often. (Although Top Spin is actually pretty good a lot of the time, underrated weapon if you know what it can affect.)

MEGA MAN CLASSIC NES/SNES POWER RANKINGS

ETERNAL GOAT. Mega Man 3
2. Mega Man 2
POWER GAP
3. Mega Man 1
4. Mega Man 7
COLOSSAL POWER GAP
899. Mega Man 6
900. Mega Man 5
99999^999999. Mega Man 4

>inb4 Mega Man 7 sucks because it's "too zoomed in" to see anything

Git gud

>>2143962
I thought 7 was a fun game. Not the best, but better than 4-6.

>>2141708
MM3. MM2 is just way too easy to beat.

>>2143962
I actually liked 4 5 and 6 I think they all had good stage design and platforming gimmicks.

bright mans stage is a standout to me, same with gravity man and windman.

Time for what? I loved both.

>>2141983
Why's airman so popular?

>>2142026
>>2142561

Sadly Protomen is the closest to one we'll ever get.

>>2142119
Metal as all hell

>>2145909
Because Heat Man's stage has Yoku block hell

MM3 by far. Better design in stage, better boss fights. MM2's fights just felt like the boss either jumped around a fuck ton right on top of you or just played a zoning game the entire fight.

MM3 also has sliding, more (and better) levels, and rectified the issue of having to die if you didn't have enough ammo in certain spots. I know 3 still had spots like that, but they were a little more forgiving.

>>2141798
no, its longer in general.

MM2 stages each have roughly 4 or 5 different enemies and takes about 60sec to complete. MM3 levels are more complex and have more variety.

the only challenging level in MM2 is first half of Quick Man. And only a few levels are constant enemy placement. (wood man and air man) It wasnt until 3-6 that capcom really pushed the NES to the max and caused it to lag.

>>2145916
That shit's just grimdark fanfiction though, so yeah, it's definitely unfortunate.