/vr/ - Retro Games

I hate it when adventure games do this shit

>>2135121
Oh, that's not so bad. Dungeon mazes are part of the reason we even play jrpgs

>>2135171
>Dungeon mazes are part of the reason we even play jrpgs
Yeah, when the corridors don't look exactly the same.

>>2135121
>Check out how tough this map is
Typical Eartboundfag

sup

>>2135171
Speak for yourself... mazes are the worst part of a JRPG for me.

>>2135121
FNALLY GOT OUT! FUCK! WHY DO ALL DOORS HAVE "EXIT" WRITTEN IF THEY'RE NOT FUCKING EXITS?

>>2135214
Pfft.

>>2135171
well designed dungeons =/= dungeon mazes
mazes happen when designers need to pad the dungeon time without any legitimate design choices

>>2135307
I thought a maze was, well, a maze.

>>2135205
post the one that leads to dark nei
with the teleporters

>>2135312

>>2135313
mwahahaha thank you

>>2135314
Phantasy Star 2 has sadistic dungeons

HA HA HA WHERE IS YOUR GOD NOW?

>>2135320
Yeah Wizardry 4 probably takes the cake but it's not a JRPG

>>2135325
But...this thread is about shitty maps not jrpgs

>>2135320
Explain the arrows.

>>2135328
Uh, I included the key so I wouldn't have to.

But just in case it wasn't confusing enough this is what your view looks like.

>>2135327
With JRPGs you can understand how someone might be drawn in and then frustrated by a surprisingly difficult dungeon. With Wizardry, you know what you're getting into immediately.

>>2135328
There's a key, yo. You wouldn't last five minutes in Werdna's shoes.

>>2135325
>but it's not a JRPG

Nowhere does it say in OP that we have to post JRPGs.

>>2135331
Actually I'm the opposite. I usually go in to every old RPG, J or not, expecting at least one absolute cunt dungeon designed to pad the game or just show complete contempt for the player.

Incidentally here's one of my all time favourite maps.

>>2135214
I dont mind that map as much as other people. Though it is admittedly full of time wasting sections.

I think Sandy Petersen forgot about the lost soul limit, aswell. Pain Elementals near the beginning are completely harmless because of this oversight.

>>2135345
Platforming dungeons aren't as big as they look though.

>>2135352
No I know. But I have a huge hardon for maps that connect up. Like the one you just posted.

Or this one.

>>2135357
Haha that was the map I was about to post when I changed my mind and posted Solstice instead.

>>2135367
Well I can certainly see where Solstice got its inspiration

>>2135313
Mo' like Clima Troll.

>>2135372
The whole Ultimate Play The Game library is full of games like that. If you like Isometric dungeons and good but obscure "dated" games they're worth checking out.

>>2135214
>>2135295
I laugh at your pathetic 2-dimensional Doom maps.

>>2135205
>>2135313

God damn, I love this game.

>>2135464
Sup scrub.

http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140222003739/turok/images/0/0e/T2_Level_IV_-_The_Lair_of_the_Blind_Ones.jpg

>>2135828

>be lost in Climatrol
>down to my last monomate
>hugh is kill
>rolf has no tp left
>every fight is a battle to stay alive
>accidentally come across a chest
>ROLF has found 20 meseta

thanks a fucking bunch

Bump.

I've wandered this level for hours trying to get out.

>>2135230
Sounds like this. You needed to find a rock to kill a snake. A dozen or so "rooms" like this, all but one have a scorpion behind that rock.

This map is complete shit and so utterly contrived. And an enormous shame too because the first world map was a thing of beauty.

>>2138093

I remember this dungeon, i was 9 and i did not know english at the time, it was fucking horrible took me over 100 hours to beat the game, this area at least 12 hours

>shitty maps
i'm having flashbacks of that final area in Xenogears...

what a cluster fuck.

>>2135320
>no automapping
>rotating floors

have fun

is there a FULL INTERCONNECTED map of SM Zebes?

>>2135313
Climatrol made me realize I loved Phantasy Star II. That's some hardcore shit for a JRPG.

daggerfall, worst dungeon design ever, most of them randomly generated. like you follow some 1-mile tunnel only for it to end up in a dead end with nothing there but an empty room. daggerfall dungeons are absolutely huge.

http://uesp.net/wiki/Daggerfall:Soul_of_a_Lich

>just to get to a quest npc in a dungeon you need a complete walkthrough

>>2135230
Because you're exiting the room you were in previously.

>>2138102
You see, modern gamers just aren't smart enough for this sort of thing.

Whats the difference between a well designed maze and a badly designed maze? Inb4 all mazes are bad and Ocarina of time is too hardcore 4 me

>>2138102
wat

>>2138102
>>2143786
Now, the big question: is there any way at all to find out which screen doesn't have a scorpion?